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{{quote|'''Bones''': Hey Lumpy, you know how we were talking about the other day how we're in ''every'' single solitary movie ever, the fat guy and the skinny guy who are both thugs?
{{quote|'''Bones''': Hey Lumpy, you know how we were talking about the other day how we're in ''every'' single solitary movie ever, the fat guy and the skinny guy who are both thugs?
'''Lumpy''': Yeah?
'''Lumpy''': Yeah?
'''Bones''': Do you think that's [[George Lucas Throwback|a throwback to classic character development]], or just [[Who Writes This Crap?|really shitty writing?]]
'''Bones''': Do you think that's [[George Lucas Throwback|a throwback to classic character development]], or just [[Who Writes This Crap?|really shitty writing?]]
'''Lumpy''': I pick the latter.
'''Lumpy''': I pick the latter.|'''[[The Nostalgia Critic]]'s''' [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/27905-nc-pound-puppies-the-movie review] of ''[[Pound Puppies|Pound Puppies and the Legend of Big Paw]]''}}
|'''[[The Nostalgia Critic]]'s''' [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/27905-nc-pound-puppies-the-movie review] of ''[[Pound Puppies|Pound Puppies and the Legend of Big Paw]]''}}


This is where a fat and a skinny character make up a two-character ensemble. This is usually a comedy trope, usually with the skinny character being the [[Straight Man]], although inversions of this are seen as well. Sometimes both characters are silly and this is often seen in the [[Terrible Trio]] type of villains, although there are also examples of heroic, or at least not villainous, pairs who fit this description. They often fit into the tropes of [[Those Two Guys]] or [[Those Two Bad Guys]].
This is where a fat and a skinny character make up a two-character ensemble. This is usually a comedy trope, usually with the skinny character being the [[Straight Man]], although inversions of this are seen as well. Sometimes both characters are silly and this is often seen in the [[Terrible Trio]] type of villains, although there are also examples of heroic, or at least not villainous, pairs who fit this description. They often fit into the tropes of [[Those Two Guys]] or [[Those Two Bad Guys]].
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== [[Anime]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* Tonzler and Boyacky, Doronjo's henchmen from ''[[Yatterman]]''. Well, strictly speaking Tonzler is a muscular [[Top-Heavy Guy]], but the effect is the same. Ditto their many [[Expy]] counterparts from the other [[Time Bokan]] series.
* Tonzler and Boyacky, Doronjo's henchmen from ''[[Yatterman]]''. Well, strictly speaking Tonzler is a muscular [[Top-Heavy Guy]], but the effect is the same. Ditto their many [[Expy]] counterparts from the other [[Time Bokan]] series.
* Nuk and Mok in ''[[Kemono no Souja Erin]]''.
* Nuk and Mok in ''[[Kemono no Souja Erin]]''.
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* Max and Thor in the film version of ''[[George of the Jungle]]''.
* Max and Thor in the film version of ''[[George of the Jungle]]''.
* Evan and Seth from ''[[Superbad]]''
* Evan and Seth from ''[[Superbad]]''
* Komatsu and Oyama from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407643/ Skinny and Fatty], which apparently cemented itself permanently in the minds of those who grew up in the late '50s.
* Komatsu and Oyama from ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407643/ Skinny and Fatty]'', which apparently cemented itself permanently in the minds of those who grew up in the 1950s and 60s, thanks in part to its appearance on the ''[[CBS Children's Film Festival]]''.



== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* [[Don Quixote]] and Sancho Panza
* [[Don Quixote]] and Sancho Panza
* Fred and Nobby, as well as Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg, from the ''[[Discworld]]'' books.
* Fred and Nobby, as well as Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg, from the ''[[Discworld]]'' books.
** From the related books, the rat catchers from ''[[Discworld/The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents|The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents]]''. This is lampshaded by [[Wrong Genre Savvy|Malicia]].
** From the related books, the rat catchers from ''[[The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents]]''. This is lampshaded by [[Wrong Genre Savvy|Malicia]].
** They're not really a double act, but Spelter and Carding from ''[[Discworld/Sourcery|Sourcery]]'' at one point stand next to each other and are described as "looking exactly like the number 10".
** They're not really a double act, but Spelter and Carding from ''[[Sourcery]]'' at one point stand next to each other and are described as "looking exactly like the number 10".
* Lenny and George from ''[[Of Mice and Men]]''
* Lenny and George from ''[[Of Mice and Men]]''
* Bragg and Larkin certainly count. Although that's more Freakishly Huge and Skinny than Fat and Skinny. (Bragg is at least 8 feet 8 inches and probably bigger.)
* Bragg and Larkin certainly count. Although that's more Freakishly Huge and Skinny than Fat and Skinny. (Bragg is at least 8 feet 8 inches and probably bigger.)
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* Sergeant Hanks and Inspector Sussworth from ''[[The Borribles]]''.
* Sergeant Hanks and Inspector Sussworth from ''[[The Borribles]]''.


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* [[Roger Ebert]] and Gene Siskel (and later, Richard Roeper) from ''At the Movies''.
* [[Roger Ebert]] and Gene Siskel (and later, Richard Roeper) from ''At the Movies''.
* Bert and Ernie from ''[[Sesame Street]]''.
* Bert and Ernie from ''[[Sesame Street]]''.
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* Penhall and Hanson toward the end of their partnership in ''[[21 Jump Street]]''.
* Penhall and Hanson toward the end of their partnership in ''[[21 Jump Street]]''.
* R.J. and Miles in ''[[The Hard Times of RJ Berger]]''.
* R.J. and Miles in ''[[The Hard Times of RJ Berger]]''.

