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{{quote|''"Captain Cold... Captain Boomerang... they probably would have gone for it if I was a captain."''|'''[[The Flash|Trickster]]''', ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]''}}
{{quote|''"Captain Cold... Captain Boomerang... they probably would have gone for it if I was a captain."''|'''[[The Flash|Trickster]]''', ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]''}}


There is a definite prejudice in [[Superhero]] comics towards using force rather than reason to sort things out. As a result, a fighting man with a military-sounding background gets more respect than a thinking man with a [[Morally Ambiguous Doctorate|doctorate or a medical qualification]]. This is probably an inheritance from the early days of comics, where the patriotic [[World War II]] setting made military good guys obvious. The rank of "Captain" probably became common as, in the Army, it is low-ranking enough to be approachable and avoid the [[We Have Reserves|inevitable moral ambiguity]] of the most senior ranks, but high enough to deserve some respect.
There is a definite prejudice in [[Superhero]] comics towards using force rather than reason to sort things out. As a result, a fighting man with a military-sounding background gets more respect than a thinking man with a [[Morally-Ambiguous Doctorate|doctorate or a medical qualification]]. This is probably an inheritance from the early days of comics, where the patriotic [[World War II]] setting made military good guys obvious. The rank of "Captain" probably became common as, in the Army, it is low-ranking enough to be approachable and avoid the [[We Have Reserves|inevitable moral ambiguity]] of the most senior ranks, but high enough to deserve some respect.


The upshot of this is that [[Captain Superhero|characters whose names begin with "Captain"]] are almost always good, unless explicitly subverting this or a Nazi. (In the case of a Nazi, or in the case of German officers from other periods, the correct title ''Hauptmann'' could occur. If the Nazi Captain is referred to as Kapitän we might have a case of [[Did Not Do the Research]], since Kapitän exclusively refers to the marine. Another trap for the unwary is referring to an SS officer of this rank as ''Hauptmann'' when he would in fact be a ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptsturmf<!-- C3BChrer Hauptsturmführer]]''.) -->
The upshot of this is that [[Captain Superhero|characters whose names begin with "Captain"]] are almost always good, unless explicitly subverting this or a Nazi. (In the case of a Nazi, or in the case of German officers from other periods, the correct title ''Hauptmann'' could occur. If the Nazi Captain is referred to as Kapitän we might have a case of [[Did Not Do the Research]], since Kapitän exclusively refers to the marine. Another trap for the unwary is referring to an SS officer of this rank as ''Hauptmann'' when he would in fact be a ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptsturmf<!-- C3BChrer Hauptsturmführer]]''.) -->
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Not necessarily [[The Captain]].
Not necessarily [[The Captain]].
{{examples|Examples}}
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
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** ''[[Gundam Seed]]'''s Captain Murrue Ramius of the ''Archangel'': Good, [[Team Mom]]
** ''[[Gundam Seed]]'''s Captain Murrue Ramius of the ''Archangel'': Good, [[Team Mom]]
*** Captain Natarle Badgiruel of the ''Dominion'': A [[Sergeant Rock]], but still Good
*** Captain Natarle Badgiruel of the ''Dominion'': A [[Sergeant Rock]], but still Good
*** Captain Andrew Waltfeld of the ''Lesseps'' and ''Eternal'': [[Anti Villain]], [[Heel Face Turn]] to the heroes' side.
*** Captain Andrew Waltfeld of the ''Lesseps'' and ''Eternal'': [[Anti-Villain]], [[Heel Face Turn]] to the heroes' side.
*** Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces General Staff and later, the ''Doolittle'': [[General Ripper]], [[Fantastic Racism|fantastic racist]], [[Obstructive Bureaucrat]], and [[The Dragon]] to [[Complete Monster|Muruta Azrael]]. Bad. ''[[Final Solution|Very]]'' [[We Have Reserves|bad]], and [[The Strategist]] to boot.
*** Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces General Staff and later, the ''Doolittle'': [[General Ripper]], [[Fantastic Racism|fantastic racist]], [[Obstructive Bureaucrat]], and [[The Dragon]] to [[Complete Monster|Muruta Azrael]]. Bad. ''[[Final Solution|Very]]'' [[We Have Reserves|bad]], and [[The Strategist]] to boot.
** ''[[Gundam Seed Destiny]]'''s Captain Talia Gladys of the ''Minerva'': Good, but loyal to a [[Well Intentioned Extremist]] leader.
** ''[[Gundam Seed Destiny]]'''s Captain Talia Gladys of the ''Minerva'': Good, but loyal to a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] leader.
*** Captain Neo Roanoke of the ''Girty Lue''. [[Manipulative Bastard]], [[Criminal Amnesiac]], and all around bastard. Bad, [[Team Dad]]. Later {{spoiler|pulls a [[Heel Face Turn]] after regaining his memory}}.
*** Captain Neo Roanoke of the ''Girty Lue''. [[Manipulative Bastard]], [[Criminal Amnesiac]], and all around bastard. Bad, [[Team Dad]]. Later {{spoiler|pulls a [[Heel Face Turn]] after regaining his memory}}.


