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== [[WMG|WMGs]]s for [[Discworld]]/[[Discworld (Literature)/Thud|Thud{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}]]. Warning: Potential unmarked spoilers. ==
 
== The Battle of Koom Valley is a fractured [http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm Parrot] ==
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* That would be why the cube started talking in the first place, Rascal didn't start it, it was the Furies' "Awk! Awk!"
 
== The Watchman in Vimes' mind in Thud! is from [[Watchmen|Watchmen]] ==
It's actually Rorschach. [[A God Am I|Dr. Manhattan]] sent him there to protect Vimes, and so that he could truly become the hero he always wanted to be(or something like that).
* Rorschach? Oh, come on; Vimes is pretty much ruled by the letter of the law. Rorschach is willing to be a vigilante, which effectively makes him a special kind of criminal (i.e., he operates ''outside of'' the law, and given the way Rorschach operates, he usually commits crimes like assault in the course of his work). You could argue for Rorschach having a similar tendency to snap and attack his "perpetrators" to Vimes', but if so Rorschach's is not only on anywhere near as tight a leash as Vimes', but it's probably fairly completely uncontrolled. Vimes is ''way'' more badass than Rorschach.
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== The Devices were made by Trolls. ==
Trolls get smarter as it gets colder -- Detrituscolder—Detritus almost ''solved the universe'' when he got locked into the meat-futures freezer. The Devices are the last surviving traces of a Trollish civilization that flourished the last time the Disc went through an ice age. In ''Thud'', it's mentioned that Devices are usually found under mountains, and in ''Sourcery'', a long-ago ice age is mentioned.
* Or perhaps it fell due to the fifth elephant. Vimes reflected that the trolls could have been there when it hit.
 
== The Cube from ''Thud!'' was once baked inside the original Scone of Stone. ==
In ''[[Discworld (Literature)/The Fifth Elephant|The Fifth Elephant]]'', we learn from the "Ironhammer & Bloodaxe" opera that a piece of "truth" had been concealed inside the original Scone, so that it could be smuggled past these dwarf heroes' enemies. The Scone came into the possession of B'hrain Bloodaxe, who died in the caves under Koom Valley, and had a Cube on hand to record his and the troll king's testament to the world. Why else would B'hrain have been carrying such a priceless Device with him, or personally owned one at all, if not because he'd broken open the first Scone in secret and extracted the Cube -- aCube—a Device recording a great truth, namely a recitation of the unaltered Things Tak Wrote -- soWrote—so he could hear Ironhammer's voice again, after his beloved's suicide? He'd secretly re-baked the Scone from its shattered gravel, the first in a long series of dwarfs to do so, and kept the Cube that preserved Ironhammer's recital, adding his own to them when his death was imminent.
 
== The Summoning Dark is somehow related to [[Discworld (Literature)/A Hat Full of Sky|hivers]]. ==
It gets into people's heads, and makes them act bad-tempered and subtly out of character. A sufficiently strong will can stop its influence, or even drive it out completely (as seen when the SD meets Vimes's inner watchman, or when the hiver is tricked into the "soul and center" of Tiffany's mind). The Summoning Dark itself remarks that it had spent millenia just drifting aimlessly across the multiverse before "spending the last 10,000 years as a superstition".
 
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== The Inner Watchman is actually DW's god of justice. ==
Since we know how discworld, and Cori Celesti function, it is a safe bet that if there was ever a god of justice, and it is just one of those gods you just have to have, I mean even if no one actually would pray to him/it, there is a little piece in any person that believes in part at the actual concept of justice. So, we have a relatively minor god, that would never be welcome in the big place anyway because everyone there cheats, with nowhere to actually 'live as it is' except pure ethereal plane. On the other hand, we have Sam Vimes, who self admitedly does not trust in the gods, but he does fervently, and with all of his formidable willpower believe in justice, because without it he would be The beast. And, we know from Small Gods that one sole adherent of sufficiently strong belief can make a god, and also that the nature of the adherent in that case would affect the nature of the god in question.
* Or alternatively, Vimes is going to become the God of Justice/Watchmen after he dies, in much the same way that {{spoiler|The Duchess replaced Nuggan}} in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Monstrous Regiment|Monstrous Regiment]]''. We know it's possible now, and Vimes' reputation and the way the rest of the watch look up to him is reminiscent of {{spoiler|The Duchess}}.
 
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