Values Dissonance/Video Games: Difference between revisions

* The manual for Interplay's PC adaptation of ''[[The Lord of the Rings|The Fellowship of the Ring]]'' had a section explaining that the portrayal of some elements of the setting reflected the source material and might conflict with modern sensibilities.

* Natsume has run into this a few times in translating the ''[[Harvest Moon]]'' games.

** There was also ''Harvest Moon GBC 3,'' which gave a choice of playing as either a male or female. The male character could get married and have a child and continue playing. The female character's game ended as soon as she married. Also, the love interest for the male character was completely useless until livestock was purchased, which could only be bought after growing a certain amount of grass. The love interest for the female character merely began as incompetent.

** In ''Back to Nature For Girl'', your game also ended after you became married. Though this was changed in the enhanced port-remake, ''More Friends of Mineral Town''.

* Shirou Emiya of ''[[Fate Stay Night]]'' earned [[The Scrappy|a large amount of fan hatred]] for his seeming [[Stay in The Kitchen]] attitude towards Saber's fighting in the Grail War. In fact, he's actually a ''subversion''; he's just mortally afraid of Saber dying (and painfully aware that he's not qualified to fight alone) and initially doesn't understand why, settling on a traditionalist view as a random excuse. Notably, he doesn't act this way towards ''any'' other woman (even Saber herself in the non-Fate routes), and the very idea is even mocked on occasion.

** This doesn't dismiss his approval of Ayako's attempted rape for 'teaching her femininity'. However, this along with [[Stay in The Kitchen]], fades from the later arcs.

** The same is true for the vanilla ''[[Persona 3]]'', except that it has a CERO "b" (12+).

** In both [[Persona 3]] and [[Persona 4]], doing well on your exams makes you more popular. Viewers of Western media are typically used to [[Intelligence Equals Isolation|the opposite trope]].

** Um, what about [[Gag Penis|Mara]]? Its presence alone should be enough to force an M rating on any [[Mega Ten]] game it's in.

* The makers of Shenmue II are guilty of this by having a barmaid, in [[The Eighties|the BRITISH Colony of Hong-Kong]]; thank Ryo for being so honest about being too young to <s>drink</s> buy alcohol at age [[Did Not Do the Research|18]].

* Sort of noticeable in the ''[[Metroid]]'' series of games: in the Japanese-made 2D games, Samus is a somewhat understated character, implied to not be terribly well-known outside of people who need to know who she is (typically, the Federation and some of the Pirates that she has history with). In the American-made 3D games, Samus is well-known by nearly everyone, played up like some sort of celebrity or war goddess, universally feared by the Pirates and well-respected by even the newest recruits in the Federation; in other words, a more Hollywood-esque portrayal of a heroine of her stature. Incidentally, the Japanese 2D games are also the ones to show Samus scantily clad in her "reveal", even as recently as ''Zero Mission'', the first 2D game to show her in her Zero Suit (which appear in some of the endings, but she's wearing less in others). It was the Americans who first made an attempt to cover her up, with ''Prime'' never showing less than her without her helmet, and ''Prime 2'' introducing her slinky but functional-looking Zero Suit.

** Of course, this has led to a large quantity of [[Americans Hate Tingle]] with the latest release in the series [[Metroid Other M]]; some of which being the various materials that were published to establish her emotions. For instance, the Japanese viewing "Bounty Hunter" as just a cool title rather than a badass anti-hero and/or amoral law enforcer, with a proposal in Prime 3 by Retro for side quest bounties being denied by Nintendo as something a good person like Samus would never do.

** That... might explain why ''[[Valkyria Chronicles III]]'' completely went the other direction when it comes to values (except Camaraderie, that's inviolable). Your characters are society's refuse, they constantly go against their superiors' orders (for better or for worse), {{spoiler|at some point they have to fight and kill their own countrymen}}, and their Valkyria, Riela, is not trying to do anything to change people's perception of her as a "freak". [[VC 3]] thrashes the usual Japanese values out of the window [[Metaphorgotten|and then tosses live grenades on them just to make sure.]]

* ''[[Rule of Rose]]'' was subject to this trope in many parts of Europe where the publishers were pressured to pulling it out of the shelves. All because it depicted children as something other than innocent little angels, capable of extreme cruelty and spite, and possessing early signs of developing sexuality -- even though nothing unwholesome happens with preteen children in that area, and the sexual abuse of a sixteen-year old girl is treated with all the horror it deserves.