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{{quote|''"AN: And there you have it folks. Let me know what you thought. Disturbing? Funny? Moving? Or maybe all three. I don't even know if this would make it to an R rating. Fuck, damn, shit, bitch, hell. There, now it's an R fic."''|''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/713671/1/ A Pong Lemon]'', by '''[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/178735/Prince_Janus Prince Janus]'''}}
 
So you've got a series or whatever where the characters rarely say anything stronger than "hell" or "damn", or swear in [[Unusual Euphemism|Unusual Euphemisms]]s or [[Future Slang]], or even do swear more strongly but [[Precision F-Strike|infrequently.]]
 
Then along come the [[Fanfic]] writers, and suddenly everyone's dropping [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F Bombs]] left, right and centre. There seems to be this idea that you have to have this in an R-rated story. No matter that it's already got more than enough [[Porn Without Plot|sex]] and [[Dark Fic|violence]] to justify the R, the [['''Obligatory Swearing]]''' is [[Shaped Like Itself|obligatory]]. Also happens to some extent in PG13-rated fics. [[Fridge Logic]] ensues when characters swear more strongly than they do in canon in situations less upsetting than they've actually been through, and seeing ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants]]'' or ''[[The Fairly Odd ParentsOddParents]]'' dropping a [[Cluster F-Bomb]] is nothing if not jarring.
So you've got a series or whatever where the characters rarely say anything stronger than "hell" or "damn", or swear in [[Unusual Euphemism|Unusual Euphemisms]] or [[Future Slang]], or even do swear more strongly but [[Precision F-Strike|infrequently.]]
 
[[Spice Up the Subtitles|A variation]] occurs in [[Fan Sub|Fan Subs]]s, in which either a word has multiple translations and the subbers go for the stronger one, or simply adding swearing where there wasn't any to cover up the fact that they're [[Blind Idiot Translation|not as fluent in Japanese as they'd like us to think.]]
Then along come the [[Fanfic]] writers, and suddenly everyone's dropping [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F Bombs]] left, right and centre. There seems to be this idea that you have to have this in an R-rated story. No matter that it's already got more than enough [[Porn Without Plot|sex]] and [[Dark Fic|violence]] to justify the R, the [[Obligatory Swearing]] is [[Shaped Like Itself|obligatory]]. Also happens to some extent in PG13-rated fics. [[Fridge Logic]] ensues when characters swear more strongly than they do in canon in situations less upsetting than they've actually been through, and seeing ''[[SpongeBob SquarePants]]'' or ''[[The Fairly Odd Parents]]'' dropping a [[Cluster F-Bomb]] is nothing if not jarring.
 
[[Spice Up the Subtitles|A variation]] occurs in [[Fan Sub|Fan Subs]], in which either a word has multiple translations and the subbers go for the stronger one, or simply adding swearing where there wasn't any to cover up the fact that they're [[Blind Idiot Translation|not as fluent in Japanese as they'd like us to think.]]
 
This interacts interestingly with the [[Literary Agent Hypothesis]], if we view canon as the [[Politically-Correct History]] version of the story.
 
A subtrope of [[Darker and Edgier]]; this is to profanity what [[Hotter and Sexier]] is to sex and [[Bloodier and Gorier]] is to violence. Contrast [[Rated "G" for Gangsta]], in which a person or character who you would reasonably expect to swear doesn't. Sometimes done to [[Avoid the Dreaded G Rating]]. If the swearing occurs only once or twice, it's a [[Precision F-Strike]].
 
