Those Two Guys: Difference between revisions

* According to [[Word of God]], Miguel and Tulio of ''[[The Road to El Dorado]]'' are Those Two Guys recast as protagonists because the writers had seen so many memorable sidekicks upstage the boring heroes.

* Lafayette and Napoleon from ''[[The Aristocats]]''

* Honest John the fox and Gideon the cat in ''[[Pinocchio (Disney)|Pinocchio]]''.

* The rats Nick and Fetcher from ''[[Chicken Run (Animation)|Chicken Run]]''.

** {{spoiler|Neither pair was in the fourth, which was a disappointment.}}

* ''[[Manos the Hands of Fate|Manos: The Hand of Fate]]'' has those two teenagers who are sitting in a car making out with each other. They have no relevance to the plot in any way. It also has a pair of policemen, whose presence at least makes sense, even if they are just as meaningless.

* Jay and Silent Bob in [[The View Askewniverse|most Kevin Smith movies]].

** Additionally, Steve-Dave and Walt "The Fanboy" Flanagan fit this role from time to time as well, though obviously not to the same extent as Jay and Bob.

*** As Askewniverse movies tend to be extremely dialogue driven, ''any'' Two Guys can be up-graded and down-graded into a greek chorus.

** Somewhat subverted in that although the other ''characters'' consider Jay and Silent Bob to be random, unimportant guys, Kevin Smith fans loved them so much that they actually ''gained'' importance as the Askewniverse movies went on. Not only did they end up with their own movie (which could still fall under the trope) but in [[Dogma]] they are major characters without whom the world would have ended.

* ''Hannah Montana: The Movie'' has Rico and Oliver as two regular school guys helping out at Lily's party and not having any importance to the plot. In the TV series, it's not quite like that as Oliver in particular does have some central roles.

* ''[[Star Wars]]'': R2-D2 and C-3PO.

* Privates Grogan and Baker in ''[[The Bridge On the River Kwai]]''.

* From [[Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World]]; Dingy Bell and Benjy Benjamin. Also, the two gas station attendants, Ray and Irwin.

* Val and Earl from ''[[Tremors]]'' manage to be this trope despite also being the unlikely heroes of the film

 

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* Officers Michael Francis Murphy and Tony Bellows from the live action ''[[The Flash]]'' series.

* ''[[The West Wing (TV)|The West Wing]]'''s Ed and Larry. Or Larry and Ed. They're in every meeting, advise the President on every issue and no one knows who the hell they are.

** Lampshaded a couple of times when they are given the wrong folders, and when someone asks if they always walk around together

* Ed and Harry from ''[[Supernatural (TV)|Supernatural]]'''s Ghostfacers. They acquire a team later, but in their first appearance it's just them.

** Hilariously, they seem to consider Sam and Dean an example of this trope.

** Except the Holmesian Double Act is very rarely minor characters. The iconic "double act" are Jago and Lightfoot from Talons of Weng-Chiang. Jago owns the theatre where Weng-Chiang is hidden and his agent plies his trade, and Lightfoot is a police pathologist and the Doctor's de facto landlord for the story. Both important to the plot to the point that they are more important then the Doctor until the finale.

** The trope gets parodied mercilessly in the revived series episode ''A Good Man Goes To War'', with the introduction of the 'fat, thin, gay, married, Anglican marines.' Who don't just have no names, but [[Lampshade Hanging|don't even need them]].

* The gate guards from ''[[Kings]]'' seem poised to fulfill this role.

* Huey and Gardino on ''[[Due South]]''.

** Terribly ''awesome''. Also, while they can be Those Two Guys in some episodes, they seem different from a lot of examples on this page in a lot of ways. First of all, they aren't indistinguishable from each other. Second, they aren't clueless about the show's [[Masquerade]]: it's revealed near the end of Season 2 that they know more about the [[Power Trio]] than anyone else, although they have still guessed wrong in a big way.

* ''[[Series/Babylon Five|Babylon 5]]'' has a few characters like this, although not consistently. In the Season 2 finale. Vir and Lennier are shown discussing their respective bosses' antics, secret agendas, clandestine meetings and unexpected character changes and commiserating over them and it is implied it is a weekly ritual. We also get two maintenence workers in a Season 5 episodes with no clue what is going on as the station comes under attack by an unknown alien race. There's also Franklin and Marcus who are actually pretty important to the story, but still fulfilling a secondary story function to the main characters and sometimes comment on the events of the main story. Marus and Ivanova also occasionally veer into this territory, although [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as their characters are very distinct, and {{spoiler|Marcus's feelings for Ivanova complicate things.}}

* An interesting take on the idea is in HBO's ''[[Rome]]'', where Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo may be two of the main characters, but they are also arguably playing a Rosencrantz-and-Guildenstern role where their stories, although important to them, are but a minor side-show compared to the unfolding civil war between Caesar and Pompey, which they observe and sometimes affect. This angle is arguably lost in the second season, when their stories are largely separated from the bigger, more important characters, at least until the finale when they side with their patrons (Mark Antony and Octavian, respectively) once again.

* Ryan and Esposito from ''[[Castle]]'' fit very well, along with being possible [[Ensemble Darkhorse|darkhorses]].

== Visual Novels ==

* In ''[[Fate Stay Night|Fate/Stay Night]]'', Shirou also only has one (Issei), while Rin, who narrates the prologue, has ''three'' (the track team).

* [[Princess Waltz]] is fairly unique among [[Visual Novel|Visual Novels]] by actually providing character models for the random classmates, most of which are Those Two Guys. Most notable are Nodoka (Cute and Perky) and Kazuko (Talkative and Loud). {{spoiler|In a twist, one of the even more minor Those Two Guys turns out to be the [[Secret Identity]] of a fairly major character.}}

* [[Spirited Competitor|Shizune]] [[Club Stub|and]] [[Large Ham|Misha]] of ''[[Katawa Shoujo (Visual Novel)|Katawa Shoujo]]'' become this in nearly every route but their own, frequently pestering Hisao to do work for the Student Council or [[Shipper On Deck|commenting on his love life]].

* "The Comet and the Pirates" arc of ''[[Station V 3]]'' has "Those Two Frog-Fish Guys" who are obsessed with taking over things (the Station, an incoming comet, the coming-soon ski resort ...)

* ''[[Ansem Retort]]'' has [http://www.ansemretort.org/ansemretort/index.html?comic=324 Darth Maul and Marluxia] filling this role. Maul is lazy, offensive, violent, and as much of a [[Cloudcuckoolander]] as anyone can be without being retarded. Marluxia is the gayest [[Straight Man]] ever -- relatively speaking that is, considering that ''[[Ansem Retort]]'' takes place in Cloudcuckooland.

* The unnamed [[Order of the Stick]] roaches become "Those Two Dictyoptera" as they always appear in pairs to spur on commentary or to perform sight gags such as [[Flipping the Table]].

* Ben and Beth, Sam's two friends at school in ''[[Molten Blade]]''

** In the main six, T.J. and Vince are considered this.

* Mervis and Dunglap from [[Cat Dog]]. They also count as the two only sane guys.

* Larry and Steve from the first season of ''[[Rugrats]]''.

* Reggie and Bruno Bullnerd from ''[[Chalk Zone]]''.

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