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As one could probably tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, or even terrifying, on some level that they kind of clash with the tone of the show/game/whatever. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story he/she/it is in, this trope can overlap with [[Complete Monster]] and [[Knight of Cerebus]]. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the [[Cerebus Rollercoaster]].
As one could probably tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, or even terrifying, on some level that they kind of clash with the tone of the show/game/whatever. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story he/she/it is in, this trope can overlap with [[Complete Monster]] and [[Knight of Cerebus]]. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the [[Cerebus Rollercoaster]].


A major cause of [[Sugar Apocalypse]] and [[Surprise Creepy]]. Compare and contrast the [[Crap Saccharine World]], where it's not just the villain, but the ''entire world'' that is rotten to the core.
A major cause of [[Sugar Apocalypse]] and [[Surprise Creepy]]. Compare and contrast the [[Crap Saccharine World]], where it's not just the villain, but the ''entire world'' that is rotten to the core.


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** [[Manipulative Bastard|Skroa]] is a bird-like demonical sorcerer that used to be Darkhell's rival and frequently uses the protagonists as pawn for his plans. Is shown slaughtering a group of armed human beings of his own. Not to mention he once ''cut his own arm off'' as a part of his plan;
** [[Manipulative Bastard|Skroa]] is a bird-like demonical sorcerer that used to be Darkhell's rival and frequently uses the protagonists as pawn for his plans. Is shown slaughtering a group of armed human beings of his own. Not to mention he once ''cut his own arm off'' as a part of his plan;
** [[Bigger Bad|Anathos]] is basically this universe's version of Satan, being a [[Magnificent Bastard]] and [[Omnicidal Maniac]] [[God of Evil]] that actually succeeded in destroying the world long time ago and almost succeeded a second time. The fact he came back by [[Demonic Possession|reincarnating in one of the protagonists]] and [[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|litterally crushed the remaining heroes in their first fight]], leaving them scarred for life, makes it worst;
** [[Bigger Bad|Anathos]] is basically this universe's version of Satan, being a [[Magnificent Bastard]] and [[Omnicidal Maniac]] [[God of Evil]] that actually succeeded in destroying the world long time ago and almost succeeded a second time. The fact he came back by [[Demonic Possession|reincarnating in one of the protagonists]] and [[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|litterally crushed the remaining heroes in their first fight]], leaving them scarred for life, makes it worst;
** [[The Chessmaster|Abyss]]; O God... the character is introduced as [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|seemingly extremely nice person]] in his first appearance, [[The Reveal|only to be revealed later]] as a [[Complete Monster]] [[Yandere]] [[Incest Subtext|who seems to have a thing for his foster sister]], to the point of forcing her to joing his side by [[Brainwashed and Crazy|brainwashing her]] through [[Puppeteer Parasite]].
** [[The Chessmaster|Abyss]]; O God... the character is introduced as [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|seemingly extremely nice person]] in his first appearance, [[The Reveal|only to be revealed later]] as a [[Complete Monster]] [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] [[Incest Subtext|who seems to have a thing for his foster sister]], to the point of forcing her to joing his side by [[Brainwashed and Crazy|brainwashing her]] through [[Puppeteer Parasite]].