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=== [[Fan Works|Fan-created examples]] ===
* Almost every fanfic based around adult or teenage characters will have at least some usage of fuck and shit, most likely in an attempt to sound "realistic".
* Go to [[Fanfiction.net]], set the filter to display M-rated stories only, and take your pick. After filtering all the [[Lemon|Lemons]], of course.
** Possibly ''including'' the [[Lemon|Lemons]], depending on how much vulgarity is used in the [[IKEA Erotica|descriptions of the act.]]
* ''[[My Immortal]]'' gives us possibly the most insane, surreal and [[Out of Character]] example of this trope imaginable, quoted above. This is not to mention the frequent ''misspelling'' of non-profane words as profanities.
{{quote|"It was...... {{spoiler|Cornelio Fuck!}}"}}
** Hint: If [[Deadpan Snarker|Snap]] has uttered five lines and already used two obscenities, and the situation is anything less shocking than [[Endofthe World As We Know It]] or Potter becoming Snape's direct superior (or ''possibly'' the line "[[Luke, You Are My Father|She has]] [[Who's Your Daddy?|your eyes]]")... you probably don't know how to write Snape.
*** ''[[The Girl Who Lived]]'' series has a lot more swearing. A ''lot''. Rose loves to lace her [[Narm|narmful]] speeches with profanity. And this is a [[Fix Fic]], so...the author apparently thought that Harry should have swore more.
* One fic averted this by using mild profanity but the author went back at a later date and changed most of them (except one "damn" that actually worked with the scene) to [[Unusual Euphemism|"more in-character, colorful world-based profanity."]]
* There is [[Ho Yay|Bert/Ernie]] slash in which the dialogue is [[Cluster F-Bomb|composed mainly of]] swearing. As mentioned, it is extremely jarring to hear ''[[Sesame Street]]'' characters swear for no reason other than sounding "mature". Guess they picked up some habits from their friend The Count.
* So much ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' fanfiction includes swearing, even though the books don't. This isn't because the book characters ''don't'' swear, but because they swear using ''feline profanitites''. So it seems ''really'' out of place when, in a fanfic, someone yells "shit!" or calls someone a "bastard" while in the original novels they would have used "fox dung!" or called them a "fox-hearted traitor".
** Probably the most painful example of this in fanfic would be a oneshot which features a kit using the word "fuck " ''[[Cluster F-Bomb|in every line of dialogue]]''. That's right, ''a kit''.
* Soichiro Yagami of [[Light and Dark - The Adventures of Dark Yagami|Light and Dark The Adventures of Dark Yagami]], in addition to being almost [[Ax Crazy]], swears quite often ("Die you [[Rouge Angles of Satin|pies]] of shit!" to L). To say nothing of {{spoiler|God. Yes, '''God'''}}
* Danced about in the [[Dark Secrets|Jaidenverse]], a [[Darker and Edgier]] reimagining of the ''[[Harry Potter]]'' universe, in which the swearing is stronger and more frequent but c-nsored l-ke th-s.
* [[My Inner Life]] features this, among [[Mary Sue|many]], ''[[Porn Without Plot|many]]'' other flaws.
* [[Cori Falls]]'s fics suffer greatly from this as well as [[Tourettes Shitcock Syndrome]].
* ''[[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]]'' has this quite often, but it gets [[Up to Eleven|even worse]] in the Author's notes.
* ''[[Hunting the Unicorn (Fanfic)|Hunting the Unicorn]]'' subverts this. It's a [[Glee]] fanfic written in a very traditional style, but the Warblers swear ''a lot'' more than they do in canon. It seems more due to the fact that they're a group of teenaged guys who take everything [[Serious Business|quite seriously]] rather than an attempt to make things more adult, and they mostly use [[Precision F-Strike|Precision F Strikes]] that are [[Sophisticated As Hell]]. In fact, the author rates it ''Teen'' instead of R, and the most she does is give a warning for people who dislike heavy swearing.
* The /tg/-created [[Warhammer 40000]] Angry Marine chapter is practically defined by this trope. Even their battle cry shows it: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOUUUUU!!!!
* "[[Ron the Death Eater|Ronald Fucking Weasley]]" is described as a "shit wizard" in the first chapter of ''[[In This World and the Next]]'', and this sets the tone for the rest of the fic.
* [[Reconciliation]] has [[Katawa Shoujo|Hanako]] using quite a bit of profanity in her first-person narration, albeit none in her actual dialogue. Other characters' use of profanity is more reasonable; Akira uses some profanity, and Lilly, as in canon, limits herself to a single [[Precision F-Strike]] {{spoiler|after her husband Hisao's funeral}}.
* ''[[How I Became Yours]]'' has a fair amount, which is especially jarring considering that it's based on a children's show.
{{quote|'''Katara''': Not a fucking chance! I can't [[Rouge Angles of Satin|what]] until I see you put up for a trial! Post on death row!<br />
'''Mai''': Not today... Princess, the day will be painted red with your death... (attacks Katara, but she escapes) Get back here!!! You can't run from me you little bitch!! }}
 
