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* In ''[[Lufia]] II'', the "Sea Ring" is strong against "Sea Creatures", but the programmers didn't flag any monsters as "Sea Creatures".
* In ''[[Lufia]] II'', the "Sea Ring" is strong against "Sea Creatures", but the programmers didn't flag any monsters as "Sea Creatures".
** Again in the same game, there is a Capsule monster with "Soil" attacks. There are no monsters with the "Soil" flag set.
** Again in the same game, there is a Capsule monster with "Soil" attacks. There are no monsters with the "Soil" flag set.
* The "Ghost" and "Dragon" Pokémon [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors|types]] during ''[[Pokémon Red and Blue (Video Game)|Pokémon Red and Blue]]''. Subsequent generations have made much progress in balancing out elemental types and attacks.
* The "Ghost" and "Dragon" Pokémon [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors|types]] during ''[[Pokémon Red and Blue]]''. Subsequent generations have made much progress in balancing out elemental types and attacks.
** "Ghost" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against Psychic types, but out of three Ghost type moves available in the first generation, one was a status attack, another only inflicted fixed damage, and the third was ''completely ineffective'' against Psychics due to a glitch in the [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]] chart. Worse, the only Ghost-type pokémon in the first generation were also part Poison, making them vulnerable to Psychic attacks themselves. Finally, the strongest first-generation pokémon (Mewtwo) was also a Psychic, making the Psychic elemental type an overall [[Game Breaker]].
** "Ghost" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against Psychic types, but out of three Ghost type moves available in the first generation, one was a status attack, another only inflicted fixed damage, and the third was ''completely ineffective'' against Psychics due to a glitch in the [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]] chart. Worse, the only Ghost-type pokémon in the first generation were also part Poison, making them vulnerable to Psychic attacks themselves. Finally, the strongest first-generation pokémon (Mewtwo) was also a Psychic, making the Psychic elemental type an overall [[Game Breaker]].
*** The ''other'' type that psychic Pokémon were supposedly weak against, the Bug type, consisted primarily of status attacks, and most of the Pokémon who learned any effective Bug-type attacks were partly Poison themselves.
*** The ''other'' type that psychic Pokémon were supposedly weak against, the Bug type, consisted primarily of status attacks, and most of the Pokémon who learned any effective Bug-type attacks were partly Poison themselves.
*** Bug types in general were pretty weak in that game.
*** Bug types in general were pretty weak in that game.
** "Dragon" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against other Dragons, but the sole "Dragon" type move in the first generation inflicted fixed damage, ignoring elemental type bonuses and making it almost useless against the [[Final Boss|sole Dragon-themed trainer]] in the game.
** "Dragon" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against other Dragons, but the sole "Dragon" type move in the first generation inflicted fixed damage, ignoring elemental type bonuses and making it almost useless against the [[Final Boss|sole Dragon-themed trainer]] in the game.
* Infamously, the Anti-MUTE spell in the original ''[[Final Fantasy I (Video Game)|Final Fantasy]]'' is completely useless since there are no enemies in the game that can inflict MUTE status on your party.
* Infamously, the Anti-MUTE spell in the original ''[[Final Fantasy I|Final Fantasy]]'' is completely useless since there are no enemies in the game that can inflict MUTE status on your party.
** Moreover the original [[NES]] version suffered from numerous internal bugs that included rendering certain spells (LOCK and XFER, for example) absolutely useless, and ignoring attack bonuses for weapons that were intended to be elemental or monster-specific (Giant Sword vs. giants, Were Sword vs. werebeasts, etc.).
** Moreover the original [[NES]] version suffered from numerous internal bugs that included rendering certain spells (LOCK and XFER, for example) absolutely useless, and ignoring attack bonuses for weapons that were intended to be elemental or monster-specific (Giant Sword vs. giants, Were Sword vs. werebeasts, etc.).
* ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' is ''horrible'' for this. The game practically throws debuff protection at you, but the only debuff that shows up with any regularity is the near-harmless poison. That each accessory only guards against one debuff and starts<ref>all items can be upgraded</ref> with a 30% protection rate only makes it worse.
* ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' is ''horrible'' for this. The game practically throws debuff protection at you, but the only debuff that shows up with any regularity is the near-harmless poison. That each accessory only guards against one debuff and starts<ref>all items can be upgraded</ref> with a 30% protection rate only makes it worse.
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* In ''[[World of Warcraft]]'', there is a troll vendor in Shattrath City who sells you various trinkets that are supposedly good at repelling certain mobs, none of which exist.
* In ''[[World of Warcraft]]'', there is a troll vendor in Shattrath City who sells you various trinkets that are supposedly good at repelling certain mobs, none of which exist.
** Griftah actually sells a whole variety of items, most of which do exactly what they claim to, but are nonetheless completely useless. However, one item he sells that has no use listed in its tooltip is a part you'll need to build a really cool device.
