Red Hood and the Outlaws/YMMV

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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Jason is trying too hard to copy Bruce by wearing his symbol and forming a team which is a knock-off of the Outsiders. At the same time, he's using an identity that belonged to the Joker, and his teammates are his surrogate brother's friend and ex-girlfriend. Jason is trying too hard to make up for, or rather, hide, the fact that he has absolutely nothing in his life except his rage and resentment by taking things and friends that belong to other people. Does he honestly give a damn about Starfire and Roy, or is just using them because he considers Roy to be nothing more than a pathetic hanger on and Starfire as an emotionally devoid alien powerhouse with a skewed sense of memory and a warped physical perception of human beings. The fact that he only included the two on his team because he washed up on Starfire's island and learned Roy was about to be executed adds to the credence that his team was only put together through half-assed improvisation.
  • And the Fandom Rejoiced: Many were happy Jason Todd was getting his own book.
  • Growing the Beard: The 2nd issue onwards.
    • Issue 6, which recounts how Starfire and Jason met, is also considered pretty good.
  • Fan Dumb: A lot of this happened on both sides after the first issue. Lobdell addressed the people who dropped it after the first issue by saying "It's like people booing at the first fifteen minutes of a movie and expecting it to change the ending" since he'd already plotted out several more issues by the time it was released. Defenders of the book were also all too quick to label anyone criticizing it a prude, a feminazi, or other variations of the same phrase.
  • Fetish Retardant: Spines don't bend that way! To others, Starfire's extreme emotional detachment towards her sexual partners, with the implication that this is meant to be portrayed for titillation rather than drama, is more than a little disturbing.
  • In Name Only: How some readers feel about this version of Starfire, since she's such a radical departure from her previous characterization, especially her line about love having nothing to do with sex, since this is the polar opposite of what she's said before on the subject. This has caused her to be dubbed "KINO" or "SINO" on some message boards.
  • Internet Backdraft: The reaction to Kori's new personality was... not received well, to say the least. The fact that Lobdell's response was to call the people criticizing his portrayal of Kori misogynistic and xenophobic didn't help things at all, nor did the fact that he focused on the people using slut-shaming language towards Kori while ignoring the people who made well thought out, rational criticisms of the book's portrayal of gender and sex.
    • Numerous fans were also turned off by Lobdell's rationalization of Lian Harper's nonexistence. There had been a least a certain amount of fans who were hoping that Lian's death would be retconned in the new continuity, judging from the cover to #1 featuring Roy with both arms. Only for the company to retcon her existence entirely.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Jason may be this. After a conversation with a stewardess, whom he takes interest in, he finds out that she slipped him her number. He promptly throws it away, considering his life so awful that she is lucky that they will never cross paths again.
  • Narm: Starfire's new costume is so ridiculous to many people that she's impossible to take seriously, and her sexual dialog doesn't help a bit. Nor does this anatomically impossible pose.
  • One True Threesome: Part of what was the first wave of fanart for the series. After the title had ONLY been announced.
    • And after issue one, in which Starfire has sex with Roy, and Jason states he'd "been with" her. In what might be a conscious rejection of the trope (and/or a Retcon), issue six reveals this to have been spending the entire night talking with her.
  • Unfortunate Implications: One of the biggest causes of Internet Backdraft was Kori's line in the first issue where she says that she doesn't remember anything about her former time with the Titans and doesn't recognize the names of her former teammates (including Dick Grayson, to whom she was engaged), which many readers took to mean that she has the memory of a goldfish and made the idea that she could consent pretty dubious. Later on it's shown that she was faking it, but even that doesn't come across as mentally healthy. Add to that the fact that Roy thought she really was amnesiac at the time and still had sex with her and he doesn't come out looking good either.
    • In general, Starfire's character, especially the way her nonemotional promiscuity has been depicted. There are ways to portray a tired, lonely, emotionally defeated young woman seeking comfort through anonymous hookups, and this is not one of them.
    • The second issue also featured a stewardess (the same one from A Death In The Family, incidentally) who flirts with Jason by leaning over his seat and gives him her number. When Lobdell was confronted over the fact that this was extremely unprofessional behavior on her part his response was that something similar had happened to him with a stewardess.
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