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{{quote|(talking about ''Superbabies: [[Baby Geniuses]] 2'') "Y'know, I want to write and direct the third installment of this franchise, and make it the best thing anyone has ever seen, just so I can force critics to say "My god, you have to see ''Baby Geniuses 3''!"|Ash, The Shitty Movie Night Podcast}}
{{quote|(talking about ''Superbabies: [[Baby Geniuses]] 2'') "Y'know, I want to write and direct the third installment of this franchise, and make it the best thing anyone has ever seen, just so I can force critics to say "My god, you have to see ''Baby Geniuses 3''!"
|Ash, The Shitty Movie Night Podcast}}


So you've read a book, watched a movie, or played a video game, and you're underwhelmed. Maybe the story was cliched and unoriginal, or it was difficult to follow. The characters lacked depth, and were little more than flat characters with a handful of personality traits and nothing more. If it was a video game, the gameplay maybe had some good ideas but they were handled poorly and the effort was wasted.
So you've read a book, watched a movie, or played a video game, and you're underwhelmed. Maybe the story was cliched and unoriginal, or it was difficult to follow. The characters lacked depth, and were little more than flat characters with a handful of personality traits and nothing more. If it was a video game, the gameplay maybe had some good ideas but they were handled poorly and the effort was wasted.


In actual fact, the book, film, or game may even have been pretty good in itself, it doesn't have to be bad, it's just that after reading it you try out the [[Sequel]] and you're completely blown away. It's much better. The story is more original, the pacing was fixed, the characters who seemed so flat before are now more fleshed out and interesting in their own right. If it's a video game, the gameplay has been much improved and everything comes together more tightly. All in all, you weren't expecting the next product to be this good, but it seems the creator(s) did indeed learn from their mistakes. You're rightly impressed.
In actual fact, the book, film, or game may even have been pretty good in itself, it doesn't have to be bad, it's just that after reading it you try out the [[Sequel]] and you're completely blown away. It's much better. The story is more original, the pacing was fixed, the characters who seemed so flat before are now more fleshed out and interesting in their own right. If it's a video game, the gameplay has been much improved and everything comes together more tightly. All in all, you weren't expecting the next product to be this good, but it seems the creator(s) did indeed learn from their mistakes. You're rightly impressed.
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See also [[More Popular Spinoff]], [[Sequel Displacement]].
See also [[More Popular Spinoff]], [[Sequel Displacement]].

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== Anime ==
== Anime ==
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh]]'' (Toei series) was based on the manga, which is weird considered the series has suffered [[Adaptation Displacement]] from the second series onward. ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'' is markedly better both in storyline plotting and production values, and while the voice acting is debatable (the first one had a lot of seiyuu greats), most of the casting choices are better fits.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' (Toei series) was based on the manga, which is weird considered the series has suffered [[Adaptation Displacement]] from the second series onward. ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'' is markedly better both in storyline plotting and production values, and while the voice acting is debatable (the first one had a lot of seiyuu greats), most of the casting choices are better fits.
* ''[[Vampire Hunter D]]: Bloodlust''
* ''[[Vampire Hunter D]]: Bloodlust''
* Apparently, ''[[Stratos 4]]'' falls under this trope, what with ''Advance'' having a better, more sensible plot that the [[Mind Screw|original]].
* Apparently, ''[[Stratos 4]]'' falls under this trope, what with ''Advance'' having a better, more sensible plot that the [[Mind Screw|original]].
* ''[[MD Geist]]'' was a mediocre OVA from [[The Eighties]] given popularity in North America due to a widespread advertisement campaign by those who licensed it. This popularity managed to sway the director of the OVA to make a sequel after ten years; those ten years of experience are very evident.
* ''[[MD Geist]]'' was a mediocre OVA from [[The Eighties]] given popularity in North America due to a widespread advertisement campaign by those who licensed it. This popularity managed to sway the director of the OVA to make a sequel after ten years; those ten years of experience are very evident.
* ''[[Birdy the Mighty]]: Decode'' is widely regarded as a vast improvement over the original four-episode OVA.
* ''[[Birdy the Mighty]]: Decode'' is widely regarded as a vast improvement over the original four-episode OVA.



== Film ==
== Film ==
* ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Film)|Star Trek the Motion Picture]]'' was dull, padded out with [[Leave the Camera Running]] scenes, and didn't really feel like ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]''. ''[[Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan (Film)|Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan]]'', however, is widely regarded as one of the franchise's finest moments.
* ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]'' was dull, padded out with [[Leave the Camera Running]] scenes, and didn't really feel like ''[[Star Trek]]''. ''[[Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan]]'', however, is widely regarded as one of the franchise's finest moments.
** The general pattern is summed up by the phrase "[[Spaced|Even-numbered ''Trek'' films don't suck]]", as ''[[Star Trek IV the Voyage Home (Film)|IV]]'' and ''[[Star Trek VI the Undiscovered Country (Film)|VI]]'' are generally considered good or at least decent, while ''[[Star Trek III the Search For Spock (Film)|III]]'' and especially ''[[Star Trek V the Final Frontier (Film)|V]]'' are generally considered...well...not so great. Comparatively, most fans consider ''[[Star Trek Generations (Film)|Generations]]'' (the seventh) to be an okay sci-fi movie, while ''[[Star Trek First Contact (Film)|First Contact]]'' (the eighth) is a solid action film. That said, ''[[Star Trek Nemesis (Film)|Nemesis]]'' doesn't have many fans, and the 2009 film ''[[Star Trek (Film)|Star Trek]]'' (which isn't so much as sequel as an [[Alternate Universe]] story) is mixed among Trekkies, but loved among general audiences.
** The general pattern is summed up by the phrase "[[Spaced|Even-numbered ''Trek'' films don't suck]]", as ''[[Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home|IV]]'' and ''[[Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country|VI]]'' are generally considered good or at least decent, while ''[[Star Trek III: The Search For Spock|III]]'' and especially ''[[Star Trek V: The Final Frontier|V]]'' are generally considered...well...not so great. Comparatively, most fans consider ''[[Star Trek Generations|Generations]]'' (the seventh) to be an okay sci-fi movie, while ''[[Star Trek: First Contact|First Contact]]'' (the eighth) is a solid action film. That said, ''[[Star Trek: Nemesis|Nemesis]]'' doesn't have many fans, and the 2009 film ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' (which isn't so much as sequel as an [[Alternate Universe]] story) is mixed among Trekkies, but loved among general audiences.
*** More specifically, the films tend to alternate upward and downward trends in quality. Just look at the [http://i.imgur.com/fBoQy.png IMDB scores]. (Until Nemesis, which only barely beats Insurrection and is far worse than the 2009 reboot.)
*** More specifically, the films tend to alternate upward and downward trends in quality. Just look at the [http://i.imgur.com/fBoQy.png IMDB scores]. (Until ''Nemesis'', which only barely beats ''Insurrection'' and is far worse than the 2009 reboot.)
*** Also, ''III'' has more fans than the "even-numbered rule" would let on, and ''IV'' has more detractors.
*** Also, ''III'' has more fans than the "even-numbered rule" would let on, and ''IV'' has more detractors.
* Many ''[[Indiana Jones (Franchise)|Indiana Jones]]'' fans consider the second film ''[[Temple of Doom (Film)|Temple of Doom]]'' to be a major letdown, for the needlessly darker tone and pointless gross out scenes. As such, the much more widely approved of ''[[The Last Crusade (Film)|The Last Crusade]]'' is considered a substantial improvement.
* Many ''[[Indiana Jones]]'' fans consider the second film ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom|Temple of Doom]]'' to be a major letdown, for the needlessly darker tone and pointless gross out scenes. As such, the much more widely approved of ''[[Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade|The Last Crusade]]'' is considered a substantial improvement.
* [[Rob Zombie|Rob Zombie's]] first movie, ''[[House of 1000 Corpses (Film)|House of 1000 Corpses]]'', was panned by critics as [[Gorn]]. Its sequel, ''[[The Devils Rejects (Film)|The Devils Rejects]]'', received mixed to positive reviews. It even received Two Thumbs Up when reviewed on At The Movies with [[Roger Ebert|Ebert]] and Roeper!
