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Speculation regarding Matt Smith's second season as The Doctor.

Series Six Cliffhangers

The Series 6 / Season 32 Midseason Cliffhanger will involve...

  • ...River.

Her identity one of the mysteries that's going to be covered next series.

    • CONFIRMED and CONFIRMED. She's part of the mystery of Amy's Schroedinger's Pregnancy.
  • ...the Silence.

The Cracks were slowly explained during series 5, why not dump reveal the mystery of the Silence at the midpoint, setting up the second half so the Doctor has to have separate adventures knowing what the Silence is, and that it probably has to be stopped immediately?

  • ...the Mondas Cybermen.

With a redesign, since it could be in the budget this year.

    • Confirmed, but not a major redesign. The chestplate is just slightly different.
  • ...the Daleks.

They're always involved when something big is happening, and when it's not them, it's...

    • Moffat has stated there will be no Daleks in series 6.
  • ...the Time Lords.

Okay, this is stretching it, due to The End of Time and everything, but maybe it's more specific Time Lords, like...

      • Jossed, though it turns out a plot revelation shows River/Melody is part-Time Lord, part-human, based on the mechanics of how the "real" Time Lords gained the ability to regenerate.
    • ...the Master.

Also not likely, but like I said, if it's not the Daleks, it's him. But maybe it's another Time Lord, like...

    • ...Jenny.

It's about time she showed up again. What a cliffhanger it would be, too.

    • Jossed.
  • ...a fez.

Will the Doctor get to the fez? You have to wait until fall! BEST. CLIFFHANGER. EVER.

  • ...Jenny wearing a fez.

Takes after her dad, no matter what he looks like and what silly things he thinks are cool.

    • Assuming you mean the Doctor's daughter and not Vastra's associate, Jossed.
  • ... Susan. (but it will be her regeneration. This will solve any problems that may be caused by Carole Ann Ford's health. She's 70 years old, at least. I'm sure that may be a liability.)
    • Jossed, though Bernard Cribbins was hardly a liability and he was well into his seventies at the time of "Voyage of the Damned".
  • ...a new species.

A new species called the Silents. This has been somewhat-partially proved in the trailer for this season, with that beastie that Amy turns her flashight on. I also found a script spoiler somewhere online with the line "Amy looks up at the ceiling. There are four Silents there." Finally, I found an interview somewhere with the producers saying that they were tired of the old monsters because of re-using them over and over, and wanted to introduce something new.

    • Due to the Silence's nature (who appeared earlier in the premiere "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon"), this isn't COMPLETELY disproven, however they do not appear, nor are mentioned. The ceiling spoiler is from "Day of the Moon", not the mid-season cliffhanger episode, "A Good Man Goes to War". One could argue that the "a new species" bit is disproven, as the Silence are very strongly suggested to have caused the Cracks in Time, and one of them said "Silence will fall".
    • It's since been revealed that The Silence is a religious movement, not a species.

The person behind the Silence is.......

RIVER SONG!!!! Now I can imagine what most of you are thinking about that theory. And yes, I am totally aware of how ridiculous that idea is, and also why it can't work, so there no need to review those details. The reason behind this theory is that we know that River has done something really awful in the future...er the past.......FNARG, And she said at the end of The Big Bang that everything would change. We also know that both the mystery voice and River's true identity are something of a puzzle. Who's to say they can't be the same puzzle? As for the logic behind trying to kill your past self, well if I'm right, I'll just leave it to the Grand Moff to explain, because even I admit that this one is far fetched, and I can't work out the mechanics behind it. Just consider that we've seen the rules broken before, and consider that the answers to both of these mysteries will likely be something completely out of left field.

The Silence are really...

The victims of the cracks in time. Now bare with me for a second. The cracks erased people from time and from memories. What happens when you look away from a Silent? They're erased from your memories. Because of the reboot that the Doctor performed on the universe, they aren't the full person who was eaten any more, more like an echo of them, and that is why they look the way they do. It also explains the fact that they are not a species—multiple species were eaten by the cracks in time, but because of the way the "echos" were created, they all ended up looking the same. It also explains why they've technically been around forever—the cracks completely erased you from time, so they could be in every time logically. It would also explain why Amy seemed to notice the Silent before anyone else and semi-remember them when no one else could—she grew up next to the crack, which made it easier for her to remember people once they were eaten while others couldn't. The same principle could apply here.


The Doctor, Regenerations and Valeyard

The 11th or 12th Doctor will, at the end of his life, be granted more regenerations.

By his former selves. The reason for the call backs to the previous Doctors is because they'll all help, if only off screen for some, create a device to give him more regenerations. Perhaps the Master will try to use it and 9, 10, 11 and maybe 12 (and previous ones, if they can get them) will work together to stop perhaps the Simm Master and a new one. As for how Rose won't be with 9, it could take place after he left but before he came back and picked her up. 10 could be between companions.