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** A lesser known example is the Coachman from ''[[Pinocchio (Disney film)|Pinocchio]]'', who runs an [[Amusement Park of Doom|amusement park that magically turns young boys who use the attractions into donkeys]]. The ones that lose their voices are then sold to salt mines and circuses, and the ones who ''can'' still talk... well, they're put in cages, and we don't know what happens to them after that. It seems that none of them are ever human or see their homes again, though. [[Karma Houdini|And he gets away with it, too!]] Which is unique, considering [[The Good Guys Always Win|just about every other villain falls to the hero.]]
** A lesser known example is the Coachman from ''[[Pinocchio (Disney film)|Pinocchio]]'', who runs an [[Amusement Park of Doom|amusement park that magically turns young boys who use the attractions into donkeys]]. The ones that lose their voices are then sold to salt mines and circuses, and the ones who ''can'' still talk... well, they're put in cages, and we don't know what happens to them after that. It seems that none of them are ever human or see their homes again, though. [[Karma Houdini|And he gets away with it, too!]] Which is unique, considering [[The Good Guys Always Win|just about every other villain falls to the hero.]]
*** This may be because of his choice of targets: Bad boys who should be at school, making him some [[Karmic Transformation|karmic]] bogeyman.
*** This may be because of his choice of targets: Bad boys who should be at school, making him some [[Karmic Transformation|karmic]] bogeyman.
*** Though the Coachman is [[Big Bad|far worse]], Stromboli is pretty bad too.
*** Though the Coachman is [[Big Bad|far worse]], Stromboli is pretty bad too.
** ''[[Oliver and Company]]'' is a very lighthearted movie, featuring talking cats and dogs. Its villain, Sykes, is a [[Loan Shark]] who is played utterly straight. There's nothing [[Evil Is Cool|cool]], [[Laughably Evil|funny]], [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|sympathetic]], or even [[Large Ham|hammy]] about him. He's just a cold-blooded thug who wants his money ''now'' and doesn't care what he has to do to get it.
** ''[[Oliver and Company]]'' is a very lighthearted movie, featuring talking cats and dogs. Its villain, Sykes, is a [[Loan Shark]] who is played utterly straight. There's nothing [[Evil Is Cool|cool]], [[Laughably Evil|funny]], [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|sympathetic]], or even [[Large Ham|hammy]] about him. He's just a cold-blooded thug who wants his money ''now'' and doesn't care what he has to do to get it.
** Though not as frightening as Frollo or Maleficent, Jafar in ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'' has shades of this. Because the movie was an action-packed zany comedy, animator Andreas Deja decided to keep Jafar very subtle in contrast. (He also contrasts the art style. Nearly everything else in Agrabah has soft, rounded lines, while Jafar has several sharp angles.)
** Though not as frightening as Frollo or Maleficent, Jafar in ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'' has shades of this. Because the movie was an action-packed zany comedy, animator Andreas Deja decided to keep Jafar very subtle in contrast. (He also contrasts the art style. Nearly everything else in Agrabah has soft, rounded lines, while Jafar has several sharp angles.)
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== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==
* Even though ''[[Seinfeld]]'' is not exactly a cheerful show (it's actually quite cynical), Joey "[[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Crazy Joe]]" Devola still adds a surprising dash of darkness to it. If Elaine continued dating him past the episode "The Opera", he probably would have been a full-fledged [[Token Evil Teammate]].
* Even though ''[[Seinfeld]]'' is not exactly a cheerful show (it's actually quite cynical), Joey "[[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Crazy Joe]]" Devola still adds a surprising dash of darkness to it. If Elaine continued dating him past the episode "The Opera", he probably would have been a full-fledged [[Token Evil Teammate]].
* An in-universe example appears on ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' with the [[Show Within a Show]] ''The Adventures of Flodder'', a series of fantasy holonovels for children. One of the titular adventures involves a character called the Ogre of Fire, who shows-up, ''vaporizes the main character in front of the child's eyes,'' and then torches the setting to the ground.
* An in-universe example appears on ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'' with the [[Show Within a Show]] ''The Adventures of Flodder'', a series of fantasy holonovels for children. One of the titular adventures involves a character called the Ogre of Fire, who shows-up, ''vaporizes the main character in front of the child's eyes,'' and then torches the setting to the ground.
* Yogoshimacritein in ''[[Engine Sentai Go-onger]]''. Not only is he more evil than his son, but he's also a ''very'' [[Bad Boss]], {{spoiler|killing off his two minions once they double-cross him to help the Go-Ongers}}. He also has access to a device that ''deletes'' people from existence.
* Yogoshimacritein in ''[[Engine Sentai Go-onger]]''. Not only is he more evil than his son, but he's also a ''very'' [[Bad Boss]], {{spoiler|killing off his two minions once they double-cross him to help the Go-Ongers}}. He also has access to a device that ''deletes'' people from existence.