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* Captain [[Horatio Hornblower]] - Good.
* Captain [[Horatio Hornblower]] - Good.
** Hornblower's sidekick eventually becomes Captain William Bush - also good. In fact even the 'evil' Captain Sawyer was really a figure of pity due to his increasing insanity.
** Hornblower's sidekick eventually becomes Captain William Bush - also good. In fact even the 'evil' Captain Sawyer was really a figure of pity due to his increasing insanity.
* ''[[Moby-Dick]]'''s Captain Ahab - [[Anti Hero]] or Villain.
* ''[[Moby-Dick]]'''s Captain Ahab - [[Anti-Hero]] or Villain.
* [[Captain Underpants]]: Good, but [[Good Is Dumb|dumb]].
* [[Captain Underpants]]: Good, but [[Good Is Dumb|dumb]].
* ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]'''s Captain Widdershins: good.
* ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]'''s Captain Widdershins: good.
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** From ''Retribution'', there's Kaptin Bluddflagg - [[Crazy Awesome]] [[Space Pirate]] [[Blood Knight]], but hired to do something Good.
** From ''Retribution'', there's Kaptin Bluddflagg - [[Crazy Awesome]] [[Space Pirate]] [[Blood Knight]], but hired to do something Good.
** From ''[[Warhammer 40000 Space Marine (Video Game)|Warhammer 40000 Space Marine]]'', there's Captain Titus. Good.
** From ''[[Warhammer 40000 Space Marine (Video Game)|Warhammer 40000 Space Marine]]'', there's Captain Titus. Good.
* ''[[Ratchet and Clank]]'''s Captain Qwark - Initially a [[Villain With Good Publicity]] and [[Fake Ultimate Hero]], though eventually becomes more a [[Lovable Coward]] and [[Anti Hero]] with a small bit of [[The Atoner]].
* ''[[Ratchet and Clank]]'''s Captain Qwark - Initially a [[Villain With Good Publicity]] and [[Fake Ultimate Hero]], though eventually becomes more a [[Lovable Coward]] and [[Anti-Hero]] with a small bit of [[The Atoner]].
** Also Captain Sasha, [[Girl of the Week]] from ''[[Ratchet and Clank Up Your Arsenal]]''. Good. Her biggest flaw is probably that she was hyped as a "female [[Star Wars|Han Solo]]" but turned out to be more of a [[Faux Action Girl]] in practice.
** Also Captain Sasha, [[Girl of the Week]] from ''[[Ratchet and Clank Up Your Arsenal]]''. Good. Her biggest flaw is probably that she was hyped as a "female [[Star Wars|Han Solo]]" but turned out to be more of a [[Faux Action Girl]] in practice.
* ''[[Mass Effect]]'''s Captain David Anderson: Good. Mentor to [[Player Character|Cmdr. Shepard]], who is [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|varying degrees of good]].
* ''[[Mass Effect]]'''s Captain David Anderson: Good. Mentor to [[Player Character|Cmdr. Shepard]], who is [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|varying degrees of good]].
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* ''[[Viewtiful Joe]]'''s Captain Blue! [[Henshin Hero|Henshin a go-go, baby!]] {{spoiler|Evil.}}
* ''[[Viewtiful Joe]]'''s Captain Blue! [[Henshin Hero|Henshin a go-go, baby!]] {{spoiler|Evil.}}
* ''[[Comic Jumper]]'''s Captain Smiley: Self-absorbed idiotic Jerkass.
* ''[[Comic Jumper]]'''s Captain Smiley: Self-absorbed idiotic Jerkass.
* ''[[Ace Combat]] 5'''s [[The Obi Wan|Captain Bartlett]], "[[Player Character|The]] [[AFGNCAAP|Captain]]", [[The Lancer|Captain Nagase]], [[The Big Guy|Captain Davenport]] ({{spoiler|post-humously promoted to Lieutenant Colonel}}), [[Ensign Newbie|Captain Grimm]], and [[Sixth Ranger|Captain Snow]]. All good.
* ''[[Ace Combat]] 5'''s [[The Obi-Wan|Captain Bartlett]], "[[Player Character|The]] [[AFGNCAAP|Captain]]", [[The Lancer|Captain Nagase]], [[The Big Guy|Captain Davenport]] ({{spoiler|post-humously promoted to Lieutenant Colonel}}), [[Ensign Newbie|Captain Grimm]], and [[Sixth Ranger|Captain Snow]]. All good.


