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* Making the more emotional character [[The Ditz]], a [[Cloudcuckoolander]], or a [[Leeroy Jenkins]].
* Making the more emotional character [[The Ditz]], a [[Cloudcuckoolander]], or a [[Leeroy Jenkins]].
* Making an [[Sliding Scale Long Name|incredibly cynical world]], in which more emotional characters are [[Wide Eyed Idealist|Wide Eyed Idealists]] [[Jade-Colored Glasses|to be]] [[Break the Cutie|broken]], and [[Moral Dissonance|playing off]] [[Shoot the Dog|very amoral behavior]] as [[I Did What I Had to Do|only "correct" and "realistic."]]
* Making an [[Sliding Scale Long Name|incredibly cynical world]], in which more emotional characters are [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|Wide Eyed Idealists]] [[Jade-Colored Glasses|to be]] [[Break the Cutie|broken]], and [[Moral Dissonance|playing off]] [[Shoot the Dog|very amoral behavior]] as [[I Did What I Had to Do|only "correct" and "realistic."]]
* Conveniently forgetting that [[Lack of Empathy|empathy is emotional, too]].
* Conveniently forgetting that [[Lack of Empathy|empathy is emotional, too]].
* Having [[Agent Mulder|every single emotional character]] [[Dying Like Animals|be a]] [[Belief Makes You Stupid|blind believer]] in a [[Corrupt Church|corrupt]] [[Path of Inspiration|system]] [[Religion of Evil|of]] [[Villain With Good Publicity|authority]].
* Having [[Agent Mulder|every single emotional character]] [[Dying Like Animals|be a]] [[Belief Makes You Stupid|blind believer]] in a [[Corrupt Church|corrupt]] [[Path of Inspiration|system]] [[Religion of Evil|of]] [[Villain with Good Publicity|authority]].
* Having the emotional characters see absolutely no value in logic.
* Having the emotional characters see absolutely no value in logic.
* [[Hysterical Woman|Emotionalism is sometimes associated with]] [[Distressed Damsel|weakness and femininity]], whereas the rational man is portrayed as the strong one. Extra bonus if she keeps insisting she's [[Closer to Earth]].
* [[Hysterical Woman|Emotionalism is sometimes associated with]] [[Distressed Damsel|weakness and femininity]], whereas the rational man is portrayed as the strong one. Extra bonus if she keeps insisting she's [[Closer to Earth]].
* Painting intuition as always silly or wrong, ignoring the fact that intuition is simply the ability to pick up on subtle cues without realizing it, and that following your intuition can often be very logical.
* Painting intuition as always silly or wrong, ignoring the fact that intuition is simply the ability to pick up on subtle cues without realizing it, and that following your intuition can often be very logical.
* Making them a [[Glurge Addict]] or a [[Misplaced Kindergarten Teacher]].
* Making them a [[Glurge Addict]] or a [[Misplaced Kindergarten Teacher]].
* Paint them as a [[Wide Eyed Idealist]] or even a [[New Age Retro Hippie]] who is too dippy or weak-willed to [[Shoot the Dog]].
* Paint them as a [[Wide-Eyed Idealist]] or even a [[New Age Retro Hippie]] who is too dippy or weak-willed to [[Shoot the Dog]].


This trope is different from [[Emotions vs. Stoicism]], in that [[Emotions vs. Stoicism]] portrays logic and emotions as both having strengths and weaknesses, whereas this trope strawmans emotion much the same way [[Straw Vulcan]] strawmans logic. This trope is less often played straight than [[Straw Vulcan]], because, well, strawmanning emotion [[You Fail Logic Forever|isn't very logical.]] In fact, an author who plays this trope straight is likely to be a [[Straw Vulcan]] themselves. They are also very likely to fall on the Enlightenment side of [[Romanticism Versus Enlightenment]].
This trope is different from [[Emotions vs. Stoicism]], in that [[Emotions vs. Stoicism]] portrays logic and emotions as both having strengths and weaknesses, whereas this trope strawmans emotion much the same way [[Straw Vulcan]] strawmans logic. This trope is less often played straight than [[Straw Vulcan]], because, well, strawmanning emotion [[You Fail Logic Forever|isn't very logical.]] In fact, an author who plays this trope straight is likely to be a [[Straw Vulcan]] themselves. They are also very likely to fall on the Enlightenment side of [[Romanticism Versus Enlightenment]].
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* [[Star Trek TOS|McCoy]] could occasionally slip into this, much as Spock could occasionally be a [[Straw Vulcan]].
* [[Star Trek TOS|McCoy]] could occasionally slip into this, much as Spock could occasionally be a [[Straw Vulcan]].
** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral.
** The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral.
* On ''[[Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' Data and Lore are androids of incredibly similar construction, the difference being that Lore has emotions and Data does not (at least until the movies). This makes Data a hero and Lore a villain.
* On ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' Data and Lore are androids of incredibly similar construction, the difference being that Lore has emotions and Data does not (at least until the movies). This makes Data a hero and Lore a villain.
* The Human Torch in the ''[[Fantastic Four]]'' comics. While none of the characters outright reject the importance of emotions, Johnny is by far the most emotional and the most likely to get [[Worf Effect|smacked to the pavement]] when he charges blindly into battle. Reed Richards is by far the least emotional, and is right so often that every time he's wrong the world makes a little less sense.
* The Human Torch in the ''[[Fantastic Four]]'' comics. While none of the characters outright reject the importance of emotions, Johnny is by far the most emotional and the most likely to get [[Worf Effect|smacked to the pavement]] when he charges blindly into battle. Reed Richards is by far the least emotional, and is right so often that every time he's wrong the world makes a little less sense.
* Just as [[Ayn Rand]] 's heroes are [[Straw Vulcan|Straw Vulcans]], so her villains tend to be [[Strawman Emotional]] characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[Atlas Shrugged|James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone.
* Just as [[Ayn Rand]] 's heroes are [[Straw Vulcan|Straw Vulcans]], so her villains tend to be [[Strawman Emotional]] characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--[[Atlas Shrugged|James Taggart]] being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone.
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** Another ''Simpsons'' example is the segregated girls' math class Lisa is stuck in, where the students learn how numbers make them feel, but not how to add or subtract them.
** Another ''Simpsons'' example is the segregated girls' math class Lisa is stuck in, where the students learn how numbers make them feel, but not how to add or subtract them.
* [[Star Wars|Anakin Skywalker]] in contrast to the rest of the Jedi, who believe emotions lead to [[The Dark Side]].
* [[Star Wars|Anakin Skywalker]] in contrast to the rest of the Jedi, who believe emotions lead to [[The Dark Side]].
* In ''[[House (TV)|House]]'' Dr. Allison Cameron, who occasionally veered into [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids|Strawman Idealist.]]
* In ''[[House (TV series)|House]]'' Dr. Allison Cameron, who occasionally veered into [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids|Strawman Idealist.]]


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Revision as of 21:35, 9 April 2014

How to reconcile logic and emotions? Ever since humanity has become able to think and reason, we've wondered about that, hence tropes like The Spock, The McCoy, Straw Vulcan, and Emotions vs. Stoicism. This trope is the exact opposite of Straw Vulcan, in that it makes a strawman of the more emotional character. The tactics often used include:

This trope is different from Emotions vs. Stoicism, in that Emotions vs. Stoicism portrays logic and emotions as both having strengths and weaknesses, whereas this trope strawmans emotion much the same way Straw Vulcan strawmans logic. This trope is less often played straight than Straw Vulcan, because, well, strawmanning emotion isn't very logical. In fact, an author who plays this trope straight is likely to be a Straw Vulcan themselves. They are also very likely to fall on the Enlightenment side of Romanticism Versus Enlightenment.

Examples of Strawman Emotional include:
  • Stephen Colbert's character.
  • McCoy could occasionally slip into this, much as Spock could occasionally be a Straw Vulcan.
    • The Romulans, as well. Since breaking away from the Vulcans over a disagreement over using logic to control emotion or not, they became incredibly amoral.
  • On Star Trek: The Next Generation Data and Lore are androids of incredibly similar construction, the difference being that Lore has emotions and Data does not (at least until the movies). This makes Data a hero and Lore a villain.
  • The Human Torch in the Fantastic Four comics. While none of the characters outright reject the importance of emotions, Johnny is by far the most emotional and the most likely to get smacked to the pavement when he charges blindly into battle. Reed Richards is by far the least emotional, and is right so often that every time he's wrong the world makes a little less sense.
  • Just as Ayn Rand 's heroes are Straw Vulcans, so her villains tend to be Strawman Emotional characters with a senseless hatred of the heroes. Many of them--James Taggart being probably the most articulate example--expound a philosophy that although a man like Hank Rearden is more productive, an emotional man like Taggart is superior because he bases his actions on "love"--while of course, Taggart and others like him show no sign that they are actually capable of having love for anyone.
  • Jake Morgendorffer in Daria. Most of the ensemble characters carry this particular Idiot Ball regularly, but Jake is probably the most consistent.
  • Liberals, according to Conservapedia. Their article on liberalism outright says that there is no such thing as coherent liberal beliefs, and liberals are actually just conservatives who disagree for no logical reason because they want attention. Kind of ironic as many of the editors of Conservapedia who aren't Trolls are Strawman Emotionals themselves.
  • Helen "Won't someone please Think of the Children ?" Lovejoy
    • Another Simpsons example is the segregated girls' math class Lisa is stuck in, where the students learn how numbers make them feel, but not how to add or subtract them.
  • Anakin Skywalker in contrast to the rest of the Jedi, who believe emotions lead to The Dark Side.
  • In House Dr. Allison Cameron, who occasionally veered into Strawman Idealist.