* [[Rob Zombie]]'s first movie, ''[[House of 1000 Corpses]]'', was panned by critics as [[Gorn]]. Its sequel, ''[[The Devil's Rejects]]'', received mixed to positive reviews. It even received Two Thumbs Up when reviewed on At The Movies with [[Roger Ebert|Ebert]] and Roeper!
** ''The Devil's Rejects'' is actually considered by horror aficionados to be one of the best horror films of [[Turn of the Millennium|the 2000s]]. Zombie's directorial turnaround was so sharp that he not only garnered a cult following but likely allowed him to make more horror films (like the "Halloween" remakes).
** ''The Devil's Rejects'' is actually considered by horror aficionados to be one of the best horror films of [[Turn of the Millennium|the 2000s]]. Zombie's directorial turnaround was so sharp that he not only garnered a cult following but likely allowed him to make more horror films (like the "Halloween" remakes).
* ''[[Scary Movie]] 3'' was generally considered a great improvement on ''2'', with the [[Gross-Out Show|gross-out humor]] being replaced by more straightforward humor reminiscent of ''Airplane!'' and ''[[The Naked Gun (Film)|The Naked Gun]]''.
* ''[[Scary Movie]] 3'' was generally considered a great improvement on ''2'', with the [[Gross-Out Show|gross-out humor]] being replaced by more straightforward humor reminiscent of ''Airplane!'' and ''[[The Naked Gun]]''.
** Interesting mention of those movies, considering that [[Leslie Nielsen]], most famous for them, is also in ''Scary Movie 3''.
** Interesting mention of those movies, considering that [[Leslie Nielsen]], most famous for them, is also in ''Scary Movie 3''.
* ''[[The Pink Panther]]'' is widely regarded as a slightly above average '60s caper film, elevated by the presence of Capucine, [[David Niven]], and [[Peter Sellers]] in the (supporting) role of Chief Inspector Clouseau. Its sequel, ''A Shot in the Dark'', performs a bit of a genre shift (it's a [[Dolled-Up Installment]] that shifts the focus to Clouseau), and is widely regarded as one of the best comedies of that particular decade. It also introduced characters and elements that became series staples: manservant Cato and his karate attacks, former Chief Inspector Dreyfus and his being driven to madness by Clouseau, etc.
* ''[[The Pink Panther]]'' is widely regarded as a slightly above average '60s caper film, elevated by the presence of Capucine, [[David Niven]], and [[Peter Sellers]] in the (supporting) role of Chief Inspector Clouseau. Its sequel, ''A Shot in the Dark'', performs a bit of a genre shift (it's a [[Dolled-Up Installment]] that shifts the focus to Clouseau), and is widely regarded as one of the best comedies of that particular decade. It also introduced characters and elements that became series staples: manservant Cato and his karate attacks, former Chief Inspector Dreyfus and his being driven to madness by Clouseau, etc.
* The original ''[[Dungeons and Dragons (Film)|Dungeons and Dragons]]'' movie was mind-bogglingly awful. The sequel was at least a little less awful, though consequently [[So Okay It's Average|no one cared]].
* The original ''[[Dungeons & Dragons (film)|Dungeons and Dragons]]'' movie was mind-bogglingly awful. The sequel was at least a little less awful, though consequently [[So Okay It's Average|no one cared]].
* There is this German teen comedy called ''Knallharte Jungs'' (''More Ants in the Pants'' in the English dub) about a boy whose penis can talk. It was actually brilliant and hilariously funny. Now, this movie was actually a sequel to another movie called ''Harte Jungs'' (''Ants in the Pants'' in the English release) And my god, was that one lame!
* There is this German teen comedy called ''Knallharte Jungs'' (''More Ants in the Pants'' in the English dub) about a boy whose penis can talk. It was actually brilliant and hilariously funny. Now, this movie was actually a sequel to another movie called ''Harte Jungs'' (''Ants in the Pants'' in the English release) And my god, was that one lame!
* Although not as well-regarded as the original trilogy, critics generally gave much better reviews to ''[[Star Wars]] Episode III: [[Revenge of the Sith]]'' when it was released in comparison to the first two prequels.
* Although not as well-regarded as the original trilogy, critics generally gave much better reviews to ''[[Star Wars]] Episode III: [[Revenge of the Sith]]'' when it was released in comparison to the first two prequels.
* ''[[Saw|Saw VI]]'' was regarded by fans and critics alike as a huge improvement over the two previous sequels and generally regarded as a worthy successor to the original trilogy.
* ''[[Saw|Saw VI]]'' was regarded by fans and critics alike as a huge improvement over the two previous sequels and generally regarded as a worthy successor to the original trilogy.
* ''[[Transformers Dark of the Moon (Film)|Transformers Dark of the Moon]]'' is considered to be one of these by some, especially those who don't mind the Transformers movies and [[Michael Bay]] in general. After critical consensus deemed its prequel, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Film)|Revenge of The Fallen]]'', to be [[Sequelitis|not great]], Michael Bay went and directly addressed the problems with the film (such as the various [[The Scrappy|Scrappies]], [[Refuge in Vulgarity|the juvenile humor]], and the lack of plot and emotional depth) and worked on averting them for the sequel.
* ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' is considered to be one of these by some, especially those who don't mind the Transformers movies and [[Michael Bay]] in general. After critical consensus deemed its prequel, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen|Revenge of The Fallen]]'', to be [[Sequelitis|not great]], Michael Bay went and directly addressed the problems with the film (such as the various [[The Scrappy|Scrappies]], [[Refuge in Vulgarity|the juvenile humor]], and the lack of plot and emotional depth) and worked on averting them for the sequel.
* ''Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp'' was seen as a vast improvement over the original, not that that's very surprising, since the original was godawful.
* ''Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp'' was seen as a vast improvement over the original, not that that's very surprising, since the original was godawful.
* The third and especially fourth ''[[Final Destination]]'' films are considered a [[Dork Age]] for the franchise... a [[Dork Age]] that many critics deem to have ended with the fifth film, which has been called the best since the original.
* The third and especially fourth ''[[Final Destination]]'' films are considered a [[Dork Age]] for the franchise... a [[Dork Age]] that many critics deem to have ended with the fifth film, which has been called the best since the original.
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* While ''[[Frankenstein]]'' is widely remembered as a horror classic, most of what is associated with the monster comes from ''[[Bride of Frankenstein]]'', which is considered one of the best sequels in history.
* While ''[[Frankenstein]]'' is widely remembered as a horror classic, most of what is associated with the monster comes from ''[[Bride of Frankenstein]]'', which is considered one of the best sequels in history.
* While the first two ''[[Puppet Master]]'' movies are fairly decent horror flicks, the third one, which actually goes into Andre Toulon's back story, is considered a classic.
* While the first two ''[[Puppet Master]]'' movies are fairly decent horror flicks, the third one, which actually goes into Andre Toulon's back story, is considered a classic.
* Amid the bad movies that were released in the ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street]]'' franchise, ''A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors'' is actually considered to be a decent movie.


== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* An older literary example, is that [[Anthony Trollope (Creator)|Anthony Trollope]]'s celebrated novel ''Barchester Towers'' is actually the sequel to the lesser-known ''The Warden''.
* An older literary example, is that [[Anthony Trollope]]'s celebrated novel ''Barchester Towers'' is actually the sequel to the lesser-known ''The Warden''.
* The First two books of ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', Storm Front and Fool Moon, are considered to be okay, if nothing special. Book 3 onwards, when the main plot kicks in, is far better.
* The First two books of ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', Storm Front and Fool Moon, are considered to be okay, if nothing special. Book 3 onwards, when the main plot kicks in, is far better.