* ''[[Kamen Rider Fourze]]''--a High School version Kamen Rider penned by the same guy who made Gurren Lagann--seems cheerful, right? Wrong. The monsters, known as Zodiarts, are actually fellow students--many of them having lots of psychological issues--alongside the teachers who actively are giving them the means to become evil.
* ''[[Kamen Rider Fourze]]''--a High School version Kamen Rider penned by the same guy who made Gurren Lagann--seems cheerful, right? Wrong. The monsters, known as Zodiarts, are actually fellow students--many of them having lots of psychological issues--alongside the teachers who actively are giving them the means to become evil.
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* All the ''Mario'' villains appearing in the RPGs. You've got the [[Omnicidal Maniac]] of Dimentio in ''[[Super Paper Mario]]'', the super-creepy Cackletta in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', the weapons crazed Smithy in ''[[Super Mario RPG]]'', the force of evil that's Dark Star in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'', the demonic Shadow Queen in ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', the [[Alien Invasion|invading]] Shroobs in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time]]''... That's a fair amount of disturbing villains in the otherwise quite light-hearted series.
* All the ''Mario'' villains appearing in the RPGs. You've got the [[Omnicidal Maniac]] of Dimentio in ''[[Super Paper Mario]]'', the super-creepy Cackletta in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', the weapons crazed Smithy in ''[[Super Mario RPG]]'', the force of evil that's Dark Star in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'', the demonic Shadow Queen in ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', the [[Alien Invasion|invading]] Shroobs in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time]]''... That's a fair amount of disturbing villains in the otherwise quite light-hearted series.
** Smithy in particular set the standards as the villain of the first Mario RPG. After traversing the Mushroom Kingdom which as to be expected is bright, colorful and full of wacky and strange enemies...you find the portal to Smithy's realm and find it a dark, gloomy, mist-covered factory full of machines and ghosts.
** Smithy in particular set the standards as the villain of the first Mario RPG. After traversing the Mushroom Kingdom which as to be expected is bright, colorful and full of wacky and strange enemies...you find the portal to Smithy's realm and find it a dark, gloomy, mist-covered factory full of machines and ghosts.
** Hell, [[Arch Enemy]] Bowser sometimes counts [[Beware the Silly Ones|underneath all the]] [[Large Ham|ham]]. He is ''Great Demon King Koopa'' after all, and can cause major damage when he's actually trying. He tries on [[Reset Button|two separate occasions]] to remake the universe in his own image, which is exactly what Dimentio wanted to do, but old Bowser did it by stealing from [[God]] with nothing but his [[Cool Airship|Airship fleet]] and [[Badass Army|his army]]. Dry Bowser is him resurrected as [[Dem Bones|a huge demonic skeleton]]. And of course, there's [[Super Smash Bros|Giga Bowser....]]
** Hell, [[Arch Enemy]] Bowser sometimes counts [[Beware the Silly Ones|underneath all the]] [[Large Ham|ham]]. He is ''Great Demon King Koopa'' after all, and can cause major damage when he's actually trying. He tries on [[Reset Button|two separate occasions]] to remake the universe in his own image, which is exactly what Dimentio wanted to do, but old Bowser did it by stealing from [[God]] with nothing but his [[Cool Airship|Airship fleet]] and [[Badass Army|his army]]. Dry Bowser is him resurrected as [[Dem Bones|a huge demonic skeleton]]. And of course, there's [[Super Smash Bros.|Giga Bowser....]]
* ''[[Cave Story]]'' is a pretty cheery-looking game with [[Ridiculously Cute Critter|Ridiculously Cute Critters]], a [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] with a memorable [[Catch Phrase]] and a main character who's pretty much [[Badass Adorable]] incarnate. And you're facing a [[Mad Scientist]] who is [[Complete Monster|irredeemably evil]].
* ''[[Cave Story]]'' is a pretty cheery-looking game with [[Ridiculously Cute Critter|Ridiculously Cute Critters]], a [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] with a memorable [[Catch Phrase]] and a main character who's pretty much [[Badass Adorable]] incarnate. And you're facing a [[Mad Scientist]] who is [[Complete Monster|irredeemably evil]].
** It gets even creepier when you enter the [[Brutal Bonus Level]]. {{spoiler|Ballos is not only creepy, but his story is really depressing. He destroys the kingdom because he went insane from torture.}}
** It gets even creepier when you enter the [[Brutal Bonus Level]]. {{spoiler|Ballos is not only creepy, but his story is really depressing. He destroys the kingdom because he went insane from torture.}}
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** Not to say the main games aren't proofed against this trope, either. On one hand, you have [[Ridiculously Cute Critter|Ridiculously Cute Critters]] in beautiful grassy fields. On the other, [[Jerkass]] [[The Rival|rivals]], [[The Mafia|mafia goons]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|emotionally repressed (and hateful of living spirit in general) Cyrus]], [[Pokémon Ranger|extremely misanthropic Purple Eyes]], [[Pokémon Black and White|notorious childbreaker Ghetsis]], and [[Pokémon Colosseum|the cabinet of mindrapist abominations known as Cipher]].
