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A hero or group of heroes (often oddly similar to your own [[Player Party]]) that arose in the hour of need and [[Sealed Evil in a Can|sealed the]] [[Ultimate Evil]] [[Sealed Evil in a Can|in its can]] [[Exty Years From Now|1,000 years ago]]. Often shows up in [[As Long as There Is Evil]] or similar scenario (like the aforementioned [[Sealed Evil in a Can]]) where the evil recurs. May be the sire of the hero's [[Heroic Lineage]] and original bearer of the [[Ancestral Weapon]]. Contrast [[Predecessor Villain]].
A hero or group of heroes (often oddly similar to your own [[Player Party]]) that arose in the hour of need and [[Sealed Evil in a Can|sealed the]] [[Ultimate Evil]] [[Sealed Evil in a Can|in its can]] [[Exty Years From Now|1,000 years ago]]. Often shows up in [[As Long as There Is Evil]] or similar scenario (like the aforementioned [[Sealed Evil in a Can]]) where the evil recurs. May be the sire of the hero's [[Heroic Lineage]] and original bearer of the [[Ancestral Weapon]]. Contrast [[Predecessor Villain]].

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== Anime & Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* In ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' it's revealed that the heroes weren't the first group of digidestined.
* In ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' it's revealed that the heroes weren't the first group of digidestined.
** In ''[[Digimon Frontier]]'', Lucemon was sealed by a group of 10 ancient heroes.
** In ''[[Digimon Frontier]]'', Lucemon was sealed by a group of 10 ancient heroes.
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* ''[[Heartcatch Pretty Cure]]'' establishes that there were many other Cures that had their own adventures long before the four main heroines did. Only two of their forerunners were actually shown (although others appeared in the form of anonymous statues) -- the heroine's grandmother, formerly known as Cure Flower, is a mentor to the team, while Cure Angie, who was active four hundred years ago and is stated to be the first Cure in history, briefly appears in the movie.
* ''[[Heartcatch Pretty Cure]]'' establishes that there were many other Cures that had their own adventures long before the four main heroines did. Only two of their forerunners were actually shown (although others appeared in the form of anonymous statues) -- the heroine's grandmother, formerly known as Cure Flower, is a mentor to the team, while Cure Angie, who was active four hundred years ago and is stated to be the first Cure in history, briefly appears in the movie.
** This doubles as a [[Mythology Gag]], as there really ''were'' [[Futari wa Pretty Cure|other]] [[Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star|Cures]] [[Yes! Pretty Cure 5|having]] [[Fresh Pretty Cure|adventures]] before the ''Heartcatch'' heroines.
** This doubles as a [[Mythology Gag]], as there really ''were'' [[Futari wa Pretty Cure|other]] [[Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star|Cures]] [[Yes! Pretty Cure 5|having]] [[Fresh Pretty Cure|adventures]] before the ''Heartcatch'' heroines.



== Films -- Animation ==
== Films -- Animation ==
* ''[[The Beatles]]''' animated ''[[Yellow Submarine]]'' has the original Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as [[Sealed Good in a Can]]. Probably suggested by the Sgt Pepper album cover where the waxwork Beatles in their mid-1960s suits are looking at the real ones in their Sgt Pepper outfits.
* ''[[The Beatles]]''' animated ''[[Yellow Submarine]]'' has the original Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as [[Sealed Good in a Can]]. Probably suggested by the Sgt Pepper album cover where the waxwork Beatles in their mid-1960s suits are looking at the real ones in their Sgt Pepper outfits.



== Live-Action TV ==
== Live-Action TV ==
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** The previous 34 teams became precursor heroes in ''[[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger]]''. They drove the Zangyack away from Earth by sacrificing their powers to create a huge explosion. The powers were eventually collected by AkaRed, Basco, and Marvelous, before being used by the Gokaiger team.
** The previous 34 teams became precursor heroes in ''[[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger]]''. They drove the Zangyack away from Earth by sacrificing their powers to create a huge explosion. The powers were eventually collected by AkaRed, Basco, and Marvelous, before being used by the Gokaiger team.


== Tabletop Games ==
* The Board Game ''[[Heroquest]]'' gives the names of the 4 heroes who defeated the villain Zargon years ago, and specifically states that the players are trying to live up to the example.


== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
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* Most ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' games have them. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130917125440/http://serenesforest.net/general/heroes.htm Summarized on this fan site.]
* Most ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' games have them. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130917125440/http://serenesforest.net/general/heroes.htm Summarized on this fan site.]
* In ''[[Overlord (series)|Overlord]]'' it's given a twist; they're the antagonists who defeated your predecessor {{spoiler|and you were part of the [[Nakama|group]]}}.
* In ''[[Overlord (series)|Overlord]]'' it's given a twist; they're the antagonists who defeated your predecessor {{spoiler|and you were part of the [[Nakama|group]]}}.
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker]]'''s Hero of Time (the main character of ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'').
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker]]'''s Hero of Time (the main character of ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]'').
** And ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess]]'', where the Shade is also implied to have been a previous hero (again, [[Word of God|confirmed]] to be ''Ocarina'''s).
** And ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess]]'', where the Shade is also implied to have been a previous hero (again, [[Word of God|confirmed]] to be ''Ocarina'''s).
** In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap|The Legend of Zelda the Minish Cap]]'', "The Hero of Men" is mentioned in the legend at the beginning of the game.
** In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap]]'', "The Hero of Men" is mentioned in the legend at the beginning of the game.
* In ''[[Tales of Symphonia]]'', you have Mithos' party: {{spoiler|Mithos, Martel, Yuan, and Kratos}}. By the time the game actually takes place though, only Mithos is remembered at all, and not for what he actually did ({{spoiler|probably because he twisted the truth to fit his made-up religion}}). Well, ''technically'' people remember {{spoiler|"the goddess" Martel}}, too...
* In ''[[Tales of Symphonia]]'', you have Mithos' party: {{spoiler|Mithos, Martel, Yuan, and Kratos}}. By the time the game actually takes place though, only Mithos is remembered at all, and not for what he actually did ({{spoiler|probably because he twisted the truth to fit his made-up religion}}). Well, ''technically'' people remember {{spoiler|"the goddess" Martel}}, too...
* In ''[[Tales of Phantasia]]'', there's the original party that defeated Dhaos in the past: [[Stable Time Loop|You end up going back in time and replacing these people]].
* In ''[[Tales of Phantasia]]'', there's the original party that defeated Dhaos in the past: [[Stable Time Loop|You end up going back in time and replacing these people]].
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* The Council of the Nine in ''[[Lusternia]]''. They were the [[Physical God|Vernal Gods]] who originally sealed away the five great Soulless Gods. They stand sentinel today as [[Fusion Dance|Avechna the Avenger]], and are periodically reawoken if a Soulless manages to [[Sealed Evil in a Can|seep out]] of its prison.
* The Council of the Nine in ''[[Lusternia]]''. They were the [[Physical God|Vernal Gods]] who originally sealed away the five great Soulless Gods. They stand sentinel today as [[Fusion Dance|Avechna the Avenger]], and are periodically reawoken if a Soulless manages to [[Sealed Evil in a Can|seep out]] of its prison.
* The four Nord heroes who originally sealed Alduin away in ''[[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim]]''.
* The four Nord heroes who originally sealed Alduin away in ''[[The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim]]''.



== Web Comics ==
== Web Comics ==
* The Order of the Scribble from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]''.
* The Order of the Scribble from ''[[The Order of the Stick]]''.
* ''[[Homestuck]]'' has a whole chain of these. The pre-Scratch trolls reset reality, thereby becoming Precursor Heroes to the post-scratch trolls both in and out of Paradox Space. The trolls themselves become Precursor Heroes to the kids by creating their reality... who they then team up with, because Paradox Space is [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]. The kids then reset reality, becoming precursor heroes to a new set of kids.
* ''[[Homestuck]]'' has a whole chain of these. The pre-Scratch trolls reset reality, thereby becoming Precursor Heroes to the post-scratch trolls both in and out of Paradox Space. The trolls themselves become Precursor Heroes to the kids by creating their reality... who they then team up with, because Paradox Space is [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]. The kids then reset reality, becoming precursor heroes to a new set of kids.



== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
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** One episode began in prehistoric times, depicting a trio of Powerpuff Cavegirls who accidentally [[Sealed Evil in a Can|sealed the bad guy and his mammoth in ice]] until he was thawed out in the present day. There was a prehistoric Mayor as well.
** One episode began in prehistoric times, depicting a trio of Powerpuff Cavegirls who accidentally [[Sealed Evil in a Can|sealed the bad guy and his mammoth in ice]] until he was thawed out in the present day. There was a prehistoric Mayor as well.
** And [[Discontinuity|should we forget]] the Steampuff Girls, who battled the Mojo Kid in the Old West?
** And [[Discontinuity|should we forget]] the Steampuff Girls, who battled the Mojo Kid in the Old West?
* ''[[Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated|Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated]]'' reveals that another group of teens called Mystery Inc. existed before Scooby and the gang, until they mysteriously vanished. Fred likes the name enough to adopt it, and the main plot of the series is finding out what happened to them. As of this writing, we only know what happened to their [[Team Pet]], Professor Pericles. [[Nightmare Fuel|He's...changed.]]
* ''[[Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated]]'' reveals that another group of teens called Mystery Inc. existed before Scooby and the gang, until they mysteriously vanished. Fred likes the name enough to adopt it, and the main plot of the series is finding out what happened to them. As of this writing, we only know what happened to their [[Team Pet]], Professor Pericles. [[Nightmare Fuel|He's...changed.]]
** We now know {{spoiler|Pericles and Fred Jones Senior ran them out of town by threatening their parents. Now Ricky (Shaggy counterpart) is the somewhat sinister Mr. E; Cassidy (Velma counterpart) is the current team's secretive associate Angel Dynamite; and Brad and Judy (Fred and Daphne counterparts) are Fred's real parents}}.
** We now know {{spoiler|Pericles and Fred Jones Senior ran them out of town by threatening their parents. Now Ricky (Shaggy counterpart) is the somewhat sinister Mr. E; Cassidy (Velma counterpart) is the current team's secretive associate Angel Dynamite; and Brad and Judy (Fred and Daphne counterparts) are Fred's real parents}}.