* [[Bruce Coville (Creator)|Bruce Coville]]'s ''[[My Teacher Is an Alien]]'' is a decent standalone science fiction story. The three sequels, however, are an epic, philosophical, and surprisingly deep look at the human condition through the eyes of extraterrestrials. When people praise the series, it is almost always the sequels they are talking about, with the original being more like a pilot episode that sets up the characters.
* [[Bruce Coville]]'s ''[[My Teacher Is an Alien]]'' is a decent standalone science fiction story. The three sequels, however, are an epic, philosophical, and surprisingly deep look at the human condition through the eyes of extraterrestrials. When people praise the series, it is almost always the sequels they are talking about, with the original being more like a pilot episode that sets up the characters.
** The Rod Allbright books follow the same pattern.
** The Rod Allbright books follow the same pattern.
* R.A. Salvatore's ''The Crystal Shard'' reads, especially in its first hundred pages, like it was written by a sixteen-year-old who'd just read ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. His later novels are a marked improvement in comparison.
* R.A. Salvatore's ''The Crystal Shard'' reads, especially in its first hundred pages, like it was written by a sixteen-year-old who'd just read ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. His later novels are a marked improvement in comparison.
** A sixteen-year-old who just ''loves'' brainwashed sluts. [[Sarcasm Mode|Though who doesn't?]]
** A sixteen-year-old who just ''loves'' brainwashed sluts. [[Sarcasm Mode|Though who doesn't?]]
* ''[[Inheritance Cycle|Eragon]]'' is ''[[A New Hope]]'' [[Recycled in Space|not in space]]. ''Eldest'' and ''Brisingr'' have started getting a little bit more original.
* ''[[Inheritance Cycle|Eragon]]'' is ''[[A New Hope]]'' [[Recycled in Space|not in space]]. ''Eldest'' and ''Brisingr'' have started getting a little bit more original.
* The first ''[[Shannara]]'' book was largely a ripoff of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. The later books found more solid footing. Brooks has stated that ''Elfstones'' (the second book) needed a lot of editorial work, but it's his favourite as a result.
* The first ''[[Shannara]]'' book was largely a ripoff of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''. The later books found more solid footing. Brooks has stated that ''Elfstones'' (the second book) needed a lot of editorial work, but it's his favourite as a result.
* The first ''[[The Culture|Culture]]'' novel, ''Consider Phlebas'', is a passable science fiction novel. The next, ''The Player of Games'', is the first in which the whole impact of what the Culture is like can be felt, and is usually the one recommended to read first.
* The first ''[[The Culture|Culture]]'' novel, ''Consider Phlebas'', is a passable science fiction novel. The next, ''The Player of Games'', is the first in which the whole impact of what the Culture is like can be felt, and is usually the one recommended to read first.
** The key problem being that in ''Consider Phlebas'', the Culture are the antagonists, with the [[Anti-Hero|hero]] of the story being an enemy soldier, more or less, who is obviously none too fond of them. The criticisms he raises of [[Iain Banks]] society are a lot easier to understand and ponder on when you actually know more about just what the Culture ''is''.
** The key problem being that in ''Consider Phlebas'', the Culture are the antagonists, with the [[Anti-Hero|hero]] of the story being an enemy soldier, more or less, who is obviously none too fond of them. The criticisms he raises of [[Iain Banks]] society are a lot easier to understand and ponder on when you actually know more about just what the Culture ''is''.
* Arguably, [[Dan Brown]]'s ''[[The Lost Symbol]]'', sequel to ''[[The Da Vinci Code]]'' - he breaks away from a lot of the cliches that had bogged down his earlier books (the formulaic opening sentence, the first good guy mentioned dying, a [[Token Romance]]) - and spins a thriller that ends up not postulating a likely incorrect view of history, but one that hinges on the idea that wisdom lives inside us.
* Arguably, [[Dan Brown]]'s ''[[The Lost Symbol]]'', sequel to ''[[The Da Vinci Code]]'' -- he breaks away from a lot of the cliches that had bogged down his earlier books (the formulaic opening sentence, the first good guy mentioned dying, a [[Token Romance]]) -- and spins a thriller that ends up not postulating a likely incorrect view of history, but one that hinges on the idea that wisdom lives inside us.



== Live-Action TV ==
== Live-Action TV ==
* The original ''[[Battlestar Galactica Classic]]'' was pure 70s sci-fi cheese, if a fun show nonetheless. The [[Sci Fi Channel]] [[Battlestar Galactica Reimagined|remake]], however, took the concept, scraped off the cheese, and made it [[Darker and Edgier]] with a great deal of success. The resulting show was considered a surprising improvement over the original series and garnered a large following.
* [[Battlestar Galactica (1978 TV series)|The original ''Battlestar Galactica'']] was pure 70s sci-fi cheese, if a fun show nonetheless. The [[Syfy]] [[Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)|remake]], however, took the concept, scraped off the cheese, and made it [[Darker and Edgier]] with a great deal of success. The resulting show was considered a surprising improvement over the original series and garnered a large following.
* ''[[Black Adder|The Blackadder]]'' isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to the next three series. Interestingly enough, some of the improvements were a result of the original not being as good as hoped; the producers were given a much lower budget to work with, leading to the small cast and the use of just a few sets, rather than location shoots, which became two of the trademarks of the series. Also different was the Blackadder character, which changed slightly from series to series, but never went back to the idiot of the first series.
* ''[[Blackadder|The Blackadder]]'' isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to the next three series. Interestingly enough, some of the improvements were a result of the original not being as good as hoped; the producers were given a much lower budget to work with, leading to the small cast and the use of just a few sets, rather than location shoots, which became two of the trademarks of the series. Also different was the Blackadder character, which changed slightly from series to series, but never went back to the idiot of the first series.



== Music ==
== Music ==
* Tends to be extremely common with a lot of bands, and quite often the first album most bands actually make are never released by the label that signs them or is cannibalized to make their first official album.
* Tends to be extremely common with a lot of bands, and quite often the first album most bands actually make are never released by the label that signs them or is cannibalized to make their first official album.
* [[Tori Amos (Music)|Tori Amos]]' original band, Y Kant Tori Read?, paled in comparison to her first solo album, ''Little Earthquakes''.
* [[Tori Amos]]' original band, Y Kant Tori Read?, paled in comparison to her first solo album, ''Little Earthquakes''.
* [[Radiohead]] got a significantly more sophisticated sound with ''The Bends'', than they had in their debut.
* [[Radiohead]] got a significantly more sophisticated sound with ''The Bends'', than they had in their debut.
** Similarly, Van Morrison, which like Radiohead got a debut with a [[Signature Song]] that the band/singer doesn't like very much ("Creep" for Radiohead, "Brown Eyed Girl" for Morrison), earned more acclaim with a highly experimental second album.
** Similarly, Van Morrison, who like Radiohead got a debut with a [[Signature Song]] that he didn't like very much ("Creep" for Radiohead, "Brown Eyed Girl" for Morrison), earned more acclaim with a highly experimental second album.
* [[Motley Crue|Mötley Crüe]]'s debut album, ''Too Fast for Love'', was a decent glam metal album, held back by inexperience on behalf of the band and rather inept management. Their next album was expected to be more solid, but when ''Shout at the Devil'' was released it blew said expectations out of the water. This happened again later, twice. After Vince Neil killed someone in a car crash and served a jail term, no one expected much out of the Crue, but ''Girls Girls Girls'' ended up being a great album. Unfortunately, the band's well-publicised substance abuse problems made the tour complete crap, and between Tommy Lee and Heather Locklear's marriage, Nikki Sixx's near-fatal heroin overdose, Mick Mars' struggle with alcoholism and ankylosing spondylitis, and Vince Neil effectively leaving the band for a time, they were pretty much dismissed as washed-up former stars. Then, they released ''Dr. Feelgood''. In just over a month they were number one on the charts. ''Dr. Feelgood'' is still considered their best album by most fans.
