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* Actors who would work for 4KidsEntertainment worked for the now out-of-business [[Central Park Media]] before the former became notable among dubbing companies. Similarly, the actors for [[ADV Films]] and [[FUNimation]] did one another's work occasionally.

* Fans of ''[[The Slayers]]'' often have a "[[Hey, It's That Voice!]]" moment when they hear [[Crispin Freeman]] in non-Zelgadis roles. However, those same fans will, on going back and re-watching the first half of the first season years later, have a moment of confusion on hearing Daniel Cronin's voice coming out of Zelgadis' mouth. The same thing usually happens for [[Veronica Taylor]]'s Amelia, though a bit less so because her first actress (Joani Baker) only acted for three episodes.

* Raoh was originally voiced by [[Norio Wakamoto]] when he appeared in Episode 32 of ''[[Fist of the North Star|Hokuto no Ken]]'' before [[Kenji Utsumi]] took over the role. This was actually before Raoh's proper first appearance, before Raoh's design and backstory was finalized (before he even had a proper name even), since Raoh only shows up as a [[Sinister Silhouettes|silhouette]]. Wakamoto would later appear as another character named Shuren.

 

 

== Film ==

* ''[[That Thing You Do]]'' has the original drummer for [[Fake Band|The Wonders]] (then The One-ders) breaks his arm before a talent competition. The band asks [[The Hero|Guy]] to fill in for him. This talent show led the The Wonders towards the path to recognition. The former drummer, Chad, ends up working at an appliance shop.

* In the Death Star briefing scene in the original ''[[A New Hope|Star Wars]]'', [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] (or is he an [[Ascended Extra]]?) Wedge Antilles is played by Colin Higgins. In the rest of the movie - and in the other [[The Empire Strikes Back|two]] [[Return of the Jedi|movies]] in the original [[Star Wars|trilogy]] - he's played by Denis Lawson (who also dubbed Higgins' lines in his one scene).

** In the original version of ''The Empire Strikes Back'', Emperor Palpatine's face was provided by Elaine Baker, wife of the film's makeup artist Rick Baker, and voiced by Clive Revill. Ian McDiarmid played the character in ''Return of the Jedi'' and the prequels, and when ''Empire'' was re-released to DVD in 2004, Palpatine's scenes were re-shot with McDiarmid in the role.

* ''[[The Social Network]]'' uses this as a major plot point: it it's interpretation of Facebook's founding, Eduardo Saverin, who has been part of the company since the start, becomes aware of his business partner's attempts to minimize his contributions and force him out of the company. Lawsuits ensue. In real life Saverin has been candid that he didn't care so much about being on the facebook "inside" as maintaining his deserved financial stake.

* [[Hannibal Lecter]] was first played by Brian Cox in Manhunter, and later by Anthony Hopkins

* Jennifer in the ''Back to the Future'' series is an excellent example. Jennifer was played by Claudia Wells in the first film. When she was unable to return for the sequels she was replaced by Elisabeth Shue. This included reshooting the end scenes of Back to the Future with Shue in the role for the beginning of Back to the Future II. Needless to say, Shue is the actress most associated with the role.

* Tom Clancy's character Jack Ryan was originated in film by Alec Baldwin in ''The Hunt for Red October''. However the role is best remembered from the portrayal by Harrison Ford in the follow-up adaptations ''Patriot Games'' and ''Clear and Present Danger''.

 

** Also used in ''Soul Music'', where the Librarian briefly joined (and then quit) the Band With Rock In before they went on tour and made it really big.

* Speaking of the Four Horsemen, in the original text they were Famine, Death, War, and Conquest. In the King James edition of the Bible, Conquest was replaced with the much more widely known Pestilence.

 

 

** Shatner claims in his memoirs that Hunter was actually sort of manipulated into leaving since his girlfriend at the time was always on set complaining about how bad the show made him look.

* In the ''[[JAG]]'' two-parter that provided the [[Poorly-Disguised Pilot|backdoor pilot]] for ''[[NCIS]]'', Robyn Lively played the female field agent. By the time the actual series premiered, she was replaced by Sasha Alexander (notable that she herself would be replaced by Cote de Pablo after the second season).

* ''[[The Daily Show]]'' started with Craig Kilborn for the first three years, but the show really became popular after Jon Stewart took over and retooled the direction and comedy style. Now, the show's full title is even "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart."

