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Your Mileage May Vary on any of the articles listed below. What that means could be a couple of different things:


'''Your Mileage May Vary''', most commonly seen on the wiki as '''YMMV''' (because we love FLLA's), is a way of saying that the trope inherently involves some kind of judgement call. Not everyone agrees that [[Happy Days]] got worse with the Fonz [[Jumped the Shark]] -- some loved the whole show, and some never liked it. One [[troper]]'s [[Fridge Logic]] was already another troper's [[I Knew It]].
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'''''The article might call for a value judgement and your judgement call could be different from another [[TROPER]]'s.'''''

So if you see these tropes on a page, don't freak out because {{smallcaps|someone is wrong on the internet!!!1!}} (Do, however, feel free to get upset at a YMMV trope used as a [[Zero Context Example]].)

In general, they fall into two different categories:

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'''''The article might call for a value judgement and your judgement call could be different from another [[Troper]]'s.'''''


::Example -- The article claims that a character is [[Complete Monster|completely lacking in redeeming features]]. Your idea of "irredeemable" and another's idea of it might (almost certainly will) differ. Each of you is making a judgment call. Great! Have fun with that. It just doesn't go on the work's main page. We want the [[Trope|tropes]] listed there to be one hundred percent ''present in the work'' without coming down to personal opinion.
::Example -- The article claims that a character is [[Complete Monster|completely lacking in redeeming features]]. Your idea of "irredeemable" and another's idea of it might (almost certainly will) differ. Each of you is making a judgment call. Great! Have fun with that. It just doesn't go on the work's main page. We want the [[Trope|tropes]] listed there to be one hundred percent ''present in the work'' without coming down to personal opinion.
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See [[YMMV Index]] for a list of works that have a YMMV page.
See [[YMMV Index]] for a list of works that have a YMMV page.


In general, these shouldn't be added to the main page for a work. The exception is if it's an [[In Universe]] example, where the ''characters'' of the show itself invoke the trope to get a reaction from other characters.
Don't add these in the main page. Not as "played", straight or otherwise. They go on the YMMV page. The rule against "[[This Troper]]"-like statements also counts for these. For ease of quickly identifying items that belong on the YMMV page, just look for the links that begin with the large, brightly-colored bullet point.


We're working on a way to display these slightly differently -- probably with different colored links.
'''The only way this can be allowed on the main page, is if one of these tropes happens in the show, ''and'' gets that reaction from the ''characters'' that these tropes often get from the audience.''' This is what we call an [[In Universe]] example. But ''make sure'' to use the "InUniverse" or "<nowiki>[[invoked]]</nowiki>" markup so that the bullet point will not get tagged red.


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Please note that instead of adding or removing pages from this index directly, you should post to the [[Forum:All The Tropes|the forum]], and gather consensus for your addition or removal.
Please index ''redirects'' to any of these tropes on [[YMMV Redirects]] rather than here, so that they don't mess up navigation via the index bar but still get the red dot.

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See also [[About/What Goes Where On the Wiki|What Goes Where On the Wiki]], [[Trivia Trope]].
See also [[About/What Goes Where On the Wiki|What Goes Where On the Wiki]], [[Trivia Trope]].


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Revision as of 07:43, 14 November 2013

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Your Mileage May Vary, most commonly seen on the wiki as YMMV (because we love FLLA's), is a way of saying that the trope inherently involves some kind of judgement call. Not everyone agrees that Happy Days got worse with the Fonz Jumped the Shark -- some loved the whole show, and some never liked it. One troper's Fridge Logic was already another troper's I Knew It.

So if you see these tropes on a page, don't freak out because someone is wrong on the internet!!!1! (Do, however, feel free to get upset at a YMMV trope used as a Zero Context Example.)

In general, they fall into two different categories:

The article might call for a value judgement and your judgement call could be different from another Troper's.

Example -- The article claims that a character is completely lacking in redeeming features. Your idea of "irredeemable" and another's idea of it might (almost certainly will) differ. Each of you is making a judgment call. Great! Have fun with that. It just doesn't go on the work's main page. We want the tropes listed there to be one hundred percent present in the work without coming down to personal opinion.

The article might be about differences of opinion or Audience Reactions.

Example -- Everybody who doesn't like the work have gotten together, formed a Hatedom and as such share a certain view of the work. As sure as the Sun will rise tomorrow, there will also be a Fandom and there will be wars and rumors of wars. These wars are stories of a sort, they are constructed from tropes like Revenge Fics, Fan Fics, trolling ... the list is pretty long.
Evidently the fans and the haters enjoy these battles. Okay. Best of luck to them. The point is that there is no accounting for taste. Entries about this kind of story, though, don't go in a work's page; that is a place for storytelling tropes. Audience Reactions are a part of the conflict, not the story the conflict is about.

See YMMV Index for a list of works that have a YMMV page.

In general, these shouldn't be added to the main page for a work. The exception is if it's an In Universe example, where the characters of the show itself invoke the trope to get a reaction from other characters.

We're working on a way to display these slightly differently -- probably with different colored links.

Please note that instead of adding or removing pages from this index directly, you should post to the the forum, and gather consensus for your addition or removal.

See also What Goes Where On the Wiki, Trivia Trope.

Your Mileage May Vary on any of the articles listed below.


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