* [[Mötley Crüe]]'s debut album, ''Too Fast for Love'', was a decent glam metal album, held back by inexperience on behalf of the band and rather inept management. Their next album was expected to be more solid, but when ''Shout at the Devil'' was released it blew said expectations out of the water. This happened again later, twice. After Vince Neil killed someone in a car crash and served a jail term, no one expected much out of the Crüe, but ''Girls Girls Girls'' ended up being a great album. Unfortunately, the band's well-publicised substance abuse problems made the tour complete crap, and between Tommy Lee and Heather Locklear's marriage, Nikki Sixx's near-fatal heroin overdose, Mick Mars' struggle with alcoholism and ankylosing spondylitis, and Vince Neil effectively leaving the band for a time, they were pretty much dismissed as washed-up former stars. Then, they released ''Dr. Feelgood''. In just over a month they were number one on the charts. ''Dr. Feelgood'' is still considered their best album by most fans.
* [[Black Sabbath (Music)|Black Sabbath]]'s first, eponymous album was decent, but ''Paranoid'' really knocked down all barriers and led to more heavy metal songs being played on the radio, including their own "Paranoid" and "Iron Man".
* [[Black Sabbath]]'s first, eponymous album was decent, but ''Paranoid'' really knocked down all barriers and led to more heavy metal songs being played on the radio, including their own "Paranoid" and "Iron Man".
* [[Iron Maiden (Music)|Iron Maiden]] are a borderline example. Their first two albums were decent, featuring more glam-like lyrics. After ''Killers'', Paul di'Anno was replaced by [[Bruce Dickinson (Music)|Bruce Dickinson]]. Then ''The Number Of The Beast'' happened. The rest is metallic history.
* [[Iron Maiden]] are a borderline example. Their first two albums were decent, featuring more glam-like lyrics. After ''Killers'', Paul di'Anno was replaced by [[Bruce Dickinson]]. Then ''The Number Of The Beast'' happened. The rest is metallic history.
* After the release of their first album, [[Talk Talk]] was dismissed as a cheap [[Duran Duran]] knock-off band. With each successive album, however, their sound matured and they ventured into more experimental territory, eventually dropping the New Wave genre completely and becoming an influential [[Post-Rock]] vanguard, culminating with their final album, 1991's critically adored ''Laughing Stock''.
* After the release of their first album, [[Talk Talk]] was dismissed as a cheap [[Duran Duran]] knock-off band. With each successive album, however, their sound matured and they ventured into more experimental territory, eventually dropping the New Wave genre completely and becoming an influential [[Post Rock]] vanguard, culminating with their final album, 1991's critically adored ''Laughing Stock''.
* Tchaikovsky only wrote three symphonies. They are numbered 4, 5, and 6. (For those who aren't classical music aficionados, his first three symphonies aren't nearly as good as the last three, and are almost never performed.)
* Tchaikovsky only wrote three symphonies. They are numbered 4, 5, and 6. (For those who aren't classical music aficionados, his first three symphonies aren't nearly as good as the last three, and are almost never performed.)
* Pantera made albums prior to ''Cowboys From Hell''. [[Old Shame|Very, very bad albums.]]
* [[Pantera]] made albums prior to ''Cowboys From Hell''. [[Old Shame|Very, very bad albums.]]
* [[Nirvana]]'s ''Nevermind''. The band's first album ''Bleach'' is a muddy sounding and sporadically brilliant album (compare "Blew", "Negative Creep" and "About a Girl" with the less distinguished songs like "Big Cheese", "Swap Meet" and "Downer"). Few people at the time saw any reason why Nirvana were any more promising than other Seattle bands like Mudhoney, TAD, and Mother Love Bone.
* [[Nirvana]]'s ''Nevermind''. The band's first album ''Bleach'' is a muddy sounding and sporadically brilliant album (compare "Blew", "Negative Creep" and "About a Girl" with the less distinguished songs like "Big Cheese", "Swap Meet" and "Downer"). Few people at the time saw any reason why Nirvana were any more promising than other Seattle bands like Mudhoney, TAD, and Mother Love Bone.
** Ditto with [[The Smashing Pumpkins (Music)|The Smashing Pumpkins]]; their first album ''Gish'' was a weird mashup of pre-grunge, post-80s Hard rock. By comparison, ''Siamese Dream'' is considered on par with ''Nevermind'' when it comes to 90s alternative.
** Ditto with [[The Smashing Pumpkins]]; their first album ''Gish'' was a weird mashup of pre-grunge, post-80s Hard rock. By comparison, ''Siamese Dream'' is considered on par with ''Nevermind'' when it comes to 90s alternative.
* Imagine if, tomorrow, [[Miley Cyrus]] released an award-winning, angsty, introspective, multi-platinum-selling album that would become one of the defining albums of the decade it was released in. Got that picture in your head? Good, because that is exactly what happened in 1995, when a [[Canada, Eh?|Canadian]] [[Teen Idol]] by the name of [[Alanis Morissette]] [[New Sound Album|switched]] from cheesy bubblegum pop to chick rock and released ''Jagged Little Pill''. There's a reason why nobody mentions [[Old Shame|the first two albums]] in her discography.
* Imagine if, tomorrow, [[Selena Gomez]] released an award-winning, angsty, introspective, multi-platinum-selling album that would become one of the defining albums of the decade it was released in. Got that picture in your head? Good, because that is exactly what happened in 1995, when a [[Canada, Eh?|Canadian]] [[Teen Idol]] by the name of [[Alanis Morissette]] [[New Sound Album|switched]] from cheesy bubblegum pop to chick rock and released ''Jagged Little Pill''. There's a reason why nobody mentions [[Old Shame|the first two albums]] in her discography.
* The first two albums by [[Faith No More]], when it was in its original Chuck Mosely-headed incarnation, were uninspiring, if not utter crap. Then Mike Patton replaced Mosely and, starting with ''[[Crowning Music of Awesome|The Real Thing]]'', the band became one of the all-time greats.
* The first two albums by [[Faith No More]], when it was in its original Chuck Mosely-headed incarnation, were uninspiring, if not utter crap. Then Mike Patton replaced Mosely and, starting with ''[[Crowning Music of Awesome|The Real Thing]]'', the band became one of the all-time greats.
* [[Kelly Clarkson]]'s first album ''Thankful'', made just off of her winning ''[[American Idol]]'', was a modest hit. Its success was credited to the popularity to the show more than to her. Her second album ''Breakaway'', featuring such hits as "Behind These Hazel Eyes", "Walk Away", "Since U Been Gone" and the title track, was ''huge'' and established her firmly as a pop star.
* [[Kelly Clarkson]]'s first album ''Thankful'', made just off of her winning ''[[American Idol]]'', was a modest hit. Its success was credited to the popularity to the show more than to her. Her second album ''Breakaway'', featuring such hits as "Behind These Hazel Eyes", "Walk Away", "Since U Been Gone" and the title track, was ''huge'' and established her firmly as a pop star.
* [[Simple Minds (Music)|Simple Minds]]' first album is... Well, let's just say that "Simple Minds play [[Three Chords and The Truth]]" is at best a ''flawed'' proposition. Had they not made ''[[Cult Classic|Reel to Real Cacophony]]'' but a year later, it's doubtful that any but the most devoted punk fan would have had the slightest recollection of them.
* [[Simple Minds]]' first album is... Well, let's just say that "Simple Minds play [[Three Chords and the Truth]]" is at best a ''flawed'' proposition. Had they not made ''[[Cult Classic|Reel to Real Cacophony]]'' but a year later, it's doubtful that any but the most devoted punk fan would have had the slightest recollection of them.
* The Slits. Though their early work was never ''officially'' released, an appearance in [[The Punk Rock Movie]], various high profile gigs supporting [[The Clash]] and [[The Sex Pistols]], and a Peel Session (which is more than many of their peers ever got around to doing) firmly established them as a shambolic but enthusiastic Punk band, most notable for being one of the very few all women line ups of the time. When they eventually recorded an ''official'' first album, 1979's Cut, they'd learned how to play their instruments and veered wildly off into Dub and Funk territories. It was a landmark release in Post-Punk history, but was such a radical shift in style and playing ability it prompted accusations of hiring session musicians and never actually playing on the record.