** Not to say the main games aren't proofed against this trope, either. On one hand, you have [[Ridiculously Cute Critter|Ridiculously Cute Critters]] in beautiful grassy fields. On the other, [[Jerkass]] [[The Rival|rivals]], [[The Mafia|mafia goons]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|emotionally repressed (and hateful of living spirit in general) Cyrus]], [[Pokémon Ranger|extremely misanthropic Purple Eyes]], [[Pokémon Black and White|notorious childbreaker Ghetsis]], and [[Pokémon Colosseum|the cabinet of mindrapist abominations known as Cipher]].
* The ''[[Spyro the Dragon]]'' series takes place in a dreamlike environment with mostly cute characters...but occasionally has genuinely creepy enemies. The Dark Passage level from the first game is rife with these as is Haunted Towers. The Metropolis level from Spyro 2 is a rather jarring break in an otherwise cutesy game, with its psychotic cows in space suits who stare angrily and shoot you, as well as exploding pigs who come flying at you out of nowhere (and they will always hit you unless you kill them first). The robotic sharks in water levels are horrifying, especially when you try to go in there without a submarine (you are killed instantly). And also there are levels where plants can eat you. There are quite a few bosses who are pretty unnerving as well.
* The ''[[Spyro the Dragon]]'' series takes place in a dreamlike environment with mostly cute characters...but occasionally has genuinely creepy enemies. The Dark Passage level from the first game is rife with these as is Haunted Towers. The Metropolis level from Spyro 2 is a rather jarring break in an otherwise cutesy game, with its psychotic cows in space suits who stare angrily and shoot you, as well as exploding pigs who come flying at you out of nowhere (and they will always hit you unless you kill them first). The robotic sharks in water levels are horrifying, especially when you try to go in there without a submarine (you are killed instantly). And also there are levels where plants can eat you. There are quite a few bosses who are pretty unnerving as well.
** The Sorceress in 3, who steals all the baby dragon eggs because {{spoiler|she wants to kill them and use their wings for an immortality spell. Yikes! No wonder her Dragon did a [[Heel Face Turn]] after she found out!}} Scorch, the 3rd boss, is pretty damn creepy as well, being solely created for the purpose of ''brutally murdering the heroes''.
** The Sorceress in 3, who steals all the baby dragon eggs because {{spoiler|she wants to kill them and use their wings for an immortality spell. Yikes! No wonder her Dragon did a [[Heel Face Turn]] after she found out!}} Scorch, the 3rd boss, is pretty damn creepy as well, being solely created for the purpose of ''brutally murdering the heroes''.
** Granted the manner the Sorceress reveals her evil plan [[Laughably Evil|fails to]] [[Chewing the Scenery|be that]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|terrifying at all...]]
** Granted the manner the Sorceress reveals her evil plan [[Laughably Evil|fails to]] [[Chewing the Scenery|be that]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|terrifying at all...]]
{{quote|'''The Sorceress:''' What did you think I was going to do with all those eggs? Put them in a zoo?
{{quote|'''The Sorceress:''' What did you think I was going to do with all those eggs? Put them in a zoo?
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* Much of the time, ''[[Suburban Knights]]'' has the same tone as the rest of the [[That Guy With The Glasses]] site; definitely not for children and sometimes resorting to [[Refuge in Audacity]], but still comical and not taking danger very seriously. However, this doesn't hold true when Malachite - an apparent complete sociopath who murders multiple innocent people just for using technology - is on screen. While most of the site's villains are [[Played for Laughs|Played For]] [[Black Comedy|Dark Comedy]], Malachite is almost always [[Played for Drama]].
* Much of the time, ''[[Suburban Knights]]'' has the same tone as the rest of the [[That Guy With The Glasses]] site; definitely not for children and sometimes resorting to [[Refuge in Audacity]], but still comical and not taking danger very seriously. However, this doesn't hold true when Malachite - an apparent complete sociopath who murders multiple innocent people just for using technology - is on screen. While most of the site's villains are [[Played for Laughs|Played For]] [[Black Comedy|Dark Comedy]], Malachite is almost always [[Played for Drama]].
** Another unusually serious villain for the site is The Entity from [[Atop the Fourth Wall]]. This may be because it's an [[Eldritch Abomination]] that tries to destroy the universe.
** Another unusually serious villain for the site is The Entity from [[Atop the Fourth Wall]]. This may be because it's an [[Eldritch Abomination]] that tries to destroy the universe.
* [[Reflets D Acide]], is a fantasy [[Affectionate Parody]] with comical characters, but antagonists [[Our Demons Are Different|Belial]] and [[Our Dragons Are Different|Alia-Aenor]], while both having comical moments, are actually threatening villains, with Belial possessing a [[Complete Monster]] status and Alia-Aenor being a [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]].
* [[Reflets D Acide]], is a fantasy [[Affectionate Parody]] with comical characters, but antagonists [[Our Demons Are Different|Belial]] and [[Our Dragons Are Different|Alia-Aenor]], while both having comical moments, are actually threatening villains, with Belial possessing a [[Complete Monster]] status and Alia-Aenor being a [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]].




