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[[File:Crotch_Grab_2184.jpg|link=Hiimdaisy|right|[[Metal Gear Solid 2|YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER]]]]
[[File:Crotch Grab 2184.jpg|link=Hiimdaisy|frame|[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty|YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER]]]]




{{quote|'''Drew Carey:''' So 1000 points to everybody ''but'' Colin, because I was sitting the entire time... waiting for you to come over...<br />
{{quote|'''Drew Carey:''' So 1000 points to everybody ''but'' Colin, because I was sitting the entire time... waiting for you to come over...
'''Colin Mochrie:''' Oh, there's no doubt about you, my friend!|''[[Whose Line Is It Anyway (TV)|Whose Line Is It Anyway]]''}}
'''Colin Mochrie:''' Oh, there's no doubt about you, my friend!|''[[Whose Line Is It Anyway?|Whose Line Is It Anyway]]''}}


Let's say you've got someone with an [[Ambiguous Gender]] on your hands. Either the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady]] or the [[Lady Looks Like a Dude]]. The mystery is driving you [[Just for Pun|nuts]], so what's the fastest way to figure it out?
Let's say you've got someone with an [[Ambiguous Gender]] on your hands. Either the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady]] or the [[Lady Looks Like a Dude]]. The mystery is driving you [[Just for Pun|nuts]], so what's the fastest way to figure it out?
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Inspect the merchandise. ''By force.''
Inspect the merchandise. ''By force.''


When it's done to one's own self after a [[Gender Bender]], it's [[Man I Feel Like a Woman]].
When it's done to one's own self after a [[Gender Bender]], it's [[Man, I Feel Like a Woman]].


[[Do Not Try This At Home]]. It's called 'sexual assault' in the real world.
[[Do Not Try This At Home]]. It's called 'sexual assault' in the real world.
{{examples|Examples:}}


{{examples}}
== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho]]'': Yusuke figures that there's something a little off about a certain [[Femme Fatale]] opponent, so he pulls a reach-around mid-fight and finds that she's biologically male.
* ''[[Yu Yu Hakusho]]'': Yusuke figures that there's something a little off about a certain [[Femme Fatale]] opponent, so he pulls a reach-around mid-fight and finds that she's biologically male.
** In the [[Edited for Syndication]] American dub, all the references to the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|female fighter actually being a man]] were changed to the fighter being a [[Manipulative Bitch]] who fakes her injuries so she can make her male fighters feel guilty about beating up a woman -- and uses that moment of weakness to strike back.
** In the [[Edited for Syndication]] American dub, all the references to the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|female fighter actually being a man]] were changed to the fighter being a [[Manipulative Bitch]] who fakes her injuries so she can make her male fighters feel guilty about beating up a woman—and uses that moment of weakness to strike back.
* The young [[Dragonball|Goku]] had difficulty with the concept of males and females, so when meeting someone, he goes up and slaps his hand in the person's crotchular area, then triumphantly exclaims, "You're a boy/girl!" Notably, this causes Chi-Chi to ''push him off the Kinto'un in fright''!
* The young [[Dragon Ball|Goku]] had difficulty with the concept of males and females, so when meeting someone, he goes up and slaps his hand in the person's crotchular area, then triumphantly exclaims, "You're a boy/girl!" Notably, this causes Chi-Chi to ''push him off the Kinto'un in fright''!
** He first discovered this connection in the first place by pulling the panties off of a sleeping Bulma and realising that she's missing some parts that he has.
** He first discovered this connection in the first place by pulling the panties off of a sleeping Bulma and realising that she's missing some parts that he has.
** Kulilin managed to escape the treatment just by telling him beforehand that he's male.
** Kulilin managed to escape the treatment just by telling him beforehand that he's male.
* In season 2, episode 6 of ''[[Girls Bravo (Manga)|Girls Bravo]]'' Fukuyama doesn't realize a cross-dressing Yukinari is actually a guy until after he grabs his crotch.
* In season 2, episode 6 of ''[[Girls Bravo]]'' Fukuyama doesn't realize a cross-dressing Yukinari is actually a guy until after he grabs his crotch.
** Of course, in this case, he hadn't doubted that Yukinari was female yet.
** Of course, in this case, he hadn't doubted that Yukinari was female yet.
* This happens to Takatsuki, a male-transitioning-from-female [[Transsexual]], in ''[[Wandering Son]]'' once. It's [[Squick|Squicky]] being that he was around ''eleven'' then and the person who did it was an adult male (who later became his friend) who thought he was having an affair with his girlfriend. He puts on a brave front afterwards and holds in his tears.
* This happens to Takatsuki, a male-transitioning-from-female [[transgender]], in ''[[Wandering Son]]'' once. It's [[Squick]]y being that he was around ''eleven'' then and the person who did it was an adult male (who later became his friend) who thought he was having an affair with his girlfriend. He puts on a brave front afterwards and holds in his tears.
* In ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]'', Miaka rubs Hotohori's chest after finding out that Hotohori [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|was not a girl]]. She does it again with another character...just to be sure.
* In ''[[Fushigi Yuugi]]'', Miaka rubs Hotohori's chest after finding out that Hotohori [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|was not a girl]]. She does it again with another character...just to be sure.
** Even funnier, the second time she does this is to a woman who doesn't look even remotely masculine. Despite the fact that they had literally just met only seconds before, Miaka gropes her breasts purely on the basis that Hotohori and Nuriko have already fooled her before, and she "figures I have to check these days."
** Even funnier, the second time she does this is to a woman who doesn't look even remotely masculine. Despite the fact that they had literally just met only seconds before, Miaka gropes her breasts purely on the basis that Hotohori and Nuriko have already fooled her before, and she "figures I have to check these days."
* [[Steins Gate|Okabe]] does this to Ruka some time after {{spoiler|he changes his [[Gender Bender|gender]] with a D Mail}}
* [[Steins;Gate|Okabe]] does this to Ruka some time after {{spoiler|he changes his [[Gender Bender|gender]] with a D Mail}}
* [[Gintama (Manga)|Gintoki]] pulls this off in the most [[Badass]] way possible in chapter 375.
* [[Gintama|Gintoki]] pulls this off in the most [[Badass]] way possible in chapter 375.
* In ''[[Otome no Iroha (Manga)|Otome no Iroha]]'', Ryou checks Iroha's gender ([[Gender Bender|now male]]) this way the moment they first meet.
* In ''[[Otome no Iroha]]'', Ryou checks Iroha's gender ([[Gender Bender|now male]]) this way the moment they first meet.