** Griftah actually sells a whole variety of items, most of which do exactly what they claim to, but are nonetheless completely useless. However, one item he sells that has no use listed in its tooltip is a part you'll need to build a really cool device.
* ''[[Castlevania Symphony of the Night]]'' has plenty of weapons with obscure bonuses, one of which [the Were-Bane] gives bonuses against Were-Beasts. Unfortunately there's only one Were creature in the game (the Werewolf) and although a mini-boss originally, by the time you get this weapon is encountered as just as a random grunt in one specific area and is not much of a challenge as you're now a much higher level, and there's plenty of weapons with much higher base damage that eclipse the bonus you'd get anyway. On top of this, though, the sword is glitched, in that ''it does absolutely zero extra damage to them anyway!'' Mind you, the sword isn't /completely/ useless, as it's QCF+Attack move is a flurry of thrusts in the same vein as the Rapier's, and Were-Bane is stronger than the Rapier. It makes for a good off-hand weapon if you decide to forgo two-handed weapons and shields.
* ''[[Castlevania: Symphony of the Night]]'' has plenty of weapons with obscure bonuses, one of which [the Were-Bane] gives bonuses against Were-Beasts. Unfortunately there's only one Were creature in the game (the Werewolf) and although a mini-boss originally, by the time you get this weapon is encountered as just as a random grunt in one specific area and is not much of a challenge as you're now a much higher level, and there's plenty of weapons with much higher base damage that eclipse the bonus you'd get anyway. On top of this, though, the sword is glitched, in that ''it does absolutely zero extra damage to them anyway!'' Mind you, the sword isn't /completely/ useless, as it's QCF+Attack move is a flurry of thrusts in the same vein as the Rapier's, and Were-Bane is stronger than the Rapier. It makes for a good off-hand weapon if you decide to forgo two-handed weapons and shields.
* Another deliberate/parody example: The official ''[[Girl Genius]]'' card game includes a Vampire Hunter card that affects only Vampire cards. There are no Vampire cards. (Just as the series itself contains a vampire hunter, but no vampires.)
* Another deliberate/parody example: The official ''[[Girl Genius]]'' card game includes a Vampire Hunter card that affects only Vampire cards. There are no Vampire cards. (Just as the series itself contains a vampire hunter, but no vampires.)
** Though there are no vampires, there is a card that, by the rules (explicitly: it is used as an example of the card game's literal text-based mechanism for determining to what cards the "Instructions" on a given card apply) ''counts'' as one: the Vampire Hunter card.
** Though there are no vampires, there is a card that, by the rules (explicitly: it is used as an example of the card game's literal text-based mechanism for determining to what cards the "Instructions" on a given card apply) ''counts'' as one: the Vampire Hunter card.
* ''Fable'' (the 1996 point and click adventure, not the newer action RPG series) was absolutely chock full of items that are never used. Whether their uses were [[Dummied Out]] or they were never intended to be used and served only as red herrings is unknown.
* ''Fable'' (the 1996 point and click adventure, not the newer action RPG series) was absolutely chock full of items that are never used. Whether their uses were [[Dummied Out]] or they were never intended to be used and served only as red herrings is unknown.
* ''[[Legend of Dragoon]]'' features three useless key items that serve no purpose other than [[Hundred-Percent Completion]]- the War Bulletin, Lavitz's Portrait, and Kate's Bouquet.
* ''[[Legend of Dragoon]]'' features three useless key items that serve no purpose other than [[Hundred-Percent Completion]]- the War Bulletin, Lavitz's Portrait, and Kate's Bouquet.
* Back in the day, the ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh]]'' card game had a bunch of cards that were only useful against one specific card. Not a specific type of card, not a specific group of named cards, but a single, solitary card. 10 years later, most of the cards they were useful against have been banned, leaving them with no use whatsoever (except if they're monsters, in which case they might as well be effectless). Even before then, the cards in question were limited to 1, so there wasn't much chance of being used in fans' eyes, anyway.
* Back in the day, the ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' card game had a bunch of cards that were only useful against one specific card. Not a specific type of card, not a specific group of named cards, but a single, solitary card. 10 years later, most of the cards they were useful against have been banned, leaving them with no use whatsoever (except if they're monsters, in which case they might as well be effectless). Even before then, the cards in question were limited to 1, so there wasn't much chance of being used in fans' eyes, anyway.
* In ''[[Secret of Evermore (Video Game)|Secret of Evermore]]'', the Magic Gourd literally has no effect on anything. Even the programmers couldn't remember what it was supposed to do.
* In ''[[Secret of Evermore]]'', the Magic Gourd literally has no effect on anything. Even the programmers couldn't remember what it was supposed to do.
