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* An [[Epileptic Trees]] theory has argued that the Antonio of [[Shakespeare]]'s ''[[Twelfth Night]]'' is the same as the Antonio of ''The Merchant of Venice''. Both seem to be homosexual and it's argued that the character of the the former, who is a sea captain, was able to become a wealthy merchant thanks to help from Sebastian and Viola.
* An [[Epileptic Trees]] theory has argued that the Antonio of [[Shakespeare]]'s ''[[Twelfth Night]]'' is the same as the Antonio of ''The Merchant of Venice''. Both seem to be homosexual and it's argued that the character of the the former, who is a sea captain, was able to become a wealthy merchant thanks to help from Sebastian and Viola.
** Similarly, although the character in ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]'' is a ghost character (never appearing on stage), the Petruchio of that play ''could have been'' the same person as the one in ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'', given that both are from Verona.
** Similarly, although the character in ''[[Romeo and Juliet]]'' is a ghost character (never appearing on stage), the Petruchio of that play ''could have been'' the same person as the one in ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'', given that both are from Verona.
*** Outside of all of the women dressing as boys, Iachimo from ''[[Cymbeline]]'' has a name essentially meaning "little Iago" and is something like that character as a [[Harmless Villain]]. There's also a degree of expytude between ''[[Henry IV]]'' and ''Julius Caesar'' which were written at about the same time. In both plays, an idealistic [[Anti Villain]] Hotspur/Brutus faces off an [[Anti Hero]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Prince Hal/Marc Antony.
*** Outside of all of the women dressing as boys, Iachimo from ''[[Cymbeline]]'' has a name essentially meaning "little Iago" and is something like that character as a [[Harmless Villain]]. There's also a degree of expytude between ''[[Henry IV]]'' and ''Julius Caesar'' which were written at about the same time. In both plays, an idealistic [[Anti-Villain]] Hotspur/Brutus faces off an [[Anti-Hero]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Prince Hal/Marc Antony.
** ''[[Two Gentlemen of Verona (Theatre)|Two Gentlemen of Verona]]'', being one of Shakespeare's earliest plays, is ''full'' of characters who would later be Expied:
** ''[[Two Gentlemen of Verona (Theatre)|Two Gentlemen of Verona]]'', being one of Shakespeare's earliest plays, is ''full'' of characters who would later be Expied:
*** ''[[The Merchant of Venice]]'' has Launcelot (technically Launcelet, "little Launce"), an obvious copy of Launce. Both characters are [[Cloudcuckoolander|oddball]] servants who go off into comedic monologues, and their dialogues and jokes are eerily similar. Nerissa could also be seen as the new and improved Lucetta--both are maidservants who act as straight men in practically the same dialogue about suitors, and both assist their mistresses in disguising themselves as boys.
*** ''[[The Merchant of Venice]]'' has Launcelot (technically Launcelet, "little Launce"), an obvious copy of Launce. Both characters are [[Cloudcuckoolander|oddball]] servants who go off into comedic monologues, and their dialogues and jokes are eerily similar. Nerissa could also be seen as the new and improved Lucetta--both are maidservants who act as straight men in practically the same dialogue about suitors, and both assist their mistresses in disguising themselves as boys.
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** Cyrano is an expy of Grisóstomo, a [[Marty Stu|fair, intelligent, rich and easygoing guy]] [[Renaissance Man|who is a talented physic and poet]] so in love with the shepherdess [[Mary Sue|beautiful, intelligent, easygoing and rich Marcela]] that he decides to become a shepherd himself just to court her. After a long chain of rejections, he decides to [[Driven to Suicide|kill himself]] and blames Marcela in his poems.
** Cyrano is an expy of Grisóstomo, a [[Marty Stu|fair, intelligent, rich and easygoing guy]] [[Renaissance Man|who is a talented physic and poet]] so in love with the shepherdess [[Mary Sue|beautiful, intelligent, easygoing and rich Marcela]] that he decides to become a shepherd himself just to court her. After a long chain of rejections, he decides to [[Driven to Suicide|kill himself]] and blames Marcela in his poems.
** Le Bret is an expy of Ambrosio, best friend of Grisóstomo, [[The Watson|who talks in his burial and explains that Grisóstomo was a]] [[Love Martyr]] [[Driven to Suicide]] because Marcela’s cruelty, and [[Undying Loyalty|became another shepherd to follow Grisóstomo’s wishes and is adamant in his resolution that his friend last will be respected: to burn all his poems and bury him when he first saw Marcela]].