=== "[[Canon|Official]]" Examples: ===
 
== [[Anime]] ==
* Early English-language dubs of [[Anime]] tended to use this trope to help "prove" that the audience wasn't watching "kiddy cartoons". The UK distributor [[Manga Entertainment]] was particularly infamous for this.
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** Somewhat justified with the early episodes, especially Sanji's introduction episodes, because his [[Catch Phrase]] is commonly translated as either "shit" or "crap."
** Another theory is that the swearing was meant to separate Funimation's translation from the infamously kiddie [[4Kids! Entertainment]] version.
** On the subs for Episode 432, the inmates' nickname for Magellan is "Shit Man" (likely derived from his spending hours every day in the bathroom with diarrhea), and they say it '''over and over''' in that scene.
* ''[[Initial D]]'': When Keisuke encounters Takumi in episode 1, when he sees the car he's driving, Keisuke goes, "An [[AE 86]]? No fucking way!" The official dub and sub translate it to, "That's an [[AE 86]]. You got to be kidding me!" Aside from that, with the exception of Bunta encouraging Takumi to beat the pants off a smart ass kid, the translation is pretty accurate.
* ''[[Ultimo]]'' scanlations often use quite a bit of foul language; [https://web.archive.org/web/20090907120228/http://www.onemanga.com/ULTIMO/7/29/ Vice uses "fucking"] '''five times in one page''', and Present!Yamato often swears, too.
* Fan translations of Nnoitra's dialogue in ''[[Bleach]]'' are often rife with [[Obligatory Swearing]].
** Justified in that his character really doesn't care about anything or anybody outside of being a superior fighter, which makes his potty mouth all the funnier when {{spoiler|Nel}} throws his AND {{spoiler|Nel}}'s own Cero back at him and all he can say in reaction "Aw...shit!"
* Vita tends to get [[Obligatory Swearing]] in ''[[Lyrical Nanoha]]'' fan translations, fanfiction and even the A's dub, as a result of often using "Kuso" and having a fairly rude way of talking. (like when she screams "WHAT'D YOU SAY, BITCH?" at Nanoha in chapter 7 of the manga)
* The Manga Video dub of ''[[Lupin III]]: [[The Castle of Cagliostro|The Castleof Cagliostro]]'' was sprinkled with profanity that never existed in the original subtitled version (to the disappointment of fans who had wanted to show it to their kids). The title was considerably lighter than almost every other anime in Manga's stable, perhaps prompting the dubbers to try to make it [[Darker and Edgier]].
* ''[[Bakuman。]]'' fan translations sometimes have this, and as of Volume 3, the Viz translation is moving toward this. It (and some fan translations) has Takagi calling a character in the in-universe series St. Visual Girls' Academy who coldly brushes aside Azuki's character's [[Love Confession]] a "bitch", and Fukuda complaining about Yujiro being "half-assed" in not making Eiji meet with him, and Yujiro accusing Yoshida of thinking himself "hot shit" over Otter 11's popularity.
* The fan translation of the ''[[Metroid]]'' manga contains six swear words in the first chapter alone.
* In ''[[MaiMy-HiME]]'', Natsuki and Nao's dialogue often contains profanity in fan translations. One of the more extreme examples is Nao telling Haruka to "shut the fuck up" in Chapter 18 of the manga.
* In a fan translation of ''[[Cardcaptor Sakura]]'', the phrase Sakura used to make Touya believe Kero was a puppet and she was doing a comedy routine was "What the hell? What the hell?". The [[Tokyo Pop]] translation used the more common "Fuggedaboutit" phrase.
* The old Anime Labs ''[[Manga Dragon Ball]] Z'' fansubs went ''way'' overboard. One of the most infamous examples, a line uttered by Vegeta after having his house destroyed, reads "You fucking bastard! You dare to destroy my house! Now you've really pissed me off! Fuck you!" in their translation, but the official (and much more accurate) [[FUNimation]] translation reads as "Smash up another man's house, will you?! I am in a foul mood today! Don't come too close, or you'll get burned!". It's the single example that fans in denial will cite in an attempt to prove their show is for adults, though they're doing nothing but proving otherwise. Another golden line is "Come out, you candy-ass faggot!", corrupted from "Where are you!? Come on out! You Coward! Show yourself!". Very mature.
* In one translation of the [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]] manga, [[Fiery Redhead|Kyouko]] uses [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F Bombs]] when she gets angry. For example, after wounding Sayaka in their first fight, she says "What the '''fuck''' was that about? You'd better keep your shit together, '''fuckhead'''." (emphasis theirs).
* The ''official'' manga translation of ''[[To Love LOVE-Ru]]'' in Spain has a lot of swearing for no reason, especially from ''Rito'', something about as [[Out of Character]] for him as it gets. The best example is one line with him saying "What's going on?" in the original becoming simply "Fuck!", not even "What the fuck is going on?" or something, just "Fuck!", like that. Since the translation also has quite a bit of [[Gratuitous Japanese]], it gives a "bad scanlation" vibe.
 