* It's quite possible to go through the entire game without ever getting a status ailment in ''[[Cosmic Fantasy (Video Game)|Cosmic Fantasy]] 2''. Given this, the ailment remedies and accessories that cure and prevent such remedies are a waste of inventory space.
* It's quite possible to go through the entire game without ever getting a status ailment in ''[[Cosmic Fantasy]] 2''. Given this, the ailment remedies and accessories that cure and prevent such remedies are a waste of inventory space.
* In the original SNES version of ''[[Final Fantasy VI (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VI]]'', the 'goggles' item prevented the 'blind' status effect, which did exist, and there were enemies that used it, but due to a glitch the effect did nothing to you at all. The only thing the being blinded effect was it prevented Strago [[Blue Mage|from learning lores cast in battle.]] One might say [[The Goggles Do Nothing]].
* In the original SNES version of ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'', the 'goggles' item prevented the 'blind' status effect, which did exist, and there were enemies that used it, but due to a glitch the effect did nothing to you at all. The only thing the being blinded effect was it prevented Strago [[Blue Mage|from learning lores cast in battle.]] One might say [[The Goggles Do Nothing]].
* In the SNES North American release of ''[[Final Fantasy IV (Video Game)|Final Fantasy IV]]'', Fire Bombs. Originally seen in the opening, when Cecil uses one to dispose of enemies in a cutscene, most enemies that would drop them had them removed from the drop list. The one exception were Red Dragons. However, they only exist in the final dungeon, and all of the characters can greatly outstrip them in damage. Averted in other releases, where they appear earlier in the game, when they're much more useful.
* In the SNES North American release of ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]'', Fire Bombs. Originally seen in the opening, when Cecil uses one to dispose of enemies in a cutscene, most enemies that would drop them had them removed from the drop list. The one exception were Red Dragons. However, they only exist in the final dungeon, and all of the characters can greatly outstrip them in damage. Averted in other releases, where they appear earlier in the game, when they're much more useful.
* In [[Dungeons and Dragons Online]], random loot can generate a lot of items of... [[Understatement|questionable]] usefulness, like race restricted [[Golem|Warforged]] (Living constructs with no need to breathe, and as such having [[Super Not-Drowning Skills]]) restricted item of underwater action (giving you [[Super Not-Drowning Skills]], redundant with a warforged racial ability)
* In [[Dungeons and Dragons Online]], random loot can generate a lot of items of... [[Understatement|questionable]] usefulness, like race restricted [[Golem|Warforged]] (Living constructs with no need to breathe, and as such having [[Super Not-Drowning Skills]]) restricted item of underwater action (giving you [[Super Not-Drowning Skills]], redundant with a warforged racial ability)
* ''[[Jet Force Gemini]]'' has the fish food, which can be used to feed fish in ponds. There is absolutely no benefit to doing this.
* ''[[Jet Force Gemini]]'' has the fish food, which can be used to feed fish in ponds. There is absolutely no benefit to doing this.

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The programmers or writers come up with an element for the hero to use. It's all cool, but they forget to make (or Dummied Out) any enemies that are affected by that element in any way. Or they put an item in that cures a specific one of the Standard Status Effects, but the said status is AWOL.

Compare/contrast Useless Useful Spell, Lethal Joke Item, and Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors. See also Antidote Effect, where it's strategic concerns that make something useless rather than programming ones.

Not the opposite of Use Item (arf arf).

Examples of Useless Item include:


  • In Lufia II, the "Sea Ring" is strong against "Sea Creatures", but the programmers didn't flag any monsters as "Sea Creatures".
    • Again in the same game, there is a Capsule monster with "Soil" attacks. There are no monsters with the "Soil" flag set.
  • The "Ghost" and "Dragon" Pokémon types during Pokémon Red and Blue. Subsequent generations have made much progress in balancing out elemental types and attacks.
    • "Ghost" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against Psychic types, but out of three Ghost type moves available in the first generation, one was a status attack, another only inflicted fixed damage, and the third was completely ineffective against Psychics due to a glitch in the Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors chart. Worse, the only Ghost-type pokémon in the first generation were also part Poison, making them vulnerable to Psychic attacks themselves. Finally, the strongest first-generation pokémon (Mewtwo) was also a Psychic, making the Psychic elemental type an overall Game Breaker.
      • The other type that psychic Pokémon were supposedly weak against, the Bug type, consisted primarily of status attacks, and most of the Pokémon who learned any effective Bug-type attacks were partly Poison themselves.
      • Bug types in general were pretty weak in that game.
    • "Dragon" type Pokémon were supposedly strong against other Dragons, but the sole "Dragon" type move in the first generation inflicted fixed damage, ignoring elemental type bonuses and making it almost useless against the sole Dragon-themed trainer in the game.