    • Jossed? In one episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures, the Doctor says he can change 507 times. Then again, he lies.
      • Probably jossed. Supposedly, if a Time Lord killed another Time Lord, they would get the dead Time Lord's regenerations. The Doctor killed a whole bunch of Time Lords and has their regenerations. Or, since the regeneration limit was artificial and enforced by Rassilion, with the Time Lords gone the limit on regenerations is nonexistent.
      • Also, supporting the 507 thing, we have to remember that the Time War led to huge changes in Time Lord society, to the point of literally reviving their King in the Mountain. It's quite possible that the increase in regenerations has to do with this. Either removing all limits to support the war effort, or artificially supercharging everyone's ability.

The Tenth Doctor thought he was going to regenerate into the Valeyard

The Tenth Doctor is clearly dreading his regeneration. When he can delay it no longer, he flips one last control on the TARDIS. When he regenerates into Eleven, the TARDIS is crashing into the earth. Coincidence? Accident? Or Ten's last attempt to save the world from himself? Of course, Ten was wrong in the end. Or was he..?

  • This is somewhat supported by the fact that, when Ten is agonizing over having to sacrifice himself to save Wilf, he starts shouting "I could do so much more!" One could argue that he's just upset, or he just means this particular incarnation, but it does seem odd that he's ignoring the fact that his next incarnation would (theoretically) be carrying on his work...
  • It looks as if Ten had reason to be scared of turning into the Valeyard. The Eleventh Doctor acts like the Valeyard/Dream Lord contained in a Stepford Smiler shell in "The Pandorica Opens". That last control that Ten flips before regenerating may have led to the TARDIS developing temporal energy-regulation controls such as the Friction Contrafibulator and Zigzag Plotter (unless of course either of those controls were already present before the TARDIS regenerated into its Series Five form).

Eleven is the Valeyard

See above, and consider also that the weird half-death regeneration-with-the-same-face might still have counted against the doctor's remaining regenerations, bumping him right up against that window of Valeyard-dom.

    • What about the Dreamlord?
      • The Doctor's evil side.

If the Doctor ever regenerates into a women, she will be a lesbian.

If you have been a male for nearly ten centuries, this is quite a probable side-effect, considering. And if the Doctor had been in a relationship with a companion before regeneration (like the newer series likes to do these days), it could get very interesting...

  • If Moffat ever writes episodes for a female Doctor, he'll probably make her bisexual as a continuity nod to Eleven and the other bisexual Doctors.
  • Look up Curse of the Fatal Death some time. Written by Moffat but non-canonical. Less bisexual and more intrest in the Master, dalek bumps and all.

The Doctor has become the Valeyard

And no one can stop him.

  • Series Five seems to imply that Eleven is the Valeyard/Dream Lord trapped in a box (the Pandorica). The Series Five finale also indicates that whether or not the force trapped in that box is the Valeyard/Dream Lord, it is a force that cannot be stopped; it can only be tricked into submission. If that force is the Valeyard/Dream Lord, then Eleven has been tricking it into submission repeatedly across the series; his Big Bang idea was the smartest trick he used, but until the TARDIS explodes, the issue is still unresolved.

A Time Lord's sexual orientation can change with each regeneration.

Their default orientation is asexual—possibly purposely engineered to keep the population down. For beings that can live hundreds of years, over-population could become a significant problem. However, every once in a while, after a regeneration they pop up as non-asexual. Ten is hetero, so is Eight, and we can presume One as well, since he had to get that granddaughter somehow. Eleven, I think, is gay—he does seem to go on a bit about how good looking Jeff is. This explains, for instance, how Five traveled with so many attractive companions of both genders without a hint of temptation. Also, why Nine didn't show any romantic interest in Rose, but when he became Ten, he fell in love with her.

  • Nine is bi. He showed some interest in Rose, argued that he was not asexual, was pretty overjoyed at the 51st Century's pansexuality, and therefor Jack's pansexuality and there were other hints between him and Jack.
  • I like this theory, but I think Eleven is bisexual at least. When Amy kissed him, his first instinct was to put one hand on her hip and the other in her hair.
    • The way Eleven checks out the rather hot young Venetian woman at the beginning of "Vampires of Venice" indicates that he has at least an appreciation for the other gender. I'm going with bi, personally.
    • I concur with Eleven being bisexual. Eleven's pained facial expressions in "Vincent and the Doctor" and "The Lodger" seem to indicate that he's also deeply entrenched in a Transparent Closet. Poor guy.
  • The Eighth Doctor Adventures and other EU stuff made the Eighth Doctor pretty definitely bisexual.
  • Clearly bisexuality is the default. Asexuality is a more cultural thing on Gallifrey.

