Ron the Death Eater/Anime and Manga/Gundam

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Examples of Ron the Death Eater in Gundam fan works include:


  • Lacus Clyne suffers this fate from a large part of the Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny community. While certain parts of her actions, and more so in the case of her accomplice Kira Yamato, could certainly be a question of perspective, large portions of the community have decided that the anti-war, egalitarian Idol Singer who declined to take control of her country at one point, is, in truth, a psychopathic Manipulative Bitch who hires assassins to attempt to kill her to motivate her retired boyfriend return to piloting so that she can usurp control of her home country from the current ruler of said country. Nice logic fail people.
  • Flay Allster suffers from this a lot. While she isn't exactly innocent in canon (she does go Yandere for a while), there are reasons for her Sanity Slippage, mostly how she witnessed her father getting blown up. A stunning number of Alternate Universe and High School AU fics, which don't feature Flay's traumatic experience or the existence of Coordinators (thereby removing the Fantastic Racism), nonetheless decide to make her a Complete Monster. She's invariably the bitchy, spoiled, jealous and unfaithful girlfriend that Kira is dating at the fic's beginning solely so that he can break up with her to be with Lacus (or Athrun). She always goes out of her way to pick on Lacus, and does her best to make all the characters miserable, for absolutely no reason. Even the kindest and most forgiving characters will feel nothing but scorn for her, and of course she feels nothing but hatred for them (as a being of pure evil, she can't feel love). Needless to say, Flay's canonical redemption will be completely ignored.
  • Gundam SEED Destiny's Rey Za Burrel gets hit with this andDraco in Leather Pants depending on which side of the Broken Base you're on. While the Durandal was right! crowd turn him into some sort of hero, haters on the other side are prone to writing him as a monster and a sociopath who cares nothing for Shinn and Luna and shares his predecessor's Omnicidal Maniac philosophy. In reality Rey's a sympathetic Anti-Villain who thinks that Utopia Justifies the Means, cares for Shinn and Luna even as he manipulates them, and rejects Rau Le Creuset's desire to Kill All Humans, seeking instead to build a better future. He's a bad guy, absolutely, but not to the degree that fans make him out to be.
  • Some Gundam protagonists such as Amuro Ray and Kamille Bidan have been victims to this trope, too, due to their apparently unlikeable personalities, as compared to the Draco in Leather Pants villains Char Aznable and Haman Karn, who, in the eyes of fans, can absolutely can do no wrong.
    • Kycilia Zabi and Quess Paraya are also common targets of Char 'pantsers. Because, you know, being a stern leader who takes out a Complete Monster and a realistic 13 year-old girl are so much more heinous crimes than backstabbing murder and plotting to kill billions of people.
      • Kycilia wasn't exactly innocent to begin with; she had been plotting against Gihren for some time, and not just because he was a Complete Monster. As well, if one bothers to watch Char's Counterattack, one will find more than enough reason to hate Quess, "realistic" or not.
        • Still, Quess' crimes pale in comparison to Char's, and yet, she gets all the hatred.
    • Although not as frequent due to dying off early in the series, Garma Zabi from the original Mobile Suit Gundam is a victim to this trope by fans that are a little too obsessed with Char. Despite Garma's concern for Earth Federation civilians landing safely and refusing to destroy mountains for a military tactic, fans label him as a spoiled brat because Char calls him this frequently in his thoughts. They also label him as greedy for trying to impress his sister Kycilia, despite Garma telling his own fiance Icelina that if push comes to shove he will choose her over leading this war. Leading to his attempt to get his sister's approval to be more of trying to establish a family bond. Char fans also claim Garma was Too Dumb to Live due to trusting Char and that he deserved to die so Char could avenge Zeon Deikun, despite Char giving no indication that he had more sinister motives concerning Garma and the fact that Degwin was never fully proven to have murdered Char's father as well as Sayla, Char's own sister, being appalled by Char's revenge.
      • The alternate retelling manga Gundam The Origin gives Garma an Alternate Character Interpretation that matches a lot of the DILP listed above. There, he's a spoiled brat who gets upset that Char is getting glory and whines to big brother Dozle to get a command post so he can be the hero too. He boasts to Char about his new command (Char responds by snarking at him) and is shown to be incompetent, in contrast to the anime where as mentioned he's A Father to His Men and wants to prove that he deserves his command.
