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When Madoka {{spoiler|ascended, she became a pseudo-Witch while retaining her sanity; the barrier she generates}} actually contains half of the entire universe. The other half contains {{spoiler|the "equivalent despair" that was necessary for her ascension, inhabited by Demons.}} Kyubey {{spoiler|(all of them)}} got fired from his position for incompetence and was replaced by other Incubators, one of whom was Yuuki Terumi. Terumi trolls humanity incessantly because {{spoiler|he's an extremely rare member of his species who possesses emotions (and therefore magic),}} and being around emotionless bastards like Kyubey drove him nuts. To compensate for the {{spoiler|much lower energy returns from Demon-hunting as opposed to witch-hunting,}} the Incubators contract thousands of Magical Girls, which eventually reveals the secret of creating Soul Gems; unscrupulous human scientists then utilize the powers of Soul Gems to create Ars Magus and Sentient Weapons. The Nox Nyctores are all sentient, and affect the mind of the user in negative ways, because they contain the souls of Magical Girls {{spoiler|and therefore collect despair in the same way.}}

* {{spoiler|He then get's them into situations where they reach their [[Despair Event Horizon]] thus turning them into Eldritch Horrors which cause Human Suffering }} and thus [[For the Evulz|amuses]] him.

* His goal for creating {{spoiler|the Ultimate Witch}} is actually a ploy...to awaken the Great Old Ones from their earthly tombs, with {{spoiler|Witch!Madoka}} as the catalyst.

* If he is Nyarlathotep, then he knows {{spoiler|that his "entropy" reason for doing what he does}} is a farce, as you know...he's Messenger to the LIVING CENTER of the UNIVERSE and all. He just crafts this reason as a a method to give a reason to what he does that won't [[Go Mad From the Revelation|destroy their mind]], and most teenage girls aren't knowledgeable enough in that field to call him out on it.

* Nyarlathotep has over 1,000 forms, the Mythos barely covers a 100 if that. It makes sense for him to have a form like this to make deals with mortals less difficult.

[[Alternate Continuity|Both Father Nier and Brother Nier.]] They're sometimes the same person, and sometimes not. (That sorta thing happens [[Place Beyond Time|outside Space and Time]].) When "both" Niers [[Ret-Gone]]'d him/themself to save Kaine; this got Goddess Madoka's attention.

** Nier is a rare male helper in Magical Girl Valhalla; but he doesn't mind if it means his daughter/sister Yonah will have a peaceful place to go. Madoka's a good kid, anyways.

Both soul gems and Exspheres hold the consciousness/souls of people. Both of them can turn their users in to monsters/witches if untreated. Both of them provide power boosts to their users.

** {{spoiler|She also shares some similarities with Odin, and by extension, Shiro. Powers over time? Check. [[Flash Step]]? Check. Constantly resetting time to get the ending she wants? Check.}}

*** {{spoiler|And perhaps the closest comparison to Shiro ever, she accepts Madoka's death much like how Shiro accepted Yui's death in the finale to get [[Bittersweet Ending]].}}

** She also shares traits with Ryuga. Much like how Ryuga desires Ryuki [[Fusion Dance|to be one with him,]] Homura desires Madoka to be one with her... [[Les Yay|in the fan-interpreted way.]]

** She also shares some traits with Raia in which she is one of the nicest Magical Girls besides Madoka much like Raia being one of the nicest riders besides Ryuki ( {{spoiler|Okay, save for that one timeline in #10 but you get the idea}}) and is a [[Big Brother Mentor]] compared to Raia.

** She is also compared to Zolda. A [[Jerkass]] who often butt heads with Knight.

** There is also the wish thing. Magical Girls make a wish and receive Magical Girl powers. Kamen Riders on the other hand get their wish after they murder twelve other riders.

** There are also some resemblances with the American adaptation, [[Kamen Rider Dragon Knight]]. Kyubey is essentially a cute version of Xaviax: both take advantage of the magical girls'/Riders' moments of despair for their granting of wishes, and both [[Manipulative Bastard|play them like fiddles]]. Plus, Madoka and Kit both have [[Super-Powered Evil Side|Superpowered Evil Sides]] -- {{spoiler|Kriemhild Gretchen for Madoka and Kamen Rider Onyx for Kit, though the latter was actually just Dragredder taking control of Kit in his dreams.}}

* There is also an [[Kamen Rider OOO|OOO]] resemblance. {{spoiler|Kyubei is Ankh if he actually succeeded in fooling Eiji to being his tool. [[Harsher in Hindsight|And he's turning into a Greeed]], which is OOO's version of a Witch.}}

* AND NOW HE'S A WIZARD. His witch's kiss is The Dark Mark.

