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* [[Darth Wiki]]: [[Downplayed]]. Here it is, [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiSpeak|''The Devil's Dictionary'' of Wikipedia]].
* [[Darth Wiki]]: [[Downplayed]]. Here it is, [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiSpeak|''The Devil's Dictionary'' of Wikipedia]].
* [[Defictionalization]]: Wikipedia has proven ''itself'' correct [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/10/2211220 at least once].
* [[Defictionalization]]: Wikipedia has proven ''itself'' correct [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/10/2211220 at least once].
* [[Digital Piracy Is Evil]]: Apparently [http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100803/od_yblog_upshot/fbi-will-fight-valiantly-to-protect-the-integrity-of-its-seal-from-internet-encyclopedians FBI threatened to sue Wikipedia for using its logo].
* [[Digital Piracy Is Evil]]: Apparently [http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100803/od_yblog_upshot/fbi-will-fight-valiantly-to-protect-the-integrity-of-its-seal-from-internet-encyclopedians FBI threatened to sue Wikipedia for using its logo]. [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/13/wikimedia_npg/ National Portrait Gallery] had 3000 claims.
** Copyright is [[Serious Business]] on Wikipedia. Text copied from a website without permission will be deleted in seconds. An image with invalid copyright information, or one which has not been released under an appropriate license, will be deleted [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria|unless it has a fair use rationale]]. [[Digital Piracy Is Okay|Wikipedia doesn't really pursue copyrights of their own, however.]]
** Copyright is [[Serious Business]] on Wikipedia. Text copied from a website without permission will be deleted in seconds. An image with invalid copyright information, or one which has not been released under an appropriate license, will be deleted [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria|unless it has a fair use rationale]]. [[Digital Piracy Is Okay|Wikipedia doesn't really pursue copyrights of their own, however.]]
* [[Drive-By Updater]]: In an odd twist, even useful drive-by-edits are sometimes reverted.
* [[Drive-By Updater]]: In an odd twist, even useful drive-by-edits are sometimes reverted.

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We can't repel information of that magnitude!
"At three in the morning I looked at my clock and thought, 'Good god! What on earth have I been doing for four hours?!' I looked at my screen. 'Plot summaries of Power Rangers episodes.' Damn."
Anonymous Wikipedia addict

The Other Wiki. The wiki that most people are familiar with. The one that isn't us.

Wikipedia is the most famous wiki out there, and is mostly responsible for inspiring the creation of other wikis (although it was not the first). It presents its information as an encyclopaedia and focuses mainly on real-life information.

Given Wikipedia's role as a central information source, you can probably gain more info on the "what" of (for example) Star Trek from it than you can from actually watching the show, and that's nice. Here?

Here, you can get a glimmering of why the show is like that.

Here at All The Tropes, we only care about how things apply to fiction. Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in people's heads. Got the kernel of an idea bouncing about your head? Throw it down here and see what grows. If we're lucky, our Neologism for it will catch on. (And quite a few have already.)

Wikipedia has an entry on itself and its history, for further reading.

Wikipedia also has an entry on the original TV Tropes wiki, but not one on All The Tropes. Yet. It also lists ATT in its directory of alternatives, encouraging people to record their trope knowledge here, instead of there. See the We Are Not Alone Index for tropes that have Wikipedia articles.


Tropes used in Wikipedia include:
Unfortunately, besides the serial deleters, there's also a phenomenon of 'page hoarders' who will sit on a certain page and revert and delete any changes made to it, and will spend all day arguing about it until the admins give in to them. Forget Wiki Vandals, these guys are Wikipedia's biggest problem. Counter-Vandalism Unit, seriously, just... take a look at what they made up.
  • Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness: Played straight in some more technical articles and inverted in Simple English Wikipedia.
  • Small Reference Pools: One of the major underlying causes for conflict between Inclusionists and Deletionists, as well as systemic bias (see We All Live in America below and Serious Business above). If a Deletionist hasn't heard of something, it's obviously non-notable.
    • Wikipedia's insistence on using freely licensed/public domain material often results in this. For example, photographs of living people must be freely licensed or they get deleted. It also introduces some bias — screenshots of software will show it running on Linux, unless it's Windows-only. Media player screenshots are usually shown playing either Big Buck Bunny or Sintel (since they are Creative Commons-licensed). Web browsers are shown displaying Wikipedia (as mentioned under Medium Awareness). What is different about this example is that the editors are quite often aware that the material exists — they just aren't allowed to use it.
  • Someday This Will Come in Handy: Has been known to cause attempts to invoke this trope.
  • There Is No Such Thing as Notability: Utterly inverted — at least in principle, because enforcement varies.
  • Thread Mode: The bullet points version is averted hard in articles but played straight on talk pages and deletion process pages. The inline version, not so much.
  • Trope Codifier: The MediaWiki software developed for Wikipedia and the style conventions set there have set audience expectations for reference wikis.
  • Troll: Some people put either totally irrelevant things on the page (sometimes wiping the whole page in the process) or mess it up by doing the summary wrong.
  • We All Live in America: Many pages can turn into this, deciding that only information pertaining to America is useful. Especially jarring on pages meant for other countries entirely. Amusingly, there's a template specifically for flagging a page as being Americacentric (or Britaincentric, or other part of the world-centric). This can be applied to pages specifically written in reference to the country.
They have a phrase for this: Systemic bias. It's not a problem limited only to English Wikipedia articles on North America, Great Britain, and Australia. Any sufficiently developed country with widespread use of English will have a significantly larger group of contributors than its non-English speaking neighbors. Hong Kong, Singapore and India being notable examples
  • Weasel Words: They hate it when it shows up.
  • Wiki Magic: Sometimes played straight, sometimes inverted with an editor's pet page. Inversions of this have rapidly become a common criticism as Wikipedia's tendency to focus on cutting as much content as possible, instead of adding new content, has increased.
  • Wiki Vandal: Overt vandalization is reverted rapidly - but subtle vandalization has been known to last months on less-travelled pages. One of the common complaints about accuracy aimed at Wikipedia. Some really outrageous claims in articles are often supported by nothing but the "citation" tag.[citation needed]
  • Wiki Walk: See Archive Binge above.
  • Wikipedia Syntaxer: The original and trope namer.
  • Wikipedia Updater
  • Xenofiction: Well, except the "fiction" bit. The Human article reads as though it was written by alien scientists observing us. It even lists the conservation status according to the IUCN red list: "least concern".