** "[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-12-2001/vince-vaughn That will always be Craig's chair to me.]"

* Jason Dawe, who was a presenter on ''[[Top Gear]]'' for one season and then was replaced by James May.

** And for US fans, The Black Stig (since BBC America hasn't gotten around to airing the earliest seasons of ''[[Top Gear]]'').

* Branford Marsalis was Jay Leno's original bandleader on ''[[The Tonight Show]]''. Unfortunately, because of the legendary rapport Leno had with his replacement Kevin Eubanks (not quite as legendary as that between Johnny Carson and Doc Severinsen, or David Letterman and Paul Schaffer, but close), no one remembers that fact.

* Tamlyn Tomita as Lt Cmdr Laurel Takashima and Johnny Sekka as Dr Benjamin Kyle in the ''[[Babylon 5]]'' [[Pilot Movie]] -- both of whom declined to return for the subsequent TV series. Neither ever appear again in person (although Dr Kyle does get referred to several times throughout the series). Ultimately averted with Patricia Tallman as Lyta Alexander, who also didn't return at first but ended up rejoining the cast much later in the series.

* [[Ed]] had an in-universe example. A band sued their founder, lead singer and songwriter on the grounds that she plagiarized her lyrics. It was all a pretense because the record label didn't like her. They had already scouted a potential replacement but the trial took so long, the replacement joined another band. They tried to take back their leader, in vain. The episode ended with the band performing in front of a not so impressed talent scout.

* Lauren Sanchez was the original host of ''[[So You Think You Can Dance]]'', but left after one season and was replaced by Cat Deeley, who is now the face of the show.

* While she filled a different role in the show in its original format, folklorist Heather Joseph-Witham became the Pete Best of ''[[Myth Busters]]'', effectively replaced by the Build Team as the show's focus shifted from the myths themselves to [[MacGyvering]] and [[Stuff Blowing Up]].

** Scottie Chapman is another ''Mythbusters'' example; she was originally the machinist of the Build Team, but left the show during Season 3, right around the time the Build Team's role on the show was expanded and they were added to the theme sequence, and was replaced by Grant Imahara. While Scottie has made sporadic appearances since then, the regulars on the show have become far more famous.

* ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' parodies Pete Best's story with [[Eddie Murphy]] as [http://beatlestweets.posterous.com/eddy-murphy-was-the-5th-beatle Clarence Walker], the saxophonist who's still bitter about being kicked out of the band.

* For its first three years, the [[PBS]] show ''Scientific American Frontiers'' was hosted by MIT professor Woodie Flowers. He was replaced by Alan Alda, who hosted for 12 years.

* In 1981 [[MTV]] hired five people as its original lineup of VJs: Nina Blackwood, Mark Goodman, Alan Hunter, J.J. Jackson and Meg Griffin (no, not [[Family Guy|that one]]). Griffin was a radio vet (as were some of the others) but she had difficulty adjusting to an on-camera role during rehearsals, and quit just two weeks before the August 1 launch date. She was hurriedly replaced by 22-year-old radio intern Martha Quinn, who went on to become arguably the [[Face of the Band|most famous]] VJ.

** In season three (1971-72) a bunch of new human characters were added. Luis and Maria are ''still'' on the show. David was on for more than a decade (before his portrayer Northern Calloway ran into [[Real Life Writes the Plot|personal and health problems, then died]]). But Rafael (Luis' assistant at the Fix-It Shop), Molly (the mail carrier) and Tom (Mr. Hooper's assistant) all lasted just one season. But there's plenty of [[Retroactive Recognition]] for them: Rafael was played by [[Raul Julia]], Molly by [[The Facts of Life|Charlotte Rae]], and Tom by Larry Block, a [[Hey, It's That Guy!|character actor]] who's been in a million things since then.

* ''[[3-2-1 Contact]]'' was [[Retool|retooled]] and thus completely recast after just the first season.

* Tim Brooke-Taylor was an early member of what would eventually evolve into [[Monty Python]], alongside Graham Chapman, John Cleese and Michael Palin, and made appearances in ''At Last the 1948 Show'' and ''How to Irritate People''. He left the group between the latter and the start of ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' -- by which time Eric Idle, Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam had arrived -- though still went on to be a pretty successful actor in his own right.

