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Magneto takes this concept a bit too literally...

Okay, so this is my pitch: All of the characters are on a ship that travels through space, a "space" ship, if you like. Exotic locations like Adventure Towns or the Planet of Hats are just a "hyperjump" away. It's kind of like a Wagon Train to the Stars.

The term comes verbatim from Gene Roddenberry's original pitch for Star Trek: The Original Series to NBC in the middle 1960s, and references the early Western show Wagon Train, which was about a wagon train making its way west. The original is now less well known than the "...to the stars" phrase, making it an example of the Weird Al Effect.

Note that these shows need not necessarily take place in outer space. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, for example, was essentially a Wagon Train to the Stars show, underwater. (so, recycled in the ocean?)

The ship is often enough, as in Wagon Train, a colonization/settlement effort that never quite gets to its destination, at least until the finale. If the ship has no fixed destination (Doctor Who, Firefly) then this overlaps with Walking the Earth, sharing most of the same tropes.

Compare Space Western, Space Opera.

Examples:

Star Trek and spinoffs (except Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, which was set on a space station)
- It's actually the name of a Star Trek book.
- Deep Space Nine was instead compared to another Western, The Rifleman.
Macross aka Robotech features this in a way when Macross City is rescued after a "space fold" accident and housed in the titular ship; the successor TV shows, Macross 7 and Macross Frontier take place on actual, literal stellar wagon trains (complete with collapsible roofs) intended to colonize planets.
Doctor Who
Red Dwarf
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica Classic, which took it further by having a small 'ragtag fleet' of ships under the Galactica's protection, forming a literal Wagon Train to the Stars (well, minus the wagons anyway).
Andromeda
Space: 1999
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Firefly/Serenity
Crusade
The second season of Buck Rogers in The 25th Century
Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito is a literal Wagon Train Through The Books.
Kingdom Hearts makes this a prominent (and very convenient) aspect of gameplay.
As does Super Mario Galaxy (though without the spaceship).
- Super Mario Galaxy 2 has a spaceship ("or should I say faceship?!")
Stargate SG-1 has often been this, especially in its first seasons. Technically, it doesn't take place on a spaceship, but there's not much practical difference between a base that stays inside a mountain and has a gate to a new world each week, and a ship that actually travels to a new world each week.
- SG:U, however, fits this perfectly.
Uchuu Senkan Yamato, especially the "Quest For Iscandar"
Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!, in later seasons.
Power Rangers Lost Galaxy. There is a colony ship which is traveling to another planet. Evil aliens keep attacking and damaging it, and some of the damage can't be repaired, so while they started off with 10 engines, by the end they have only one, then zero. But, they did eventually get to their destination.
SF Saiyuki Starzinger (dubbed as "Spaceketeers" in the US), a sci fi retelling of the classic Asian story Journey to the West (Saiyuki) does this as well (the dub however, changes the Saiyuki references to Three Musketeers references).
Mass Effect.
Robert A. Heinlein's Tunnel In The Sky has interstellar colonization by means of quite literal wagon trains, using artificial gateways to get to their destination planets. They're not the focus of the book, but twice we see wagon trains preparing to embark.
Star Wars has a evil version. the Yuuzhan Vong. They're from another galaxy, and had to travel millions of light-years at slower then light speed. They came in a HUGE fleet.
- So huge, in fact, that the novels created a Retcon stating that the primary reason the Empire constructed the Death Star and its other superweapons was to use them against the Yuuzhan Vong. The fact that they could be used to enforce their rule through fear and to fight the Rebellion was merely a bonus.
In Melanie Rawn's unfinished Exiles trilogy, colonists from Earth find a new home in another solar system. Rawn named their spaceship after the actual wagon one of her ancestors rode out West.
Galaxy Express 999. Bonus point for having the main characters travel in an ACTUAL space train.