== Board Games ==
* The Board Game Heroquest gives the names of the 4 heroes who defeated the villain Zargon years ago, and specifically states that the players are trying to live up to the example.


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A hero or group of heroes (often oddly similar to your own Player Party) that arose in the hour of need and sealed the Ultimate Evil in its can 1,000 years ago. Often shows up in As Long as There Is Evil or similar scenario (like the aforementioned Sealed Evil in a Can) where the evil recurs. May be the sire of the hero's Heroic Lineage and original bearer of the Ancestral Weapon. Contrast Predecessor Villain.

Examples of Precursor Heroes include:


Anime and Manga

  • In Digimon Adventure it's revealed that the heroes weren't the first group of digidestined.
  • One episode of Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z showed that there were analogues to the girls in the Edo period that sealed Him away in a volcano.
  • Heartcatch Pretty Cure establishes that there were many other Cures that had their own adventures long before the four main heroines did. Only two of their forerunners were actually shown (although others appeared in the form of anonymous statues) -- the heroine's grandmother, formerly known as Cure Flower, is a mentor to the team, while Cure Angie, who was active four hundred years ago and is stated to be the first Cure in history, briefly appears in the movie.

Films -- Animation

  • The Beatles' animated Yellow Submarine has the original Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as Sealed Good in a Can. Probably suggested by the Sgt Pepper album cover where the waxwork Beatles in their mid-1960s suits are looking at the real ones in their Sgt Pepper outfits.

Live-Action TV

  • The earlier Seekers, such as Kieran, on Legend of the Seeker. Subverted when it turns out that Kieran betrayed his quest and had to be Sealed in a Can himself... though the way in which he did it (having sex with his Confessor) just makes the parallels with Richard more obvious.
  • Several Power Rangers teams turn out to not be the first like them (though they would often be the first to use Ranger powers). Details about them tend to be left pretty vague, except in a few cases.
  • On the Super Sentai side of things, the core 5 of Gosei Sentai Dairanger are distant descendants or, in the case of Ryo, not quite so distant of the five Dai Tribe warriors who originally fought the Gorma thousands of years ago. These original Dairangers were destroyed when the red one was seduced over to the Gorma side and led the others into a trap. The traitor red ventured into the human world for a while in the modern era and sired the boy who would become the red of his time, and eventually redeemed himself.
    • The previous 34 teams became precursor heroes in Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger. They drove the Zangyack away from Earth by sacrificing their powers to create a huge explosion. The powers were eventually collected by AkaRed, Basco, and Marvelous, before being used by the Gokaiger team.

Tabletop Games

  • The Board Game Heroquest gives the names of the 4 heroes who defeated the villain Zargon years ago, and specifically states that the players are trying to live up to the example.

Video Games

Web Comics

  • The Order of the Scribble from The Order of the Stick.
  • Homestuck has a whole chain of these. The pre-Scratch trolls reset reality, thereby becoming Precursor Heroes to the post-scratch trolls both in and out of Paradox Space. The trolls themselves become Precursor Heroes to the kids by creating their reality... who they then team up with, because Paradox Space is Exactly What It Says on the Tin. The kids then reset reality, becoming precursor heroes to a new set of kids.

Western Animation

  • The Powerpuff Girls
    • One episode began in prehistoric times, depicting a trio of Powerpuff Cavegirls who accidentally sealed the bad guy and his mammoth in ice until he was thawed out in the present day. There was a prehistoric Mayor as well.
    • And should we forget the Steampuff Girls, who battled the Mojo Kid in the Old West?
  • Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated reveals that another group of teens called Mystery Inc. existed before Scooby and the gang, until they mysteriously vanished. Fred likes the name enough to adopt it, and the main plot of the series is finding out what happened to them. As of this writing, we only know what happened to their Team Pet, Professor Pericles. He's...changed.
    • We now know Pericles and Fred Jones Senior ran them out of town by threatening their parents. Now Ricky (Shaggy counterpart) is the somewhat sinister Mr. E; Cassidy (Velma counterpart) is the current team's secretive associate Angel Dynamite; and Brad and Judy (Fred and Daphne counterparts) are Fred's real parents.