* [[Billy Crystal]] was scheduled to be in one sketch in the first episode of ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'', and would have been a featured player throughout that season. But it was cut and he went home, crying all the way back because he thought he'd just blown the only break he was ever going to get. He stuck with his standup career and eventually did get to be a regular ten years later.

* When ''Dealer's Choice'' debuted in January 1974, its host was Bob Hastings. Problem is, the man tended to ramble and once told a trailing contestant "You don't have a Chinaman's chance." Jack Clark did the rest of the run.

* Remember Paul Lynde, that sassy gay guy who was the center square on ''[[The Hollywood Squares]]'' (minus a period from 1979-80)? Yeah. Well, from 1966-68, there were various people in the center square, most notably (from the [[GSN]] reruns of the 1968 nighttime show) Buddy Hackett.

* The original version of ''[[The Price Is Right]]'' ran on [[NBC]] from 1956-63 and [[ABC]] from 1963-65, hosted by [[Bill Cullen]]. It isn't brought up too often nowadays.

** When [[Mark Goodson]] wanted to revive ''Price'' in 1972, he had a clear setup in mind: weekly syndication, hosted by Dennis James and distributed by Viacom. Once [[CBS]] got wind of the revival, Bud Grant approached Goodson about doing a daytime show with Bob Barker as emcee. Barker wanted no part of it, not liking those in charge of the revival, and begged Grant for another game show; Grant declined, which suggests that Barker's alleged backstage tyranny was payback for having the show forced on him.

** As for James, he did nighttime ''Price'' until 1977, when his contract expired and Barker took over until its end in 1980. His version, along with those of Tom Kennedy and Doug Davidson, are largely ignored in pretty much every way.

* Chuck Woolery and Susan Stafford were the original host/hostess tandem on ''[[Wheel of Fortune]]'' when it debuted on January 6, 1975. Chuck left due to a salary dispute with [[Merv Griffin]] in December 1981, while Susan departed to pursue humanitarian work in October 1982. As in Hal Block's case above, almost all of their episodes have been erased. They were replaced by Pat Sajak and Vanna White, respectively, who are still with the show 30 years later.

* UK: ''The Golden Shot'' was a huge hit with host Bob Monkhouse. His introduction was the [[Author's Saving Throw|network's saving throw]] after the show ''bombed'' under original host Jackie Rae.

* Any lead guitarist of [[X Japan]] before [[Hideto Matsumoto|hide]]. There were a few including Jun and Hally, but...

* Many don't realize that Alex Lifeson is the only remaining founding member of [[Rush]]. Neil Peart was preceded by John Rutsey (who played on their self-titled debut album) for 6 years. Geddy Lee was preceded by Jeff Jones. For a month.

* [[Fleetwood Mac]] has this trope in spades. Better to read [[wikipedia:Fleetwood Mac|the entry on The Other Wiki than explain it here]].

* [[Nirvana]] went through a bevy of drummers before finally hitting it big with Dave Grohl behind the kit. Chad Channing, who played drums on Nirvana's first album, ''Bleach'', is probably the most well-known of these, although the book ''Come As You Are: The Story of Nirvana'' actually uses the phrase "The Pete Best of Nirvana" in reference to Aaron Burckhard, their very first drummer.

* Lloyd Grant from [[Metallica]]. He only played on the first demo of "Hit the Lights", which is by far slower than the one on the album. Lars said in a video, that they were so close to a record deal, but that's debatable.

** Similarly, Ron McGovney, who was replaced by Cliff Burton.

* Only two of the [[Spice Girls]] (Posh and Scary) were in the group from the very start to the very end. Ginger, Sporty and Baby got there before the group recorded anything, but they did replace previous members.

* [[Pink Floyd]] has some shining examples, often unfamiliar even to ardent fans of their early work. Accomplished guitarist Bob Klose was pressured into leaving by his father and college tutors less than a year before they got their record deal. Vocalists Keith Noble and Clive Metcalfe left to form their own band two years before that. And their replacement, Chris Dennis, was also an RAF technician and got posted overseas.

** Meanwhile, Syd Barrett has been granted an aversion of this. Although he was fired after their first album due to [[Creator Breakdown]], they had some decent pop success with that record, and after he left the band, he recorded two well received solo records. The fact that the band wouldn't stop writing songs about him probably helped as well.

