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[[File:no fanservice for you 4667.jpg|link=Lil Formers|frame|[[Transformers|Arcee]] is [http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2006/08/07/08072006/ certainly not doing] [[Rule 34|some cheap]] [[Fan Service]], thank you very much.]]
[[File:no fanservice for you 4667.jpg|link=Lil Formers|frame|[[Transformers|Arcee]] is [http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2006/08/07/08072006/ certainly not doing] [[Rule 34|some cheap]] [[Fan Service]], thank you very much.]]


{{quote|'''Ira Kane''': Snag it and put it in the bucket<br />
{{quote|'''Ira Kane''': Snag it and put it in the bucket
'''Harry Block''': I've seen this movie; the [[Black Dude Dies First]]. You snag it.|''[[Evolution (film)|Evolution]]''}}
'''Harry Block''': I've seen this movie; the [[Black Dude Dies First]]. You snag it.|''[[Evolution (film)|Evolution]]''}}


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* [[Complete Monster|Johan Liebert]] from ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]'' defies the trope of being [[Obviously Evil]], and on the surface, he seems like a really nice guy.
* [[Complete Monster|Johan Liebert]] from ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]'' defies the trope of being [[Obviously Evil]], and on the surface, he seems like a really nice guy.
* In the second ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'' drama CD, Karina assures Barnaby that she has no intention of letting their animosity towards each other become [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]]. So far she's proven successful: not only is any attraction between them still absent, they're now competing with each other for ''[[Friend Versus Lover|Kotetsu's]]'' attention.
* In the second ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'' drama CD, Karina assures Barnaby that she has no intention of letting their animosity towards each other become [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]]. So far she's proven successful: not only is any attraction between them still absent, they're now competing with each other for ''[[Friend Versus Lover|Kotetsu's]]'' attention.
{{quote| '''Karina:''' You know those situations where people hate each other's guts at first, but then developing feeling for each other?<br />
{{quote|'''Karina:''' You know those situations where people hate each other's guts at first, but then developing feeling for each other?
'''Barnaby:''' Yeah?<br />
'''Barnaby:''' Yeah?
'''Karina:''' That's not going to happen. I'll rip down those [[Event Flag]]s myself if I have to. }}
'''Karina:''' That's not going to happen. I'll rip down those [[Event Flag]]s myself if I have to. }}
* At the end of ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' {{spoiler|[[A God Am I]] is deliberately shot down by the potential god-figure himself, who in response to his potential use of power and leadership simply states that he is "just Simon the Digger."}}
* At the end of ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'' {{spoiler|[[A God Am I]] is deliberately shot down by the potential god-figure himself, who in response to his potential use of power and leadership simply states that he is "just Simon the Digger."}}
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* The ''[[Scream (film)|Scream]]'' films are supposedly loaded with this, yet most [[Horror Tropes]] in them are usually played straight or [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]]. One genuine instance is when the second of the two killers is apparently dead at the end of the first film. Randy Meeks says this is the moment when the killer comes back to life for one last scare. The killer promptly does, but Sidney, without flinching, puts a bullet in his head: "Not in my movie." Also used in the second film. Also in the second film, a black man leaves town when the bodies start piling up, because he knows "[[Black Dude Dies First|how long brothers last in these movies]]". He lives.
* The ''[[Scream (film)|Scream]]'' films are supposedly loaded with this, yet most [[Horror Tropes]] in them are usually played straight or [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]]. One genuine instance is when the second of the two killers is apparently dead at the end of the first film. Randy Meeks says this is the moment when the killer comes back to life for one last scare. The killer promptly does, but Sidney, without flinching, puts a bullet in his head: "Not in my movie." Also used in the second film. Also in the second film, a black man leaves town when the bodies start piling up, because he knows "[[Black Dude Dies First|how long brothers last in these movies]]". He lives.
* In ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'', [[Red Shirt|Guy]] is, in essence, a Defied Trope in character form.
* In ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'', [[Red Shirt|Guy]] is, in essence, a Defied Trope in character form.
{{quote| '''Guy''': Did you ever ''watch'' the show?}}
{{quote|'''Guy''': Did you ever ''watch'' the show?}}
* ''[[Austin Powers]]''. Dr Evil has captured Austin and wants to place him in "an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death" (Dr. Evil's words), and [[Stating the Simple Solution|his son Scott wonders why they can't just shoot him]]. Despite Scott's best efforts, Dr Evil's [[Contractual Genre Blindness]] prevails, and Austin predictably escapes from the [[Shark Pool|pool of mutated sea bass]] that he's suspended over.