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** Prior to ''New Adventures'' the inclusion of ''any villains period'' [[White and Grey Morality|was completely new to the franchise, which usually]] [[No Antagonist|didn't have any antagonists]] (par maybe Rabbit, [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|which still isn't saying much]]). For example this was the first depiction to show [[Real After All|real Heffalumps and Woozles]]. Granted they were all comical and almost as hapless as Pooh himself, but were still a big change from the usually laid back stories of A A Milne's creation.
** Prior to ''New Adventures'' the inclusion of ''any villains period'' [[White and Grey Morality|was completely new to the franchise, which usually]] [[No Antagonist|didn't have any antagonists]] (par maybe Rabbit, [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|which still isn't saying much]]). For example this was the first depiction to show [[Real After All|real Heffalumps and Woozles]]. Granted they were all comical and almost as hapless as Pooh himself, but were still a big change from the usually laid back stories of A A Milne's creation.
* ''[[My Little Pony]]'' has such characters as Tirek (a demon centaur who wanted to turn the ponies into an army of demonic dragons with his "Rainbow of Darkness"), Katrina (a catwoman sorceress who plotted to enslave the ponies into gathering ingredients for her [[Fantastic Drug]] of choice, "witchweed potion"), Squirk (a tyrannical sea monster who wanted to reclaim part of his undersea kingdom by flooding Dream Valley), and The Smooze (an all-consuming blob monster unleashed by a [[Card-Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villainess]] and her bumbling daughters). The G1 continuity has a ''lot'' of villains who came close to enacting a [[Sugar Apocalypse]].
* ''[[My Little Pony]]'' has such characters as Tirek (a demon centaur who wanted to turn the ponies into an army of demonic dragons with his "Rainbow of Darkness"), Katrina (a catwoman sorceress who plotted to enslave the ponies into gathering ingredients for her [[Fantastic Drug]] of choice, "witchweed potion"), Squirk (a tyrannical sea monster who wanted to reclaim part of his undersea kingdom by flooding Dream Valley), and The Smooze (an all-consuming blob monster unleashed by a [[Card-Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villainess]] and her bumbling daughters). The G1 continuity has a ''lot'' of villains who came close to enacting a [[Sugar Apocalypse]].
** Crunch the Rock Dog, a huge dog made out of stone that hates all things soft, and has the power to turn anything he touches to stone, and turn normal rocks into sharp-toothed monsters to stalk his prey. The way he and his rock minions chased after the Bushwoolies, turning them to stone one by one, seems right out of a horror movie.
** Crunch the Rock Dog, a huge dog made out of stone that hates all things soft, and has the power to turn anything he touches to stone, and turn normal rocks into sharp-toothed monsters to stalk his prey. The way he and his rock minions chased after the Bushwoolies, turning them to stone one by one, seems right out of a horror movie.
** While most villains in the series [[Heel Face Turn|turned good]] or simply [[Villain Exit Stage Left|fled when defeated]], two of them (the aforementioned Tirek and the magma-creature Lavan) were so evil and powerfull that the heroes actually had to ''kill'' them. This is notable not only because a series based on something as innocent as the ''My Little Pony'' toys would probably be the last place anyone would expect to see someone die, but also because characters being killed of was something very rare to see in ''any'' TV cartoon in the 1980's.
** While most villains in the series [[Heel Face Turn|turned good]] or simply [[Villain Exit Stage Left|fled when defeated]], two of them (the aforementioned Tirek and the magma-creature Lavan) were so evil and powerfull that the heroes actually had to ''kill'' them. This is notable not only because a series based on something as innocent as the ''My Little Pony'' toys would probably be the last place anyone would expect to see someone die, but also because characters being killed of was something very rare to see in ''any'' TV cartoon in the 1980's.
* The G4 series, ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', has Nightmare Moon, sister of [[Big Good|Princess Celestia]] who, in a [[Green-Eyed Monster|fit of envy]], plotted to bring about [[The Night That Never Ends]] (which according to [[Word of God|Word Of]] [[Lauren Faust|Faust]] would have killed all life in Equestria).
* The G4 series, ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', has Nightmare Moon, sister of [[Big Good|Princess Celestia]] who, in a [[Green-Eyed Monster|fit of envy]], plotted to bring about [[The Night That Never Ends]] (which according to [[Word of God|Word Of]] [[Lauren Faust|Faust]] would have killed all life in Equestria).
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* ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' is a show that invokes [[Rousseau Was Right]] and usually has a [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]], which makes the presence of the unnamed [[Drill Sergeant Nasty]] in "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" all the more surprising. He spends the entire episode coldly and sadistically pounding out any creativity and happiness from the duo. He even {{spoiler|DIES in the end.}} He's also {{spoiler|[[All Just a Dream|a literal nightmare]]}}, so the show can get away with this.
* ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' is a show that invokes [[Rousseau Was Right]] and usually has a [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]], which makes the presence of the unnamed [[Drill Sergeant Nasty]] in "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" all the more surprising. He spends the entire episode coldly and sadistically pounding out any creativity and happiness from the duo. He even {{spoiler|DIES in the end.}} He's also {{spoiler|[[All Just a Dream|a literal nightmare]]}}, so the show can get away with this.
* ''[[Cracked.com]]'' presents: [http://www.cracked.com/article_17129_7-badass-cartoon-villains-who-lost-retarded-heroes.html 7 Badass Cartoon Villains Who Lost to Retarded Heroes].
* ''[[Cracked.com]]'' presents: [http://www.cracked.com/article_17129_7-badass-cartoon-villains-who-lost-retarded-heroes.html 7 Badass Cartoon Villains Who Lost to Retarded Heroes].
* ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' sometimes has this trope. The show itself is usually lighthearted, and most of the one-shot villains are comical (with a couple of notable exceptions)- but lets take a look at some of the [[Big Bad|Big Bads]]. [[Magnificent Bastard|Slade]] is a creepily emotionless diabolical mastermind who pretty much runs on blackmail, [[Mind Rape]], [[Hannibal Lecture|Hannibal Lectures]] and [[Foe Yay]], and delivers [[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|No Holds Barred Beatdowns]] to several characters in surprisingly vivid fashion. Then there's Trigon, who's basically [[Satan]] and wants to use the show's main [[The Woobie|Woobie]], who's also his daughter, to bring about [[The End of the World as We Know It]]- and he actually ''succeeds'' in causing [[Hell on Earth]] for two episodes. Fun times.
* ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' sometimes has this trope. The show itself is usually lighthearted, and most of the one-shot villains are comical (with a couple of notable exceptions)- but lets take a look at some of the [[Big Bad|Big Bads]]. [[Magnificent Bastard|Slade]] is a creepily emotionless diabolical mastermind who pretty much runs on blackmail, [[Mind Rape]], [[Hannibal Lecture|Hannibal Lectures]] and [[Foe Yay]], and delivers [[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|No Holds Barred Beatdowns]] to several characters in surprisingly vivid fashion. Then there's Trigon, who's basically [[Satan]] and wants to use the show's main [[The Woobie|Woobie]], who's also his daughter, to bring about [[The End of the World as We Know It]]- and he actually ''succeeds'' in causing [[Hell on Earth]] for two episodes. Fun times.
** Both villains (as well as Brother Blood) were toned down ''a lot'' for the cartoon. For much of the '80s, the ''Teen Titans'' was one of DC's darkest books. The fact that they were able to make it a kids' show is a feat for the ages.
** Both villains (as well as Brother Blood) were toned down ''a lot'' for the cartoon. For much of the '80s, the ''Teen Titans'' was one of DC's darkest books. The fact that they were able to make it a kids' show is a feat for the ages.
* ''[[Adventure Time]]'' is more of a [[Crap Saccharine World]] than a saccharine one (though the characters inside don't seem to care), but most monsters encountered are easily defeated and the common recurring enemy is an [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|Ineffectually Sympathetic]] [[Jerkass Woobie]], making [[Your Soul Is Mine|Marceline's]] [[Humanoid Abomination|dad]] and [[Walking Wasteland|The]] [[Omnicidal Maniac|Lich]] still terrifying regardless of all the other nasty things lurking about.
* ''[[Adventure Time]]'' is more of a [[Crap Saccharine World]] than a saccharine one (though the characters inside don't seem to care), but most monsters encountered are easily defeated and the common recurring enemy is an [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|Ineffectually Sympathetic]] [[Jerkass Woobie]], making [[Your Soul Is Mine|Marceline's]] [[Humanoid Abomination|dad]] and [[Walking Wasteland|The]] [[Omnicidal Maniac|Lich]] still terrifying regardless of all the other nasty things lurking about.
* The ''[[Transformers Animated]]'' version of [[Big Bad|Megatron]], given the show's colorful and cartoonish nature.
* The ''[[Transformers Animated]]'' version of [[Big Bad|Megatron]], given the show's colorful and cartoonish nature.