** In fact, Iron Maiden had quite a few different lineups before finally getting a record deal and bringing out an album. Paul Di'Anno? He's their ''third'' singer. It does help that Maiden brought out "The Early Days" DVD, which chronicles the first eight years of their career and all the different musicians that were in the band until they settled on their most "Classic" lineup with ''Piece of Mind''.

** YMMV may vary on all that, as there are many who ''prefer'' the earlier versions of the band. Especially with Clive Burr, who may actually be the single best musician to pass through that band.

* Visual-kei band Malice Mizer recorded one album with their original lead singer, Tetsu (which is farther than they got with their original drummer, Gaz, who was replaced after one SONG); however, they had their biggest successes when Gackt was brought in, and modern fans are more likely to remember him or HIS replacement, Klaha, before they remember the original.

** It does lend a fair bit of insight into Axl's stance on the matter. In his eyes all the band members besides Izzy were hired hands in ''[[I Am the Band|his]]'' [[I Am the Band|band]] while from the perspective of the other members it was a five-way equal partnership until Axl started taking over.

* The original bassist of [[The Sex Pistols]], Glen Matlock, was replaced by Sid Vicious after the release of their first two singles. However, Glen Matlock wrote their third single "Pretty Vacant", but it only got into the charts after he had been chucked out of the band. When the band reunited in 1996, however, Matlock returned to the fold and has remained with the band ever since.

* Black metal band Mayhem has Manheim, their original drummer who is only heard on their first EP, ''Deathcrush'', after which he was replaced with the much-better-known Hellhammer.

** Someone named Messiah did vocals on a few tracks of that EP.

** Dominici himself was preceded by Chris Collins, who sang only on a few of the band's early demos.

* John Kiffmeyer/[[Stage Names|Al Sobrante]] played drums on the first [[Green Day]] album ''39/Smooth'', left for college and was replaced by Tré Cool, with the band on the way to stardom soon after. The only song he ever wrote was "''I Was There''".

* Signe Anderson sang for Jefferson Airplane on their first album, but was replaced by Grace Slick for ''Surrealistic Pillow''.

* David Ruffin replaced Al Bryant of [[The Temptations]]. Ruffin ended up singing some of the group's most memorable hits, "My Girl" included.

* Most fans of the [[Melodic Death Metal]] band Arch Enemy are unfamiliar with the band's original vocalist, Johan Liiva, who was fired by the band for his lack of energy during live performances. They hired [[Ms. Fanservice|Angela Gossow]] and went on to achieve international success.

* Ian Stewart was fired about a year before [[The Rolling Stones]] released their debut album at the behest of their manager because he apparently disliked the fact that the band had a keyboardist (or the fact that Ian's big, burly frame contrasted with the image he was trying to form for the band). Stewart gracefully accepted a demotion to the band's driver and later [[The Sixth Ranger]], playing keyboards on all their albums (except ''Beggars Banquet'') and most of their tours until his death in 1985.

* Prog-rock band [[Yes]] subverts, inverts, and generally twists this trope around in mind-warping ways. Only one member has been consistent from its founding, bassist Chris Squire; and no more than 2 consecutive albums have ever had exactly the same lineup. This resulted in several "eras" in Yes's output, each one gaining and losing fans with it's changes in style and sound; with the second keyboardist, Rick Wakeman (who replaced Tony Kaye), both credited with catapulting Yes to superstardom, and blamed for later dragging the band down with his overblown electronic noodling. <ref>(The truth is that Yes wanted to start making use of synthesisers - Wakeman, as well as being one of the best keyboardists out there, had already used them extensively and was happy to help build their new sound, while Kaye stuck firmly to his Hammond organ. As for the noodling and fan disappointment, this was mostly tied up in the concept double album and accompanying tour ''Tales from Topographic Oceans'', largely an Anderson/Howe work - Wakeman had next to no input, disliked the concept from the start, found recording and performing it tedious, and quit in disgust after the tour, wishing to avoid more of the same.)</ref> After his hiatus, Wakeman returns to revive a band sliding into cult status after losing popularity to the burgeoning Grunge movement; once again replacing original keyboardist Tony Kaye. In the meantime, side project Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe was credited as a return to Yes's original and popular sound; although it remained a bit more obscure.<br />Yes does have some straight examples in guitarist Pete Banks, who left after the second album and was replaced by Steve Howe, and in drummer Bob "Tub Thumper" Hagger (replaced by Bill Bruford) and secondary guitarist Clive Bayley (not replaced) who left while the group was still called Mabel Greer’s Toy Shop. Bruford attempted to become a prime example himself, leaving to go to university just as the renamed group’s star was starting to ascend. However, replacement drummer Tony O’Reily became their most obscure example, struggling in the role until the rest of the band successfully petitioned Bruford to return.