* ''[[Austin Powers]]''. Dr Evil has captured Austin and wants to place him in "an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death" (Dr. Evil's words), and [[Stating the Simple Solution|his son Scott wonders why they can't just shoot him]]. Despite Scott's best efforts, Dr Evil's [[Contractual Genre Blindness]] prevails, and Austin predictably escapes from the [[Shark Pool|pool of mutated sea bass]] that he's suspended over.
* Prince Herbert from ''[[Monty Python and The Holy Grail]]'' tries repeatedly to break out into an [["I Want" Song]], but his attempts are constantly foiled (complete with [[Letting the Air Out of the Band]]) by his father.
* Prince Herbert from ''[[Monty Python and The Holy Grail]]'' tries repeatedly to break out into an [["I Want" Song]], but his attempts are constantly foiled (complete with [[Letting the Air Out of the Band]]) by his father.
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* The ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' novel ''[[Grey Knights]]'' notes that the Inquisition defies [[Never Found the Body]] in the case of Ghargatuloth; they sent the Grey Knight expedition down to Khorion IX instead of simply [[Earthshattering Kaboom|calling Exterminatus on it]] because they needed eyes on the ground to see him die.
* The ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' novel ''[[Grey Knights]]'' notes that the Inquisition defies [[Never Found the Body]] in the case of Ghargatuloth; they sent the Grey Knight expedition down to Khorion IX instead of simply [[Earthshattering Kaboom|calling Exterminatus on it]] because they needed eyes on the ground to see him die.
* The short story [http://podcastle.org/2010/01/26/podcastle-88-another-end-of-the-empire/ Another End Of The Empire] by Tim Pratt features the [[Evil Overlord]] Mogrash who is told the following prophecy:
* The short story [http://podcastle.org/2010/01/26/podcastle-88-another-end-of-the-empire/ Another End Of The Empire] by Tim Pratt features the [[Evil Overlord]] Mogrash who is told the following prophecy:
{{quote| "A child dwells in the village of Misery Chin, in the mountain provinces to the east. If allowed to grow to manhood, he will take over your empire, overthrow your ways and means, and send you from the halls of your palace forever." }}
{{quote|"A child dwells in the village of Misery Chin, in the mountain provinces to the east. If allowed to grow to manhood, he will take over your empire, overthrow your ways and means, and send you from the halls of your palace forever." }}
** Rather than raze the village to the ground as his ancestors would have done, which he realised would have only fulfilled the prophecy as the boy would inevitably escape the slaughter somehow and take his revenge, Mogrash tries to avert the prophecy by being nice, instituting reforms, and raising the boys who could be threats as his own sons. [[Self-Fulfilling Prophecy|In the end the prophecy is fulfilled, one of the boys becomes his heir, his empire is changes irrevocably and he decided to leave his palace]].
** Rather than raze the village to the ground as his ancestors would have done, which he realised would have only fulfilled the prophecy as the boy would inevitably escape the slaughter somehow and take his revenge, Mogrash tries to avert the prophecy by being nice, instituting reforms, and raising the boys who could be threats as his own sons. [[Self-Fulfilling Prophecy|In the end the prophecy is fulfilled, one of the boys becomes his heir, his empire is changes irrevocably and he decided to leave his palace]].
* In the ''[[Myst]]'' novel, Atrus comes across one of the infamous D'ni puzzle-locks and tries to decipher it in the standard Myst [[Only Smart People May Pass]] fashion. His father Gehn picks up a blunt instrument and smashes it open.
* In the ''[[Myst]]'' novel, Atrus comes across one of the infamous D'ni puzzle-locks and tries to decipher it in the standard Myst [[Only Smart People May Pass]] fashion. His father Gehn picks up a blunt instrument and smashes it open.
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**** [[Running Gag|He killed you]] [[Watchmen|thirty-five minutes ago]].
**** [[Running Gag|He killed you]] [[Watchmen|thirty-five minutes ago]].
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'', "Utopia":
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'', "Utopia":
{{quote| '''The Master''': Now then, Doctor! Ooh! New voice! ... Anyway, why don't we stop and have a nice little chat where I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me -- [[NOT!|I ''don't'' think]]!}}
{{quote|'''The Master''': Now then, Doctor! Ooh! New voice! ... Anyway, why don't we stop and have a nice little chat where I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me -- [[NOT!|I ''don't'' think]]!}}
* ''[[Hannah Montana]]'': Miley is [[Genre Savvy]] enough to [[Bathroom Stall of Overheard Insults|check for feet under the stalls]] before talking about her [[Secret Identity]] with Lilly in the ladies' room.
* ''[[Hannah Montana]]'': Miley is [[Genre Savvy]] enough to [[Bathroom Stall of Overheard Insults|check for feet under the stalls]] before talking about her [[Secret Identity]] with Lilly in the ladies' room.


