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* What's Cole's motivation for reviving Malladus in the first place?
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** Probably something like Byrne's: Get power from the demon/get the princess out of the way so he can take over Hyrule and rule it.
* How exactly was the Chancellor able to boss around both the guards and Princess Zelda? Isn't she the ruler? In one early level, you have to sneak her out from her own castle because he has her guards keeping her inside. How? They're pretty clearly not hypnotized, so shouldn't her authority overrule his?
** Notice how she's the "princess" rather than "queen" despite the fact that her parents aren't even hinted at? That's not just for [[
*** That's odd. Considering at the end she does the "paperwork"...
*** 1) Paperwork does not equate to actual authority to remove trusted officials. 2) This is ''after'' Cole is removed from power (and life). 3) She has Teacher alongside her.
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*** They all seem to be in agreement of Link's ''absolute dedication'' to the train signals, though.
* Who ran Hyrule when the only three people known to do anything adminstrative went AWOL?
** The same guys who ran it in the Child-age of [[Ocarina of Time]] after Ganondorf burned the castle down. Really, this is Hyrule, land of incompetent guards and pocket-civilizations, where the ruling monarch is either called King or [[
* Exactly who thought that installing Phantoms was a good idea? Given that WW Link was the only person in New Hyrule to ever deal with them and how much they did to him, I sincerely doubt that he would readily recommend them.
** Weren't they there before any of the descendants of the people from old Hyrule came?
** It's heavily implied that the "power" that helped the spirits finally sealing Malladus was Tetra's Light-Force, since it seems to be the key to break the seal. Also, Light Arrows being the thing that defeated him. The only people known to ever use Light Arrows are Link and, especially, Princess Zelda. So I guess, Malladus defeat and the creation of the tower and the tracks occured roughly a week or so after the pirates first arrived on the continent. It was probably populated by the remaining hires of Hyrule a few months later, given that everybody states that the tracks and the tower have seamingly been there forever. Ah, anyway, to get down to the point: Anjean states that the Phantoms of the tower were originally animated by good spirits, rather than evil ones. Link probably thought "Hey, if the good guys are controlling them and not a life-force sucking monstrosity: Sure, why not?"
* It seems like the UK got its own translation of ''Spirit Tracks'', presumably because of the worldwide release, but it makes me so confused when everyone's referring to Byrne and Abado Village and whatever when I'm playing a game with Staven and... and I don't even know where Abado is, it might be Mayscore.
** It's Aboda. And it's called "Outset Village" in the UK Version. Yeah, somebody figgured it would be a good idea to give the starting location the same name as the starting location in ''[[The Legend of Zelda:
*** Link named the village after the island he grew up in. Seems reasonable to me.
*** Another thing that bugs me is that Link and Zelda called their new land Hyrule, despite the fact the King pretty much told them not to. But I guess that was probably in case Wind Waker was the last Zelda game; since it wasn't, the new land had to take on the mantle.
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*** It had to be changed because in the North American translation, all of the Lokomo (and Cole, for some reason) had train puns as names. Byrne = Burn. Like what you do to coal.
**** I may be mistaken, but I think that 'staving' a fire with coal is possible. It's still a train pun.
*** In German, it's even worse. He's called "Delok" there. It's supposed to be a "pun" [[Incredibly Lame Pun|(if this can even still be called a pun)]] on "D-Lok", the fastest kind train for regular passenger transportation in Germany (it still fails to be on time quite frequently, causing this name to become extreme [[Narm]], exspecially when you realize that it was Byrne/Staven/Diego/Oh-God-Help-Delok, who kept Zelda and Link from [[Disc One Final Dungeon|being "on time"]].) Also, the name sounds uncomfortably much like "Warlok", giving some people thoughts on bad Fantasy shows, like [[
** Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe do their own, independent localizations. Mostly US English vs British English. See ''[[Fire Emblem]] Shadow Dragon'' and ''[[Advance Wars]] Days of Ruin'' for more insanity.
* I can get most of the chests on people's roofs in Hyrule Castle Town, but I just can't see how one is meant to get the chest on the building to the right of the Cucco store (second from the left, top row). None of the nearby roofs are near enough to jump to it, even with a Cucco. What am I missing?
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** At least you didn't play the game in Italian, where Byrne/Staven's name is Tristalpin. No, that doesn't even remotely mean anything in the aforementioned language, sounding more like French instead. [[Everything Sounds Sexier in French|Maybe the translators tried to make it sound sexy?]] The names of the other Lokomos are as lame puns, if not more, as the American version.