* [[No Doubt]] was founded in 1986 by lead vocalist John Spence and keyboardist Eric Stefani, who filled out their lineup with Eric's younger sister Gwen (backing vocals), Jerry McMahon (guitar), Chris Leal (bass), Gabe Gonzalez (trumpet), Chris Webb (drums), Kevin Wells (trombone), and Alan and Tony Meade (backing vocals/trumpet and saxophone, respectively). By the time they made their first album, Gwen was the lead singer and the familiar lineup of bassist Tony Kanal, guitarist Tom Dumont, and drummer Adrian Young were already in place...as were Eric Stefani, saxophonist Eric Carpenter, trumpeter Don Hammerstedt, and trombonist Alex Henderson (actually the ''third'' trombonist, with Paul Caseley bridging the gap between Wells and Henderson). If none of these guys sounds familiar to you, it's because their first album was considered a flop by the record company, and their ''second'' album had current touring members Gabrial McNair and Stephen Bradley replacing Hammerstedt and Henderson; Eric Stefani was still a member at the time but left shortly after the group made it big.

* Country-pop band Restless Heart lost lead singer Verlon Thompson ''before the first single'' and replaced him with Larry Stewart, who held that role into the 1990s. Although he left in 1991 (with three of the other four members trading lead vocals until a mid-1990s disbanding), the band reunited in 1998 and again in 2004, both times with Larry again on lead vocals.

* Buffy Lawson, lead vocalist of the duo Bomshel (fiddler/backing vocalist Kristy Osmonson being the other member), split over [[Creative Differences]]. At the time, the duo had little to show for themselves: three cuts from an EP had all charted, plus a soundtrack cut from ''[[Evan Almighty]]'', but they still didn't have a full album. Kelly Sheppard took over on lead vocals, and after two false starts, finally got two Top 40 hits and a full album with Osmonson, Sheppard and three new producers. Obviously, the four singles that Buffy sang lead on were not included, and except for "Bomshel Stomp", those songs are now [[Canon Dis Continuity]].

* When you think of [[The Oak Ridge Boys]], do you picture four old-looking guys, one of whom has a [[Badass Beard]] that the guys in [[ZZ Top]] would envy? That guy, William Lee Golden, joined the group in 1964 as baritone vocalist. The most familiar lineup, which also includes tenor Joe Bonsall, lead singer Duane Allen and [[Basso Profundo]] Richard Sterban (the guy who did the "giddyup, ba oom papa oom papa mow mow" that everyone remembers from "Elvira"), didn't come to be until the early 1970s, just before the band began having country music success (they had been a gospel group since the 1940s, and even won a Grammy in their gospel era). The original lead vocalist was Wally Fowler, who left to become a preacher; Smitty Gatlin later took over before Allen joined in 1966.

* David Hodges, former keyboardist for [[Evanescence]], left the band four months before ''Fallen'', the album that brought it into the mainstream, was released.

* If you ask most people to name the members of [[Deep Purple]], they'll call Ian Gillan the singer and Roger Glover the bassist, because they filled those positions during the most popular incarnation of the band. The original lead singer was Rod Evans and the bassist was Nick Simper.

* [[Sepultura]] started with Max Cavalera on guitar and another singer, Jairo Guedes. Guedes left and Cavalera took over the vocals. Then they hired a second guitarist, Wagner Lamounier, who played in their debut album, but quit after getting tired of [[Death Metal]]. Andreas Kisser arrived, and a few years later they [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|were really popular outside their native Brazil.]]

* For [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]], it's anyone who played in the band other than the four originals (Anthony Kiedis, Flea, Halel Slovak and Jack Irons - though this formation only played for an album and an EP, with Slovak appearing in another album) and [[Long Runner Lineup|the most well-known formation]]] (Kiedis, Flea, John Frusciante and Chad Smith). [[Janes Addiction|Dave Navarro]] doesn't count.