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Fig. 1: Game. Fig. 2: Final boss.
Shan Yu, one of the most badass Disney villains ever. That dude was a monster. In fact I kinda felt like he was out of place in the movie because Mulan is overall is kind of a silly movie. And then you have this big grim beast of a man just fuck'n shit up.
—the1janitor, Top 10 Most Brutal Disney Villain Deaths!

Okay, so you have a villain, who is legitimately intimidating and frightening. Maybe he tries to destroy all positive emotions, or maybe he turns people into twisted shambling abominations, or maybe he's plotting genocide. Point is, he's actually a fairly creepy villain. The irony is that he's stuck in a Sugar Bowl.

As one could probably tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, or even terrifying, on some level that they kind of clash with the tone of the show/game/whatever. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story he/she/it is in, this trope can overlap with Complete Monster and Knight of Cerebus. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the Cerebus Rollercoaster.

A major cause of Sugar Apocalypse and Surprise Creepy. Compare and contrast the Crap Saccharine World, where it's not just the villain, but the entire world that is rotten to the core.

Examples of Vile Villain, Saccharine Show include:


Anime & Manga

  • Mon Colle Knights is cheerful and wacky and the enemies usually are the Terrible Trio. When they're not, there's Reda, with his bloodstained wings and a fondness for driving people to suicide and subjecting things to splooshy transformations. The english Gag Dub toned him down and edited some scenes.
  • The usually light-hearted Pokémon anime (which normally has a goofy and incompetent Terrible Trio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists) has:
  • The Bigger Bads in Pretty Cure franchise are usually like this. One of them is an entity that existed before everything and wants to plunge everything into nothingness, another is a life-hating Eldritch Abomination that turns every planet he visits into sand dunes, yet another is a monster born out of humanity's collective negative emotions, etc etc... Mind you, this is a series that is (supposedly) for little girls in elementary schoolyears.


Comics


Films -- Animation

Literature

  • Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, by Roald Dahl, has the sudden intrusion of a Horde of Alien Locusts into an outer space sequence that until then is mostly whimsical.
  • Redwall; it seems like a happy fluffy world full of cuddly talking animals. Then you meet the villains, who get their own Complete Monster page.
  • Tove Jansson's The Moomins take place in Moominvalley which is, at least at a very quick glance, somewhat of a saccharine world in the early novels and some of the adaptations. Then we are introduced to the Groke who, especially in her earliest appearances, is truly horrifying.


Live Action TV

  • Even though Seinfeld is not exactly a cheerful show (it's actually quite cynical), Joey "Crazy Joe" Devola still adds a surprising dash of darkness to it. If Elaine continued dating him past the episode "The Opera", he probably would have been a full-fledged Token Evil Teammate.
  • An in-universe example appears on Star Trek: Voyager with the Show Within a Show The Adventures of Flodder, a series of fantasy holonovels for children. One of the titular adventures involves a character called the Ogre of Fire, who shows-up, vaporizes the main character in front of the child's eyes, and then torches the setting to the ground.
  • Yogoshimacritein in Engine Sentai Go-onger. Not only is he more evil than his son, but he's also a very Bad Boss, killing off his two minions once they double-cross him to help the Go-Ongers. He also has access to a device that deletes people from existence.
  • Kamen Rider Fourze--a High School version Kamen Rider penned by the same guy who made Gurren Lagann--seems cheerful, right? Wrong. The monsters, known as Zodiarts, are actually fellow students--many of them having lots of psychological issues--alongside the teachers who actively are giving them the means to become evil.


Theatre

  • Arsenic and Old Lace is mostly a lighthearted "comedy of murders", but more or less treats the character Jonathan Brewster as a completely serious and frightening villain. He's indicated to be a prolific murderer with a love of torture, and it's clear that he's been this way since he was a child, since his hobby then was torturing his brother by putting needles under his finger nails.


Video Games

  • The Kirby series is set in a Sugar Bowl. The main villain, Dark Matter, is an Eldritch Abomination who appears in a multitude of disturbing forms. These include Zero from Kirby's Dream Land 3, the boss of Dark Matter who cuts its own iris and bleeds as an attack, and later it rips its own iris out. It is reincarnated as 02 (pictured) in Kirby 64, a creepy angel thing with a blood-dripping eye.
    • Another is Marx, first appearing to be cute jester-like creature balancing on a ball, he manipulates the Sun and Moon to fight and sends Kirby to stop them as part of a plan to wish for ultimate power. He is killed but his grotesque soul appears as a Bonus Boss.
    • Kirby Mass Attack has Necrodus, the monster that split Kirby into ten pieces, and the Skull Gang, his minions.
    • It's been pointed out that very disturbing final enemies make a great deal of sense in Kirby: he lives in Dream Land. What would be the villain of Dream Land other than something out of a nightmare? One of them is even called "Nightmare".
  • Earthbound combines this with Mood Whiplash, in the final fight, in what had started as a funny and lighthearted game, with Giygas, a horrible Eldrich Abomination with more than a few similarities to Azathoth that you cannot defeat in the normal manner and whose attacks are so powerful your mind cannot comprehend them, but the fourth wall doesn't protect him from you
    • In Mother 3, there's Porky Minch, who corrupted an entire village's way of life, hideously warped innocent animals into his Chimeras (which by the way were responsible for the death of Flint's wife and Lucas' mom) and killing Lucas' brother and brainwashing him into his puppet. All of that was done so that he could destroy the world BECAUSE HE WAS BORED!
  • Real Overlord Zenon in Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories even has her own ominous leitmotif. She's made even more horrifying in the infamous worst ending, where she body-hops to Adell and devours his little brother and sister off-screen.
  • NiGHTS Into Dreams has a relatively cutesy and bright-colored aesthetic to it (much like Kirby, but to a lesser extent), but the bosses, in addition to being (arguably) the most difficult parts of the game are Eldritch Abominations. that look like something out of a Tim Burton movie.
  • All the Mario villains appearing in the RPGs. You've got the Omnicidal Maniac of Dimentio in Super Paper Mario, the super-creepy Cackletta in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, the weapons crazed Smithy in Super Mario RPG, the force of evil that's Dark Star in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, the demonic Shadow Queen in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, the invading Shroobs in Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time... That's a fair amount of disturbing villains in the otherwise quite light-hearted series.
    • Smithy in particular set the standards as the villain of the first Mario RPG. After traversing the Mushroom Kingdom which as to be expected is bright, colorful and full of wacky and strange enemies...you find the portal to Smithy's realm and find it a dark, gloomy, mist-covered factory full of machines and ghosts.
    • Hell, Arch Enemy Bowser sometimes counts underneath all the ham. He is Great Demon King Koopa after all, and can cause major damage when he's actually trying. He tries on two separate occasions to remake the universe in his own image, which is exactly what Dimentio wanted to do, but old Bowser did it by stealing from God with nothing but his Airship fleet and his army. Dry Bowser is him resurrected as a huge demonic skeleton. And of course, there's Giga Bowser....
  • Cave Story is a pretty cheery-looking game with Ridiculously Cute Critters, a Quirky Miniboss Squad with a memorable Catch Phrase and a main character who's pretty much Badass Adorable incarnate. And you're facing a Mad Scientist who is irredeemably evil.
    • It gets even creepier when you enter the Brutal Bonus Level. Ballos is not only creepy, but his story is really depressing. He destroys the kingdom because he went insane from torture.
  • Darkrai, the main villain of the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series games. Prior to the second game's events, he steals artifacts responsible for the balance of the universe as an attempt to destroy both space and time and in the process, he makes one of the gods evil and crazy, then he wipes the hero(ine)'s memory clean and turns him/her into a Pokémon. Later, when this doesn't work, he decides that the easiest way to get rid of his aforementioned archnemesis is to make him/her commit suicide!
  • The Spyro the Dragon series takes place in a dreamlike environment with mostly cute characters...but occasionally has genuinely creepy enemies. The Dark Passage level from the first game is rife with these as is Haunted Towers. The Metropolis level from Spyro 2 is a rather jarring break in an otherwise cutesy game, with its psychotic cows in space suits who stare angrily and shoot you, as well as exploding pigs who come flying at you out of nowhere (and they will always hit you unless you kill them first). The robotic sharks in water levels are horrifying, especially when you try to go in there without a submarine (you are killed instantly). And also there are levels where plants can eat you. There are quite a few bosses who are pretty unnerving as well.
    • The Sorceress in 3, who steals all the baby dragon eggs because she wants to kill them and use their wings for an immortality spell. Yikes! No wonder her Dragon did a Heel Face Turn after she found out! Scorch, the 3rd boss, is pretty damn creepy as well, being solely created for the purpose of brutally murdering the heroes.
    • Granted the manner the Sorceress reveals her evil plan fails to be that terrifying at all...

