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Say a hideous monster is terrorizing the town. All seems lost, until the [[Big Damn Heroes]] arrive. They beat the monster down, and the whole village celebrates with them.
 
... [[What the Hell, Hero?|What the hell]]? The heroes fought the monster and defeated it soundly, but they just smashed the place to pieces during the battle.
 
Well, no one was killed, but these people are barely better for the town than the monster. Some saviors.
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Often this comes from careless use of the powers of a [[Person of Mass Destruction]], but often it's just a tendency to cause [[Disaster Dominoes]].
 
Compare [[What the Hell, Hero?]], when the heroes get called out for ruining the town. If the destruction that happens truly isn't the hero's fault, then he's just a [[Walking Disaster Area]]. If the situation was already disastrous beforehand and he can't possibly make things that much worse than they already are, then he's justified through the [[Godzilla Threshold]]. Sometimes this is the practical result of [[Summon Bigger Fish]]. A [[Willfully Weak]] character may become one, often after a [[World of Cardboard Speech]].
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
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** The sequels --''[[Great Mazinger]]'' and ''[[UFO Robo Grendizer]]''-- also played this trope.
* [[Slayers|Lina Inverse]] has a nasty habit of casting the [[Fantastic Nuke|Dragon Slave]] in populated areas, especially when the series takes a turn for the funny. The most famous incident is probably the first episode of the anime, in which a village is being attacked by a dragon Lina accidentally set loose by slaughtering/robbing the gang of bandits that it belonged to. Lina first makes the village elder promise to pay her before lifting a finger to help, then destroys the whole village along with the dragon because the dragon insults her by ''not'' stepping on her. (She still expects to be paid.)
* ''[[Zambot 3]]'': This series PERSONIFIES this trope. Yoshiyuki [[Kill 'Em All]] Tomino went to extreme lengths to show why it is not a good idea getting two [[Humongous Mecha]] fighting in a populated area. Although the [[Kid Hero|children]] piloting Zambot try to stop the [[Robeast|Mecha Burst]], they make just so much damage ([[Ungrateful Bastard|which does nothing to convince the Earth folk who hates them they are ON its side]]).
* Averted in ''[[Desert Punk (Manga)|Desert Punk]]''. In an early episode, Desert Punk and Rain Spider prepare to duel in the center of town for the right to a woman... as payment for her father's debt. The town elder tries to warn them off, saying their duel will be so epic and destructive that it will destroy the town. Turns out he didn't need to worry, as the duel turns out to be so [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not Awesome?|non-epic]] and drawn out that most of the townspeople wander off in boredom after a few hours.
* In ''[[Chrono Crusade]]''...
** Rosette Christopher almost always creates a ton of property damage for every mission she is involved in. Her superiors have even said: "We can even make a BOOK from your destruction reports".
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* Kuro and Al-Azif in [[Demonbane]]. Several areas of Arkham are devastated by their mech and magical spells. So many, in fact, that their [[Hero Insurance]] is rapidly running out. their employer even threatens them with not letting them use Demonbane (well, not supporting them, anyways. There's really no way she can not let them use it).
* ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'''s Kotetsu Kaburagi/Wild Tiger cares deeply about saving people -- and not a lick about property damage. Thank God there's literal [[Hero Insurance]] in his city, though it still gets him chewed out regularly by his corporate sponsors. It's also earned him the nickname "Crusher for Justice."
* Guts from ''[[Berserk]]'' overlaps with this and [[Walking Disaster Area]], as most of the time, shit is already messed up by the time he gets to a town (the usual scenario is that [[The Usual Adversaries|an apostle]] is a terrorizing the place). However, since Guts [[Demon Hunter|hunts apostles]], he takes it upon himself to kill them, which should make him a hero... [[Anti -Hero|but he does his deeds at the expense of everybody around him]] [[Revenge|and for his own desires]] - [[Implacable Man|and he knows it.]] [[Deconstructed Trope|Thus,]] Guts is pretty much [[Hero With Bad Publicity|viewed as a villain]] by most who come across him.
