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Reverting grammar cleanup is not acceptable

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GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I just rejected your latest edit because, deciding you knew better, reverted grammar cleanup because you did not like it.


That is not going to fly here. This is a wiki mainly centered around the English language, and thus we expect proper grammar in accordance with the language, because we want everyone to clearly read our contributions. Either you can meet us halfway on this or you can cease trying to submit edits. We demand a manual of style for a reason. Consider this a final warning before you are blocked from editing, for whatever period we deem fit.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I have also undone your edit of Rare Vehicles from August 14, due to the excessive amount of Word Cruft and run-on sentences in it.

I second GethN7's statement about this being a warning. You have been told repeatedly that this level of writing is not acceptable here. We have patience (some of us more than others), but that patience has a limit. We do not have the time to clean up after you anymore.

You will be blocked from editing if you do this again.

And to be sure that you see that there is a notice here: ping @EmberFist

CC: ping @Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

Welcome to All The Tropes...

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

... and thank you for your recent edits. We're glad you've joined the wiki and are enthusiastic about contributing.

However, I need to let you know that I've just rejected this passage from your recent edit of Wall Banger/Comic Books for grammar, style and logic issues.

  • Robin has recently came out as gay in the Batman comics. As in the Tim Drake version. Tim has already been established as being straight including having a Love Triangle in his solo series with Ariana and Stephanie. Now after 30 years of being into women he is gay. While not the first this has been done in comics in a way that does not make sense (looking at you Iceman), Tim really hit me hard due being my favorite Robin. The Batfamily already has Loads and Loads of Characters so what would be the harm in introducing another original character to the group that was gay if you really needed to add a second one since there is already Batwoman.

Per How to Write An Example, you should not write in the first person. Yes, even on a YMMV trope. Second, Examples Are Not Recent. If I were to read this ten years from now, would he still have "recently" come out as gay? Third, you need to keep an eye on your grammar/tenses, particularly in the first sentence. Fourth, per our Style Guide, we don't use numerals for values under 101. Fifth, remember Comic Book Time. He may have thirty-two years of comic book history, but the character hasn't lived those thirty-two years. In-Universe he's what, eighteen to twenty at most? Depending on the continuity you use, of course, he's actually in the stereotypical age range when young men are likely to make radical decisions on their sexuality.

Now this is a YMMV trope, so once you address the structural, grammar and style issues your opinion is not going to get it bounced. I just wanted to point out that your entry sounds a bit like those Overwatch fanboys who are in denial over the Word of God that Tracer is lesbian; you may want to rewrite it so it doesn't have quite so much of an obvious "I'm upset that this hot fictional guy I like is supposed to be gay and wouldn't be interested in me" subtext to it.

Once again, thanks for contributing and welcome.

-- Looney Toons, admin

CC: @Labster, @Robkelk, @QuestionableSanity, @Derivative, @SelfCloak, @GethN7

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Further, try not to let your PERSONAL feelings leak into a YMMV topic. While they discuss items of controversy, it's supposed to be what would be contentious to the fandom as a whole. In this case, Tim Drake-Robin suddenly coming out as another sexuality despite years of canon stating otherwise would obviously be contentious to the fandom, nix the part about it's obviously upsetting to you personally. You can get the same point across by pointing out the dissenting evidence for the fandom contention without having to let your personal bias leak into the discussion of the controversy.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I've just finished going through your changes to Wall Banger/Film, and I really need to re-iterate this: please pay attention to your grammar and usage. Your edits to this page were rife with missing markup, missing words, missing punctuation, essentially random/mismatched verb tenses, and spelling errors (all of which I found I have corrected). You also tend to write in run-on sentences that just keep going and going and going like the Eveready rabbit. Please take a little extra time when writing to make sure you're turning out the best text you can.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Bit of an update:


https://allthetropes.org/w/index.php?title=Just_Plane_Wrong&curid=77246&diff=1919548&oldid=1919527


As you can see, there were a ton of errors here. I let it through and was asleep at the wheel doing so, for which I take the L on without shame, that's on me, but you need to keep in mind we are not here to chronically clean up after your horrid grammar, making it presentable BEFORE it gets posted in on you.


If you need to practice or refine your edits, or simply want to post them somewhere we can check them, then here is your Sandbox to post whatever you need to without any restriction by our Moderation tool:


User talk:EmberFist/sandbox

Forgive us if we seem anal about good grammar, but we want our work to look good and want other editors to make legible edits as well.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I was about to reject your edit to Tanks, But No Tanks but a different admin approved it before I could. There were multiple issues with your contribution, which I've since repaired:

  • You don't need to say that an entry on the trope's list of examples is an example of the trope - it's on the example list for the trope. Lampshading that is Word Cruft.
  • "aforementioned" is listed as a single word in both the Merriam-Webster (US) and Cambridge (UK) dictionaries. Cambridge also lists "afore-mentioned" as acceptable. Your change to "afore mentioned" is simply incorrect. Please do not assume something you do not recognize is incorrect; instead, look it up.
  • Yes, there are still tank destroyers on the battlefield. That is not a reason to remove the sentence "Gradually, as armor got heavier and engines got better, both were merged into the single "main battle tank" category that dominates the battlefield to this day." That sentence says that MBTs dominate the battlefield, not that they are the only tanks on the battlefield. I've replaced the sentence.
  • Your added examples had many run-on sentences, which I have repaired by splitting the entries into multiple bullet points, adding punctuation, and removing cruft.

That last one is worrying to me, since you've been warned about run-on sentences earlier in this thread. Please make an effort to learn grade-school English.

@Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

Derivative (talkcontribs)

Sorry for approving, as an outsider, it didn't look that bad at first glance.

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