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** Similarly, although the character in ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]'' is a ghost character (never appearing on stage), the Petruchio of that play ''could have been'' the same person as the one in ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'', given that both are from Verona.
** Similarly, although the character in ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]'' is a ghost character (never appearing on stage), the Petruchio of that play ''could have been'' the same person as the one in ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'', given that both are from Verona.
*** Outside of all of the women dressing as boys, Iachimo from ''[[Cymbeline]]'' has a name essentially meaning "little Iago" and is something like that character as a [[Harmless Villain]]. There's also a degree of expytude between ''[[Henry IV]]'' and ''Julius Caesar'' which were written at about the same time. In both plays, an idealistic [[Anti-Villain]] Hotspur/Brutus faces off an [[Anti-Hero]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Prince Hal/Marc Antony.
*** Outside of all of the women dressing as boys, Iachimo from ''[[Cymbeline]]'' has a name essentially meaning "little Iago" and is something like that character as a [[Harmless Villain]]. There's also a degree of expytude between ''[[Henry IV]]'' and ''Julius Caesar'' which were written at about the same time. In both plays, an idealistic [[Anti-Villain]] Hotspur/Brutus faces off an [[Anti-Hero]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Prince Hal/Marc Antony.
** ''[[Two Gentlemen of Verona (Theatre)|Two Gentlemen of Verona]]'', being one of Shakespeare's earliest plays, is ''full'' of characters who would later be Expied:
** ''[[Two Gentlemen of Verona]]'', being one of Shakespeare's earliest plays, is ''full'' of characters who would later be Expied:
*** ''[[The Merchant of Venice]]'' has Launcelot (technically Launcelet, "little Launce"), an obvious copy of Launce. Both characters are [[Cloudcuckoolander|oddball]] servants who go off into comedic monologues, and their dialogues and jokes are eerily similar. Nerissa could also be seen as the new and improved Lucetta--both are maidservants who act as straight men in practically the same dialogue about suitors, and both assist their mistresses in disguising themselves as boys.
*** ''[[The Merchant of Venice]]'' has Launcelot (technically Launcelet, "little Launce"), an obvious copy of Launce. Both characters are [[Cloudcuckoolander|oddball]] servants who go off into comedic monologues, and their dialogues and jokes are eerily similar. Nerissa could also be seen as the new and improved Lucetta--both are maidservants who act as straight men in practically the same dialogue about suitors, and both assist their mistresses in disguising themselves as boys.
*** Plot outline: Guy A and Girl A are in love. Girl A's father doesn't want them to be together. Meanwhile, Guy B tries to catch Girl A but is continually rebuffed. Girl B, who Guy B dumped in favor of Girl A, lurks in the wings, feeling sorry for herself. In the end, Guy B changes his mind, he and Girl B get back together, and everyone's happy. Now decide for yourself whether you want these four to be called Valentine, Sylvia, Proteus and Julia or [[A Midsummer Nights Dream|Lysander, Hermia, Demetrius and Helena]]. It doesn't really matter.
*** Plot outline: Guy A and Girl A are in love. Girl A's father doesn't want them to be together. Meanwhile, Guy B tries to catch Girl A but is continually rebuffed. Girl B, who Guy B dumped in favor of Girl A, lurks in the wings, feeling sorry for herself. In the end, Guy B changes his mind, he and Girl B get back together, and everyone's happy. Now decide for yourself whether you want these four to be called Valentine, Sylvia, Proteus and Julia or [[A Midsummer Night's Dream|Lysander, Hermia, Demetrius and Helena]]. It doesn't really matter.
*** As an added bonus, ''each'' of the two couples informed one of Shakespeare's other famous couples. Sylvia [[Romeo and Juliet|sneaks off to marry her man in a friar's cell, after which he is "banished" and believes it's a fate worse than death because be can't be with his new wife]]. <ref> Both scenarios were inspired by Arthur Brook's poem ''Romeus and Juliet'', but the latter was a straight adaptation.</ref> Julia, [[Twelfth Night|disguised as a boy, ends up delivering love letters for the guy she herself in love with, while ambiguously trying to convince him that sending the letters is a bad idea]]. Just to make it more obvious, her alias is "Sebastian", which was used as the name of Viola' [[Half Identical Twin]] who complicates the situation further.
*** As an added bonus, ''each'' of the two couples informed one of Shakespeare's other famous couples. Sylvia [[Romeo and Juliet|sneaks off to marry her man in a friar's cell, after which he is "banished" and believes it's a fate worse than death because be can't be with his new wife]]. <ref> Both scenarios were inspired by Arthur Brook's poem ''Romeus and Juliet'', but the latter was a straight adaptation.</ref> Julia, [[Twelfth Night|disguised as a boy, ends up delivering love letters for the guy she herself in love with, while ambiguously trying to convince him that sending the letters is a bad idea]]. Just to make it more obvious, her alias is "Sebastian", which was used as the name of Viola' [[Half Identical Twin]] who complicates the situation further.
