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* Do ''not'' ever start drawing comparisons between the new ''[[James Bond (film)|James Bond]]'' series (starting with ''[[Casino Royale]]'') and the [[The Bourne Series (film)|Jason Bourne films]] in front of a large group of Bond fans. Half will agree with you and the other half will ''unleash the fury''.
** Then there's [[The Transporter|Frank Martin]], described by one reviewer as "a sort of third-party international man of mystery for those who think James Bond is too effete and Jason Bourne just doesn't have enough chest hair."
** While on Bond, the unofficial ''[[Never Say Never Again]]'', which as [[Agony Booth]]'s Mr. Mendo [https://web.archive.org/web/20130917025513/http://www.agonybooth.com/video286_Never_Say_Never_Again_James_Bond.aspx put]:
{{quote|"If this looks like a ripoff of [[Thunderball|a better Bond film]]... [[Recycled Script|it's because it is]]!"}}
* ''[[Beowulf (film)|Beowulf]]'' was wrongfully accused of trying to rip off ''~300~'' because of the main character's signature phrase ''"I AM BEOWULF!"'' is somehow similar to ''"THIS IS SPARTAA!!!"''. How that becomes ''ripoff material'' is beyond some people. Let's also recall that [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|we have an entire page full of examples of people yelling that way]], and that ''Beowulf'' [[Animation Lead Time|was filmed first, anyway.]]
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** "It's like WOW" has become a common complaint about ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]] Fourth Edition'', despite the fact that many of the alleged WOW elements started in [[Older Than You Think|D&D itself]].
** 'WOW Clone' is a frequent insult used against games that are deemed too similar to [[World of Warcraft]] or simly too mainstream or lacking a feature the speaker likes.
* Speaking of [[World of Warcraft]], let's not forget the "It's [[High Fantasy]] for the lowest common denominator" or "It's just a ripoff of Lord of the Rings". But you can bet 90% of these people are trolls who are just mindless anti-fans who don't know how they practically have nothing in common with each other beyond common [[High Fantasy]] traits and some nods to it. (Such as the human male joke about the "Ruler of the bracelet" due to the movies being released around the time [[WoW]] was, and icecrown having similar architecture) If you're saying [[World of Warcraft]] is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings, you '''''also''''' have to say Warhammer is to escape the fallacy, because by your logic, all [[High Fantasy]] is [[The Lord of the Rings]].
** It was openly admitted that the Ice Crown was a Mordor rip-o... I mean, [[Shout-Out]]. The Lich King bears some visual similarities to Sauron too. Blizzard [[Lampshade Hanging|makes fun of it]]. Everyone laughs. Punch is served.
** Speaking of which, practically the archetypal [[Fan Dumb]] related to this trope is Warhammer vs. Warcraft. Each side accuses the other of stealing... basically everything from the other. For instance, the endless debates about which came first, the [[Bug War|Tyranids or the Zerg]] (''[[Alien]]'' did it before either, for the record, and ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' did it [[Older Than You Think|before that]]). To put it bluntly, both Wars were ripping off their predecessors rather than each other.
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* ''[[Killer Instinct]]'' was accused of this for trying to be like [[Mortal Kombat]].
* ''[[F-Zero]]'' fans occasionally consider ''[[Wipeout]]'' a rip-off.
* [[Rock Band]] fans often claim [[Guitar Hero]] stole any number of ideas, the most notable one being full band play. The less-informed will argue the opposite, not realizing (or ignoring) that Guitar Hero 1 & 2 were made by Harmonix (Forbes gets it wrong in [https://web.archive.org/web/20130101065939/http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/052_3.html this article]). Meanwhile, Guitar Hero is inspired from Guitar Freaks in Japan, but that game only had three frets, no hammer-ons, and Konami [[Frivolous Lawsuit|seemed pretty determined]] [[No Export for You|to deprive non-Japanese gamers of it]].