* The Slits. Though their early work was never ''officially'' released, an appearance in ''[[The Punk Rock Movie]]'', various high profile gigs supporting [[The Clash]] and [[The Sex Pistols]], and a Peel Session (which is more than many of their peers ever got around to doing) firmly established them as a shambolic but enthusiastic Punk band, most notable for being one of the very few all women line ups of the time. When they eventually recorded an ''official'' first album, 1979's Cut, they'd learned how to play their instruments and veered wildly off into Dub and Funk territories. It was a landmark release in Post-Punk history, but was such a radical shift in style and playing ability it prompted accusations of hiring session musicians and never actually playing on the record.
* Similar to the [[Radiohead]] and [[Van Morrison]] examples, [[Jethro Tull]] and [[Rush]] have parallel origins: Their first albums, ''This Was'' and ''Rush'' respectively, were basically just rip-offs of [[Cream]] and [[Led Zeppelin]], again, respectively, then their second albums, ''Stand Up'' and ''Fly By Night'' were considered improvements, their third albums ''Benefit'' and ''Caress of Steel'' received mixed reviews(though more so in the latter case), and their fourth albums, ''Aqualung'' and ''2112'' are considered their breakouts, establishing them as legends of [[Progressive Rock]].
* Similar to the [[Radiohead]] and [[Van Morrison]] examples, [[Jethro Tull]] and [[Rush]] have parallel origins: Their first albums, ''This Was'' and ''Rush'' respectively, were basically just rip-offs of [[Cream]] and [[Led Zeppelin]], again, respectively, then their second albums, ''Stand Up'' and ''Fly By Night'' were considered improvements, their third albums ''Benefit'' and ''Caress of Steel'' received mixed reviews (though more so in the latter case), and their fourth albums, ''Aqualung'' and ''2112'' are considered their breakouts, establishing them as legends of [[Progressive Rock]].
* It's generally accepted that [[Blur]]'s debut ''Leisure'' has its moments, but is overall a rather patchy late-"baggy" era album. Without the benefit of hindsight, there's nothing to indicate that three years later they'd be one of Britain's biggest bands of the mid-90s with the iconic Britpop release ''Parklife''. (The change in direction- and improvement- started with ''Modern Life is Rubbish'', but that wasn't a major success on its first release).
* It's generally accepted that [[Blur]]'s debut ''Leisure'' has its moments, but is overall a rather patchy late-"baggy" era album. Without the benefit of hindsight, there's nothing to indicate that three years later they'd be one of Britain's biggest bands of the mid-90s with the iconic Britpop release ''Parklife''. (The change in direction- and improvement- started with ''Modern Life is Rubbish'', but that wasn't a major success on its first release).


== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* Most of Matt Ward's 5th edition codexes are rather... divisive among Warhammer40000 fans. The Space Marines codex has some rather... [[Base Breaker|Base Braking]] fluff, the Blood Angels Codex has several [[Game Breaker|Game Breakers]], while the Grey Knights codex was simultaneously a [[Game Breaker]] and an enormous [[Base Breaker]] fluff-wise. The reaction to the news that he would be writing the 5th Edition Necrons codex was... less than stellar. But when the codex was released, it turned out the Necrons Codex was well balanced, neither too strong nor too weak, and while it did introduce several massive retcons to the existing Necrons fluff, most fans agree that those changes were long overdue and rescued Necrons from becoming a [[Generic Doomsday Villain]].
* Most of Matt Ward's 5th edition codexes are rather... divisive among ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' fans. The Space Marines codex has some rather... [[Base Breaker|Base Breaking]] fluff, the Blood Angels Codex has several [[Game Breaker]]s, while the Grey Knights codex was simultaneously a [[Game Breaker]] and an enormous [[Base Breaker]] fluff-wise. The reaction to the news that he would be writing the 5th Edition Necrons codex was... less than stellar. But when the codex was released, it turned out the Necrons Codex was well balanced, neither too strong nor too weak, and while it did introduce several massive retcons to the existing Necrons fluff, most fans agree that those changes were long overdue and rescued Necrons from becoming a [[Generic Doomsday Villain]].



== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* The original ''[[Street Fighter (Video Game)|Street Fighter]]'' was a broken mess, with bad controls being the one huge problem that brought it down. By turning the [[Good Bad Bugs]] into gameplay features, removing the worst Bad Bad Bugs, and generally improving the controls, ''[[Street Fighter II (Video Game)|Street Fighter II]]'' is credited with [[Genre Popularizer|popularizing the one-on-one tournament fighter genre]] and becoming a phenomenon.
* The original ''[[Street Fighter (video game)|Street Fighter]]'' was a broken mess, with bad controls being the one huge problem that brought it down. By turning the [[Good Bad Bugs]] into gameplay features, removing the worst Bad Bad Bugs, and generally improving the controls, ''[[Street Fighter II]]'' is credited with [[Genre Popularizer|popularizing the one-on-one tournament fighter genre]] and becoming a phenomenon.
* Due to the ''[[Final Fantasy (Franchise)|Final Fantasy]]'' franchise and it's [[Broken Base]], ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' received a lot of venom for fans for its [[No Sidepaths No Exploration No Freedom|linearity]]. Then came ''[[Final Fantasy XIII 2]]'', a game that not only doesn't feel like a narrow corridor, but has side-quests up the wazoo.
* Due to the ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' franchise and its [[Broken Base]], ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' received a lot of venom for fans for its [[No Sidepaths, No Exploration, No Freedom|linearity]]. Then came ''[[Final Fantasy XIII-2]]'', a game that not only doesn't feel like a narrow corridor, but has side-quests up the wazoo.
** The ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' prequel ''[[Crisis Core]]'', while repetitive, was considered a step above ''[[Dirge of Cerberus]]''. [[Final Fantasy VII Advent Children]] got a far superior extended cut called ''Advent Children Complete.''
** The ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' prequel ''[[Crisis Core]]'', while repetitive, was considered a step above ''[[Dirge of Cerberus]]''. [[Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children]] got a far superior extended cut called ''Advent Children Complete.''
* The first ''[[Time Splitters]]'' was an average, plotless, mildly quirky fetch-quest game. The series really took off to its cult status at the second installment; a [[Rule of Fun|fun]], [[Rule of Cool|badass]], and most importantly ''[[Rule of Funny|HILARIOUS]]'' [[Spiritual Sequel]] ''and'' [[Affectionate Parody]] of the behemoth that was ''[[Golden Eye 1997 (Video Game)|GoldenEye]]'' in its day, courtesy of Rare veterans. Think of everything that made ''[[Golden Eye 1997 (Video Game)|GoldenEye]]'' good, turn it [[Up to Eleven]], add [[Everything's Better With Monkeys|monkeys]] [[Everything's Deader With Zombies|and zombies]] [[More Dakka|with shotguns]] and you're not even close to the [[Crazy Awesome|utter craziness]] this series embodies. '''''[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|ZOMBIE MONKEYS.]]'''''
* The first ''[[Time Splitters]]'' was an average, plotless, mildly quirky fetch-quest game. The series really took off to its cult status at the second installment; a [[Rule of Fun|fun]], [[Rule of Cool|badass]], and most importantly ''[[Rule of Funny|HILARIOUS]]'' [[Spiritual Sequel]] ''and'' [[Affectionate Parody]] of the behemoth that was ''[[GoldenEye 007 (1997 video game)|GoldenEye]]'' in its day, courtesy of Rare veterans. Think of everything that made ''[[GoldenEye 007 (1997 video game)|GoldenEye]]'' good, turn it [[Up to Eleven]], add [[Everything's Better with Monkeys|monkeys]] [[Everything's Deader with Zombies|and zombies]] [[More Dakka|with shotguns]] and you're not even close to the [[Crazy Awesome|utter craziness]] this series embodies. '''''[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|ZOMBIE MONKEYS.]]'''''