The Dream-Lord is the Valeyard.

  • Not so much a wild-mass guess, as a logical assumption based on the information provided. Both are described as manifestations of the Doctor's dark side- the psychic coral merely acted as a conduit for the Valeyard to manifest himself prematurely from the stated point where the Doctor is meant to regenerate into him (between the 12th and 13th Doctor's- whom the 11th Doctor isn't that far off from). Notice how in The Ultimate Foe, the Valeyard manifests as a dark-haired and darkly-clothed man in contrast to the blonde, garishly dressed 6th Doctor, whereas in Amy's Choice he takes the form of a short, plump and plain man, in contrast to the 11th Doctor's tall, dark and handsome appearance, which he makes numerous mocking references to in the episode, amid his standard Hannibal Lectures.
    • I think it's more that the Dream-Lord is a manifestation of what becomes the Valeyard: not so much good-versus-evil, as a gradual degradation. Taking into account the events of "The Waters of Mars"—or even going back to "School Reunion"—it seems to me this has been a long time coming.

Regeneration doesn't have a hard limit, but a cultural/regulatory one.

There is a finite resource behind what allows/causes regeneration. A regen limit makes sense to avoid an eventual population nightmare if every time lord could liver forever, barring a double tap, no matter how low the birth rate is. Still, note that the Doctor now can regenerate ONLY 507 more times or whatever the number is. With no Time Lord Regeneration Regulatory Authority he either can freely use up his natural limit or that is all the regeneration phlebotinum the Doctor was able to salvage after the time war will allow for.

Eleven is becoming the Valeyard.

After the events of A Good Man Goes To War, Eleven has the Time Lord equivalent of a nervous breakdown and decides that in order to be 'good' again, he must fix history, starting with Earth. The first of the Autumn episodes happens to be entitled 'Let's Kill Hitler' (no, seriously). Assuming the first part of this WMG is right, the desperate Doctor attempts to 'fix' the worst event in human history: the Holocaust. Obviously, it doesn't work. Through his repeated attempts at 'fixing' history in various ways, he creates a universe in which all the crazy stuff rumoured to happen in A Good Man Goes To War (Roman Empire existing in the 21st Century, pterodactyls flying around and Winston Churchill riding a mammoth, for starters) actually happens. Realising that he has now just broken history possibly beyond repair, he falls deep into a state of despair and starts to call himself the Valeyard, believing that the alliance against him are actually right. 'Fixing' the Holocaust is the event the Doctor was referring to when he asked Rory about his time as the Lone Centurion, and holds great plot importance.

  • My god... the Doctor is responsible for the cracks. All in an attempt to change the universe enough, to fix the biggest mistake of all-The Time War.
    • OK, it's been mostly Jossed by Let's Kill Hitler. However, the new trailers and some new prequel-ly materials confirm that the crazy-alternate-universe stuff DOES happen. Whether the Doctor is the cause of it has not yet been revealed.

The Doctor's death will be used to get a fresh batch of regenerations.

How? Before he dies, the Doctor will plan a Xanatos Gambit to save his life. This will involve cloning a new Time Lord body, keeping it under tight wraps, and downloading all his knowledge and personality into it. Or just creating it as a vessel for his mind. This clone body will have never regenerated before, allowing the Doctor 13 more lives. The question is how to deal with the 24th Doctor, but that's not going to be until the 2060s.

The Ganger!Doctor is/will be the Valeyard.

A slightly unhinged version of the doctor, spawning from his eleventh form (making him a "twelfth" doctor), who, due to his presumably flawlessly copied time lord DNA can regenerate, and theoretically repair his own physical instability through the healing-y powers of that regeneration? Sounds reasonable to me.

  • Noob question; Who's the Valeyard?


The 13th and "Final" Doctor will be "The Perfect Doctor", a amalgamation of all of his previous incarnations. And Ginger.

The Doctor is basically a character who has a serial dissociative identity disorder- each regeneration brings a new personality (although with the raw essence of what makes the Doctor the Doctor always remaining). One of the main ways of treating multiple personalities, especially in Hollywood Psychology? Making all of the personalities merge into a single identity. So the 13th Doctor would be as if you had slammed the personalities and characters of all the other 12 Doctors together. Oh, and he'd be Ginger, because, well, it's a running gag.

  • His appearance and skills would reflect this too- Tom Baker's scarf, Sylvester McCoy's hat (although only after his companion told him to take off a fez), Davison's celery, Tennant's suits...

Alternatively, the 13th Doctor will be constantly switching between the 12 personalities.

i.e: He'll behave like 5 one second, then switch to 11, and start a sentence the way 4 would've, but finish the sentence the way 9 would.