* ''[[Inuyasha]]'': In the final battle, Naraku banks on his enemies being so concerned about collatoral damage that they won't attack him just in case Kaede's village is destroyed as a result. This is part of a plan to buy him the time he needs to reach the Bone-Eater's Well. {{spoiler|Unfortunately, for him, he didn't take into account Sesshoumaru.}} As Inuyasha's group does indeed hesitate as he hoped, {{spoiler|Sesshoumaru responds with [[Shut UP, Hannibal|"So what?"]] and attacks which encourages Inuyasha's group to join in. Despite the damage the village suffers, they're happy for Inuyasha's group to live permanently with them after the grand finale and even tolerate frequent visits from Sesshoumaru.}}
* Madoka from ''[[Rinne no Lagrange (Anime)|Rinne no Lagrange]]'' ''tries'' not to be one, but she's still in a [[Humongous Mecha]] fighting other Humongous Mecha, so it doesn't always work.
* There is a reason they make [[Idiot Hero|Luffy]] fight on the outer deck in the Baratie arc of ''[[One Piece (Manga)|One Piece]]''. It of course gets smashed up, not in the least because Luffy declares he's going to fix everything by just sinking the goddamn ship and letting it be done with. {{spoiler|He doesn't really.}}
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* Dying alien warrior Prince Elfangor, one of the technologically-advanced Andalites, reveals a covert invasion of Earth by another alien species, the Yeerks, to five human teenagers. He gives the teenagers access to morphing technology in hopes that they can launch a guerrilla war against the invaders, promising that Andalite reinforcements are on their way, and they wouldn't need to stall for time more than a year. The teenagers, becoming the [[Animorphs (Literature)|Animorphs]], {{spoiler|end up fighting for three years, because the Andalite military that the Animorphs were so desperately waiting for deemed Earth a low priority, and assumed the kids were lying to try to become a high priority in the very few times the two groups were able to make contact. When the Andalites realized that they've made a mistake and the Yeerk invasion on Earth has turned into a full-blown war, they decide to forfeit Earth and let the Yeerks concentrate all their manpower on Earth...before they blast the entire planet from orbit, killing everyone there, Yeerk...or human.}} This really is something of an indicator of Andalite arrogance, who believe humans to be second-rate species.
* ''[[Sir Apropos of Nothing]]'' isn't really like this in the first book, but in the second book, when he isn't [[Brainwashed and Crazy]], he does things of his own choice, and in the third book, he's even more like this.
* In ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'', Lews Therin Telamon and the male Aes Sedai (read: wizards) successfully locked the Dark One [[Sealed Evil in A Can|back in his prison]], but the Dark One countered by ''poisoning [[The Force]]'', causing all male channelers to go irrevocably insane and start [[World Sundering]] ''en masse''. Even in the story's modern day, 3,000 years later, there are debates on whether men hiding in [[Anti -Magic]] Fields made the Breaking Of The World worse (by spreading out the damage) or better (by preventing an [[Earthshattering Kaboom]]).
** Oh, and Lews Therin's reincarnation, the actual [[Main Character]] of the series, is the [[Chosen One]] and is ''known'' to be a [[Destructive Savior]], since male channelers are still going crazy. He will either prevent the release of the Dark One, leading to the unmaking of all reality, or succeed at defeating the Dark One, but at the cost of horrendous war--not to mention going insane enough to get back into the [[World Sundering]] habit. In amusing bits of [[Insane Troll Logic]], some people thus try to kill him in the hopes of "saving" the world.