** Apparently a stave is a piece of wood used when building railway tracks. It's either that, or his name is actually meant to be Steven. Which seems unlikely.
* Does New Hyrule have the pickiest train passengers in history or do they simply not recognize that it's sort of difficult to follow all traffic signals while ''under tank attack''? [[Dude, Where's My Respect?|Where's Link's respect]]?
** It gets even worse when you realize that Link is the only engineer brave enough to still use the tracks and therefore could charge his passengers a ton of money if he wanted to. They should be grateful about the fact that they are getting rides ''FOR FREE''.
*** By that logic, Teacher has the right to bitch at you, at the very least. He pays you 300 rupees per trip, and takes like six of them over the course of the game.
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*** [[Crowning Moment of Funny|Oh geez, I wish that button was in.]]
* Isn't there a problem inherent in the idea of gathering a large number of rabbits in one place, and then rewarding the person who brought them based on the quantity present? I mean, they're ''[[Explosive Breeder|rabbits]]''. "You've collected 21 out of 10 grass rabbits... wait a minute..."
** [[One
*** In that case, will they forcibly claim the snow rabbits?
** Incidentally, how can rabbits jump around on the surface of water?
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** [[A Wizard Did It|Magic]].
* How are Nico and Alfonzo in the shape they are? It's feasable to say that this game actually takes place a couple of decades after PH, and I swear there's a point where Tetra mentions finding a new land to settle, and Tetra's obviously dead (you can see her image in the stained glass in Zelda's throne room). However, how is Nico, ''explicitly the youngest crewmember,'' an old man, and ''Alfonzo, probably one of the oldest crewembers in WW, looking exactly the same?''
** Alfonzo was never part of Tetra's crew; in fact, he wasn't even alive during the time of ''[[The Legend of Zelda:
** A couple of decades? That'd make Tetra like... thirty. Centuries is more likely.
*** Exactly one century, to be precise. The only problem I have is that 100 years is actually Identical GREAT-grandchild territory, not Identical Grandchild.
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*** This troper had to quit the game around the fourth or fifth temple because the scrappiness of the flute sections got so bad.
* WHY are people STILL complaining about [[Spirit Tracks]], when we now know, that ZELDAS FREAKIN' SPIRIT is going to be the next "[[Exposition Fairy|Navi]]"?!?! People should be chanting hallelulja choruses by now, exspecially the ones that usually claim that Zelda is a too passiv character!!!!!!
** Presumably because, [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Midna aside,]] [[Exposition Fairy|the helper characters]] have a tendency to be [[Stop Helping Me!|minor annoyances]] at best. Most people simply want to play as Zelda ''herself'' instead of a Phantom [[Expy]].
* Why doesn't anyone else here seem to be even slightly distrubed by the fact that the [[Evil Chancellor]] is trying to revive a MALE [[Sealed Evil in
** Seems pretty tame, really.
** If it makes you feel better, [[Skyward Scream|Zelda's]] [[Crowning Moment of Funny|on your side.]]
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* How the heck is Niko comfortable with having a ''clone'' of his old swabby living in his house?! Shouldn't he like, have been really freaked out when the boy turned 10 or so and it slowly became obvious that he'd turn out to look exactly like TWW Link one day? His reaction should ''not'' be limited to handling him TWW Link's shield and some old scroll he wrote, darn!!
** Well, he did seem to be weirdly accepting of weird things in the previous games. Things like Link having a telepathic rock or his captain secretly being a princess pretty much gets a "Wow, ''cool''!" from him.
* Is Teacher actually his name, or his [[Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep"|title]]?
* The <s>hookshot</s> whip target bars on those birds. Who put them there? Why? And how come the birds don't get freaked out by a ten year-old flinging a whip with a snake head at their throats?
* The Gorram Pirate ships. Seriously, how the ''[[Atop the Fourth Wall
** Bombs do it too.
* A relatively minor one, I admit, but still...notice when you're in a town, Link's train is just sitting on the tracks, left unguarded. There is only one set of tracks; no cut-off for other trains to pass. Especially noticable is Hyrule Castle, which can have a Phantom Train pass by. So, what? Whenever the Spirit Train isn't moving, Phantom Trains don't move either?
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** This troper got the impression that,as the trains transformed into the dark/bomb/phantom trains, the drivers were still inside, so, when people said "only engineer", they meant "only surviving engineer"
** Oh My God...
* Just how old ''is'' this land? The flute was given to Zelda by her grandmother, and just about every character is maybe two generations away from [[Phantom Hourglass]]. And yet in less than a hundred years people manage to forget the whole [[Sealed Evil in
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