** The basic "Friar Laurence" type appears a third time as "Friar Francis" in ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]'', once again convincing people that the best solution to any romantic difficulty is for the girl to fake her own death.
** The basic "Friar Laurence" type appears a third time as "Friar Francis" in ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]'', once again convincing people that the best solution to any romantic difficulty is for the girl to fake her own death.
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* [[Gilbert and Sullivan]]'s ''Utopia, Ltd.'' features a Sir Edward Corcoran, KGB, who can be identified with Captain Corcoran of ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' - especially given that he sings part of the younger character's entrance song. Since {{spoiler|Corcoran and Ralph Rackstraw switch places}} at the end of the earlier musical, it is a matter of some debate which of the two (if either) the older character is supposed to be.
* [[Gilbert and Sullivan]]'s ''Utopia, Ltd.'' features a Sir Edward Corcoran, KGB, who can be identified with Captain Corcoran of ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' - especially given that he sings part of the younger character's entrance song. Since {{spoiler|Corcoran and Ralph Rackstraw switch places}} at the end of the earlier musical, it is a matter of some debate which of the two (if either) the older character is supposed to be.
** Also from [[Gilbert and Sullivan]], some believe that Dick Deadeye in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' may be an older, more jaded version of Dick Dauntless in ''Ruddigore''.
** Also from [[Gilbert and Sullivan]], some believe that Dick Deadeye in ''H.M.S. Pinafore'' may be an older, more jaded version of Dick Dauntless in ''Ruddigore''.
* In Richard Strauss and Hugo von Hoffmannsthal's opera ''[[Der Rosenkavalier (Theatre)|Der Rosenkavalier]]'', the Marschallin and Octavian are versions of the Countess and Cherubino from ''[[The Marriage of Figaro (Theatre)|The Marriage of Figaro]]''.
* In Richard Strauss and Hugo von Hoffmannsthal's opera ''[[Der Rosenkavalier]]'', the Marschallin and Octavian are versions of the Countess and Cherubino from ''[[The Marriage of Figaro]]''.


* Wait? A man with ''questionable'' morals falls in love with a considerably more wholesome woman and much singing is involved? Are we talking about [[Guys and Dolls|Sky Masterson and Sarah Brown]] or [[The Music Man|Professor Harold Hill and Marian the Librarian]]?
* Wait? A man with ''questionable'' morals falls in love with a considerably more wholesome woman and much singing is involved? Are we talking about [[Guys and Dolls|Sky Masterson and Sarah Brown]] or [[The Music Man|Professor Harold Hill and Marian the Librarian]]?

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  • An Epileptic Trees theory has argued that the Antonio of Shakespeare's Twelfth Night is the same as the Antonio of The Merchant of Venice. Both seem to be homosexual and it's argued that the character of the the former, who is a sea captain, was able to become a wealthy merchant thanks to help from Sebastian and Viola.
  • Speaking of Shakespeare, not only does nearly every character in Romeo and Juliet correspond to one in West Side Story, so do many of the scenes:
    • Characters: Tony=Romeo, Maria=Juliet, Jets=Montagues, Sharks=Capulets, Bernado=Tybalt, Anita=Nurse/Lady Capulet, Riff=Mercutio, Chino=Paris, etc.
    • Scenes: the opening fight, Juliet/Maria's betrothal to Paris/Chino, Juliet's debut party=Maria's first dance, the balcony scene=the fire escape scene, Romeo & Juliet's elopement (The Friar corresponds to Doc)= Tony and Maria acting out a wedding, Tybalt/Bernado killing Mercutio/Riff, Romeo/Tony killing Tybalt/Bernado, the Nurse being taunted and insulted by the Montagues and thus unable to tell Romeo that Juliet's death is faked=Anita being assaulted by the Jets and thus lying about Maria's death, leading to Romeo/Tony's suicidal response.
  • Gilbert and Sullivan's Utopia, Ltd. features a Sir Edward Corcoran, KGB, who can be identified with Captain Corcoran of H.M.S. Pinafore - especially given that he sings part of the younger character's entrance song. Since Corcoran and Ralph Rackstraw switch places at the end of the earlier musical, it is a matter of some debate which of the two (if either) the older character is supposed to be.
    • Also from Gilbert and Sullivan, some believe that Dick Deadeye in H.M.S. Pinafore may be an older, more jaded version of Dick Dauntless in Ruddigore.
  • In Richard Strauss and Hugo von Hoffmannsthal's opera Der Rosenkavalier, the Marschallin and Octavian are versions of the Countess and Cherubino from The Marriage of Figaro.
  1. Both scenarios were inspired by Arthur Brook's poem Romeus and Juliet, but the latter was a straight adaptation.