Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann/WMG: Difference between revisions

* Lets see, earliest example was when Viral saved Adine by catching Dai-GurrensGurren's foot and threw it on its ass. He came up underneath it (drills maybe?) and caught a giant foot that probably weighed somewhere over three tons. Then he survived the explosion Adine's sub. In the penultimate episode, Viral gets caught in the dimensional labyrinth with everyone else, because it was a trap that targeted creatures that could produce spiral energy, and later; during the final fight, the show flashes to Viral saying something, and then Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann pulls out two katanas; weapons that Viral has been using throughout the series. Also, in the second movie, he gets a tengen toppa (spiral energy flames and all) with a design that reminds this troper of shiva and uses a sword in each hand.

* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.comcc//interview/2008-07-28/gainax-on-gurren-lagann This interview] says that the opening was originally supposed to foreshadow the ending. Along the way, it was [[Retcon]]'d into an [[Alternate Universe]] where Simon does become the Spiral Nemesis.

* If Pikachu is a direct-line male heir to Boota, and Squirtle is Kamina, what does that say about Ash?! [[Kid Hero]], [[Idiot Hero]], able to tell [[Screw theNew Rules Ias Havethe Plot Demands|the rules of reality]] to fuck off whenever he and Pikachu want to do something, he must be Simon reincarnated. Squirtle/Kamina came to Ash at the beginning of his adventure, when he needed help, and left (this time without the [[Heroic Sacrifice]]) when Ash no longer needed him around. The glasses worn by the other Squirtles around him must have been references to Simon's goggles, in an attempt to get closer to their [[Crazy Awesome]] leader.

** This particular guess is completely, completely just plain wrong. While it is entirely possible that {{spoiler|He could find a woman who looks like her}}, a higher-quality image shows that [https://web.archive.org/web/20210328153118/http://img.imgcake.com/Suri/not!wife404.pnghtml not only are those horns and not ears, but appears to be male and has a beard.]{{Dead link}}

* Continuing from the above, the Anti-Spirals were responsible for the death of the Dreamcast. But during Sega's decline in [[The Nineties|the mid-to-late 1990s]], and especially after they were out of the market, gaming took on a decidedly [[Darker and Edgier]] slant. First with [[Grand Theft Auto]]-style sandbox games set in [[Crime-Time TV|crime-ridden cities]], then with [[Real Is Brown|realistic]] [[First-Person Shooter|First Person Shooters]] where the player is not an individual hero but a single soldier who may or may not have any real effect on the outcome of the war, games are going [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|down to the cynical end of the scale]], very much fitting with the Anti-Spiral motive of creating cynicism and despair. Nintendo and Sega, makers of decidedly more idealistic games that gave gaming actual "faces" like [[Super Mario Bros.|Mario]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] (remember the ''faceless'' Anti-Spiral robots? And the "faceless" corporations they're using to take over gaming?), pissed off the Anti-Spirals to no end, so they directed their hate at those companies. Sega went down with their [[Dreamcast]], leaving the console market. Their niche was filled by Microsoft, a company even further divorced from "idealism" than Sony. It seemed like Nintendo, too would fall: the Gamecube was the bottom of its generation, and Anti-Spiral puppet corporation Sony was poised to enter the handheld market. It would supposedly destroy Nintendo there. All seemed dark, like the Spirals would fade from gaming altogether, until... '''[[Wii|ROW ROW]] [[Nintendo DS|FIGHT THE POWAH!]]''' You want even more proof? [https://web.archive.org/web/20121002140311/http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html Go ahead, Ctrl+ F and search "Spiral".] Nintendo's "User Satisfaction as King" business strategy is called a Spiral! The "[["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|hardcore]]" FPS gamers, who by now are ''de facto'' Anti-Spirals, are pissed at Nintendo's strategy of expanding the market to all for fear that it will cause the gaming Spiral Nemesis, destroying video gaming's special niche in the culture. Oh, and [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] is Simon.

* That explains the [[Four Chan4chan|ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH combined with Large Hadron Collider memes]].....

* [http://gurennlagann.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kaminaandsimon26.jpg Look at them]{{Dead link}}. Nearly the same hair, facial expression, [[Walking Shirtless Scene]]... Whether Kamina knows this or not makes no difference.

== Show takes place in a distant future of ''[[Shinkon Gattai Godannar]]'' ==

== Suigetsu from ''[[Naruto]]'' is Viral. ==

Okay, so, nobody in Gurren Lagann (excluding [[Badass|LordGenome]]) has managed to manifest Spiral Power without the aid of a machine or some other item (i.e. the Core Drill). Sometime in the future, humanity creates techniques to manifest Spiral Power sans an external aid. This is the root of Jutsu. Eventually there's another war or something, and humanity once again finds itself nearly wiped out. They are forced to rebuild again, however, this time they retain the core of what would become Jutsu. Viral survives, and in the Naruto universe he calls himself Suigetsu (I mean [https://web.archive.org/web/20150530192729/http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/572/23001-suigetsu_super_strenght_super.jpg look at him]!). This conveniently explains the spiral motif in Naruto's character (i.e. the Rasengan, his seal) and why Naruto keeps being able to do crazy stuff despite whatever beating he might take (it only fuels his hotbloodedness, which fuels spiral power i.e. chakra). This Troper also likes to dream about how the ultimate form of the Rasengan will be the Lazengann.