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{{quote|''There are ''no'' inconsistencies in the [[Discworld]] books; occasionally, however, [[No Except Yes|there are alternate pasts]].''|'''[[Terry Pratchett]]''' on alt.fan.pratchett, wearing his Watsonian hat.}}
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'''Watsonian''' or '''in-universe''' commentary takes the reality of a work as given, and thus restricts itself to making statements that are sensible within that reality. Watsonian explanations are things like "Character X was lying", "He had plastic surgery over the summer", and "The main character fell off a cliff". A more precise technical term for this is ''[[intradiegetic]]''. Tropes which take a generally Watsonian perspective include:
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Sometimes a Doylist explanation is interjected purposely into a narrative; for example, in ''[[Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]'' the Knights of the Round Table (or what is left of them) are chased by the Legendary Black Beast of AAAAAAAARGH in the common surreal [[Terry Gilliam]] style transitional animation. Fortunately for the heroes, when there is apparently no chance of escape the narrator explains that the animator suffered from a fatal heart attack—a beast that [[Giant Space Flea From Nowhere|arises out of nowhere]] and is killed by a surrealist [[Deus Ex Machina]] coming from a Doylist inclusion in the narrative.
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In German-speaking fandom of Disney's Duck comics, the two ways of analyzing the stories are called ''Donaldismus literaricus'' (which treats the work of Carl Barks and others as works of art and literature) and ''Donaldismus archaeologicus'' (which treats them as factual reports from the Earth-like planet called ''Stella Anatium''—the Star of the Ducks). In the D.O.N.A.L.D. (''Deutsche Organisation Nichtkommerzieller Anhänger des lauteren Donaldismus'' = German Organization of Non-Commercial Adherents of True Donaldism) the latter tends to dominate. ''[[Donald Duck]]'' comics are [[Serious Business]], definitely.▼
== [[Comic Books]] ==
▲* In German-speaking fandom of Disney's Duck comics, the two ways of analyzing the stories are called ''Donaldismus literaricus'' (which treats the work of Carl Barks and others as works of art and literature) and ''Donaldismus archaeologicus'' (which treats them as factual reports from the Earth-like planet called ''Stella Anatium''—the Star of the Ducks). In the [[Fun with Acronyms|D.O.N.A.L.D.]] (''Deutsche Organisation Nichtkommerzieller Anhänger des lauteren Donaldismus'' = German Organization of Non-Commercial Adherents of True Donaldism) the latter tends to dominate. ''[[Donald Duck]]'' comics are [[Serious Business]], definitely.
== [[Fan Works]] ==
* ''[[My Apartment Manager is not an Isekai Character]]'': One character was magically twinned the in-universe day after she arrived. The Watsonian explanation is that she was alone, surrounded by people she was accustomed to thinking of as enemies, and desperate for somebody to talk with who understands her; the Doylist explanation is that two writers wanted to write the same character.
** Similarly, [http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=14519 one short-short story] was written to give a Watsonian explanation for why [[Haruhi Suzumiya]] doesn't appear in the setting (despite being admirably suited to it), when the Doylist explanation is simply none of the authors wanted to write anything with her and her supporting characters.
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