* Any Stealth-Action Game will inevitably get compared to and get accused of copying either [[Metal Gear Solid]] or [[Syphon Filter]](...which is accused of being a Metal Gear Solid clone itself)
* Because of the use of [[High Fantasy]] elements and Elijah Wood, many of [[Spyro the Dragon|the older Spyro]] [[Fan Dumb]] bashes the ''Legend'' series for being a [[The Lord of the Rings]] rip off... Considering that the ''Legend'' series doesn't even have [[Five Races]], has [[Steampunk]] elements, and no rings involved. [[Fridge Logic|And you play as a dragon...]]
* [[Limbo of the Lost]] gets most of its flak for [[Plagiarism|stealing copyrighted assets]] from games like ''[[Thief]]'', ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'', ''Painkiller'', ''[[Return to Castle Wolfenstein]]'' and ''[[Unreal Tournament]]'', among others.
** Incredibly, this is largely averted by many reviews: despite the ''literal'' copying, this is often only one of many criticisms of the game's overall perceived quality.
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* ''[[Castlevania: Lords of Shadow]]'' is declared [[God of War (series)|God of War]]'s ripoff due to their similarities in combat mechanisms. To the lesser extent, Castlevania games on [[PlayStation 2]] are compared with [[Devil May Cry]] because of their battle systems and [[White-Haired Pretty Boy]] protagonists.
* ''[[PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale]]'' is already getting slammed for being a ripoff of ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', despite a Sony version of SSB being in demand for quite a while before the idea for the game was offically conceived. SSB [[wikipedia:Nekketsu Kakutō Densetsu|wasn't even the first]] [[Mascot Fighter]]. But in the complainers' defense, it doesn't help that a Nintendo Wii can be seen in the background in a photo on the game's website.
== Web Original ==▼
* Don't ''ever'' do [[Caustic Critic|ranting reviews]] on [[YouTube]], unless you want to be labeled an [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|AVGN]] ripoff.▼
** And there are videos on [[YouTube]] calling the AVGN a Seanbaby ripoff. This is because seanbaby predates AVGN, and made fun of NES games for pretty much the same reasons. Some of his lines are even almost exactly the same.▼
* Many Abridged series are dismissed just for copying [[Little Kuriboh]], regardless of whether they have different jokes or even parody the series differently. This can come off as a bit hypocrital, given Kuriboh's own heavy reliance on pop culture references.▼
** ''[[Naruto Abridged]]'' made fun of this.▼
{{quote|You're copying Little Kuriboh! He said the word "the", and you so said it in your last episode!}}▼
*** Since The Abridged Genre runs on [[Follow the Leader]], this was inevitable...▼
* Many people on [[Deviant ART]] are just eager to pounce on people that copied (just short of actually taking the person's work) artwork off someone else or made a similar picture, whether by accident or on purpose. Even putting characters in similar poses will get many people flamed because "true art" is original. The mentality can get so bad that all it takes is one artist making a journal crying that someone ripped off his or her work and the people responding go and flame the hell out of the target.▼
** Never '''EVER''' draw in anything that's even remniscent of anime. Period. You will immmediatly be told that you copied and now it sucks. Never '''ever''' draw fanart. You are copying.▼
** One art thief actually tried to use this to her advantage. Jen "Spunkywulf" Seng is a very popular artist and animator, especially in the [[Furry Fandom]]. An artist named "Mochi" may have traced her art and that of others. After Jen and her friend tried to discuss it privately, Mochi wrote a journal entry making Jen out to be some sort of elitist who was begrudging Mochi being "inspired" by her work, presumably expecting Jen to be cowed by the flames of Mochi's few hundred fans. Unfortunately, Jen herself has ''thousands'' of fans, and she was perfectly willing to call Mochi out. [