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-Okay, so this is my pitch: All of the characters are on a ship that travels through space, a "space" ship, if you like. Exotic locations like [[Adventure Towns]] or the [[Planet of Hats]] are just a "[[Faster-Than-Light Travel|hyperjump]]" away. It's kind of like a [[Wagon Train to The Stars]].
+Okay, so this is my pitch: All of the characters are on a ship that travels through space, a "space" ship, if you like. Exotic locations like [[Adventure Towns]] or the [[Planet of Hats]] are just a "[[Faster-Than-Light Travel|hyperjump]]" away. It's kind of like a [[Wagon Train to the Stars]].
-The term comes verbatim from Gene Roddenberry's original pitch for ''[[Star Trek the Original Series]]'' to [[NBC]] in the middle 1960s, and references the early Western show ''[[Wagon Train]]'', which was [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|about a wagon train making its way west]]. The original is now less well known than the "...to the stars" phrase, making it an example of the [[Weird Al Effect]].
+The term comes verbatim from Gene Roddenberry's original pitch for ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series]]'' to [[NBC]] in the middle 1960s, and references the early Western show ''[[Wagon Train]]'', which was [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|about a wagon train making its way west]]. The original is now less well known than the "...to the stars" phrase, making it an example of the [[Weird Al Effect]].
-Note that these shows need not necessarily take place in outer space. ''[[Voyage to The Bottom of The Sea (TV)|Voyage to The Bottom of The Sea]]'', for example, was essentially a [[Wagon Train to The Stars]] show, underwater. (so, [[Recycled in Space|recycled in the ocean?)]]
+Note that these shows need not necessarily take place in outer space. ''[[Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea]]'', for example, was essentially a [[Wagon Train to the Stars]] show, underwater. (so, [[Recycled in Space|recycled in the ocean?)]]
-The ship is often enough, as in [[Wagon Train]], a colonization/settlement effort that [[Failure Is the Only Option|never quite gets to its destination]], at least until the finale. If the ship has no fixed destination (''[[Doctor Who]], [[Firefly (TV)|Firefly]]'') then this overlaps with [[Walking the Earth]], sharing most of the same tropes.
+The ship is often enough, as in [[Wagon Train]], a colonization/settlement effort that [[Failure Is the Only Option|never quite gets to its destination]], at least until the finale. If the ship has no fixed destination (''[[Doctor Who]], [[Firefly]]'') then this overlaps with [[Walking the Earth]], sharing most of the same tropes.
 Compare [[Space Western]], [[Space Opera]].
 {{examples|Examples: }}
-* ''[[Star Trek]]'' and spinoffs (except ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]'', which was set on a space station)
+* ''[[Star Trek]]'' and spinoffs (except ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'', which was set on a space station)
 ** It's actually the name of a Star Trek book.
 ** [[Deep Space Nine]] was instead compared to another Western, ''[[The Rifleman]]''.
 * ''[[Macross]]'' aka Robotech features this in a way when Macross City is rescued after a "[[Our Wormholes Are Different|space fold]]" accident and housed in the titular ship; the successor TV shows, [[Macross 7]] and [[Macross Frontier]] take place on actual, literal stellar wagon trains (complete with collapsible roofs) intended to colonize planets.
 * ''[[Doctor Who]]''
-* ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]]''
+* ''[[Red Dwarf]]''
-* ''[[Farscape (TV)|Farscape]]''
+* ''[[Farscape]]''
-* ''[[Battlestar Galactica Classic]]'', which took it further by having a small 'ragtag fleet' of ships under the ''Galactica'''s protection, forming a ''literal'' [[Wagon Train to The Stars]] (well, minus the wagons anyway).
+* ''[[Battlestar Galactica Classic]]'', which took it further by having a small 'ragtag fleet' of ships under the ''Galactica'''s protection, forming a ''literal'' [[Wagon Train to the Stars]] (well, minus the wagons anyway).
 * ''Andromeda''
 * ''[[Space: 1999]]''
-* ''[[Voyage to The Bottom of The Sea (TV)|Voyage to The Bottom of The Sea]]''
+* ''[[Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea]]''
-* ''[[Firefly (TV)|Firefly]]''/''[[Serenity (Film)|Serenity]]''
+* ''[[Firefly]]''/''[[Serenity]]''
 * ''[[Crusade]]''
 * The second season of ''[[Buck Rogers in The 25th Century]]''
-* ''[[Yami to Boushi To Hon no Tabibito]]'' is a literal Wagon Train Through The Books.
+* ''[[Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito]]'' is a literal Wagon Train Through The Books.
 * ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' makes this a prominent (and very convenient) aspect of gameplay.
-* As does [[Super Mario Galaxy (Video Game)|Super Mario Galaxy]] (though without the spaceship).
+* As does [[Super Mario Galaxy]] (though without the spaceship).
-** [[Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Video Game)|Super Mario Galaxy 2]] has a spaceship ("or should I say ''[[Incredibly Lame Pun|faceship]]''?!")
+** [[Super Mario Galaxy 2]] has a spaceship ("or should I say ''[[Incredibly Lame Pun|faceship]]''?!")
 * ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'' has often been this, especially in its first seasons. Technically, it doesn't take place on a spaceship, but there's not much practical difference between a base that stays inside a mountain and has a gate to a new world each week, and a ship that actually travels to a new world each week.
 ** SG:U, however, fits this perfectly.
 * [[Uchuu Senkan Yamato]], especially the "Quest For Iscandar"
-* ''[[Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go]]'', in later seasons.
+* ''[[Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!]]'', in later seasons.
 * ''[[Power Rangers Lost Galaxy]]''. There is a colony ship which is traveling to another planet. Evil aliens keep attacking and damaging it, and some of the damage can't be repaired, so while they started off with 10 engines, by the end they have only one, then zero. But, they did eventually get to their destination.
-* ''SF Saiyuki Starzinger'' (dubbed as "Spaceketeers" in the US), a sci fi retelling of the classic Asian story [[Journey to The West]] (Saiyuki) does this as well (the dub however, changes the Saiyuki references to [[The Three Musketeers (Literature)|Three Musketeers]] references).
+* ''SF Saiyuki Starzinger'' (dubbed as "Spaceketeers" in the US), a sci fi retelling of the classic Asian story [[Journey to the West]] (Saiyuki) does this as well (the dub however, changes the Saiyuki references to [[The Three Musketeers (novel)|Three Musketeers]] references).
 * ''[[Mass Effect]]''.
 * [[Robert A. Heinlein]]'s ''[[Tunnel In The Sky]]'' has interstellar colonization by means of quite literal wagon trains, using artificial gateways to get to their destination planets. They're not the focus of the book, but twice we see wagon trains preparing to embark.