== [[New Media]] ==
* In ''[[Vigor Mortis]]'' Frigs and Squigs are pair of hitmen that work together. Frigs is the fat one and Squigs is the skinny one.


== [[Newspaper Comics]] ==
== [[Newspaper Comics]] ==
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== [[Real Life]] ==
== [[Real Life]] ==
* [[G. K. Chesterton]] saw St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Francis of Assisi this way, since, though they never met, they would have been perfect foils for one another—the one big, slow, methodical and focused on his books, the other skinny, active, fiery and not prone to reading. He compared them to both [[The Merry Wives of Windsor|Falstaff and Slender]] and [[Don Quixote|Don Quixote and Sancho Panza.]]
* [[G. K. Chesterton]] saw St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Francis of Assisi this way, since, though they never met, they would have been perfect foils for one another — the one big, slow, methodical and focused on his books, the other skinny, active, fiery and not prone to reading. He compared them to both [[The Merry Wives of Windsor|Falstaff and Slender]] and [[Don Quixote|Don Quixote and Sancho Panza.]]


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Latest revision as of 16:31, 17 February 2023

Bones: Hey Lumpy, you know how we were talking about the other day how we're in every single solitary movie ever, the fat guy and the skinny guy who are both thugs?
Lumpy: Yeah?
Bones: Do you think that's a throwback to classic character development, or just really shitty writing?
Lumpy: I pick the latter.

This is where a fat and a skinny character make up a two-character ensemble. This is usually a comedy trope, usually with the skinny character being the Straight Man, although inversions of this are seen as well. Sometimes both characters are silly and this is often seen in the Terrible Trio type of villains, although there are also examples of heroic, or at least not villainous, pairs who fit this description. They often fit into the tropes of Those Two Guys or Those Two Bad Guys.

These two guys usually (but not always) have some specific characteristics that tropify their relationship: The skinny one has all of the ideas, and the fat one is also the strong man. The fat one is usually a dopey optimist, while the skinny one is cynical and refined. This pair, even in villain form, are devoted to to each other. If on the rare occasion the fat guy has a brilliant idea, either the skinny guy will express extreme surprise at the fat guy's ability to rub two brain cells together or the idea will be waved away as unworkable, and then re-appropriated two seconds later as the skinny guy's idea.

If these characteristics are not followed, then it's usually because the fat one is a brute who beats up the whiny skinny dude a lot. This behavior is rarely seen in protagonist pairings of fat and skinny.

Examples of Fat and Skinny include:

Anime and Manga

Comic Books

  • Asterix and Obelix, though Obelix insists his chest has just slipped a bit.
  • Douglas Klump and Burt Shlubb, "Fat Man and Little Boy" from Sin City
  • Plastic Man and Woozy Winks.

Film

Literature

  • Don Quixote and Sancho Panza
  • Fred and Nobby, as well as Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg, from the Discworld books.
  • Lenny and George from Of Mice and Men
  • Bragg and Larkin certainly count. Although that's more Freakishly Huge and Skinny than Fat and Skinny. (Bragg is at least 8 feet 8 inches and probably bigger.)
  • Miles Vorkosigan and his clone-brother Mark. Miles is notably skinny until he acquires a cook in one of the later books; Mark, whose metabolism is intended for a man six foot tall, has been surgically reduced to Miles' dwarfish height and decides to gain a great deal of weight to distinguish himself from his progenitor/brother. One character refers to them as "The Chance Brothers" - Slim and Fat.
  • Finney and Mudd from Tad Williams' Otherland sci-fi series. Servants to the main villain, the skinny one, Finney, is brilliant and manipulative, and Mudd, the fat one, is described as "Almost subhuman". Copies of them exist within a massive VR simulation network where these characteristics are played up even more by the intelligence controlling the system, which essentially constructs it's understanding of the universe from stories, almost making these copies a reference to the trope itself..
  • Depending on the artist or screen portrayal, Sherlock Holmes and John Watson sometimes get this treatment.
  • The lazy and horrid Aunt Spiker and Aunt Sponge of James and the Giant Peach who both have Meaningful Names.
  • Sergeant Hanks and Inspector Sussworth from The Borribles.

Live-Action TV

New Media

  • In Vigor Mortis Frigs and Squigs are pair of hitmen that work together. Frigs is the fat one and Squigs is the skinny one.

Newspaper Comics

Professional Wrestling

Theatre

  • Finian's Rainbow has Shears and Robust. The former is tall and lean, the latter short and squat.

Video Games

Web Comics

Web Original

Western Animation

Music

  • Williams and Ree.
  • The faces of Barenaked Ladies, Steven Page and Ed Robertson.
  • Insane Clown Posse, Violent J (fat) and Shaggy 2 Dope (skinny).
  • Johns Linnell and Flansburgh , pretty consistently throughout their career. Linnell has always been terribly scrawny, whereas Flansburgh has evolved from being ridiculously buff to rather pudgy, and of course several inches taller as well. Inverted, however, in that Flansburgh is the idea man, while Linnell broods in the background and plays music, sometimes on stage when you poke him into it.
  • Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G. when they were friends.
  • Trout Fishing in America has 7-foot, moderately built Keith Grimwood and 5-foot-5, thicker-built Ezra Idlet.

Real Life

  • G. K. Chesterton saw St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Francis of Assisi this way, since, though they never met, they would have been perfect foils for one another — the one big, slow, methodical and focused on his books, the other skinny, active, fiery and not prone to reading. He compared them to both Falstaff and Slender and Don Quixote and Sancho Panza.