== Film ==
== Film ==
* ''[[Crocodile Dundee]]'' has Mick flirting with a veiled woman. The cab driver he's been getting drunk with informs him that she's a biologically male. Mick walks right up and checks the crotch for the frank and beans. She, offended, stalks off. Later in the movie, Mick sees another rather ...handsome... woman and does it again. To his chagrin (and her delight), she's the got the full female package.
* ''[[Crocodile Dundee]]'' has Mick flirting with a veiled woman. The cab driver he's been getting drunk with informs him that she's a biologically male. Mick walks right up and checks the crotch for the frank and beans. She, offended, stalks off. Later in the movie, Mick sees another rather ...handsome... woman and does it again. To his chagrin (and her delight), she's the got the full female package.
* Occurs in two very different contexts in ''[[The King and The Clown (Film)|The King and The Clown]]''. One of the Seoul jesters gets groped by audience members for this reason whenever playing a eunuch or a woman. In a much more serious moment [[Hot Consort|Nok-su]] forcefully strips [[Bishonen|Gong-gil]] in a fit of [[Clingy Jealous Girl|jealousy]], claiming she wants to find out whether he's really a man or not.
* Occurs in two very different contexts in ''[[The King and the Clown]]''. One of the Seoul jesters gets groped by audience members for this reason whenever playing a eunuch or a woman. In a much more serious moment [[Hot Consort|Nok-su]] forcefully strips [[Bishonen|Gong-gil]] in a fit of [[Clingy Jealous Girl|jealousy]], claiming she wants to find out whether he's really a man or not.
* A variant occurs in ''[[Transamerica]]'' when pre-op transsexual Bree visits her mother. Her mother performs the grab in order to check that she's still physically male.
* A variant occurs in ''[[Transamerica]]'' when pre-op transgender Bree visits her mother. Her mother performs the grab in order to check that she's still physically male.
* Begbie in the film ''[[Trainspotting]]'' chats up a 'girl' at a club and takes her to his car to get to know her better. After 'inspecting the goods' he finds out she is a HE and kicks her out of his ride.
* Begbie in the film ''[[Trainspotting]]'' chats up a 'girl' at a club and takes her to his car to get to know her better. After 'inspecting the goods' he finds out she is a HE and kicks her out of his ride.



== Folklore ==
== Folklore ==
* The ''sedes stercoraria'' are seats upon which a new pope is enthroned, which have a hole in seat. A popular rumor says that these are so that the college of cardinals can test if the new pope is in fact male, or if he has mangled genitals. Most historians now believe that they were just chairs that the Papacy used because they belonged to the Imperial family.
* The ''sedes stercoraria'' are seats upon which a new pope is enthroned, which have a hole in seat. A popular rumor says that these are so that the college of cardinals can test if the new pope is in fact male, or if he has mangled genitals. Most historians now believe that they were just chairs that the Papacy used because they belonged to the Imperial family.
** The sex-check story is generally associated with the [[Sweet Polly Oliver|"Pope Joan"]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan historical legend] -- according to that story, the cardinals took this precaution against a recurrence.
** The sex-check story is generally associated with the [[Sweet Polly Oliver|"Pope Joan"]] [[wikipedia:Pope Joan|historical legend]]—according to that story, the cardinals took this precaution against a recurrence.



== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* In the Aidan Chambers book ''Postcards from No-Man's Land'' the main character meets someone he assumes is a girl, and they have coffee. At the end of the meeting, the "girl" figures out that the main character thinks this, and grabs the main character's hand and puts it on his crotch before leaving.
* In the Aidan Chambers book ''Postcards from No-Man's Land'' the main character meets someone he assumes is a girl, and they have coffee. At the end of the meeting, the "girl" figures out that the main character thinks this, and grabs the main character's hand and puts it on his crotch before leaving.



== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==
* In one episode of ''[[Law and Order SVU]]'', the investigators discover that the boyfriend of the perp [[Unsettling Gender Reveal|didn't know she was a preop transsexual]] when they tell him why she killed his best friend. He rushes in, grabs her crotch to see if it's true, and then overdoses on pills.
* In one episode of ''[[Law and Order SVU]]'', the investigators discover that the boyfriend of the perp [[Unsettling Gender Reveal|didn't know she was a preop transgender]] when they tell him why she killed his best friend. He rushes in, grabs her crotch to see if it's true, and then overdoses on pills.
* As quoted above, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2oqBO1K4pU this] Party Quirks game of ''[[Whose Line Is It Anyway (TV)|Whose Line Is It Anyway]]'' has a humorous version.
* As quoted above, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2oqBO1K4pU this] Party Quirks game of ''[[Whose Line Is It Anyway?|Whose Line Is It Anyway]]'' has a humorous version.
* Less invasive variant in ''[[Bones]]'' where the sex of an androgynous Japanese detective is determined by a firm hug.
* Less invasive variant in ''[[Bones]]'' where the sex of an androgynous Japanese detective is determined by a firm hug.
* Pat from ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' narrowly averted this a few times.
* Pat from ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' narrowly averted this a few times.
* In ''[[Casanova]]'', Casanova falls in love with Bellino, a male opera singer. He suspects that he's a girl and confronts him. He feels his chest and concludes that he's a girl. Bellino says it is a singer's condition. Casanova grabs his crotch and then runs off, he is a boy. Then later he comes back and tells him it doesn't matter and he still loves him. Turns out to be a false penis and a woman in disguise.
* In ''[[Casanova]]'', Casanova falls in love with Bellino, a male opera singer. He suspects that he's a girl and confronts him. He feels his chest and concludes that he's a girl. Bellino says it is a singer's condition. Casanova grabs his crotch and then runs off, he is a boy. Then later he comes back and tells him it doesn't matter and he still loves him. Turns out to be a false penis and a woman in disguise.



== Theatre ==
== Theatre ==
* In some productions of ''[[Cabaret]]'', this is how the MC tells Victor and Bobby apart. (Maybe Bobby is really a girl?)
* In some productions of ''[[Cabaret]]'', this is how the MC tells Victor and Bobby apart. (Maybe Bobby is really a girl?)



== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'': The president is a friendly guy. So friendly, in fact, that upon meeting bishounen hero Raiden, he decides to greet Raiden with a friendly cup check to make sure he's not a chick.
* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'': The president is a friendly guy. So friendly, in fact, that upon meeting bishounen hero Raiden, he decides to greet Raiden with a friendly cup check to make sure he's not a chick.
** An extremely elongated, gentle cup check. You know you've been playing Metal Gear too long when things like that stop seeming strange.
** An extremely elongated, gentle cup check. You know you've been playing Metal Gear too long when things like that stop seeming strange.
** The above picture is a [[Hiimdaisy|fan]]'s version of this very scene.
** The above picture is a [[Hiimdaisy|fan]]'s version of this very scene.
{{quote| '''Raiden:''' YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER.}}
{{quote|'''Raiden:''' YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER.}}
* There was a similar example to the ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'' example in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3]]'': Volgin grabs Ivan's ({{spoiler|or Big Boss'}}) crotch to check not just the gender, but whether it's genuinely Ivan.
* There was a similar example to the ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'' example in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'': Volgin grabs Ivan's ({{spoiler|or Big Boss'}}) crotch to check not just the gender, but whether it's genuinely Ivan.
** That's because the man knows his crotches.
** That's because the man knows his crotches.
** Especially those of [[Depraved Bisexual|men he sleeps with.]]
** Especially those of [[Depraved Bisexual|men he sleeps with.]]
* ''[[Disgaea 4 a Promise Unforgotten (Video Game)|Disgaea 4]]'': Jokingly invoked and [[I Was Just Joking|then]] defied by the same person, when you talk with the thief in the Campain Board.
* ''[[Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten|Disgaea 4]]'': Jokingly invoked and [[I Was Just Joking|then]] defied by the same person, when you talk with the thief in the Campain Board.
{{quote| '''Thief:''' "[[Ambiguous Gender|My gender?]] Why don't you have a little poke and find out for yourself? ...Wah! I wasn't being serious! I'm [[Ambiguous Gender|tot]][[Defied Trope|ally]] a girl, I swear!"}}
{{quote|'''Thief:''' "[[Ambiguous Gender|My gender?]] Why don't you have a little poke and find out for yourself? ...Wah! I wasn't being serious! I'm [[Ambiguous Gender|tot]][[Defied Trope|ally]] a girl, I swear!"}}



== Webcomics ==
== Web Comics ==
* An accidental example occurs in ''[[Drow Tales]]'' when [[Sweet Polly Oliver|Ariel]] is in a fighting class and another student goes for the groin, [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=208&overview=1&chibi=1&cover=1&extra=1&page=1&check=1 only to discover that what he expects to be there isn't]. This alerts him that something is up and later outs her as a girl.
* An accidental example occurs in ''[[Drowtales]]'' when [[Sweet Polly Oliver|Ariel]] is in a fighting class and another student goes for the groin, [https://web.archive.org/web/20130728195449/http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=208&overview=1&chibi=1&cover=1&extra=1&page=1&check=1 only to discover that what he expects to be there isn't]. This alerts him that something is up and later outs her as a girl.
* In one of Kate's pre-[[Awkward Zombie]] [http://hail-nekoyasha.deviantart.com/gallery/#/de5sim strips], [[The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|Link]] decides to try this on Sheik [[For Science]]. Unfortunately, since he actually used a [[Groin Attack]], it didn't prove anything.
* In one of Kate's pre-[[Awkward Zombie]] [http://hail-nekoyasha.deviantart.com/gallery/#/de5sim strips], [[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Link]] decides to try this on Sheik [[For Science!]]. Unfortunately, since he actually used a [[Groin Attack]], it didn't prove anything.


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Latest revision as of 06:31, 25 February 2023

YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER


Drew Carey: So 1000 points to everybody but Colin, because I was sitting the entire time... waiting for you to come over...

Colin Mochrie: Oh, there's no doubt about you, my friend!

Let's say you've got someone with an Ambiguous Gender on your hands. Either the Dude Looks Like a Lady or the Lady Looks Like a Dude. The mystery is driving you nuts, so what's the fastest way to figure it out?

Inspect the merchandise. By force.

When it's done to one's own self after a Gender Bender, it's Man, I Feel Like a Woman.

Do Not Try This At Home. It's called 'sexual assault' in the real world.

Examples of Crotch Grab Sex Check include:

Anime and Manga

  • Yu Yu Hakusho: Yusuke figures that there's something a little off about a certain Femme Fatale opponent, so he pulls a reach-around mid-fight and finds that she's biologically male.
  • The young Goku had difficulty with the concept of males and females, so when meeting someone, he goes up and slaps his hand in the person's crotchular area, then triumphantly exclaims, "You're a boy/girl!" Notably, this causes Chi-Chi to push him off the Kinto'un in fright!
    • He first discovered this connection in the first place by pulling the panties off of a sleeping Bulma and realising that she's missing some parts that he has.
    • Kulilin managed to escape the treatment just by telling him beforehand that he's male.
  • In season 2, episode 6 of Girls Bravo Fukuyama doesn't realize a cross-dressing Yukinari is actually a guy until after he grabs his crotch.
    • Of course, in this case, he hadn't doubted that Yukinari was female yet.
  • This happens to Takatsuki, a male-transitioning-from-female transgender, in Wandering Son once. It's Squicky being that he was around eleven then and the person who did it was an adult male (who later became his friend) who thought he was having an affair with his girlfriend. He puts on a brave front afterwards and holds in his tears.
  • In Fushigi Yuugi, Miaka rubs Hotohori's chest after finding out that Hotohori was not a girl. She does it again with another character...just to be sure.
    • Even funnier, the second time she does this is to a woman who doesn't look even remotely masculine. Despite the fact that they had literally just met only seconds before, Miaka gropes her breasts purely on the basis that Hotohori and Nuriko have already fooled her before, and she "figures I have to check these days."
  • Okabe does this to Ruka some time after he changes his gender with a D Mail
  • Gintoki pulls this off in the most Badass way possible in chapter 375.
  • In Otome no Iroha, Ryou checks Iroha's gender (now male) this way the moment they first meet.

Film

  • Crocodile Dundee has Mick flirting with a veiled woman. The cab driver he's been getting drunk with informs him that she's a biologically male. Mick walks right up and checks the crotch for the frank and beans. She, offended, stalks off. Later in the movie, Mick sees another rather ...handsome... woman and does it again. To his chagrin (and her delight), she's the got the full female package.
  • Occurs in two very different contexts in The King and the Clown. One of the Seoul jesters gets groped by audience members for this reason whenever playing a eunuch or a woman. In a much more serious moment Nok-su forcefully strips Gong-gil in a fit of jealousy, claiming she wants to find out whether he's really a man or not.
  • A variant occurs in Transamerica when pre-op transgender Bree visits her mother. Her mother performs the grab in order to check that she's still physically male.
  • Begbie in the film Trainspotting chats up a 'girl' at a club and takes her to his car to get to know her better. After 'inspecting the goods' he finds out she is a HE and kicks her out of his ride.

Folklore

  • The sedes stercoraria are seats upon which a new pope is enthroned, which have a hole in seat. A popular rumor says that these are so that the college of cardinals can test if the new pope is in fact male, or if he has mangled genitals. Most historians now believe that they were just chairs that the Papacy used because they belonged to the Imperial family.
    • The sex-check story is generally associated with the "Pope Joan" historical legend—according to that story, the cardinals took this precaution against a recurrence.

Literature

  • In the Aidan Chambers book Postcards from No-Man's Land the main character meets someone he assumes is a girl, and they have coffee. At the end of the meeting, the "girl" figures out that the main character thinks this, and grabs the main character's hand and puts it on his crotch before leaving.

Live Action TV

  • In one episode of Law and Order SVU, the investigators discover that the boyfriend of the perp didn't know she was a preop transgender when they tell him why she killed his best friend. He rushes in, grabs her crotch to see if it's true, and then overdoses on pills.
  • As quoted above, this Party Quirks game of Whose Line Is It Anyway has a humorous version.
  • Less invasive variant in Bones where the sex of an androgynous Japanese detective is determined by a firm hug.
  • Pat from Saturday Night Live narrowly averted this a few times.
  • In Casanova, Casanova falls in love with Bellino, a male opera singer. He suspects that he's a girl and confronts him. He feels his chest and concludes that he's a girl. Bellino says it is a singer's condition. Casanova grabs his crotch and then runs off, he is a boy. Then later he comes back and tells him it doesn't matter and he still loves him. Turns out to be a false penis and a woman in disguise.

Theatre

  • In some productions of Cabaret, this is how the MC tells Victor and Bobby apart. (Maybe Bobby is really a girl?)

Video Games

  • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty: The president is a friendly guy. So friendly, in fact, that upon meeting bishounen hero Raiden, he decides to greet Raiden with a friendly cup check to make sure he's not a chick.
    • An extremely elongated, gentle cup check. You know you've been playing Metal Gear too long when things like that stop seeming strange.
    • The above picture is a fan's version of this very scene.

Raiden: YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER.

Thief: "My gender? Why don't you have a little poke and find out for yourself? ...Wah! I wasn't being serious! I'm totally a girl, I swear!"

Web Comics