* Referenced in the Zilpha Keatley Snyder youth novel, ''Song of the Gargoyle.'' One of the many songs court jester Komus taught his son Tymmon is "The Knight of the Honorable Name," a ballad about a lordly knight who wanders around fighting monsters and bandits, but often leaves his beneficiaries worse off than they'd started. One specific example is given of a town which is being menaced by a dragon. The titular Knight and his retinue slay the dragon, but only after they've lived in the town for so long, taking the townspeoples' goods and food, that they've laid waste to the town themselves. The Knight and his followers then ride off, proud of their success and oblivious to the destruction.
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== Live Action TV ==
* In ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'', the Tok'ra considered the Tau'ri to be this, since they lose a lot more people after the Tau'ri start knocking off System Lords left and right. If it weren't for the fact that they are incapable of reproduction, one might almost take it as just being mad that the Tau'ri are so damn effective for "newbies" while their [[Holding Out for A Hero]] method hadn't bore any fruit until recently (and then the Tau'ri forced them to shelve it for being too brutal).
* On ''[[Lexx]]'', [[Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds|Stanley tends to carelessly blow up the planets he just visited]].
** Some blame can be placed on Lexx himself, as the ship does not have a very good grasp on ethics or even basic slang, not to mention that it ''likes'' to blow up planets. At one point a planet was destroyed simply because Lexx didn't understand the meaning of "belay that order" and didn't bother to ask.
* The [[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]] destroyed a lot of buildings when they fought in their [[Humongous Mecha|Zords]]. Later [[Power Rangers]] series began to use clear areas for the Zord battles.
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* If the [[Starcraft|Protoss]] technique is counted, we must also list the closest-to-good guys in ''[[Warhammer 40000]]''. The Imperium has been known to 'save' cities from zombies or aliens by knocking half of it down with artillery and setting the other half on fire. (They also frequently save systems from daemonic incursions by reducing the world with the warp rift on it to a smouldering ruin with orbital bombardment.) The Eldar and Tau aren't much better when it comes to not solving problems by killing planets.
** The difference with the Eldar is, unlike the Imperium and Tau, it's never their own worlds that they destroy. And to the Eldar, no one else actually matters.
** In the words of a man who was unfortunate enough to be on a planet that needed Space Marine assistance, "We used to pray to [[God -Emperor|the]] [[Dark Messiah|Emperor]] to send his [[Space Marines|Angels]] to deliver us. Now we pray He never does so again."
* Dragon-Bloods in ''[[Exalted]]'' have anima banners that flare up with representations of their elemental aspects as they use their Essence. Combat in ''[[Exalted]]'' tends to burn a lot of Essence. One of the Dragon-Blood aspects is Fire. Suffice to say there's a reason that Dragon-Blood construction favours stone instead of wood.
** Then there are the renegade Abyssals, whose efforts to protect locations have to include leaving ''really quickly'' to avoid wiping out the town in a colossal Resonance eruption.
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** His first incarnation, Kim, is a researcher engaged in developing nanotechnology with the best of intentions in mind. {{spoiler|Kim's technology is rediscovered 6,000 years later and is instrumental in the development of nanotechnology which is utilized to revive Deus (and, consequently, wipe out most of the planet's population).}}
** His second incarnation, Lacan, is a mild-mannered painter who becomes a hero in the struggle against Solaris for the freedom of surface-dwellers. This lasts only until the love of his life dies in a heroic sacrifice. {{spoiler|This results in a [[Heroic BSOD|particularly]] [[Heel Face Turn|unfortunate]] series of events resulting in Lacan becoming Grahf, who immediately summons ancient murder weapons known as Diabolos which end up killing off most of the planet's population. And that's just for starters.}}
** Finally, there is Fei, a guy who generally augments his angst with a solid heroic archetype. But, if you stress him out too much, {{spoiler|he transforms into Id, a completely amoral monster and [[Super -Powered Evil Side]] who wipes out entire civilizations ''just because''.}}
* In an [[Abridged Series]] of ''[[Ocarina of Time]]'', Link is like this.