The Sorceress: What did you think I was going to do with all those eggs? Put them in a zoo?

  • Mook in the background giggles quietly*
  • Wario Land 3 has enemies and bosses typical of the series... and then there's Rudy the Clown, who turns this Up to Eleven via Interface Screw and sudden subversion of a core game mechanic. Not only is he a powerful demon (blood-red teeth and Evil Laugh not shown) who becomes even more disturbing when he Turns Red, but he's the only thing in the game that can actually kill Wario, and the game auto-saves if he does. Fortunately, all this does is let you skip the cutscene before the fight next time, and most consider him an Anticlimax Boss once you know how to dodge his lethal attack.


Web Comics


Web Original


Western Animation

  • Care Bears, of all franchises, tends to have this in spades, what with Professor Coldheart, the Spirit in the Book, Dark Heart, No-Heart and others all dedicated to the removal of any ability to feel emotion.
  • The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh episode Cleanliness Is Next To Impossible where a creature named Crud (voiced by Jim Cummings using his Robotnik voice from the Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM show) imprisons Pooh, Piglet, and Tigger and then tries to force Christopher Robin to help him make the rest of the world dirty by saying "If you don't, YOU'LL NEVER SEE YOUR FRIENDS AGAIN!". Granted, by normal standards this hammy cartoon blob is not much worse or creepier than most Disney Afternoon villains, but he's much more so then you'd expect from one of Disney's lightest and softest universes.
  • My Little Pony has such characters as Tirek (a demon centaur who wanted to turn the ponies into an army of demonic dragons with his "Rainbow of Darkness"), Katrina (a catwoman sorceress who plotted to enslave the ponies into gathering ingredients for her Fantastic Drug of choice, "witchweed potion"), Squirk (a tyrannical sea monster who wanted to reclaim part of his undersea kingdom by flooding Dream Valley), and The Smooze (an all-consuming blob monster unleashed by a Card Carrying Villainess and her bumbling daughters). The G1 continuity has a lot of villains who came close to enacting a Sugar Apocalypse.
    • Crunch the Rock Dog, a huge dog made out of stone that hates all things soft, and has the power to turn anything he touches to stone, and turn normal rocks into sharp-toothed monsters to stalk his prey. The way he and his rock minions chased after the Bushwoolies, turning them to stone one by one, seems right out of a horror movie.
    • While most villains in the series turned good or simply fled when defeated, two of them (the aforementioned Tirek and the magma-creature Lavan) were so evil and powerfull that the heroes actually had to kill them. This is notable not only because a series based on something as innocent as the My Little Pony toys would probably be the last place anyone would expect to see someone die, but also because characters being killed of was something very rare to see in any TV cartoon in the 1980's.
  • The G4 series, My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic, has Nightmare Moon, sister of Princess Celestia who, in a fit of envy, plotted to bring about The Night That Never Ends (which according to Word Of Faust would have killed all life in Equestria).
  • The Powerpuff Girls
    • Him, one of the scariest (and daring) villains on a Cartoon Network comedy ever, even turned Townsville into a living hell on earth when the girls accidentally traveled forward in time.
    • A soundalike bear from The Teletubbies must be also vile out of universe.
    • At least Him has comedic traits. Dick Hardley, however? Dear GOD.
  • Father from Codename: Kids Next Door. A shadowy figure with control over fire, who brainwashed five children into thinking they were his/being evil? Add that to the fact that he is always beaten by the skin of everyone else's teeth and you've got a very threatening villain for such a harmless show.
    • And then once Father went through massive Villain Decay, The Movie gave us Grandfather, Father's father (and Numbuh), who possesses many of Father's abilities as well as the ability to turn all the people in the world into undead senior citizens.
  • Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons has always been distinctly darker than anybody else in a cast of hundreds. Especially prevalent in the classic "Cape Feare" episode where he forgoes evil plans and just tries to slice Bart to pieces with a machete, crouched and approaching with dark rings under his eyes...
  • While a few of them do play nice, most of the diesel engines in Thomas the Tank Engine are very vocal about their desire to overtake the steam engines and aren't above trying to hurry that day along. At least twice, they've tried to smelt down other engines and escaped any consequences.
  • Phineas and Ferb is a show that invokes Rousseau Was Right and usually has a Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain, which makes the presence of the unnamed Drill Sergeant Nasty in "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" all the more surprising. He spends the entire episode coldly and sadistically pounding out any creativity and happiness from the duo. He even DIES in the end. He's also a literal nightmare, so the show can get away with this.
