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What happens when [[The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry]] switches genders? [[Cain and Abel]]. What's the [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions|difference]] between [[The Scrappy]] and a [[Creators Pet]]? Authors love their Pet. Is this introductory paragraph trying to explain by example a [[Xanatos Gambit]] or a [[Batman Gambit]]?
What happens when [[The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry]] switches genders? [[Cain and Abel]]. What's the [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions|difference]] between [[The Scrappy]] and a [[Creator's Pet]]? Authors love their Pet. Is this introductory paragraph trying to explain by example a [[Xanatos Gambit]] or a [[Batman Gambit]]?


When defining a trope, it often helps to establish its similarities, differences and relationship to other tropes; a common convention on this site is to refer to some tropes as Sister Tropes.
When defining a trope, it often helps to establish its similarities, differences and relationship to other tropes; a common convention on this site is to refer to some tropes as Sister Tropes.
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** ''[[Stairway to Heaven]] -- [[Hellevator]]''
** ''[[Stairway to Heaven]] -- [[Hellevator]]''
* '''Form:''' When two or more tropes are similar in style but themselves unique, usually used for different purposes.
* '''Form:''' When two or more tropes are similar in style but themselves unique, usually used for different purposes.
** ''[[Its a Long Story]] -- [[To Make a Long Story Short]]''
** ''[[It's a Long Story]] -- [[To Make a Long Story Short]]''
** ''[[Compliment Backfire]] -- [[Insult Backfire]]''
** ''[[Compliment Backfire]] -- [[Insult Backfire]]''
* '''Same Parent:''' Subtropes of the same [[Super Trope]] are frequently referred to this way.
* '''Same Parent:''' Subtropes of the same [[Super Trope]] are frequently referred to this way.
** In [[Anti Villain]]: ''[[Noble Demon]] -- [[Dark Messiah]]''
** In [[Anti-Villain]]: ''[[Noble Demon]] -- [[Dark Messiah]]''
** In [[Poor Communication Kills]]: ''[[Cannot Spit It Out]] -- [[You're Just Jealous]]''
** In [[Poor Communication Kills]]: ''[[Cannot Spit It Out]] -- [[You're Just Jealous]]''
* '''Conjoined Use:''' They are different, perhaps a character and an attack, plot, or relationship, but see frequent (though not necessarily exclusive) use together.
* '''Conjoined Use:''' They are different, perhaps a character and an attack, plot, or relationship, but see frequent (though not necessarily exclusive) use together.
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Sometimes when two distinct tropes serve almost exactly the same function or have [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions|very subtle differences]] in description, it can reach the point that they are used almost interchangeably. Bad [[Flanderization]]! ''Bad!'' The [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions]] is your friend.
Sometimes when two distinct tropes serve almost exactly the same function or have [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions|very subtle differences]] in description, it can reach the point that they are used almost interchangeably. Bad [[Flanderization]]! ''Bad!'' The [[Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions]] is your friend.
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* It is possible to juggle a [[Villain Ball|Villain]], [[Idiot Ball|Idiot]] and [[Conflict Ball]] all at once. [[Idiot Ball]] doesn't necessarily make direct conflict, and [[Conflict Ball]] doesn't necessarily make idiocy. Thus they are related, but not really covered by the other. [[Villain Ball]] carrying may involve stupidly [[Pyrrhic Villainy]] and cause conflict aplenty, but it doesn't have to.
* It is possible to juggle a [[Villain Ball|Villain]], [[Idiot Ball|Idiot]] and [[Conflict Ball]] all at once. [[Idiot Ball]] doesn't necessarily make direct conflict, and [[Conflict Ball]] doesn't necessarily make idiocy. Thus they are related, but not really covered by the other. [[Villain Ball]] carrying may involve stupidly [[Pyrrhic Villainy]] and cause conflict aplenty, but it doesn't have to.
* [[Big No]] and [[Chewing the Scenery]] (or [[Large Ham]]) can often overlap, but not always.
* [[Big No]] and [[Chewing the Scenery]] (or [[Large Ham]]) can often overlap, but not always.
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* So are [[Gargle Blaster]] and [[Hideous Hangover Cure]].
* So are [[Gargle Blaster]] and [[Hideous Hangover Cure]].
