Motion to rename to "Fictional Filming Procedure" succeeded
As discussed here.
Splitting the motion into its own thread because the previous thread contains a failed motion to rename the trope to a different name, and I don't want future readers to confuse the two motions.
Pinging everybody who took part in the previous discussion: @Agiletek @GentlemensDame883 @GethN7 @HeneryVII @Jlaw @Just a 1itt1e bit further @Kuma @Lequinni @Looney Toons @RivetVermin @Tad Cipher @Umbire the Phantom
Shit, I just pinged everyone to the previous thread before seeing this one, that's on me. Yes, full support for the new name
My vote was actually for "Contentious Cinematography" - I hadn't realized Geth had suggested this in between my last peek at that thread and now.
MOD: And that's another reason to have the vote in its own thread - so that misunderstandings like that one don't happen.
That was more "me not reading" than anything like that, but nonetheless.
Also, the link to the original thread is red - see if this works instead.
As for my vote on this, I do believe most choices are better than the current name, so for lack of any other option I'll tentatively support it.
Five days, ten votes in favour, none against. Renaming the page.
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Motion to rename to "Artistic License Cinematography" failed
I'm about to rest for a bit, but there's not much detail to go into regardless - "Artistic License Cinematography" or a similar name would probably be more apropos in my opinion, both to match the rest of the similar tropes on the wiki and to dispense with the loaded first impression that makes "this isn't necessarily a bad thing" a bit tougher to absorb otherwise.
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Agreed - we should be keeping in mind Tropes Are Not Bad and Tropes Are Not Good when naming any trope.
Agreed -- which is mildly annoying since I just added this trope to a couple pages in the last day or two. <grin>
We never took a vote on this one, did we?
I move to rename "You Fail Film School Forever" to "Artistic License Cinematography".
Pinging the usual folks, but everybody is welcome to vote: @Agiletek @Bauerbach @Dominicmgm @GentlemensDame883 @Goo Monster @H-Games~Documentation @HelljmprRookie @HeneryVII @Jlaw @Just a 1itt1e bit further @Kuma @Lequinni @RivetVermin @Tad Cipher @The23rdCamper @TheEric132 @Umbire the Phantom @Utini501 @Xemylixa @Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak
While I'm not fond of the current name, I never liked the "Artistic License ___" naming. 1: It very strongly implies the trope is when the writer knew better and deliberately chose not to (less of a case here) . 2: It's extremely ineloquent.
"Fictional Formula for Fictional Filmmaking", "Fictional Fundamentals for Fictional Filmmaking, "Fictional Filmmaking Fundamentals for Fictional Filmmakers" (possibly with "of" instead of "for")?
Agiletek actually does - I'm rescinding my vote on that note because I wanna hear out the thought process for this proposed naming scheme, since I actually don't disagree with those first two points at all.
I'm not opposed to a rename myself, but I think a shorter rename is a better idea. I propose "Contentious Cinematography"
The essence of the trope is a use of film technique that is under contention for is validity and soundness and rather YMMV in nature. Besides, my proposed name has Added Alliterative Appeal.
I prefer "Fictional Filmaking" myself, as an abbreviated version of Agiletek proposals.
@Lequinni Ultimately, I'm in favor of any suggestion that is concise and accurate.
Likewise, and I wanna see what Agile thinks - I feel that "Fictional Filmmaking" as a name describes something completely different from this trope.
"Fictional film-making" could work. My personal suggestions would be "fictional filming schedule" or "film-makers dream shoot" to emphasise how idealised these portrayals are. It's a tough one to summarise, certainly "Artistic License Cinematography" nor "You Fail Film School Forever" gets the intended message across.
Fictional Filming Procedure? Short, fairly concise, gets the essential point across.
Unless anyone comes up with anything better, Fictional Filming Procedure gets a vote from me.
Well, as soon as we decided "Artistic License anything" wasn't on the table any more, we gave up on the "consistency" part of the name... but, hey, that's not what the Tropers want.
I do believe my motion has been defeated.
Anybody want to make a replacement motion? Or are people still happy to be suggesting alternate names without being ready to pick one yet?
So, counting Geth, that's 8 votes for Fictional Filming Procedure, anyone against? Pinging everyone cause it feels like this has dragged on a while and is otherwise looking good to go
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@RivetVermin, we are having a vote on the matter in a separate thread. Please vote there.