  • It would be awesome, but we'd all have seizures.
  • 13 incarnations. 13 episodes per season.

The Doctor's final incarnation will be Flavor Flav!!!

Susan will return for the Thirteenth Doctor's last story.

She will inherit the TARDIS. Whether she regenerates at the end or goes on for a season or two before regenerating will depend on Carol Ann Ford's health.

The series finale will be the twelfth or thirteenth doctor comatose and stuck in a human hospital.

Not damaged enough to regenerate, but too damaged for the humans to wake up. He'll be signed in as a John Doe (John Smith?) because none of his companions will be there to ID him and (metafictionally) so they won't be able to identify him. The companions will be running around trying to find him, figure out if he has a regeneration left and, if not, figure out how to get around the 12 regeneration limit.

The next series will depend on how soon the show is Uncancelled. If it takes only a couple of years, or even a single season break, they will figure out how to revive him, and the Valeyard will be a result of messing about with his regenerations. If it's more than a couple of years, like when new Who fans are Running the Asylum and can have it revived, the series will pick up twenty years from the end of the current show's run with the companions' children and the same situation.

The Last Doctor will be a kid

Every regeneration of the doctor gets younger, so if were on the eleventh doctor, who is in his twenties, when we get to the last, it should be a teen or kid, and come on, how cool would it be to see a little kid with all the doctor's quirks?

10 or 10b will return in some form

We know how the River Song plot concludes on her end, and so eventually the eleventh Doctor is going to have to give her his screwdriver and do all that other stuff, leading to her heading to the library. There is just too much potential there not to show 10 again. Granted, David Tennant probably won't come back to guest star, so they'll have to use stock footage from the library episodes for those scenes.

Alternatively, Tennant will come back as a guest star to play 10b in an episode or two, now married to Rose and going permanently by the name "John Smith".[1] John and the Eleventh Doctor will come into conflict in some way. In fact, he could be the episode's Big Bad. John may be embittered about no longer being the Doctor and the Doctor could be jealous that John was able to step off the roller coaster of being a galactic fixer and live a peaceful life. Eventually they would settle their differences, and once again go their separate ways.

The last story

The last story will involve the 13th Doctor (the ginger female one) discovering the true nature of his universe : a work of fiction. Thus, having discovered the final truth of the laws of nature in his reality, he will force the writers to come up with a good end.

  • So, sort-of Blade Runner then?
    • Hangonamo, ginger female one? We've had two ginger female companions lately, and this troper's felt for a while that there needs to be a definitive conclusion to Donna's story...

The Ginger Doctor.

We all know the doctor wants to be Ginger, but who would play him? My guess, Rupert Grint

The Ginger Doctor will be the Valeyard

Any concurrent Doctors, as well as, preceeding, succeeding Doctors will not be ginger. The good Doctors will be hilariously irate about this.

The final Doctor Who episode will have all 13 Doctors

Seriously final, will-never-be-renewed, we mean it this time seriously really truly last episode. Because it could never be topped.

  • And instead of calling it "The Thirteen Doctors", it will just be "The Doctor".
    • Gonna be pretty hard to pull off since William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and John Pertwee are all dead.
      • Computer-generated people are getting better all the time, though.
        • And it's not like they've never recast a Doctor before (Richard Hurndall playing the First Doctor in the 20th Anniversary special).

The Doctors final regeneration will be Conan O'Brien

The ultimate crazy ginger.

The Thirteenth Doctor will regenerate into...

  • A young man who looks an awful lot like the First Doctor. Time isn't a big ball or a banana...it's a wheel.
    • Or a girl.

The Doctor will have a major arc for his 'last' regeneration.

Something that occurred to me was that the Doctor is starting to run low on regenerations and I could see several things done by companions if he dies without the 'last' one.

1) Either the doctor or his companions make an equivalent devils deal with a being of power or the master to get the Doctor another regeneration or another set of them. Done by the doctors companions to bring him back or the doctor to save the world/a companion.

2) Somehow the doctor gets tied to the Masters extra regenerations. In essence now if one kills the other they both are put at risk, maybe even being sympathetically injured if nearby. This would add a few interesting new potential elements for future shows.

The 12th Doctor will have been a companion

Well, masquerading as one. It'd be interesting, wouldn't it?

    • Mickey. Out of the four guy companions of the revival series (since it's doubtful the Doctor will regenerate into a girl), he's the only one that makes sense. If it turned out to be Rory, it would put massive amounts of Squick on his and River's relationship. Jack's a bit too fond of guns. And Adam... no, just no. Which leave good old Mickey.
    • Leaving aside the massive paradoxes this idea would cause, there's also Wilf.
  1. ↑ And, perhaps, a ginger dye job courtesy of Jackie Tyler
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