** Whilst the second game's campaign consisted of mostly [[Stand Alone Episode|stand-alone missions]], the sequel's has a much stronger, inter-connected storyline that culminated in the reveal of the [[Big Bad|series villain]]. Whilst not quite as fast-paced and [[Crazy Awesome|insane]] as the previous entry and with arguably weaker multi-player, the faults of both games balance each other out and they're often considered on par with each other, with which is better depending largely on [[Broken Base|one's personal preferences]] (most fans do consider them both great games however).
** While the second game's campaign consisted of mostly [[Stand Alone Episode|stand-alone missions]], the sequel's has a much stronger, inter-connected storyline that culminated in the reveal of the [[Big Bad|series villain]]. While not quite as fast-paced and [[Crazy Awesome|insane]] as the previous entry and with arguably weaker multi-player, the faults of both games balance each other out and they're often considered on par with each other, with which is better depending largely on [[Broken Base|one's personal preferences]] (most fans do consider them both great games however).
* It certainly happens in ''[[Dungeon Siege]]''. In the first game, the characters you could hire for your party were a bunch of one-dimensional mercenaries that came out of nowhere. In ''Dungeon Siege II'', the characters were given their own personalities, conversations amongst each other, and even their own side quests.
* It certainly happens in ''[[Dungeon Siege]]''. In the first game, the characters you could hire for your party were a bunch of one-dimensional mercenaries that came out of nowhere. In ''Dungeon Siege II'', the characters were given their own personalities, conversations among each other, and even their own side quests.
* ''[[Zone of the Enders]]'' sold well [[Just Here for Godzilla|mostly because]] it came with a demo for ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]''. The game itself was decent enough but suffered from repetitive battles, criminal shortness and [[Wangst|whiny]] and cliched characters, leading to a somewhat mixed reaction. As such, many people who liked the original concept were happy to see the sequel tighten up the controls, give you twice as many options in battle and include a long and interesting plot to follow. They were even more surprised to see whiny and annoying characters in the first game return in style, having [[Took a Level In Badass|leveled in Bad Ass]] in the intervening time between games.
* ''[[Zone of the Enders]]'' sold well [[Just Here for Godzilla|mostly because]] it came with a demo for ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]''. The game itself was decent enough but suffered from repetitive battles, criminal shortness and [[Wangst|whiny]] and cliched characters, leading to a somewhat mixed reaction. As such, many people who liked the original concept were happy to see the sequel tighten up the controls, give you twice as many options in battle and include a long and interesting plot to follow. They were even more surprised to see whiny and annoying characters in the first game return in style, having [[Took a Level in Badass|leveled in Bad Ass]] in the intervening time between games.
* ''[[Bloody Roar]]'' was an obscure, poorly-balanced mess of a game, with overly simple but awkward controls, poor AI, and a wannabe [[SNK Boss]], thus the only appeal of the game was its relative simplicity and novelty, and possible pandering to furries ([[Stripperific|or Alice]]). ''Bloody Roar 2'', however, was an elegant masterpiece, fixing the system into something much less cumbersome and very easy to play, yet empathizing mind games and strategies, and allowing the player (or Cpu) to easily counter fools who would try to button mash, the balance was much better (though still far from perfect..), Story mode was introduced, and the game's story improved tenfold, the AI was dramatically improved, the low levels still being fairly easy and welcoming to new players (you could button mash most of the opponents on setting 1 and 2, though if you tried it on the final boss you would be horribly beaten down) and the hard levels capable of challenging an experienced and intelligent player, and the Final Boss was extremely hard and clever, yet he was still balanced for VS play, and fought fairly (no reading your buttons, or moving at impossible speeds, or moves that take off half your life in one hit, though he could combo you painfully). Sadly the game only managed a small yet strong fanbase, possibly due to the first game, and the lack of a budget. The later games fell into [[Adaptation Decay]]; 3 and Primal Fury/Extreme are still fun, but 4 managed to kill the entire franchise.
* ''[[Bloody Roar]]'' was an obscure, poorly-balanced mess of a game, with overly simple but awkward controls, poor AI, and a wannabe [[SNK Boss]], thus the only appeal of the game was its relative simplicity and novelty, and possible pandering to furries ([[Stripperific|or Alice]]). ''Bloody Roar 2'', however, was an elegant masterpiece, fixing the system into something much less cumbersome and very easy to play, yet empathizing mind games and strategies, and allowing the player (or CPU) to easily counter fools who would try to button mash, the balance was much better (though still far from perfect..), story mode was introduced, and the game's story improved tenfold, the AI was dramatically improved, the low levels still being fairly easy and welcoming to new players (you could button mash most of the opponents on setting 1 and 2, though if you tried it on the final boss you would be horribly beaten down) and the hard levels capable of challenging an experienced and intelligent player, and the Final Boss was extremely hard and clever, yet he was still balanced for VS play, and fought fairly (no reading your buttons, or moving at impossible speeds, or moves that take off half your life in one hit, though he could combo you painfully). Sadly the game only managed a small yet strong fanbase, possibly due to the first game, and the lack of a budget. The later games fell into [[Adaptation Decay]]; 3 and Primal Fury/Extreme are still fun, but 4 managed to kill the entire franchise.
* ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'' 1 and 2 were bashed by reviews and many gamers alike, but from the 3rd game onwards, the line was well received for a while. Recently, it's become mocked by reviewers (but still maintains a base of hardcore fans) [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|because it remains a similar game in every incarnation]].
* ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'' 1 and 2 were bashed by reviews and many gamers alike, but from the 3rd game onward, the line was well received for a while. Recently, it's become mocked by reviewers (but still maintains a base of hardcore fans) [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|because it remains a similar game in every incarnation]].
** As a note, ''Dynasty Warriors 1'' is not part of the same series, which is why the Japanese series numbers are one less than the NA series numbers.
** As a note, ''Dynasty Warriors 1'' is not part of the same series, which is why the Japanese series numbers are one less than the NA series numbers.
** The crossover series ''[[Warriors Orochi]]'' had a surprisingly improved third game. While it stays true to the ''Warriors'' formula of "kill as many bad guys as possible", it also added a level editor, cooperative and online play, a single overarching story arc in place of the usual faction-based approach, and a [[Loads and Loads of Characters|ginormous cast of characters]] from the series' history<ref>over 100 characters from both sides as of ''[[Dynasty Warriors]] 7'' and ''[[Samurai Warriors]] 3'', along with guest appearances from other famous Tecmo and Koei games such as ''[[Ninja Gaiden]]'', ''[[Dead or Alive]]'', and ''Bladestorm''</ref>.
** The crossover series ''[[Warriors Orochi]]'' had a surprisingly improved third game. While it stays true to the ''Warriors'' formula of "kill as many bad guys as possible", it also added a level editor, cooperative and online play, a single overarching story arc in place of the usual faction-based approach, and a [[Loads and Loads of Characters|ginormous cast of characters]] from the series' history.<ref>Over 100 characters from both sides as of ''[[Dynasty Warriors]] 7'' and ''[[Samurai Warriors]] 3'', along with guest appearances from other famous Tecmo and Koei games such as ''[[Ninja Gaiden]]'', ''[[Dead or Alive]]'', and ''Bladestorm''</ref>
* Similarly, ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' was quite an improvement on ''Soul Blade/Soul Edge'' (most people think the series began with ''Soul Calibur'').
* Similarly, ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' was quite an improvement on ''Soul Blade/Soul Edge'' (most people think the series began with ''Soul Calibur'').
* Several [[Dating Sim]] series (such as ''X-Change'') start with a [[Porn Without Plot]] game with shallow characters that exist almost solely for the main character to have sex with and little interaction with the player (who's assumed to be too busy interacting with themselves) beyond them clicking to the next scene. Then a sequel adds things like actual plot, characters, branching stories, and the sorts of things that separate porn from a story that happens to involve sex. They also often get improved budgets allowing things like better art, more CG pics for scenes, and voice acting. In fact, ever so often a series gets so improved, they'll make a ''non''-hentai version, which have a habit of [[Adaptation Displacement|completely overshadowing the original]].