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* ''[[Dragon Age II]]'' presents this in the guise of one of the final [[Take a Third Option]] choices. A player actively seeking to achieve some sort of compromise between two factions is rewarded with a rather large "boom".
* ''[[Dragon Age II]]'' presents this in the guise of one of the final [[Take a Third Option]] choices. A player actively seeking to achieve some sort of compromise between two factions is rewarded with a rather large "boom".
* In ''[[Portal 2]]'', the [[Final Boss]] defies [[Boss Arena Idiocy]] by studying the recordings of how you defeated the previous boss and deliberately setting up the arena to avoid those same mistakes. The trope is then [[Zig Zagged Trope|zig zagged]] by having the boss make an entirely new set of glaringly obvious mistakes.
* In ''[[Portal 2]]'', the [[Final Boss]] defies [[Boss Arena Idiocy]] by studying the recordings of how you defeated the previous boss and deliberately setting up the arena to avoid those same mistakes. The trope is then [[Zig Zagged Trope|zig zagged]] by having the boss make an entirely new set of glaringly obvious mistakes.
{{quote| '''{{spoiler|Wheatley}}:''' "I also took the liberty of studying the tapes of you killing her, and I am not going to make the same mistakes. Four-part plan is this: One, no portal surfaces. Two, start the [[Deadly Gas|neurotoxin]] immediately. Three, bomb-proof shields for me, leading directly into number four: bombs, for throwing at you. You know what, this plan is so [[Tempting Fate|foolproof]] that I'm going to give you a sporting chance and turn off the neurotoxin. I'm joking, of course. Goodbye."}}
{{quote|'''{{spoiler|Wheatley}}:''' "I also took the liberty of studying the tapes of you killing her, and I am not going to make the same mistakes. Four-part plan is this: One, no portal surfaces. Two, start the [[Deadly Gas|neurotoxin]] immediately. Three, bomb-proof shields for me, leading directly into number four: bombs, for throwing at you. You know what, this plan is so [[Tempting Fate|foolproof]] that I'm going to give you a sporting chance and turn off the neurotoxin. I'm joking, of course. Goodbye."}}
** And taken further at the end: {{spoiler|"STEP FIVE! BOOBY-TRAP THE STALEMATE RESOLUTION BUTTON!"}}
** And taken further at the end: {{spoiler|"STEP FIVE! BOOBY-TRAP THE STALEMATE RESOLUTION BUTTON!"}}
** {{spoiler|Unfortunately for Wheatly, he failed to defy the final [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] trope: Chell opening a portal right under him, with the other side on the surface of the moon.}}
** {{spoiler|Unfortunately for Wheatly, he failed to defy the final [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] trope: Chell opening a portal right under him, with the other side on the surface of the moon.}}
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* The DM of ''[[DM of the Rings]]'' will not tolerate [[Off the Rails]] when he can help it. Only twice do the players pull it off.
* The DM of ''[[DM of the Rings]]'' will not tolerate [[Off the Rails]] when he can help it. Only twice do the players pull it off.
* ''[[Least I Could Do]]'' does this with an old classic:
* ''[[Least I Could Do]]'' does this with an old classic:
{{quote| '''Rayne:''' [[Cut Himself Shaving|I fell down some stairs.]]<br />
{{quote|'''Rayne:''' [[Cut Himself Shaving|I fell down some stairs.]]<br />
'''Noel:''' No he didn't. I beat the shit out of him with a smile on my face. }}
'''Noel:''' No he didn't. I beat the shit out of him with a smile on my face. }}
* Tarquin from [[Order of the Stick]] is so [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]] that he hands out ''guidelines'' on defying tropes to his guards. {{spoiler|They work.}}
* Tarquin from [[Order of the Stick]] is so [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]] that he hands out ''guidelines'' on defying tropes to his guards. {{spoiler|They work.}}
** And [[Cool Old Guy]] Julio Scoundrel defies [[Mentor Occupational Hazard]].
** And [[Cool Old Guy]] Julio Scoundrel defies [[Mentor Occupational Hazard]].
{{quote| '''Elan:''' Will I ever see you again?<br />
{{quote|'''Elan:''' Will I ever see you again?
'''Julio Scoundrél:''' Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge — so don't take it personally if I say I sincerely hope we never cross paths again. }}
'''Julio Scoundrél:''' Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge — so don't take it personally if I say I sincerely hope we never cross paths again. }}
* [[Axe Cop]] advices the families of crime fighters to hide in the bushes outside their house with guns every night to avert [[And Your Little Dog, Too]].
* [[Axe Cop]] advices the families of crime fighters to hide in the bushes outside their house with guns every night to avert [[And Your Little Dog, Too]].