== [[Web Comics]] ==
== [[Web Comics]] ==
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* [[Captain Planet and The Planeteers|Captain Planet]]: Good. [[Evil Knockoff|Captain Pollution: Evil.]]
* [[Captain Planet and The Planeteers|Captain Planet]]: Good. [[Evil Knockoff|Captain Pollution: Evil.]]
* ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'''s Captain Phoebus - the one from the [[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|Disney adaptation]]. The original was kind of a jerk.
* ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'''s Captain Phoebus - the one from the [[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|Disney adaptation]]. The original was kind of a jerk.
* ''[[Word Girl]]'''s Captain Huggy Face: The [[Non Human Sidekick]] , because [[Everythings Better With Monkeys]].
* ''[[Word Girl]]'''s Captain Huggy Face: The [[Non-Human Sidekick]] , because [[Everything's Better With Monkeys]].
* ''[[South Park]]'''s Captain Hindsight: Good, but doesn't do anything other than point out what could have been done.
* ''[[South Park]]'''s Captain Hindsight: Good, but doesn't do anything other than point out what could have been done.


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Revision as of 20:38, 8 January 2014

"Captain Cold... Captain Boomerang... they probably would have gone for it if I was a captain."

There is a definite prejudice in Superhero comics towards using force rather than reason to sort things out. As a result, a fighting man with a military-sounding background gets more respect than a thinking man with a doctorate or a medical qualification. This is probably an inheritance from the early days of comics, where the patriotic World War II setting made military good guys obvious. The rank of "Captain" probably became common as, in the Army, it is low-ranking enough to be approachable and avoid the inevitable moral ambiguity of the most senior ranks, but high enough to deserve some respect.

The upshot of this is that characters whose names begin with "Captain" are almost always good, unless explicitly subverting this or a Nazi. (In the case of a Nazi, or in the case of German officers from other periods, the correct title Hauptmann could occur. If the Nazi Captain is referred to as Kapitän we might have a case of Did Not Do the Research, since Kapitän exclusively refers to the marine. Another trap for the unwary is referring to an SS officer of this rank as Hauptmann when he would in fact be a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptsturmf

"Commander" carries similar connotations to "Captain." As a naval rank, it's a likely designation for commanding officers in Space Navies.

Not necessarily The Captain.

Examples of The Good Captain include:


Anime and Manga

Comic Books

Film

  • Captain Chaos: Good but goofy in The Cannonball Run; evil but goofy in the Scottish Amicable adverts.
    • And Captain USA at the very end of the movie. Dom Deluise blooped "Captain America" as can be seen in the end credits.
  • Mystery Men's Captain Amazing: Strictly commercial. Vanquishes baddies, but also occasionally gets them released from prison for selfish publicity-seeking reasons.
  • In Pirates of the Caribbean, Captain Jack Sparrow: Good (?), though often drunk/crazy. Or is he? Occasionally sells out his friends as part of a Batman Gambit. It's okay, they frequently return the favor, and unlike them, Jack usually has a Plan B to get them out of it...
  • Captain Zoom - Initially reluctant, but heroic in the end.
  • In Godzilla, Captain Gordon: Good, and a incredibly huge Badass. The man defeated Godzilla by burying him in ice, successfully lead a resistance against the massively powerful alien force with just his crew and Godzilla and killed aliens with a katana and his bare hands, and even at the end of the movie when Godzilla brought down he still is prepared to fight him with just a sword.
  • Star Wars's Captain Han Solo: Good.
  • Atlantis the Lost Empire: Commander Lyle Rourke is a subversion of this, and a good one too. There are a couple hints in his dialogue that he's not what he seems, but overall he does a good job faking the audience out and setting up the reveal.
  • In M*A*S*H, Benjamin Franklin "Hawkeye" Pierce, "Duke" Forrest, and "Trapper" John Mc Intyre are all Captains. They're not quite as good as their television counterparts, but they're much better than their counterparts in the novel.

Literature

Live-Action TV

Meta

Video Games

Web Comics

Web Original

  • Red vs. Blue's Captain Butch Flowers: Good, and disturbingly nice towards his men.
  • Doctor Horribles Sing Along Blog's Captain Hammer: Subverts and Lampshades this trope. Despite being a superhero and beloved by the whole city, he's also a tremendous jerk and far less sympathetic than villainous Dr. Horrible.
  • Whateley Universe's The other Captain Bravo: good. Well, he thinks he's good, but he's a pinhead. And he's not allowed to use the 'captain' part of his codename until he graduates from Whateley Academy and earns the title in the military. Titles from the military, nobility are academic titles must be earned the hard way before they can be used in a codename.
  • In the Global Guardians PBEM Universe, Capitao Batalha ("Captain Battle") is the premiere hero of Brazil. There's also Captain Australia, Captain Speedy, Captain California, and Captain Hammer. In the 50s and 60s, there was Captain Amazing, but he's dead now.

Western Animation