** In the real games, he's limited to pottery and rocks.
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* [[Prototype (Video Game)|Alex Mercer]] saves Manhattan from {{spoiler|a nuke}} and fights the infected. He also has a civilian kill count well into the thousands, often in a single mission and ''unintentionally''.
** The whole "saviour" thing [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|starts off unintentional as well.]] By the time you've finished the game, the player's probably unintentionally slaughtered the population of NYC at least 3 times over in civilians, not counting [[Video Game Cruelty Potential|intentional killing of civilians]], killing [[Punch Clock Villain|soldiers]] or killing [[Zombie Apocalypse|The Infected]].
* The trope could well be renamed [[Angry Birds]], as the object isn't just to [[Kill 'Em All]], but points are awarded based on how much is destroyed.
* The title character of ''[[Nie R]]'' is like this, heedless of the destruction he causes trying to save Yonah. This ultimately results in {{spoiler|the death of mankind.}}
* Most chases in [[Driver San Francisco]] end with you using a semi truck, bus, what ever you shifted into to ram into the target from the oncoming lane.
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== Web Comics ==
* ''[[Eight 8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|8-bit Theater]]'' (minus the Savior bit)
** In fact, {{spoiler|they're later outright stated to be the true villains of the universe.}}
*** Not that {{spoiler|Sarda is any better}}.
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{{quote| "Nobody wrecks MY city! Uh... except me."}}
* ''[[Powerpuff Girls]]''. Most notable one being when the girls fight in [[Humongous Mecha]]. Others are not that destructive.
** This is actually deconstructed in one episode where they move to a city on the more [[Sliding Scale of Cynicism Versus Idealism|cynical end of the scale]]. The mayor [[What the Hell, Hero?|calls them]] on destroying an important suspension bridge in order to stop some bank robbers who stole only a few hundred dollars.
** Mojo Jojo also pulls a gambit to make the girls super huge so that they wreck townsville as they search for him. He's more anxious than usual about being caught, but the growth does get half the job done.
** Also shows up in [[The Movie]].
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== Religion ==
* An interesting variation by the [[The Bible (Literature)|Christian savior]], Jesus Christ. Jesus had said that he had "come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword." This is often interpreted to mean that those who accept Jesus will bring conflict and division to his surroundings. However, it's implied that those who [[Have You Tried Not Being a Monster?|refuse to accept converted family members]] into the fold are primarily responsible for the suffering that happens when divisions pop up. Also, it's families, societies, and relationships that suffer when he divides them, not city infrastructures directly.
 
 
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* In [[Real Life]], happens quite a lot. [[World War II]] saw numerous examples, such as both Leningrad and Stalingrad, which were virtually levelled in the successful defence of them. Many of the great capitals of Europe, like Paris and Rome, escaped this sort of destructive fighting only because the German commanders quit them rather than engage in destructive fighting there. Douglas MacArthur, upon fulfilling his pledge to return to the Philippines, expected the Japanese to do the same in Manilla, but instead they dug in, and the US Army flattened most of it with artillery fire.
** The reasons for this type of defense are many, but the primary reason to obliterate a city while defending it is not so much to deny the enemy the resources, but rather to slow the enemy down. Stalingrad, for example, held up the Germans for ''months'' as they tried to get enough forces through the ruined city. This is less common in modern warfare with precision weapons, but still occurs. Fallujah during the Iraq War, for example.
*** The battle of Stalingrad stands out because the German army was [[Executive Meddling|forced to ignore]] [[What an Idiot!|the strategy that had been winning the war before then]], which saw tough pockets of defense surrounded and picked off at a leisurely pace to conserve men and munitions.
* The liberation of France involved blowing a lot of it up. Some residents of coastal towns bear a lot of resentment towards the D-Day invaders (in part due to the rapes and such that accompanied the liberation).
** Succinctly described by the anonymous member of Patton's Third Army who remarked of the smoking ruins of the French Village he occupied, "We sure liberated the hell out of this place."
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