  • Infamously, the Anti-MUTE spell in the original Final Fantasy is completely useless since there are no enemies in the game that can inflict MUTE status on your party.
    • Moreover the original NES version suffered from numerous internal bugs that included rendering certain spells (LOCK and XFER, for example) absolutely useless, and ignoring attack bonuses for weapons that were intended to be elemental or monster-specific (Giant Sword vs. giants, Were Sword vs. werebeasts, etc.).
  • Final Fantasy XIII is horrible for this. The game practically throws debuff protection at you, but the only debuff that shows up with any regularity is the near-harmless poison. That each accessory only guards against one debuff and starts[1] with a 30% protection rate only makes it worse.
    • Keeping your leader guarded against Death for the last part is the exception.
  • Kingdom of Loathing has boots that offer "slight cute resistance". There's nothing that deals "cute" damage in the game yet, and, since the "cute" element is discovered during a Fifth Element parody set in the far future, there probably never will be.
  • In the early stages of Ragnarok Online, functions existed to cause or deter status damages like poison. The catch was that these statuses did not yet exist in the game.
  • In World of Warcraft, there is a troll vendor in Shattrath City who sells you various trinkets that are supposedly good at repelling certain mobs, none of which exist.
    • Griftah actually sells a whole variety of items, most of which do exactly what they claim to, but are nonetheless completely useless. However, one item he sells that has no use listed in its tooltip is a part you'll need to build a really cool device.
  • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night has plenty of weapons with obscure bonuses, one of which [the Were-Bane] gives bonuses against Were-Beasts. Unfortunately there's only one Were creature in the game (the Werewolf) and although a mini-boss originally, by the time you get this weapon is encountered as just as a random grunt in one specific area and is not much of a challenge as you're now a much higher level, and there's plenty of weapons with much higher base damage that eclipse the bonus you'd get anyway. On top of this, though, the sword is glitched, in that it does absolutely zero extra damage to them anyway! Mind you, the sword isn't /completely/ useless, as it's QCF+Attack move is a flurry of thrusts in the same vein as the Rapier's, and Were-Bane is stronger than the Rapier. It makes for a good off-hand weapon if you decide to forgo two-handed weapons and shields.
  • Another deliberate/parody example: The official Girl Genius card game includes a Vampire Hunter card that affects only Vampire cards. There are no Vampire cards. (Just as the series itself contains a vampire hunter, but no vampires.)
    • Though there are no vampires, there is a card that, by the rules (explicitly: it is used as an example of the card game's literal text-based mechanism for determining to what cards the "Instructions" on a given card apply) counts as one: the Vampire Hunter card.
  • Fable (the 1996 point and click adventure, not the newer action RPG series) was absolutely chock full of items that are never used. Whether their uses were Dummied Out or they were never intended to be used and served only as red herrings is unknown.
  • Legend of Dragoon features three useless key items that serve no purpose other than Hundred-Percent Completion- the War Bulletin, Lavitz's Portrait, and Kate's Bouquet.
  • Back in the day, the Yu-Gi-Oh! card game had a bunch of cards that were only useful against one specific card. Not a specific type of card, not a specific group of named cards, but a single, solitary card. 10 years later, most of the cards they were useful against have been banned, leaving them with no use whatsoever (except if they're monsters, in which case they might as well be effectless). Even before then, the cards in question were limited to 1, so there wasn't much chance of being used in fans' eyes, anyway.
  • In Secret of Evermore, the Magic Gourd literally has no effect on anything. Even the programmers couldn't remember what it was supposed to do.
  • It's quite possible to go through the entire game without ever getting a status ailment in Cosmic Fantasy 2. Given this, the ailment remedies and accessories that cure and prevent such remedies are a waste of inventory space.
  • In the original SNES version of Final Fantasy VI, the 'goggles' item prevented the 'blind' status effect, which did exist, and there were enemies that used it, but due to a glitch the effect did nothing to you at all. The only thing the being blinded effect was it prevented Strago from learning lores cast in battle. One might say The Goggles Do Nothing.
  • In the SNES North American release of Final Fantasy IV, Fire Bombs. Originally seen in the opening, when Cecil uses one to dispose of enemies in a cutscene, most enemies that would drop them had them removed from the drop list. The one exception were Red Dragons. However, they only exist in the final dungeon, and all of the characters can greatly outstrip them in damage. Averted in other releases, where they appear earlier in the game, when they're much more useful.
  • In Dungeons and Dragons Online, random loot can generate a lot of items of... questionable usefulness, like race restricted Warforged (Living constructs with no need to breathe, and as such having Super Not-Drowning Skills) restricted item of underwater action (giving you Super Not-Drowning Skills, redundant with a warforged racial ability)
  • Jet Force Gemini has the fish food, which can be used to feed fish in ponds. There is absolutely no benefit to doing this.
  1. all items can be upgraded