* He managed to keep his original Soul Gem (Horcrux) because he [[Magnificent Bastard|tricked Kyubey and blocked his power, so not all his soul was poured into the gem. He didn't want to relinquish control of the situation. He slew Witches and members of the Wizarding Community to seem like a normal Magical Guy (R.I.P Myrtle...) but learned how to make his own Soul Gems/Horcruxes and, wanting absolute immortality and invulnerability, did, evading Kyubey and killing more people, increasing his power.]] Unfortunately he 'matured' into a full-blown Witch after graduating from Hogwarts and became the [[Big Bad]] we all know today. He was able to retain human form and speech because of his alternate Soul Gems/Horcruxes.

Drosselmeyer was a author who could {{spoiler|[[Reality Warper|warp reality by writing stories.]]}} He loved writing stories depicting eternal tragedy and despair. After {{spoiler|getting his ties to Tutu's world cut off,}} he found a way to write such stories in the afterlife and decided to write Madoka Magica to make up for the "failure" of a story that was [[Princess Tutu]]. So far, he is very much succeeding where he failed the last time.

* You might be on to something. Kyubey also collects the energy created when Akuma are formed and when they evolve. Maybe the Noah are Magical People who managed to stay 'in between' Magic Girls and witches? Innocence are really Soul Gems too! Maybe Akuma and the Noah are all witches, too? But the Noah might be "evil" Magical People? Maybe Road designs all the Witch's Barriers, or they're all her different Dream Worlds?

More specifically, in one of the universes that was saved. However, despite being saved, the universe began dying, and thus a new "game" had to be created to save it.

* Speaking of Eldar, isn't their plot to create Ynnead basically their own version of Kriemhild Gretchen?

When the Witches existed; they exist as {{spoiler|tragic Magical Girls}} in their own personal Hell (their Barriers) where Entropy (also known as Distortion or Chaos) and Negative Emotions can be condensed as fuel for physics-defying [[Psychic Powers]], essentially acting as smaller and more controllable versions of The Warp. However, knowing that Madoka's wish {{spoiler|prevented every Witch in the past, present and future from ever existing}}, all the homeless shards of Entropy [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|have no choice but to gain sapience themselves and pave a new source of Despair, called Daemons.]] Sure the daemons are less forgivable (and in fact, less powerful: if [[Grand Finale|Episode 12]] is to be believed.) than Witches, since witches {{spoiler|are tragic Magical Girls}}, while daemons are made from wandering Chaos, but fast-forward to the events of pre-40k (expansion of the human population to trillions, the Horus Heresy, Birth of Slaanesh, and the Eye of Terror as a whole) and you can see what the daemons have become, i.e., the Ruinous Powers of Chaos, with their own Hell/Witch Barrier (The Warp, or [[Hyperspace Is a Scary Place]]).

== Kyubey is from [[Doctor Who/Recap/S18 E7/E07 Logopolis|Logopolis]] ==

** Kyuubey was made by Yumemi Okazaki.

Kyubey has Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. Homura has [[Za Warudo]] or Made In Heaven. Mami has Sex Pistols. Madoka might get Gold Experience Requiem.

== [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica|Kyubee]] is a [[Okami|Japanese Brush God]]. ==

* Or the Brush Gods plus Ammy dear are Incubators. Just the emotional/benevolent/mentally unstable kind. In line with the TSAB theory down below, when in doubt blame Belka. Maybe they're some form of modified familiar and the reason they're not active in the present is because they've been cut off from whatever energy source the blasted weasels have. They did have spaceships in that game after all... and now I have plotbunny.

Yes. I've just completely destroyed Nanoha's [[Powered by a Forsaken Child|noble intentions]] for about [[Ten-Minute Retirement|one episode]].

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The Jewel Seeds, massively powerful [[Lost Technology]] that collapsed dimensional walls and turned people into monsters because the safety settings were lost. Sounds familiar?

Human mages have always been rare; no matter what era or dimension. In one of the old worlds; the war with their neighbors was all but lost. All of their active mages were dead; and while some of their familiars were left; they were about to die/lose sentience without their masters. A few people who were given command altered the familiars. They no longer required masters to exist; they could create multiple bodies, and their job was to create mages and energy to "save their universe." (The reprogrammers were dramatic and patriotic) The war had cost most of the adults; and women were more prone to magic than men so they focused on them for logistical purposes. These Familiars would Incubate the next generation of Mages. It was decided that the best way to ensure loyalty would be to program them to be emotionless and be only dedicated to their goal.

The familiars, now the Incubators, viewed this as a complete success. The remaining witches were "safe" from the old world's enemies. They left the dimension; to fulfill their programming. To save the universe by creating magical energy.

The TSAB considers the Kyubey to be Alpha-level threats and they are to be destroyed upon discovery via Arc N Ciel.