** One of the more hilarious aspects of DA is how the Whiteknighting sometimes backfires against the artists themselves.
** Despite the fact that many people do not like copying of styles, some artists actually ''encourage'' other artists to mimic their style. One mention should go to Razzek, a woman who pressingly tells people to draw characters (whether original or Fan Art) in her style. [[Small Name, Big Ego|Being how she is both on DA and on other sites]], some people have actually given into her demands and it has resulted in a lot of various characters being nearly "rip offs" of the artist's style.▼
*** Really though, this is just one of the ''many'' "artistic-heads" that cause over half of the trends (and problems) in [[Deviant ART]]. If someone has been on DA long enough, has enough artistic talent to win over some fans, and possibly a [[Small Name, Big Ego|big ego]], you can bet your bottom dollar that those fans will mimic the artist's style because they think it's good. Sadly, this results in less variety of styles and more so the whole "tracing/copying wars" that are seen by those who [[The Theme Park Version|think of the place as Deviant Tart]], where as those who actually have their unique style and ideas never really get noticed.▼
** Probably because deviantART ''was'' ear-deep in <s>filter-processed copypasted pics</s> "[http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Image:Tartletmanual.jpg Tracing]" for long. Which in itself [[Tropes Are Not Bad|isn't "horrible"]], of course—as long as the works such remix is derived from are given proper credits.▼
* Several people outside of Japan compare MAD Videos and other similar videos mostly found on Nico Nico Douga (NND) to [[YouTube]] Poop, though Know Your Meme researchers found that [[MA Ds]] were created as far back as 1978, 28 years before [[YouTube]] Poop was created.▼
** Some people outside of Japan refer to [[MA Ds]] as [[YouTube]] Poop Music Videos ([[YTPM Vs]]), though [[MA Ds]] are usually made with talent and soul, while [[YT Ps]] and [[YTPM Vs]] are often less artistic.▼
* Every gaming webcomic that isn't ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' has been accused of ripping off the same.▼
** ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' itself summed the trope up: the difference between "derivative" and "[[Homage]]" is "Whether or not I liked it".▼
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** Rather irritatingly, ''[[Rocko's Modern Life]]'' also was frequently accused of being a ''[[Ren and Stimpy]]'' rip-off/knock-off during its "early-to-mid-[[The Nineties|1990s]]" heyday, despite the fact that said shows were practically polar opposites of each other in terms of what their humor styles '''actually focused on''' (''R&S'' focused on its [[Gross Up Close-Up|visual]] humor and [[Surreal Humor|utter nonsensical-ness]] while ''RML'' focused on its writing and characters; also, ''R&S'' focused on being a satire of cartoons themselves while ''RML'' focused on being a more traditional satire of society).
* [[Johnny Test]] has its haters for being a rip-off of [[Dexter's Laboratory]]. Think about it: It's about two ingenious sisters that make experiments for their brother Johnny. The only difference between the two shows is that the lab rat is the star instead of the genius.
* Several ''[[PAW Patrol]]'' fans have accused the Disney Junior show ''SuperKitties'' of being a shameless ripoff the minute it was announced, since both shows involve a group of animals (puppies in ''PAW Patrol'' and kittens in ''SuperKitties'') helping and/or rescuing the residents of the city they live in. It doesn't help that the announcement was made around the same time ''PAW Patrol'' itself introduced a heroic team of cats called the Cat Pack.
▲== Web Original ==
▲* Don't ''ever'' do [[Caustic Critic|ranting reviews]] on [[YouTube]], unless you want to be labeled an [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|AVGN]] ripoff.
▲** And there are videos on [[YouTube]] calling the AVGN a Seanbaby ripoff. This is because seanbaby predates AVGN, and made fun of NES games for pretty much the same reasons. Some of his lines are even almost exactly the same.
▲* Many Abridged series are dismissed just for copying [[Little Kuriboh]], regardless of whether they have different jokes or even parody the series differently. This can come off as a bit hypocrital, given Kuriboh's own heavy reliance on pop culture references.
▲** ''[[Naruto Abridged]]'' made fun of this.
