All The Tropes talk:What Goes Where On the Wiki

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Is somebody cleaning this up, or are we tossing it?

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Summary by Robkelk

The page was finally salvaged - cleaned up to match ATT's organization.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

For everybody who wants to see the page remain but hasn't updated it, this is your one-week warning.

This page hasn't been edited since December 2017. If it hasn't been edited by May the Fourth, 2018 (not just a quick formatting change, but some actual work at making the page document ATT's infrastructure), then I'm hitting the Delete button.

The work doesn't need to be completed by May 4, but if nobody's even started the work, I'll take that as an indication that nobody wants to do the work.

Labster (talkcontribs)

I took a shot at it. To me, the biggest problem is that the original used too many words. As far as I can tell, the clear/concise/witty rule never applied on TVT policy pages.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Thanks, Labster.

I'll take the speedy-deletion tag off of the page.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Oh, yeah, that's muuuuuch better.

One question, though:

Make sure to explicitly mention the example is "In-Universe" or "Invoked". It turns off the YMMV flagger.

We have a YMMV flagger?

Labster (talkcontribs)

Well, YMMV Tropes are underlined now, so we do have a flagger. It's less obnoxious. But so far as In-U or Invoked, it's a bit more difficult from how we do it. There's no way to tell from inside the parser the context from which the template was used. It's not possible to look around with pure CSS, but we could use jQuery and do something like $('li.contains("invoked") > .ymmvlink').removeClass('.ymmvlink'). Or alternatively, on the server side with another extension. But I don't know the extent to which we need this -- it's not an annoying red dot and a ⚖. It's possible to add those.... but I'm not sure why you'd want to?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You know, I'd completely forgotten the underlining.

And no, we don't need anything more than that. The amount of benefit gotten for the amount of work needed is too small. And we're not TVT, we don't need obvious flags to be used as reasons for banning people when they don't misbehave enough.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Oh, it that what the underlining is for? I was wondering why some tropes were underlined.

Lequinni (talkcontribs)

Man, it should be pointed out more blatantly that underlined links are for tropes are for YMMV tropes, or make them look a bit more blatant since they have the same color of "normal" tropes otherwise. It would be helpful for those who create work pages a lot and don't remember which is which in the spur of linking.

Is this too tied to TVT's organization to keep?

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Summary by Robkelk

Agreement was reached that the page could be salvaged.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Just what it says in the title.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

And in ten months no one has said "no", so unless someone objects in the next 24 hours, it gets deleted.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Which one? If it's something that has been purge earlier, I try to unknowingly bring it back, and gets a strange message then I know it's too tied to TvT.


Oh, I get it now. How about clean the "What Goes Where" page until it fits to ATT's standards, if it can't be salvage, go ahead and delete it/start from scratch.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I concur with the last statement.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

"What Goes Where" instruction have to be somewhere, or it will be everywhere and nowhere. But with different namespaces and Workshop instead of ykttw, it obviously needs a rewrite.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Someone should try their hand at it, then.

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