* The [[Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly|wilfully genre-defying]] Australian cult group Crime And The City Solution is subject to a particularly extreme and bizarre version of this trope in that their original line-up was most likely never even recorded, while their second only released one song ("Moments") on a cassette magazine in 1980. Five years later, the group was reconstituted with a line-up including several ex-members of The Birthday Party (with only founding vocalist Simon Bonney returning from the original lineups), after which they went on to release six albums and tour relentlessly before disbanding in 1993. Most fans do not even know that there ''was'' a version of the band prior to 1985, let alone who was in it.

** In fact, The Fall take this to the extent that lead singer Mark E Smith is the only constant member since they started 35 years ago(!). He supposedly said "[[I Am the Band|If it's me and your granny on bongos, then it's [the] Fall]]".

* Swans, a band notorious for its line-up changes, generally held over at least a few members from the previous incarnation, with older ones popping in perennially. Now look at their first release... No, not ''Filth''. The self-titled EP they released in 1982. Now ask yourself: Who is Daniel Galliduani, the one on the sax? Or Bob Pezzola, the guitarist? Answers have slowly surfaced: Galliduani played with drummer Jonathan Kane as Transmission in the 1970s, later becoming a respected photographer; Pezzola was [[Tagalong Kid|a teenage tagalong]], recruited from an obscure NYC outfit called Phosphorus. And he wasn't the first; Glenn Branca acolyte Sue Hanel was. And more interesting yet, the bass playing, prior to the arrival of Harry Crosby, was a shared effort between the band's leader Michael Gira and [[Sonic Youth|a then little-known guitarist named Thurston Moore]].

** Joey Kramer would have been this if Aerosmith had not been successful, because the band he left to join Aerosmith eventually had a couple of gold records as Tavares. Likewise, that band's keyboardist was eventual P-Funk member Bernie Worrell.

* In the band [[Black Eyed Peas]], Kim Hill was the female vocalist when they released their debut album in 1998. By 2000, however, she left and in 2001 she was replaced by Stacy "Fergie" Ferguson. Very few people remember Kim Hill. Some claim it is a case of [[Unfortunate Implications]], since Hill was black and Fergie is white.

* Nigel Olssen left [[Uriah Heep]] before they hit major success, but catching on with [[Elton John]]'s band and having two solo hit singles of his own was probably more than consolation.

* [[Supertramp]] recorded two poorly-selling albums in their native England. Then the two songwriters relocated to Los Angeles, formed a new band under the Supertramp name, and met with huge success in the late 1970s. One of their abandoned British former members later resurfaced as [[King Crimson]]'s lyricist in their ''Larks' Tongues in Aspic'' era.

* Henry Padovani, replaced by Andy Summers before the recording of [[The Police]]'s first album.

* John Curulewski was the lead guitarist on the first several Styx albums, which were moderately successful. When he could no longer tour, Tommy Shaw was recruited as a replacement. Shaw's presence led to a series of platinum-selling albums that made the band a household name.

* Who really remembers [[This Is Spinal Tap|Spinal Tap's]] first 18 or so drummers?

* The drummer for the proto-[[Steely Dan]] band The Leather Canary was [[Community|Chevy]] [[Three Amigos|Chase]]. Chase presents an interesting variation of this trope: he didn't become famous as the drummer for Steely Dan, but he arguably became just as famous as the band in another field, comedy.

* [[The Birthday Massacre]] had a keyboard player called Dank who left quite early on in the band's career. Owen, the current keyboard player, is much more well-known.

* Wayne Coyne wasn't the first frontman of [[The Flaming Lips]] - originally Wayne's brother Mark Coyne handled vocals. Before their first full-length album, Mark got married and left the band, and he hasn't been involved with music since. The only thing they released while he was part of the band was a self-titled EP, but their box set ''Finally The Punk Rockers Are Taking Acid'' included several demos and live tracks featuring his singing (mainly [[Cover Song|cover songs]] and early versions of songs that would end up on the first album).

* Jim Pennell, bassist for [[Da Yoopers]], left just before their [[Signature Song]] "Second Week of Deer Camp" took off. He was replaced by Joe DeLongchamp for a short time, then Dave "Doc" Bradbury, then Reggie Lusardi, who has held that post the longest (since at least 1998).

* [[Nickelback]] was originally Chad Kroeger, Mike Kroeger, Ryan Peake, and Brandon Kroeger (the brothers' cousin) Brandon was later replaced by Ryan Vikedal who was replaced by Daniel Adair before the release of ''All the Right Reasons''.