== [[Comics]] ==
* "The Goddamn Batman", The [[Memetic Mutation/Comics|fondly-remembered part]] of [[Frank Miller]]'s ''[[All Star Batman and Robin]]''.
* ''Countdown To Final Crisis'' had Mary Marvel (normally the cute kid sister of the DC Universe) go evil, then get a grip on herself and turn good... only to go evil again at the very end. In the final issue, she explained just who she was: "I'm Mary ''Damn'' Marvel."
 
=== [[Fan Works|Fan-created examples]] ===
* Almost every fanfic based around adult or teenage characters will have at least some usage of "fuck" and "shit", most likely in an attempt to sound "realistic".
* Go to [[Fanfiction.net]], set the filter to display M-rated stories only, and take your pick. After filtering all the [[Lemon|Lemons]]s, of course.
** Possibly ''including'' the [[Lemon|Lemons]]s, depending on how much vulgarity is used in the [[IKEA Erotica|descriptions of the act.]]
* ''[[My Immortal]]'' gives us possibly the most insane, surreal and [[Out of Character]] example of this trope imaginable, quoted above. This is not to mention the frequent ''misspelling'' of non-profane words as profanities.
{{quote|"It was...... {{spoiler|Cornelio Fuck!}}"}}
** Hint: If [[Deadpan Snarker|Snap]] has uttered five lines and already used two obscenities, and the situation is anything less shocking than [[EndoftheThe End of the World Asas We Know It]] or Potter becoming Snape's direct superior (or ''possibly'' the line "[[Luke, You Are My Father|She has]] [[Who's Your Daddy?|your eyes]]")... you probably don't know how to write Snape.
*** ''[[The Girl Who Lived]]'' series has a lot more swearing. A ''lot''. Rose loves to lace her [[Narm|narmfulnarm]]ful speeches with profanity. And this is a [[Fix Fic]], so...the author apparently thought that Harry should have swore more.
* One fic averted this by using mild profanity but the author went back at a later date and changed most of them (except one "damn" that actually worked with the scene) to [[Unusual Euphemism|"more in-character, colorful world-based profanity."]]
* There is [[Ho Yay|Bert/Ernie]] slash in which the dialogue is [[Cluster F-Bomb|composed mainly of]] swearing. As mentioned, it is extremely jarring to hear ''[[Sesame Street]]'' characters swear for no reason other than sounding "mature". Guess they picked up some habits from their friend The Count.
* So much ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' fanfiction includes swearing, even though the books don't. This isn't because the book characters ''don't'' swear, but because they swear using ''feline profanitites''. So it seems ''really'' out of place when, in a fanfic, someone yells "shit!" or calls someone a "bastard" while in the original novels they would have used "fox dung!" or called them a "fox-hearted traitor".
** Probably the most painful example of this in fanfic would be a oneshot which features a kit using the word "fuck " ''[[Cluster F-Bomb|in every line of dialogue]]''. That's right, ''a kit''.
* Soichiro Yagami of [[Light and Dark - The Adventures of Dark Yagami|Light and Dark The Adventures of Dark Yagami]], in addition to being almost [[Ax Crazy]], swears quite often ("Die you [[Rouge Angles of Satin|pies]] of shit!" to L). To say nothing of {{spoiler|God. Yes, '''God'''}}
* Danced about in the [[Dark Secrets|Jaidenverse]], a [[Darker and Edgier]] reimagining of the ''[[Harry Potter]]'' universe, in which the swearing is stronger and more frequent but c-nsored l-ke th-s.
* [[My Inner Life]] features this, among [[Mary Sue|many]], ''[[Porn Without Plot|many]]'' other flaws.
* [[Cori Falls]]'s fics suffer greatly from this as well as [[TourettesTourette's Shitcock Syndrome]].
* ''[[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]]'' has this quite often, but it gets [[Up to Eleven|even worse]] in the Author's notes.
* ''[[Hunting the Unicorn (Fanfic)|Hunting the Unicorn]]'' subverts this. It's a [[Glee]] fanfic written in a very traditional style, but the Warblers swear ''a lot'' more than they do in canon. It seems more due to the fact that they're a group of teenaged guys who take everything [[Serious Business|quite seriously]] rather than an attempt to make things more adult, and they mostly use [[Precision F-Strike|Precision F Strikes]] that are [[Sophisticated As Hell]]. In fact, the author rates it ''Teen'' instead of R, and the most she does is give a warning for people who dislike heavy swearing.
* The /tg/-created [[Warhammer 4000040,000]] Angry Marine chapter is practically defined by this trope. Even their battle cry shows it: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOUUUUU!!!!
* "[[Ron the Death Eater|Ronald Fucking Weasley]]" is described as a "shit wizard" in the first chapter of ''[[In This World and the Next]]'', and this sets the tone for the rest of the fic.
* [[Reconciliation]] has [[Katawa Shoujo|Hanako]] using quite a bit of profanity in her first-person narration, albeit none in her actual dialogue. Other characters' use of profanity is more reasonable; Akira uses some profanity, and Lilly, as in canon, limits herself to a single [[Precision F-Strike]] {{spoiler|after her husband Hisao's funeral}}.
* ''[[How I Became Yours]]'' has a fair amount, which is especially jarring considering that it's based on a children's show.
{{quote|'''Katara''': Not a fucking chance! I can't [[Rouge Angles of Satin|what]] until I see you put up for a trial! Post on death row!<br />
'''Mai''': Not today... Princess, the day will be painted red with your death... (attacks Katara, but she escapes) Get back here!!! You can't run from me you little bitch!! }}
* ''[https://www.wattpad.com/story/163260272-astral-journey-it's-complicated Astral Journey: It's Complicated]'' has quite of these though muffin was likely used to call someone a fool or idiot, as it was used to describe a [[Drunk Driver]]. Finally, most of the times is kept to a miminal thanks to the hospital setting. However, it also had this exchange in Part 6:
{{Quote|
"Oh... I was given a flatmate despite my dismay, claiming I was a flight risk. What the fuck they think I would be that." [[Spice Girls|Geri]] said.
It was quite a relief to hear some profanity in awhile. ''Hey, it breaks of the stress''.}}
 