* Several [[Dating Sim]] series (such as ''X-Change'') start with a [[Porn Without Plot]] game with shallow characters that exist almost solely for the main character to have sex with and little interaction with the player (who's assumed to be too busy interacting with themselves) beyond them clicking to the next scene. Then a sequel adds things like actual plot, characters, branching stories, and the sorts of things that separate porn from a story that happens to involve sex. They also often get improved budgets allowing things like better art, more CG pics for scenes, and voice acting. In fact, ever so often a series gets so improved, they'll make a ''non''-hentai version, which have a habit of [[Adaptation Displacement|completely overshadowing the original]].
** ''[[Muv Luv]]'' plays with this by [[Trolling Creator|initially pretending to be an average-to-bad]] [[Eroge]], but on its second half it [[Genre Shift|changes the setting]] and becomes a [[Sci Fi]] war drama. Its [[Oddly Named Sequel]] is widely considered one of the best [[Eroge]] stories ever.
** ''[[Muv-Luv]]'' plays with this by [[Trolling Creator|initially pretending to be an average-to-bad]] [[Eroge]], but on its second half it [[Genre Shift|changes the setting]] and becomes a [[Sci Fi]] war drama. Its [[Oddly-Named Sequel 2: Electric Boogaloo]] is widely considered one of the best [[Eroge]] stories ever.
* While the original ''[[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|Dragon Quest I]]'' scores points for innovation, it's aged terribly compared to the first installments of ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' and ''[[Phantasy Star]]''. ''[[Dragon Quest II (Video Game)|Dragon Quest II]]'' fares worse since it can't even play the innovation card. ''[[Dragon Quest III (Video Game)|Dragon Quest III]]'' on the other hand takes the basic job class system and expends on upon it. It also most likely contains the [[Ur Example]] of the [[Monster Arena]] and building a new town. The [[Game Boy Color]] [[Video Game Remake|remake]] is even better adding a new job class, a [[Bonus Dungeon]], a redone localization and a whole lot more.
* While the original ''[[Dragon Quest I]]'' scores points for innovation, it's aged terribly compared to the first installments of ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' and ''[[Phantasy Star]]''. ''[[Dragon Quest II]]'' fares worse since it can't even play the innovation card. ''[[Dragon Quest III]]'' on the other hand takes the basic job class system and expends on upon it. It also most likely contains the [[Ur Example]] of the [[Monster Arena]] and building a new town. The [[Game Boy Color]] [[Video Game Remake|remake]] is even better adding a new job class, a [[Bonus Dungeon]], a redone localization and a whole lot more.
* Speaking of ''[[Phantasy Star]]''; the original was considered incredible for its time, and ''[[Phantasy Star II]]'' had an involved plot and interesting characters, but not nearly enough dialogue, an [[Blind Idiot Translation|awkward translation]], and a variety of weird events and sidequests that had no real bearing on the story, and ''[[Phantasy Star III]]: Generations of Doom'' [[Oddball in The Series|looked weird]], had a boring story, lots of characters but almost no development for any of them and even less connection to the main plot... then ''[[Phantasy Star IV]]: The End of the Millennium'' came along with its beautiful graphics, cool music, involved and complex dialogue, interesting and developed characters, and intensely satisfying payoff for long-term fans of the series.
* Speaking of ''[[Phantasy Star]]''; the original was considered incredible for its time, and ''[[Phantasy Star II]]'' had an involved plot and interesting characters, but not nearly enough dialogue, an [[Blind Idiot Translation|awkward translation]], and a variety of weird events and sidequests that had no real bearing on the story, and ''[[Phantasy Star III]]: Generations of Doom'' [[Oddball in the Series|looked weird]], had a boring story, lots of characters but almost no development for any of them and even less connection to the main plot... then ''[[Phantasy Star IV]]: The End of the Millennium'' came along with its beautiful graphics, cool music, involved and complex dialogue, interesting and developed characters, and intensely satisfying payoff for long-term fans of the series.
* ''[[Hitman]]: Codename 47'' featured a good concept but had very twitchy AI, a buggy disguise system, and no ability to save during missions. ''Hitman: Silent Assassin'' added the ability to save as well making improvements on the shortfalls of the original, as did each installment afterwards. ''Contracts'' also added better non-lethal takedown methods and ''Blood Money'' added the ability to use the environment to make your kills look like accidents.
* ''[[Hitman]]: Codename 47'' featured a good concept but had very twitchy AI, a buggy disguise system, and no ability to save during missions. ''Hitman: Silent Assassin'' added the ability to save as well making improvements on the shortfalls of the original, as did each installment afterwards. ''Contracts'' also added better non-lethal takedown methods and ''Blood Money'' added the ability to use the environment to make your kills look like accidents.
** Also, ''Contracts'' was mostly a remake of ''Codename 47'' with gameplay and level-design improvements, justified through unreliable memories of the player character {{spoiler|as his life is flashing before his eyes during a near death experience.}} Because of this (and because the first game was PC-only while the others had console ports) the "Hitman Trilogy" re-release only features the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th games.
** Also, ''Contracts'' was mostly a remake of ''Codename 47'' with gameplay and level-design improvements, justified through unreliable memories of the player character {{spoiler|as his life is flashing before his eyes during a near death experience.}} Because of this (and because the first game was PC-only while the others had console ports) the "Hitman Trilogy" re-release only features the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th games.
* The original ''[[Summoner]]'' was a fairly dull RPG, albeit one with some good moments. The second was far better, having a significantly better combat system, voice actors who sounded like they cared, and a badass female protagonist who could shapeshift into monsters.
* The original ''[[Summoner]]'' was a fairly dull RPG, albeit one with some good moments. The second was far better, having a significantly better combat system, voice actors who sounded like they cared, and a badass female protagonist who could shapeshift into monsters.
* While the earlier ''[[Armored Core (Video Game)|Armored Core]]'' games had their own fandom, the games had really problematic graphics, confusing storylines, and [[Some Dexterity Required|really, really laggy controls]]. It wasn't until Master of Arena that the arena system even came in, and until the 3 series that the graphics and controls received good reviews.
* While the earlier ''[[Armored Core]]'' games had their own fandom, the games had really problematic graphics, confusing storylines, and [[Some Dexterity Required|really, really laggy controls]]. It wasn't until Master of Arena that the arena system even came in, and until the 3 series that the graphics and controls received good reviews.
* ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]'' did not have a pleasant entry to the world of 3D PS2 gaming. ''Journey to Jaburo'' was aimed fully at the fanboys with loads of FMV and well-done audio, but horrible in-game graphics and controls combined with lackluster melee combat ruined the game even for many fans of the series, and worried fans were concerned that the series would be abandoned or left as schlock. ''Federation vs Zeon'' managed to make a surprisingly good VirtualOn knockoff with a worthwhile campaign mode and decent replay value. ''Zeonic Front'' actually made an enjoyable squad-based tactics game with actually memorable original characters and strategy, and ''Encounters in Space'' was likewise playable even for those that weren't already into the series.
* ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]'' did not have a pleasant entry to the world of 3D PS2 gaming. ''Journey to Jaburo'' was aimed fully at the fanboys with loads of FMV and well-done audio, but horrible in-game graphics and controls combined with lackluster melee combat ruined the game even for many fans of the series, and worried fans were concerned that the series would be abandoned or left as schlock. ''Federation vs Zeon'' managed to make a surprisingly good VirtualOn knockoff with a worthwhile campaign mode and decent replay value. ''Zeonic Front'' actually made an enjoyable squad-based tactics game with actually memorable original characters and strategy, and ''Encounters in Space'' was likewise playable even for those that weren't already into the series.
** Speaking of, there's also the ''[[Gundam vs. Series]]'', which went through [[Sequelitis]] (''AEUG vs Titans'' and ''Gundam vs Zeta Gundam'', which were little more than ''Fed vs Zeon'' with new machines) before swinging back around into this trope's territory with the ''Alliance vs ZAFT'' games (which refined the game engine by speeding things up, making melee more viable, and adding in new tricks like boost dashing and shield defense) and the ''Gundam vs Gundam'' games (which continued the refinements while bringing in mecha from the Gundam franchise's 30-year history rather than focusing on just a single show at a time).