  • Cracked.com presents: 7 Badass Cartoon Villains Who Lost to Retarded Heroes.
  • Teen Titans sometimes has this trope. The show itself is usually lighthearted, and most of the one-shot villains are comical (with a couple of notable exceptions)- but lets take a look at some of the Big Bads. Slade is a creepily emotionless diabolical mastermind who pretty much runs on blackmail, Mind Rape, Hannibal Lectures and Foe Yay, and delivers No Holds Barred Beatdowns to several characters in surprisingly vivid fashion. Then there's Trigon, who's basically Satan and wants to use the show's main Woobie, who's also his daughter, to bring about The End of the World as We Know It- and he actually succeeds in causing Hell on Earth for two episodes. Fun times.
    • Both villains (as well as Brother Blood) were toned down a lot for the cartoon. For much of the '80s, the Teen Titans was one of DC's darkest books. The fact that they were able to make it a kids' show is a feat for the ages.
  • Adventure Time is more of a Crap Saccharine World than a saccharine one (though the characters inside don't seem to care), but most monsters encountered are easily defeated and the common recurring enemy is an Ineffectually Sympathetic Jerkass Woobie, making Marceline's dad and The Lich still terrifying regardless of all the other nasty things lurking about.
  • The Transformers Animated version of Megatron, given the show's colorful and cartoonish nature.
    • Shockwave, who murdered Blurr in an incredibly horrifying manner, Wasp, being in a continuity where his insanity isn't played for laughs and is completely terrifying for it, and Lockdown, a freelance assassin Transformer who's caused Ratchet to have war flashbacks.
    • Lockdown's whole body is a Swiss Army Weapon whose left arm and leg don't match his right. Why? He butchers other Transformers for their parts to increase his power.
    • Prometheus Black/Meltdown is a rare human example in the series. While the other human villains in Animated are deliberately used as filler and to exemplify the Decepticons as a greater threat, Meltdown manages to be geuinely depraved and terrifying. Case in point - in his second appearance, he was experimenting on humans to try and create human transformers (he'd already done at least two adult humans, one of them his former lawyer, and was planning to use 8-year-old Sari Sumdac as his next test subject).
  • The Classic Disney Shorts have The Mad Doctor, who is an evil doctor bent on cutting up Mickey's dog Pluto as part of a lab experiment. Later, he actually threatens to cut open Mickey Mouse himself! Fortunately, he only exists in one of Mickey's nightmares. And because he is so evil, his picture is even placed on the Complete Monster page for the Disney villains!
  • Zordrak of The Dreamstone. A gargantuan bellowing Eldritch Abomination with a serious Hair-Trigger Temper that frequently abuses or even exterminates his Slave Mooks the Urpneys for the slightest irritance. While also managing to be rather funny, he's a pretty creepy guy, even when not compared to the cutesy residents of the Land Of Dreams.
  • Gargamel of The Smurfs qualifies for this designation, though not always.
  • Dr. Blowhole in The Penguins of Madagascar. In his debut episode he planned on flooding the world, just because of all the embarassment humans put him through when he was a circus dolphin. And in his second appearance, he intentionally meant to drown Skipper when he gave him amnesia. And that, after his first appearance, some of the other episodes went through Darker and Edgier territories.
  • A Finnish Children's show called The Moomins stars a family of cute claymation hippos--occasionally visited by some void/plague/death incarnation that can apparently kill things just by standing near them. It also moves like some kind of demon ghost.
  • Ed, Edd n Eddy has Eddy's brother. Sure, the show itself was a Sadist Show, but everything that happens to the Eds up until his appearance is played for laughs and could be considered lighthearted enough. Come the end of the movie, this guy manages to genuinely harm both his own brother and Edd, and he's been abusing the former for years. What all the typical bullies in the show witness him doing is horrific enough for them to redeem themselves and accept the Eds as their friends once and for all.
  • XANA from Code Lyoko: the show takes place in a college that appears to be a rather light-hearted, comical setting, with a ridiculous gym teacher, a Lovable Alpha Bitch and characters making jokes, but as soon as XANA starts acting, we suddenly get stuff such as Killer Wasps/Rats/Birds invasions, Giant Destructive Teddy Bears, place where Everything Is Trying To Kill You, Zombie Apocalypse, cataclysms, Demonic Possession, and the list goes on.
  • Dora the Explorer normally only has Swiper, but some of the movie Big Bads qualify. Especially the Witch from "Dora's Fairy Tale Adventure", who put Boots in a never ending sleep For the Evulz and was genuinely evil.