== [[Film]] - Live Action ==
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== [[Literature]] ==
* Arguably ''[[Harry Potter and Thethe Deathly Hallows (novel)|Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]]'', in which it's possibly justified in that the characters are older and the stakes are higher than in any previous book in the series. The same can be said of [[Harry Potter (film)|the films]], simply because it's hard to translate "[[Narrative Profanity Filter|Ron cursed loudly]]" into film without having Ron ''actually'' curse loudly.
* Likewise some of the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' novels; [[The BBC]] actually threatened to withdraw the publisher's license if they continued with it.
** The [[Eighth Doctor Adventures]] play with this trope; the Doctor has [[Precision F-Strike|only cursed once]] out loud and [[Freaky Friday|while himself]], but almost all the other characters occasionally swear, although the f-bomb usually only appears in the form of a [[Curse Cut Short]].
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Torchwood]]'', as part of trying to be [[Darker and Edgier]] than ''[[Doctor Who]]''. Only in the early first series though; by series 2 it had mostly been toned down to just "shit".
 
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** The game even made it into the ''Guinness World Records'' for being the most profane game ever. However, it was beaten a year later by ''Mafia II''.
* ''[[Samurai Shodown]]'': "Shit! You really make me mad!"
* The ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' series usually has very little swearing, just the occasional "damn" here and there. However, in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'', one of the radio conversations you can have is about a nightmare Sigint had about a giant walking turd that turns everything it shoots into shit, and ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' peppered in "fuck" and "shit" here and there.
* Similarly, in ''[[Assassin's Creed]] 2'', the second or third line out of Lucy's mouth is "Desmond, just shut the fuck up".
* ''Download'', a relatively obscure [[Turbo Grafx TurboGrafx-16]] shmup, has swearing in its game over messages: "I cannot fuck up for this" and "Shit, is not this a great beginning."
* The original ''[[Max Payne (series)|Max Payne]]'' had only mild to moderate swearing, the worst of which being the odd "goddammit." The sequel dropped this trend, being filled to the brim with [[Cluster F-Bomb|Cluster F-Bombs]]s.
* The 2009 ''[[Bionic Commando]]'' game, as ''[[Zero Punctuation]]'' sums up:
{{quote|''The first ''Bionic Commando'' was a characteristically wholesome Nintendo platformer that taught us simple moral lessons like "hook-shot arms are awesome" and "all Nazis should die," but the new ''Bionic Commando'' has taken the [[Darker and Edgier|dark and edgy]] route, meaning everyone says "fuck" like it's on their Word-of-the-Day calendar.''}}
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* [[Truth in Television]]: Junior high and high school, and elementary schoolers trying to look like junior high students. Thankfully the novelty seems to wear off considerably by college.
** Hilariously lampshaded in the film ''[[A Serious Man]]'', in which one (middle school-aged) character basically exists for the sole purpose of calling everyone and everything a "fucker".
* Google Translate, for Japanese anyway. Case point: it translates てめえ、a fairly rude form of "you" (see [[Japanese Pronouns]]) as "dickwad".
** It just translates to "Teme" now.
 
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