* In any universe affected by Madoka's wish; most of this story is still true. Any time the old world lost a battle with its new mages; the opponent could never hold that area for long due to Demons that sprang up due to weakening world walls to the Spirit World (where Summons come from). The Puella Magi could not keep up a war against their countries enemies and their own Demons; and they died. One of the last Puella Magi of that world made a wish to send all their non-mage population offworld. The Incubators still escaped through their own means. Planetary destruction of worlds visited by them is still possible due to Demons, but far less likely.

* Most TSAB believe that the process doesn't create demons, but rather opens gateways to a [[Layered World]] where emotional states have physical form. Usually the TSAB prefer to strengthen the dimensional barrier; there is debate on whether relying on beating [[The Heartless|physical manifestations of negative emotions]] is healthy; as it bypasses people and society from naturally addressing their own issues.

Night On Bald Mountain takes place around Walpurgis Night, where a powerful demon arises, much like in Madoka.

Either they share the same source(Everything has to be balanced in the end) or either of them outright stealed the technique from one another.

It explains virtually everything about Slendy: static has been used at least once in the anime in relation to witches; the world warps when Slendy is near because the viewer is caught within its labyrinth; many of the strange things that happen can be caused by a Witch's mark. It probably made a wish related to protecting children.

Kyubey states that the most efficient sources of energy are adolescent girls, but rarely, a male demonstrates a sufficient level of emotional turmoil that they are selected by Kyube to be granted a wish. All of these wishes, by virtue of the extreme emotional distress required to be chosen, involve leaving their own life, and going somewhere else, anywhere else.

With this in mind, the men who make these wishes are transported to Nirn, another dimension that is not bound by quite the same laws as our own, due to the presence of gods(The Nine Divines, Daedra, etc.).

Humanity returned to form from the Tang and rebuilt its society...however, their capacity for arrogance, pride, [[Humans Are Bastards|bastardry]] and schadenfreude remained, creating Madoka's cruel world where idealism and belief in man's better nature only ever comes at a horrible cost.

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In a similar vein, Puella Magi Madoka Magica is an extremely efficient emotional energy collection mechanism. Why spend the effort to draw energy from a couple of little girls at a time, when you can get energy from a much wider range through television? The reason why he tried to hide his involvement was just to heighten the hope we'd all feel to boost the effects of the slow dive into despair.

== Kyuubei is [[wikipedia:Maxwellchr(27)Maxwell's demon|Maxwell's Demon.]] ==

* Jossed, thankfully. By and large, the finale was very well-received.

Well with all the [[Intellectual Property Religion|Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[Messianic Archetype|Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[Fan Nickname|Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[Haruhi Suzumiya|an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially in the original timeline Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.

[[Aya Hirano]] and [[Michael Jackson]] are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' or other cheerful TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life ([[Typecasting]], [[Slave to PR]], [[Artist Disillusionment]], being virtually [[Unwitting Pawn|whored out all the time]] by [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Corrupt Corporate Executives]] who [[Executive Meddling|always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[Never Live It Down|eternal]] [[Fallen Creator|damnation]] by the [[Fan Dumb]], not even being able to avoid said eternal damnation due to accusations about scandals...) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).

You may know already that even if you're a rich popular celebrity you will still be able to fall into [[Despair Event Horizon]] (hence [[Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll|reckless hedonism]] or [[Driven to Suicide|suicide]]), and are in fact more susceptible to it, but most people may never notice because of the "[[No Such Thing as Bad Publicity|all kinds of fame]]=money=anything you want" imagery. What's worse is that when you do fall into [[Despair Event Horizon]] the executives will whore you out even more (paparazzi, [[Dead Artists Are Better]], etc.) thus more money for them, and they don't even have to pay you back since there will be more suckers who want to emulate your fame and wealth (this parallels how Incubators extract even more energy from magical girls falling to [[Despair Event Horizon]] and turning into witches, which in turn creates increasing demand for more willing magical girls to outshine said witches). Just like how if you're a Magical Girl you can get anything you want, and everyone sees you as a hero, but unfortunately deep down you're just a zombie who's reduced into nothing more than a glorified furniture of the Incubators. Also, according to [[Music Is Politics/Analysis|Music Is Politics]]:

With the rise of agriculture/industrialism, establishment of cities, increasingly stratified societies, and insatiable mass consumerism, humanity's capacity for empathy decreased, while raw [[Ambition Is Evil|sociopathy, opportunism, greed and ambition]] built up to critical mass. Today, idealistic themes we saw all the time in Magical Girl shows, such as [[The Power of Love]], are [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids|nothing more than a marketing ploy]] for the dominant ruler of the world, [[Screw the Rules, I Have Money|The Power Of]] [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Love For Material Wealth]].