  • Relena Darlian Peacecraft perhaps gets hit with this the hardest out of any character, at least in America, primarily due to Die for Our Ship reasons. The usual fanon portrayal is a shrill, posessive, catty Yandere homophobic killer bitch, with some stories going so far as to turn her into a female Sauron who needs to be taken out by the heroic (and, of course, gay) Gundam Team. In canon, the character is usually softspoken, understanding, an Actual Pacifist, states in her Image Song that she'd let go if Heero found someone else, and on top of that Duo (the person Yaoi Fangirls want Heero to get with instead of her) actually does his best to set the two of them up together. The closest she ever gets to her fanfic portrayal is in perhaps the first two or three episodes where she's kind of snarky and backhandedly polite to some condescending Alliance soldiers, but that's about it.
    • Even if you ignore the Die for Our Ship, plenty of fans hate Relena because they think she's a useless idiot who detracts from the plot by opposing the war, and is unrealistically naive by believing in peace and pacifism. Never mind that Gundam is and always has been anti-war, Relena arguably does more to resolve the main plot than the Gundam Pilots and demonstrates a good deal of intelligence and savvy despite only being 15 during the TV show and 16 in The Movie.
    • This also happens to Quatre Raberba Winner. There are fanfictions that portray him as being a Complete Monster, kicking puppies for fun and being abusive towards his boyfriend. In canon, yes, there was the incident with the ZERO System, but let's not forget: 1) All the other pilots had bad experiences with the system (all except Duo overcame it) 2) Quatre went particularly berserk because he was already stressed from the death of his father, his sister being seriously injured, and from the argument he had been having with said father over being a Gundam Pilot, and he was not thinking clearly (especially under ZERO) 3) Quatre felt really bad about what he did. Except for that one time, Quatre is a sweetie-pie. Why, he even apologizes to enemy soldiers for killing them!
    • Quatre does have issues--probably more than Trowa, really, because as the end of the above post indicates he believes killing is bad even when necessary and yet also believes that it is required and acceptable for him to do it under the circumstances. He's set himself up to be Hitokiri Battousai, escept he's smart enough at least not to put himself and his machine into the hands of any one faction. He has not made the transition to being a killer as smoothly as he probably needs to; the other idealists among the pilots have solid warrior mentalities to fall back on. But he does not have the kind of issues he's given in such stories.
    • However he's the only one who had that level of issues with the mind-warping ZERO system, probably because of his inner conflict as well as all the crap he got put through while flying it. Heero and Duo coped better, Trowa is Trowa, and Wu-Fei just used it to go on a Vision Quest. ZERO told him to work with the other pilots. So he did.
  • Marina Ismail from Mobile Suit Gundam 00, another Expy of Relena Peacecraft, is given similar treatment. Although a devoted total pacifist and a symbol of the fainting good in humans, so many fans tend to hate her for excuses such as being a totally useless, indecisive Mary Sue. Even her heart-touching song, Tomorrow, does not help.
  • A parody of such a trope is Kira Yamato himself in one Japanese Gundam flash animation site in which Dearka Elsman becomes a hero against the "evil Kira". Normally known as a sincerely good-hearted, peace-loving hero, in this animated short he is altered as one such trope due to the fact he pilots Gundams terribly well.
    • Similarly, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 nods to Lacus' Hatedom by having a non-canon storyline where she really does turn out to be an evil, manipulative queen-bitch who hops into a Gundam and kicks her own boyfriend's ass after he realizes the truth.
  • Flit Asuno from Gundam AGE is getting some of this treatment after the timeskip. While it is true that he Took a Level in Jerkass and that his way of dealing with Yurin's death is unhealthy and sending him Jumping Off the Slippery Slope, bear in mind that the girl he loved was brutally murdered in front of his own eyes by Desil, an Ax Crazy Enfante Terrible Complete Monster, and that he's seen many civilians (including his own mom) slaughtered by the Veigan, so he's got some pretty damn good reasons to hate them. But tell that to the Misaimed Fandom who, after the reveal that the Veigan were Human All Along, seems to have forgotten the atrocities they pulled.
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