Revision as of 15:13, 7 August 2014

Arcee is certainly not doing some cheap Fan Service, thank you very much.

Ira Kane: Snag it and put it in the bucket

Harry Block: I've seen this movie; the Black Dude Dies First. You snag it.

Happens when a character knows that a trope is about to happen, either due to being Genre Savvy or because someone is trying to invoke it, and then actively attempts to avert it, subvert it, or maybe even invert it.

The character might succeed, or might fail. In failing, he might even set the trope off. The point is that the character is at least attempting to avoid a straight run of the trope.

Compare Reality Ensues (which this may sometimes lead to).

Contrast Invoked Trope, Exploited Trope, Discussed Trope.

Not to be confused with a simple Averted Trope, which has no prompting from any characters.

Also not to be confused with Deified Trope.

Examples of Defied Trope include:

Anime and Manga

  • Judai of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX says he realizes it's pointless to give a Kirk Summation to Yubel.
    • Also, when Alexis is encouraged to become an Idol Singer, she actively refuses to become one.
  • Contrasting the invoked Bodyguard Crush in Kaze no Stigma, Kazuma goes out of his way to keep Ayano at a distance and offend her as much as possible so she doesn't get attached to him either. It doesn't really work.
  • The second season of Princess Tutu is all about the characters defying the roles assigned to them by the writer of the story.
  • Johan Liebert from Monster defies the trope of being Obviously Evil, and on the surface, he seems like a really nice guy.
  • In the second Tiger and Bunny drama CD, Karina assures Barnaby that she has no intention of letting their animosity towards each other become Belligerent Sexual Tension. So far she's proven successful: not only is any attraction between them still absent, they're now competing with each other for Kotetsu's attention.

Karina: You know those situations where people hate each other's guts at first, but then developing feeling for each other?
Barnaby: Yeah?
Karina: That's not going to happen. I'll rip down those Event Flags myself if I have to.

  • At the end of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann A God Am I is deliberately shot down by the potential god-figure himself, who in response to his potential use of power and leadership simply states that he is "just Simon the Digger."
    • If that trope had not been defied, the Bad Ending from the beginning of the show would have happened.


Comic Books


Fan Fiction


Film

  • The Scream films are supposedly loaded with this, yet most Horror Tropes in them are usually played straight or lampshaded. One genuine instance is when the second of the two killers is apparently dead at the end of the first film. Randy Meeks says this is the moment when the killer comes back to life for one last scare. The killer promptly does, but Sidney, without flinching, puts a bullet in his head: "Not in my movie." Also used in the second film. Also in the second film, a black man leaves town when the bodies start piling up, because he knows "how long brothers last in these movies". He lives.
  • In Galaxy Quest, Guy is, in essence, a Defied Trope in character form.

Guy: Did you ever watch the show?


Literature

  • Done in It's Kind of a Funny Story, where the main character Craig refuses the possibility of heroin, because "If I were doing heroin, then I'd be a depressed teenager on heroin. I didn't need to be that cliché."
  • In Maskerade, once a series of murders begin happening at an opera house, the first thing they do is put extra guards on the giant chandelier, to keep it from being dropped on anybody.
  • The Screwtape Letters plays with, but ultimately defies the Deal with the Devil trope. Screwtape explains that it's fallen out of favor ever since Hell made the strategic switch from promoting Satanism to promoting atheism, which is seen as a safer bet.
  • The Warhammer 40000 novel Grey Knights notes that the Inquisition defies Never Found the Body in the case of Ghargatuloth; they sent the Grey Knight expedition down to Khorion IX instead of simply calling Exterminatus on it because they needed eyes on the ground to see him die.
  • The short story Another End Of The Empire by Tim Pratt features the Evil Overlord Mogrash who is told the following prophecy:

"A child dwells in the village of Misery Chin, in the mountain provinces to the east. If allowed to grow to manhood, he will take over your empire, overthrow your ways and means, and send you from the halls of your palace forever."