** Le Bret is an expy of Ambrosio, best friend of Grisóstomo, [[The Watson|who talks in his burial and explains that Grisóstomo was a]] [[Love Martyr]] [[Driven to Suicide]] because Marcela’s cruelty, and [[Undying Loyalty|became another shepherd to follow Grisóstomo’s wishes and is adamant in his resolution that his friend last will be respected: to burn all his poems and bury him when he first saw Marcela]].
** Roxane is an expy of Marcela, [[Mary Sue|the beautiful, intelligent, easygoing and rich woman]] [[So Beautiful Its a Curse|who has become a shepherdess to escape the constant courtship of a lot of suitors]]. She is a friendly person, [[Does Not Like Men|but is not interested in love.]] She is present at Grisóstomo’s burial and claims that she never leaded Grisóstomo on, [[Brutal Honesty|she was sincere with him when she said she didn’t love him]] and if Grisóstomo [[Driven to Suicide|took his own life it was not because he was a]] [[Love Martyr]], but because he was a [[Martyr Without a Cause]].
** Roxane is an expy of Marcela, [[Mary Sue|the beautiful, intelligent, easygoing and rich woman]] [[So Beautiful It's a Curse|who has become a shepherdess to escape the constant courtship of a lot of suitors]]. She is a friendly person, [[Does Not Like Men|but is not interested in love.]] She is present at Grisóstomo’s burial and claims that she never leaded Grisóstomo on, [[Brutal Honesty|she was sincere with him when she said she didn’t love him]] and if Grisóstomo [[Driven to Suicide|took his own life it was not because he was a]] [[Love Martyr]], but because he was a [[Martyr Without a Cause]].
* Every character in [[Miss Saigon]] corresponds to one in [[Madame Butterfly]], which it's based on:
* Every character in [[Miss Saigon]] corresponds to one in [[Madame Butterfly]], which it's based on:
** Kim=Cio-Cio San (Madame Butterfly).
** Kim=Cio-Cio San (Madame Butterfly).

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  • An Epileptic Trees theory has argued that the Antonio of Shakespeare's Twelfth Night is the same as the Antonio of The Merchant of Venice. Both seem to be homosexual and it's argued that the character of the the former, who is a sea captain, was able to become a wealthy merchant thanks to help from Sebastian and Viola.
  • Speaking of Shakespeare, not only does nearly every character in Romeo and Juliet correspond to one in West Side Story, so do many of the scenes:
    • Characters: Tony=Romeo, Maria=Juliet, Jets=Montagues, Sharks=Capulets, Bernado=Tybalt, Anita=Nurse/Lady Capulet, Riff=Mercutio, Chino=Paris, etc.
    • Scenes: the opening fight, Juliet/Maria's betrothal to Paris/Chino, Juliet's debut party=Maria's first dance, the balcony scene=the fire escape scene, Romeo & Juliet's elopement (The Friar corresponds to Doc)= Tony and Maria acting out a wedding, Tybalt/Bernado killing Mercutio/Riff, Romeo/Tony killing Tybalt/Bernado, the Nurse being taunted and insulted by the Montagues and thus unable to tell Romeo that Juliet's death is faked=Anita being assaulted by the Jets and thus lying about Maria's death, leading to Romeo/Tony's suicidal response.
  • Gilbert and Sullivan's Utopia, Ltd. features a Sir Edward Corcoran, KGB, who can be identified with Captain Corcoran of H.M.S. Pinafore - especially given that he sings part of the younger character's entrance song. Since Corcoran and Ralph Rackstraw switch places at the end of the earlier musical, it is a matter of some debate which of the two (if either) the older character is supposed to be.
    • Also from Gilbert and Sullivan, some believe that Dick Deadeye in H.M.S. Pinafore may be an older, more jaded version of Dick Dauntless in Ruddigore.
  • In Richard Strauss and Hugo von Hoffmannsthal's opera Der Rosenkavalier, the Marschallin and Octavian are versions of the Countess and Cherubino from The Marriage of Figaro.
  1. Both scenarios were inspired by Arthur Brook's poem Romeus and Juliet, but the latter was a straight adaptation.