▲{{quote|You're copying Little Kuriboh! He said the word "the", and you so said it in your last episode!}}
▲*** Since The Abridged Genre runs on [[Follow the Leader]], this was inevitable...
▲* Many people on [[Deviant ART]] are just eager to pounce on people that copied (just short of actually taking the person's work) artwork off someone else or made a similar picture, whether by accident or on purpose. Even putting characters in similar poses will get many people flamed because "true art" is original. The mentality can get so bad that all it takes is one artist making a journal crying that someone ripped off his or her work and the people responding go and flame the hell out of the target.
▲** Never '''EVER''' draw in anything that's even remniscent of anime. Period. You will immmediatly be told that you copied and now it sucks. Never '''ever''' draw fanart. You are copying.
▲** One art thief actually tried to use this to her advantage. Jen "Spunkywulf" Seng is a very popular artist and animator, especially in the [[Furry Fandom]]. An artist named "Mochi" may have traced her art and that of others. After Jen and her friend tried to discuss it privately, Mochi wrote a journal entry making Jen out to be some sort of elitist who was begrudging Mochi being "inspired" by her work, presumably expecting Jen to be cowed by the flames of Mochi's few hundred fans. Unfortunately, Jen herself has ''thousands'' of fans, and she was perfectly willing to call Mochi out. [http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3358 Hilarity ensued]{{Dead link}}.
▲** One of the more hilarious aspects of DA is how the Whiteknighting sometimes backfires against the artists themselves. Lets say you want to draw things your parents/relations wouldn't agree with too much. Perhaps you're even a squeaky clean artist who wants to throw a couple boobies into your work to avoid people FROM work from finding out and getting you canned. So you make a new name, and upload new works to that, and gain fans. Eventually, one of your thousands of old fans finds the new account and starts watching...And then they notice minor similarities like how you draw hands and how the new account has no signature on pictures. [[Fan Dumb|Cue mass reporting spree for art theft.]] Even if they aren't trying to hide from anyone, if they make a second account on a whim, for example furry artist Inuki...yea...
▲** Despite the fact that many people do not like copying of styles, some artists actually ''encourage'' other artists to mimic their style. One mention should go to Razzek, a woman who pressingly tells people to draw characters (whether original or Fan Art) in her style. [[Small Name, Big Ego|Being how she is both on DA and on other sites]], some people have actually given into her demands and it has resulted in a lot of various characters being nearly "rip offs" of the artist's style.
▲*** Really though, this is just one of the ''many'' "artistic-heads" that cause over half of the trends (and problems) in [[Deviant ART]]. If someone has been on DA long enough, has enough artistic talent to win over some fans, and possibly a [[Small Name, Big Ego|big ego]], you can bet your bottom dollar that those fans will mimic the artist's style because they think it's good. Sadly, this results in less variety of styles and more so the whole "tracing/copying wars" that are seen by those who [[The Theme Park Version|think of the place as Deviant Tart]], where as those who actually have their unique style and ideas never really get noticed.
▲** Probably because deviantART ''was'' ear-deep in <s>filter-processed copypasted pics</s> "[http://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Image:Tartletmanual.jpg Tracing]" for long. Which in itself [[Tropes Are Not Bad|isn't "horrible"]], of course—as long as the works such remix is derived from are given proper credits.
▲* Several people outside of Japan compare MAD Videos and other similar videos mostly found on Nico Nico Douga (NND) to [[YouTube]] Poop, though Know Your Meme researchers found that [[MA Ds]] were created as far back as 1978, 28 years before [[YouTube]] Poop was created.
▲** Some people outside of Japan refer to [[MA Ds]] as [[YouTube]] Poop Music Videos ([[YTPM Vs]]), though [[MA Ds]] are usually made with talent and soul, while [[YT Ps]] and [[YTPM Vs]] are often less artistic.
▲* Every gaming webcomic that isn't ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' has been accused of ripping off the same.
▲** ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' itself summed the trope up: the difference between "derivative" and "[[Homage]]" is "Whether or not I liked it".
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