Live Action TV

The Master: Now then, Doctor! Ooh! New voice! ... Anyway, why don't we stop and have a nice little chat where I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me -- I don't think!


Video Games

  • Left 4 Dead has one of the guys who write the the saferoom graffiti proclaim that "WE ARE THE REAL MONSTERS". The guy underneath him says "No, that's the zombies".
    • Have you been outside JACKASS!!
    • I think it's them stupid
    • I hope you are DEAD now
    • I miss the internet
  • Capcom openly defied No Export for You when they worked to clear the legal hurdles and get Tatsunokovs Capcom localized overseas.
  • Evil Dead: Hail To The King was pretty much a straight up Resident Evil clone with an Evil Dead look, including the puzzles (though, thankfully, most were much less obtuse and nonsensical than RE). However, in the latter part of the game, Ash, in a cutscene, reads the plaque on a door. After noting the overly complicated puzzle mechanism required to open it, and just shoots the door open with his boomstick in the game's Crowning Moment of Funny.
  • In Freedom Fighters, you can prevent soviet reinforcements from coming in by blowing up the bridges their armored transport cars cross, and blowing up the helipads supplying assault and transport helicopters.
  • Dragon Age II presents this in the guise of one of the final Take a Third Option choices. A player actively seeking to achieve some sort of compromise between two factions is rewarded with a rather large "boom".
  • In Portal 2, the Final Boss defies Boss Arena Idiocy by studying the recordings of how you defeated the previous boss and deliberately setting up the arena to avoid those same mistakes. The trope is then zig zagged by having the boss make an entirely new set of glaringly obvious mistakes.

Wheatley: "I also took the liberty of studying the tapes of you killing her, and I am not going to make the same mistakes. Four-part plan is this: One, no portal surfaces. Two, start the neurotoxin immediately. Three, bomb-proof shields for me, leading directly into number four: bombs, for throwing at you. You know what, this plan is so foolproof that I'm going to give you a sporting chance and turn off the neurotoxin. I'm joking, of course. Goodbye."

    • And taken further at the end: "STEP FIVE! BOOBY-TRAP THE STALEMATE RESOLUTION BUTTON!"
    • Unfortunately for Wheatly, he failed to defy the final Crowning Moment of Awesome trope: Chell opening a portal right under him, with the other side on the surface of the moon.
  • Belle defies a Sadistic Choice in Kingdom Hearts II. Xaldin kidnaps her and takes the rose that can lift Beast's curse, forcing Beast to choose which he'll give back. Although Beast chooses for Belle to be safe, she elbows Xaldin, saving herself and the rose.
  • Baldur's Gate II: Irenicus: "No, you'll varrant no villain's exposition from me."


Web Comics

Rayne: I fell down some stairs.

Noel: No he didn't. I beat the shit out of him with a smile on my face.

Elan: Will I ever see you again?
Julio Scoundrél: Well, as an older mentor figure, the most likely scenario is that I'd return only to be randomly killed by an enemy of yours so that you can cradle my dying body while swearing revenge — so don't take it personally if I say I sincerely hope we never cross paths again.


Web Original


Western Animation

  • The Earthworm Jim episode "Hyper Psy-Crow" almost ends with a "Here We Go Again" ending (actually called that) after a Reset Button of the episode's events. Jim won't stand for it, and just drops a cow on Psy-Crow before he can enact his scheme again.
  • Attempted, but failed in the smoking episode of South Park. Kyle wants to just confess what they did to avoid the usual antics, and it doesn't work.
    • Done successfully in another episode. The main characters agree that they don't want to have any part in the episode's plot. They actually don't (letting secondary characters run the episode), and agree at the end that they're glad that they didn't get involved.
  • At the end of an episode of Darkwing Duck, he's forced to work with Quacker Jack, one of the regular villains, to stop a greater villain. When the greater villain is stopped, Quacker Jack asks if this is where they show the greater villain love and kindness, and he vows to mend his evil ways. Neither Quacker Jack, nor Darkwing think so. They just beat him down further.
  • Raven from Teen Titans is aware of the Bad Powers, Bad People trope, and despite the fact that her powers come from her demon father she does her best to be a good gal.
    • Jinx eventually does the same.
  • In the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic episode "The Best Night Ever", the ponies are running away from the chaos they've caused at the Grand Galloping Gala and Rarity drops her glass slipper. Pinkie Pie lampshades the trope of The Girl Who Fits This Slipper and Rarity, who has no interest in meeting Prince Blueblood ever again, screams and crushes the slipper into powder.


Real Life