* Ian van Dahl's signature debut "Castles in the Sky" was originally sung by Marsha, but for the album version and all subsequent songs, Annemie Coenen took over vocals.

* In the late eighties, Niall Quinn sang lead for a four-piece band called The Cranberry Saw Us ([[Punny Name|say it quickly]]) in Ireland. He left within a year and the other band members started looking for a replacement. They found one with Dolores O'Riordan. Shortly after she joined, the band's name was shortened to [[The Cranberries]].

* Rare case of the one who started the band becoming The Pete Best: In 1990–1991, Atlanta, Georgia, teenager Crystal Jones put out a call for two more girls to join her in a trio to be called 2nd Nature. Then came singer Tionne Watkins and rapper Lisa Lopes. After getting a manager, who renamed them [[TLC]], they had an audition to get a record deal. They passed on the condition of replacing Jones - and with Rozonda Thomas (nicknamed "Chili" so the acronym would still work) they sold millions worldwide.

 

== Multiple Media ==

* Alan Alda is more identified as Hawkeye Pierce than Donald Sutherland. This goes for most of the cast of ''[[MASH]]''. This is helped by the fact that most of the TV cast of ''M*A*S*H'' face a certain amount of [[I Am Not Spock]] while many of the actors from the film are famous in their own right.

** O'Neill himself does, actually. When spelling his name in one episode he mentions that there's also a Jack O'Neil who is far grumpier. On the other hand, many people can go from James Spader in the movie to Michael Shanks at the beginning of the series and not notice the change in actor

* [[The Marx Brothers|Gummo Marx]].

** It should be noted that the gimmick was Culley's idea in the first place, so he got kicked out of his own creation only to see it reach stardom.

* The promos for NXT season 3 advertised Vickie Guerrero mentoring a 6 foot 9 beast known as Aloisa (indie wrestler Isis the Amazon). However WWE officials discovered Aloisa had erotic photos online and removed her from the competition to replace her with the unknown [[Chick Busters|Kaitlyn]]. Of course Kaitlyn ended up winning the season.

** Of course, [[Real Life Writes the Plot|Lita was also forced to turn heel]] because of the unfortunate "[[Edge]] incident," so the angle wouldn't have worked anyway.

 

 

== [[Radio]] ==

* When ''[[The Goon Show]]'' began in 1951 as ''Crazy People'' [[Michael Bentine]] starred alongside [[Peter Sellers]], [[Spike Milligan]] and [[Harry Secombe]]. Bentine also appeared in the low-budget ''Goon Show'' spinoff movie ''Down Among the Z-Men'', but left the show soon after. According to one interview, Milligan fired him for suggesting the show would work better without Milligan, who created and mostly wrote it.

** Because so few recordings of early series remain, most of the show's fans, who only discovered it later, will also be unfamiliar with Bentine's character Osric Pureheart, an inventor and adventurer, who was usually a very important character in the scripts of the first and second series.

** The show's original announcer Andrew Timothy also left early in the show's run, claiming that the surreal humour was damaging his sanity.

 

 

* A common occurrence for many modern Broadway shows is for them to start Off-Broadway, then if they find success there, moving to Broadway, typically with most of the original cast and crew. The cast members who are replaced almost always become this:

** Brian d'Arcy James, who originated the role of Dan in ''[[Next to Normal]]'' Off-Broadway, was the only cast member to not move with the show to Broadway, being replaced by J. Robert Spencer, who promptly got a Tony nomination and a whole lot of notoriety.

* Jules Bledsoe introduced "Ol' Man River" as Joe in the original Broadway production of ''[[Show Boat]]''. Paul Robeson would play that part (which consists of little more than the famous song and its reprises) in the 1928 London production, the 1932 Broadway revival, and the 1936 film version (for which he got a [[Movie Bonus Song]]). Robeson was the most famous black dramatic actor of his day, and Bledsoe was really not a good actor, so it's no wonder whose performance was regarded as definitive.

* An interesting example is the role of Sally in You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown. The original 1967 production didn't even feature the character, with Patty (not Peppermint Patty) instead. Patty eventually got [[Demoted to Extra]] in the ''Peanuts'' universe, and by the time of the 1999 Broadway production was largely forgotten. She was replaced with Sally, who was a good fit for Kristin Chenoweth, complete with an extremely catchy solo, and she won the Supporting Actress Tony. Meanwhile, Patty's been almost nearly forgotten.