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* This trope is inverted in ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' when [[Cool Old Guy|Takenaka]], a [[Terrorists Without a Cause|Terrorist Without A Cause]], attempts to interrogate [[The Hero|Rock]] into giving up some info by convincing him that they're [[Not So Different]]. Rock refuses, and asks Takenaka why he keeps fighting for a cause he's already lost. Takenaka explains that he's long since lost any ideals about being able to do anything constructive with his actions, but "keeps preaching" because it's the only thing he finds meaning in doing.
* Used in ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'' to highlight the duality between Kotetsu and his partner Barnaby. Barnaby, a [[Punch Clock Hero]] who views superheroics as "just another job", finds Kotetsu's still-intact idealism and aspirations towards being [[The Cape]] to be childish and naive. The twist is that Kotetsu is at least ten years older than Barnaby, and seems to be holding on to the virtues of "the good old days" in an era where superheroes have become marketing mascots.
** As the series progresses and he starts to rub off on Barnaby, the focus of the trope shifts from the two of them to Kotetsu and [[Nineties Anti
*** In his case, it turns out his mindset is based on {{spoiler|1=the knowledge of what the Stern Bild idea of 'justice' actually entails. For much of the series the HeroTV heroes are ignorant of the the massive corruption and violence that lies behind the glitzy theatrics, giving another reason (if one were needed) why the others don't see where Lunatic's coming from. [[Sequel Hook|Hopefully]] time will tell what the reactions of them and NEXTs in general will be to Maverick's setup being uncovered.}}
* In ''[[One Piece]]'', when the Sun Pirates helps a young human girl (whom they had grown to cherish) return to her village, Arlong is quick to ruin their mood by stating that Koala will grow up to hate fishmen like any other human.
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** Although this can be described as [[Silly Rabbit, Romance Is for Kids]].
** A bit of both; she also uses it as an explanation of how she went from [[Granola Girl|an environmentally crusading marine biologist]] to [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|the head of Luthorcorp]].
* Amy Pond in the new series of ''[[
{{quote| '''Amy''': I grew up.<br />
'''The Doctor''': ''(confidently)'' Don't worry. I'll soon fix that. }}
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{{quote| '''Jak''': [[The Power of Friendship|I've found out who]] [[Nakama|my real friends are]].<br />
'''G.T. Blitz''': [[Evil Cannot Comprehend Good|Oh please, the BS meter is really pegging now!]] }}
* In ''[[Devil Survivor (Video Game)|Devil Survivor]]'', [[Knight in Sour Armor|Keisuke]] winds up playing reluctant mentor to [[Genki Girl|Midori]]; she refuses to listen to his warnings partly because he feels this way. Over time, he grows more desperate to convince her ''and'' more cynical, until {{spoiler|he [[Freak
* Completely inverted in ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]''. Squall starts off believing that his own cynical, antisocial viewpoints are the correct ones, but as the game progresses and Rinoa and the friends he makes help him both emotionally mature and deal with his mental trauma, he becomes more idealistic.
* [http://www.zeldauniverse.net/articles/zelda-wii-needs-an-anti-hero/ This article] concerning ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'' claims that, since ''[[Twilight Princess]]'' went with a realistic art style, Nintendo ought to have made Link more "realistic," namely, by turning him into an antihero. The author's argument hinges in large part on his assertion that people were "[[Fan Dumb|very disappointed]]" with ''Twilight Princess'' because the realistic art style supposedly ought to have been paired with a non-idealistic hero. The article became [[Hilarious in Hindsight]] because, a mere three days later, ''[[Skyward Sword]]'' was revealed with an art style that was decidedly less realistic than the one in ''Twilight Princess'', with a Link who is just as much of a normal hero as both the one in ''Twilight Princess'' and every other Link.
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*** The trick here is that altering the election system would require the co-operation of the party or parties in charge, and it's always in their best interest to keep third-parties as shutout as possible.
* The very fact that the [[Sliding Scale of Idealism vs. Cynicism]] was once called the Sliding Scale of Idealism Vs '''''Realism''''' illustrates this trope well.
* In International Relations theory, the two biggest (though by no means only) schools of thought are usually referred to as Liberalism, which believes that [[The Alliance|countries can]] [[We ARE Struggling Together!|work together]] and that [[Good Feels Good|co-operation either is or should be a priority for countries in almost all circumstances and is mutually beneficial for all concerned]]; and Realism, which is a [[The Cynic|rather more cynical take on things]] [[Realpolitik|that suggests all countries are/should be]] [[It's All About Me|out for themselves at all times]], are mutually hostile, and often are [[Pretext for War|barely restrained from outright conflict]] at all times. Although realists were the ones who chose the label, so the choice was probably made with this trope in mind to suggest maturity and to downplay the 'silly' or 'naive' idealism of others.
** [[Golden Mean Fallacy|And in the middle]] we have the Rationalist school, which [[Golden Mean Fallacy|accepts some elements of both theories]].
* A political cartoon in 2008 accused John McCain of pandering to the right wing in his Republican Presidential nomination campaign with his much less moderate views than he had promoted in his 2000 campaign. When asked what happened to the "Straight-Talk Express" McCain of 2000, the cartoon version of him replied, "He lost."
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