* [[Cast of Snowflakes]] is what happens when those [[Loads and Loads of Characters]] are given characterization.
* [[Cast of Snowflakes]] is what happens when those [[Loads and Loads of Characters]] are given characterization.
* [[Nice Job Breaking It Herod]], your [[Genocide Backfire|Genocide Backfired]] on us completely.
* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Herod]], your [[Genocide Backfire|Genocide Backfired]] on us completely.
* [[Human Shield]] and [[Bulletproof Human Shield]] both deal with bystanders being used to protect a target. The former discusses the psychological coverage, while the latter deals with physical protection.
* [[Human Shield]] and [[Bulletproof Human Shield]] both deal with bystanders being used to protect a target. The former discusses the psychological coverage, while the latter deals with physical protection.
* [[High Octane Nightmare Fuel]] is related to [[Nightmare Fuel]], but it's basically something deliberately horrific that works, rather than unintentional. And when it fails, it's [[Nightmare Retardant]].
* [[High Octane Nightmare Fuel]] is related to [[Nightmare Fuel]], but it's basically something deliberately horrific that works, rather than unintentional. And when it fails, it's [[Nightmare Retardant]].
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* [[Innocent Fanservice Girl]] and [[Shameless Fanservice Girl]]. Both are girls who have no nudity taboo. But one is aware of the existence of nudity taboos, and the other isn't.
* [[Innocent Fanservice Girl]] and [[Shameless Fanservice Girl]]. Both are girls who have no nudity taboo. But one is aware of the existence of nudity taboos, and the other isn't.
* [[Badass Normal]] and [[Costumed Nonsuper Hero]] often overlap in certain contexts (most importantly probably the person of [[Batman]]), even though the only thing they conceptually have in common is having no superpowers.
* [[Badass Normal]] and [[Costumed Nonsuper Hero]] often overlap in certain contexts (most importantly probably the person of [[Batman]]), even though the only thing they conceptually have in common is having no superpowers.
* [[Xanatos Gambit]] and [[Batman Gambit]] are both schemes to achieve benefit but they are executed differently. The [[Batman Gambit]] is based on [[Flaw Exploitation]] and/or what a given mark is most likely to do. Thus, it will fail if the mark doesn't behave as predicted. The [[Xanatos Gambit]] is based on [[Mortons Fork]]: it can succeed no matter which prong the mark is impaled on. The benefits may be completely unrelated or they may be different paths to the same goal as long as every reasonable outcome benefits the planner in some what.
* [[Xanatos Gambit]] and [[Batman Gambit]] are both schemes to achieve benefit but they are executed differently. The [[Batman Gambit]] is based on [[Flaw Exploitation]] and/or what a given mark is most likely to do. Thus, it will fail if the mark doesn't behave as predicted. The [[Xanatos Gambit]] is based on [[Morton's Fork]]: it can succeed no matter which prong the mark is impaled on. The benefits may be completely unrelated or they may be different paths to the same goal as long as every reasonable outcome benefits the planner in some what.


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Mini Dress of Power[1] and Sexy Santa Dress[2] are both skimpy dresses for Fan Service, but otherwise different purposes.


What happens when The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry switches genders? Cain and Abel. What's the difference between The Scrappy and a Creator's Pet? Authors love their Pet. Is this introductory paragraph trying to explain by example a Xanatos Gambit or a Batman Gambit?

When defining a trope, it often helps to establish its similarities, differences and relationship to other tropes; a common convention on this site is to refer to some tropes as Sister Tropes.

When two or more tropes have some overlap in their descriptions, "parentage", or use, but not enough for one to be a Sub Trope or Super Trope of the other, these are called Sister Tropes. That is, both have a similar form or function, either by category (character, plot) or by effect (characterization) rendering them both similar but distinct enough to be considered equals. Not that there's anything wrong with subtropes!

These are the four Trope Sisters, each more lovely than the last:

Sometimes when two distinct tropes serve almost exactly the same function or have very subtle differences in description, it can reach the point that they are used almost interchangeably. Bad Flanderization! Bad! The Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions is your friend.

Examples of Sister Trope include: