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[[File:big_beautiful_man_5543.jpg|frame|link=http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=3650000|[[Stupid Sexy Flanders|You have to admit]], [[Even the Guys Want Him|he looks cuddly]].]]
[[File:big beautiful man 5543.jpg|frame|link=http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=3650000|[[Stupid Sexy Flanders|You have to admit]], [[Even the Guys Want Him|he looks cuddly]].]]
A [[Big Beautiful Man]] is noticeably chubby, and perhaps even obese, and yet considered genuinely beautiful and voluptuous for it.
A '''Big Beautiful Man''' is noticeably chubby, and perhaps even obese, and yet considered genuinely beautiful and voluptuous for it.


This trope was more common centuries ago, when having some extra body fat meant people were seen as healthier (as opposed to typically malnourished masses), and was also a sign of affluence. People could truly be [[Fat and Proud]]. It has become more of a [[Forgotten Trope]] over time as most societies have themselves become more affluent and has access to more and healthier varieties of food. Such large-set people are not as usually considered as attractive by today's audience or in today's works, where they would more likely be considered [[Fat Slob|Fat Slobs]] for their girth.
This trope was more common centuries ago, when having some extra body fat meant people were seen as healthier (as opposed to typically malnourished masses), and was also a sign of affluence. People could truly be [[Fat and Proud]]. It has become more of a [[Forgotten Trope]] over time as most societies have themselves become more affluent and has access to more and healthier varieties of food. Such large-set people are not as usually considered as attractive by today's audience or in today's works, where they would more likely be considered [[Fat Slob]]s for their girth.


But while this is mostly true for women, it becomes a [[Double Standard]] with men. The sheer size of the [[Ugly Guy, Hot Wife]] page shows that Hollywood is more likely to let a fat man attract a lover with his personality and sense of humor. But per [[Rule of Funny]], their beauty in another character's eyes is usually an [[Informed Attractiveness]] that doesn't even pretend to try to resonate with the audience.
But while this is mostly true for women, it becomes a [[Double Standard]] with men. The sheer size of the [[Ugly Guy, Hot Wife]] page shows that Hollywood is more likely to let a fat man attract a lover with his personality and sense of humor. But per [[Rule of Funny]], their beauty in another character's eyes is usually an [[Informed Attractiveness]] that doesn't even pretend to try to resonate with the audience.


A very notable exception is in works that appeal to gay men. Chubby men are not ''always'' considered attractive in the gay community, especially in contexts where [[The Twink]] or the [[Bishonen]] are considered the more marketable standard of beauty (ie, the majority of Western and Japanese works featuring gay men), and the rule of [[Hollywood Pudgy]] is in full force. But there is a sizable niche interest that finds them sexy and even [[Moe]] -- these people are termed (for better or for worse) "chubby chasers". Among these include [[The Bear]] community, where [[Carpet of Virility|body hair]] is the chief point of attractiveness, but most sexy chubbiness is also usually the order of the day.
A very notable exception is in works that appeal to gay men. Chubby men are not ''always'' considered attractive in the gay community, especially in contexts where [[The Twink]] or the [[Bishonen]] are considered the more marketable standard of beauty (ie, the majority of Western and Japanese works featuring gay men), and the rule of [[Hollywood Pudgy]] is in full force. But there is a sizable niche interest that finds them sexy and even [[Moe]]—these people are termed (for better or for worse) "chubby chasers". Among these include [[The Bear]] community, where [[Carpet of Virility|body hair]] is the chief point of attractiveness, but most sexy chubbiness is also usually the order of the day.


The trope can also still be [[Played for Laughs]] when a chubby character sees himself as a [[Big Beautiful Man]]. Even then, it still often manages to come off as [[Screw Yourself|gay-for-oneself]].
The trope can also still be [[Played for Laughs]] when a chubby character sees himself as a '''Big Beautiful Man'''. Even then, it still often manages to come off as [[Screw Yourself|gay-for-oneself]].


[[Fan Yay]] often gives [[Big Beautiful Man]] status to characters that were not (specifically) intended as such. This can apply to [[Rule 34|practically any chubby character]]. Even [[Santa Claus]] is not immune.
[[Fan Yay]] often gives '''Big Beautiful Man''' status to characters that were not (specifically) intended as such. This can apply to [[Rule 34|practically any chubby character]]. Even [[Santa Claus]] is not immune.


The [[Spear Counterpart]] of [[Big Beautiful Woman]]. [[Big Beautiful Man]] can overlap to some degree with [[Acrofatic]], [[Bara]], [[The Bear]], [[Big Fun]], [[The Big Guy]], [[Fat and Proud]], [[Hollywood Pudgy]] and [[Stout Strength]]. In fact, this trope overlaps with [[The Bear]] ''so often'' that some people consider them the same trope -- except that technically this trope is about body fat and the other trope is about body hair.
The [[Spear Counterpart]] of [[Big Beautiful Woman]]. '''Big Beautiful Man''' can overlap to some degree with [[Acrofatic]], [[Bara]], [[The Bear]], [[Big Fun]], [[The Big Guy]], [[Fat and Proud]], [[Hollywood Pudgy]] and [[Stout Strength]]. In fact, this trope overlaps with [[The Bear]] ''so often'' that some people consider them the same trope—except that technically this trope is about body fat and the other trope is about body hair.


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=== The following works have featured a Big Beautiful Man: ===
=== The following works have featured a Big Beautiful Man ===


== Anime and manga ==
== Anime and manga ==
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== Comic Books ==
== Comic Books ==
* ''[[Circles]]'' has at least two of these. Marty is a chubby skunk who is at first timid about his weight, but his new roommate [[Performance Artist|Taye]] actually finds him incredibly sexy, like a teddy bear, for which [[Gym Bunny|Ken]] derides him as a "chubby chaser". Then there's Arthur, the artistic [[Basement Dweller]] -- he's a...bear (both [[wikipedia:Bear (gay culture)|socially]] and [[Petting Zoo People|literally]]), now in his 40s, who helps reassure Marty that there's nothing wrong with being portly.
* ''[[Circles]]'' has at least two of these. Marty is a chubby skunk who is at first timid about his weight, but his new roommate [[Performance Artist|Taye]] actually finds him incredibly sexy, like a teddy bear, for which [[Gym Bunny|Ken]] derides him as a "chubby chaser". Then there's Arthur, the artistic [[Basement Dweller]]—he's a...bear (both [[wikipedia:Bear (gay culture)|socially]] and [[Petting Zoo People|literally]]), now in his 40s, who helps reassure Marty that there's nothing wrong with being portly.
* ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'': Dan Dreiberg. Once he stopped crimefighting, Dreiberg presumably stopped getting his usual exercise (read: thrashing bad guys) and put on some weight. Under that, though, he's still quite strong, and he has a pretty handsome face to go with it. [[Adorkable|The glasses don't make it any worse]].
* ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'': Dan Dreiberg. Once he stopped crimefighting, Dreiberg presumably stopped getting his usual exercise (read: thrashing bad guys) and put on some weight. Under that, though, he's still quite strong, and he has a pretty handsome face to go with it. [[Adorkable|The glasses don't make it any worse]].
** Same said for [[Blue Beetle]] Ted Kord during his chubby period (a kind of recursive tribute, since Dreiberg was based on Kord).
** Same said for [[Blue Beetle]] Ted Kord during his chubby period (a kind of recursive tribute, since Dreiberg was based on Kord).
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== Web Comics ==
== Web Comics ==
* Burt in ''[[Carpe Diem]]'' is a [[Big Beautiful Man]] who also has [[Stout Strength]] as a power-lifter. Rodney is a [[Geek Physiques|fat geek]], but his brawny boyfriend Ken wouldn't have it any other way.
* Burt in ''[[Carpe Diem]]'' is a Big Beautiful Man who also has [[Stout Strength]] as a power-lifter. Rodney is a [[Geek Physiques|fat geek]], but his brawny boyfriend Ken wouldn't have it any other way.
* Brad in ''[[The Class Menagerie]]'' is both muscled and has a noticeable gut, specifically by [[Author Appeal]].
* Brad in ''[[The Class Menagerie]]'' is both muscled and has a noticeable gut, specifically by [[Author Appeal]].
* Many of the guys in ''[[Blur the Lines]]'' fit this trope, which makes sense, considering half of the webcomic's reason for existing is for [[Author Appeal]], and the author prefers big men.
* Many of the guys in ''[[Blur the Lines]]'' fit this trope, which makes sense, considering half of the webcomic's reason for existing is for [[Author Appeal]], and the author prefers big men.
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== Web Original ==
== Web Original ==
* While [[That Guy With The Glasses]] has a lot of [[Mr. Fanservice|conventionally good-looking]], slim guys (Benzaie, [[Doug Walker]], Paw, Y Ruler Of Time, etc.), the big men like [[Rollo T]], former contributor [[Lord Kat]] <ref> who knows his way around a strawberry</ref>, and to some, Sean Fausz, get a lot of love too.
* While [[That Guy With The Glasses]] has a lot of [[Mr. Fanservice|conventionally good-looking]], slim guys (Benzaie, [[Doug Walker]], Paw, Y Ruler Of Time, etc.), the big men like [[Rollo T]], former contributor [[Lord Kat]],<ref>who knows his way around a strawberry</ref> and to some, Sean Fausz, get a lot of love too.
** [[Atop the Fourth Wall|Linkara]].
** [[Atop the Fourth Wall|Linkara]].



Revision as of 16:05, 23 February 2015

You have to admit, he looks cuddly.

A Big Beautiful Man is noticeably chubby, and perhaps even obese, and yet considered genuinely beautiful and voluptuous for it.

This trope was more common centuries ago, when having some extra body fat meant people were seen as healthier (as opposed to typically malnourished masses), and was also a sign of affluence. People could truly be Fat and Proud. It has become more of a Forgotten Trope over time as most societies have themselves become more affluent and has access to more and healthier varieties of food. Such large-set people are not as usually considered as attractive by today's audience or in today's works, where they would more likely be considered Fat Slobs for their girth.

But while this is mostly true for women, it becomes a Double Standard with men. The sheer size of the Ugly Guy, Hot Wife page shows that Hollywood is more likely to let a fat man attract a lover with his personality and sense of humor. But per Rule of Funny, their beauty in another character's eyes is usually an Informed Attractiveness that doesn't even pretend to try to resonate with the audience.

A very notable exception is in works that appeal to gay men. Chubby men are not always considered attractive in the gay community, especially in contexts where The Twink or the Bishonen are considered the more marketable standard of beauty (ie, the majority of Western and Japanese works featuring gay men), and the rule of Hollywood Pudgy is in full force. But there is a sizable niche interest that finds them sexy and even Moe—these people are termed (for better or for worse) "chubby chasers". Among these include The Bear community, where body hair is the chief point of attractiveness, but most sexy chubbiness is also usually the order of the day.

The trope can also still be Played for Laughs when a chubby character sees himself as a Big Beautiful Man. Even then, it still often manages to come off as gay-for-oneself.

Fan Yay often gives Big Beautiful Man status to characters that were not (specifically) intended as such. This can apply to practically any chubby character. Even Santa Claus is not immune.

The Spear Counterpart of Big Beautiful Woman. Big Beautiful Man can overlap to some degree with Acrofatic, Bara, The Bear, Big Fun, The Big Guy, Fat and Proud, Hollywood Pudgy and Stout Strength. In fact, this trope overlaps with The Bear so often that some people consider them the same trope—except that technically this trope is about body fat and the other trope is about body hair.

No Real Life Examples, Please


The following works have featured a Big Beautiful Man

Anime and manga

Comic Books

  • Circles has at least two of these. Marty is a chubby skunk who is at first timid about his weight, but his new roommate Taye actually finds him incredibly sexy, like a teddy bear, for which Ken derides him as a "chubby chaser". Then there's Arthur, the artistic Basement Dweller—he's a...bear (both socially and literally), now in his 40s, who helps reassure Marty that there's nothing wrong with being portly.
  • Watchmen: Dan Dreiberg. Once he stopped crimefighting, Dreiberg presumably stopped getting his usual exercise (read: thrashing bad guys) and put on some weight. Under that, though, he's still quite strong, and he has a pretty handsome face to go with it. The glasses don't make it any worse.
    • Same said for Blue Beetle Ted Kord during his chubby period (a kind of recursive tribute, since Dreiberg was based on Kord).
  • Bouncing Boy from Legion of Super-Heroes, especially his reboot counterpart Chuck Taine.
  • Cornfed from Livewires.


Literature


Live Action TV

  • Dave Karofsky has had a very outspoken Gay male fan base since the episode "Never Been Kissed," many of who simply prefer men of his build.
  • Noah's Arc: Alex sees himself this way (and Trey agrees). Additionally, like the example above, much of the fanbase does prefer a man of his build.


Web Comics


Video Games


Web Original

Western Animation

  1. who knows his way around a strawberry