** Speaking of, there's also the ''[[Gundam vs. Series]]'', which went through [[Sequelitis]] (''AEUG vs Titans'' and ''Gundam vs Zeta Gundam'', which were little more than ''Fed vs Zeon'' with new machines) before swinging back around into this trope's territory with the ''Alliance vs ZAFT'' games (which refined the game engine by speeding things up, making melee more viable, and adding in new tricks like boost dashing and shield defense) and the ''Gundam vs Gundam'' games (which continued the refinements while bringing in mecha from the Gundam franchise's 30-year history rather than focusing on just a single show at a time).
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* The first ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'' game was a so-so spinoff with some occasional bright spots. Its sequel, ''Explorers of Time and Darkness'' streamlines a few things, adds Wi-fi compatibility, {{spoiler|adds much better plot twists}}, and generally has a grander and more entertaining plotline with genuine emotion.
* The first ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'' game was a so-so spinoff with some occasional bright spots. Its sequel, ''Explorers of Time and Darkness'' streamlines a few things, adds Wi-fi compatibility, {{spoiler|adds much better plot twists}}, and generally has a grander and more entertaining plotline with genuine emotion.
** The same can be said of the ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]'' games. The first game was different, and it was neat to play as something other than a trainer, but many gameplay elements were hard (must not slip off edge of disgustingly slimy floor!) to nearly impossible (hold still, Pokémon, so I can draw twenty loops around you without lifting my stylus!). The second game, ''Shadows of Almia'', had a better and longer plot, let you explore your world more, made it so you didn't have to draw twenty loops in one go, and actually had adults that were worth something besides giving you your initial equipment. Much more fun. The third game was arguably even ''better'', taking all that good stuff and expanding it.
** The same can be said of the ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]'' games. The first game was different, and it was neat to play as something other than a trainer, but many gameplay elements were hard (must not slip off edge of disgustingly slimy floor!) to nearly impossible (hold still, Pokémon, so I can draw twenty loops around you without lifting my stylus!). The second game, ''Shadows of Almia'', had a better and longer plot, let you explore your world more, made it so you didn't have to draw twenty loops in one go, and actually had adults that were worth something besides giving you your initial equipment. Much more fun. The third game was arguably even ''better'', taking all that good stuff and expanding it.
* The first two ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'' games were mild successes that garnered mixed reviews due to somewhat dodgy gameplay and older style graphics. The only real reason why they attracted much attention was because of [[No Such Thing As Bad Publicity|the controversy that they caused]] -- which had been largely whipped by the developers for exactly this reason. With the jump to 3D in ''[[Grand Theft Auto III (Video Game)|Grand Theft Auto III]]'', the game garnered near universal acclaim, kicked up a firestorm of controversy, and changed the entire industry with its [[Wide Open Sandbox]] gameplay.
* The first two ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'' games were mild successes that garnered mixed reviews due to somewhat dodgy gameplay and older style graphics. The only real reason why they attracted much attention was because of [[No Such Thing as Bad Publicity|the controversy that they caused]]—which had been largely whipped by the developers for exactly this reason. With the jump to 3D in ''[[Grand Theft Auto III]]'', the game garnered near universal acclaim, kicked up a firestorm of controversy, and changed the entire industry with its [[Wide Open Sandbox]] gameplay.
* [[Rockstar Games]] as a whole are very good at this. ''[[Red Dead Revolver]]'' was a regular game at best. ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]'' is basically ''Revolver'' plus the ''GTA'' formula, with next generation graphics and a much richer plot.
* [[Rockstar Games]] as a whole are very good at this. ''[[Red Dead Revolver]]'' was a regular game at best. ''[[Red Dead Redemption]]'' is basically ''Revolver'' plus the ''GTA'' formula, with next generation graphics and a much richer plot.
* ''[[Metal Gear Acid|Metal Gear AC!D]]'' was ambitious, but very unrefined, with potentially broken gameplay. ''AC!D 2'' sharpened the graphics, tidied up the engine, and added a lot of depth and spontaneity to the gameplay. Also, the story made sense this time around.
* ''[[Metal Gear Acid|Metal Gear AC!D]]'' was ambitious, but very unrefined, with potentially broken gameplay. ''AC!D 2'' sharpened the graphics, tidied up the engine, and added a lot of depth and spontaneity to the gameplay. Also, the story made sense this time around.
** ''AC!D 2'' also played to the fans of the first by bringing back what many would acknowledge as the first game's best moment - as the final boss of that game comes back (and, in a masterful bit of foreshadowing, you ''run on top of it'' without noticing unless you ''really'' paid attention), only tightened and with a potentially nasty time limit to make it harder.
** ''AC!D 2'' also played to the fans of the first by bringing back what many would acknowledge as the first game's best moment - as the final boss of that game comes back (and, in a masterful bit of foreshadowing, you ''run on top of it'' without noticing unless you ''really'' paid attention), only tightened and with a potentially nasty time limit to make it harder.
** If you didn't like all the [[Guide Dang It]] and lack of good stealth options in the original ''[[Metal Gear 1987 (Video Game)|Metal Gear 1987]]'', its sequel, ''Solid Snake'', could be considered to fit this trope.
** If you didn't like all the [[Guide Dang It]] and lack of good stealth options in the original ''[[Metal Gear (video game)|Metal Gear]]'', its sequel, ''Solid Snake'', could be considered to fit this trope.
* ''[[The King of Fighters]] 94'' was a very good game, but [[The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard]] and the controls are tough to get used to, although the music is awesome. ''95'' has some improvements, but the AI is even worse. ''[[The King of Fighters]] 96'' is widely considered the point where everything really took off.
* ''[[The King of Fighters]] 94'' was a very good game, but [[The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard]] and the controls are tough to get used to, although the music is awesome. ''95'' has some improvements, but the AI is even worse. ''[[The King of Fighters]] 96'' is widely considered the point where everything really took off.
** ''KOF XIII'' made up for ''KOF XII'''s deficiencies in a major way, keeping the high-definition visuals and bringing back some of the fan-favorite characters that were left out of ''XII'', as well as a tutorial mode and a story mode that chronicles the final events of the Tales of Ash Saga.
** ''KOF XIII'' made up for ''KOF XII'''s deficiencies in a major way, keeping the high-definition visuals and bringing back some of the fan-favorite characters that were left out of ''XII'', as well as a tutorial mode and a story mode that chronicles the final events of the Tales of Ash Saga.
* ''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'' had a rather tedious and unimaginative storyline. Then came the ''Shadows of Undrentide'' expansion, which was markedly better, and finally ''Hordes of the Underdark'', which completely blew the previous two away.
* ''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'' had a rather tedious and unimaginative storyline. Then came the ''Shadows of Undrentide'' expansion, which was markedly better, and finally ''Hordes of the Underdark'', which completely blew the previous two away.
** ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]'' does it one better, with big improvements between the original game and the ''Mask of the Betrayer'' expansion. These include a greater emphasis on story, meaningful dialog, more unique and deeper party members (with the possibility to solo) and less focus on the engine's near unplayable combat.
** ''[[Neverwinter Nights 2]]'' does it one better, with big improvements between the original game and the ''Mask of the Betrayer'' expansion. These include a greater emphasis on story, meaningful dialog, more unique and deeper party members (with the possibility to solo) and less focus on the engine's near unplayable combat.
** Unfortunately, ''Neverwinter Nights 2'' hasn't been around long enough for the real gems to emerge from the modding community. ''Dark Waters'' (incidentally written by the same person who wrote the Shadowlords/Dreamcatcher/Demon arc for the first game) is pretty good, though, and its sea combat system was brilliantly scripted.
** Unfortunately, ''Neverwinter Nights 2'' hasn't been around long enough{{when}} for the real gems to emerge from the modding community. ''Dark Waters'' (incidentally written by the same person who wrote the Shadowlords/Dreamcatcher/Demon arc for the first game) is pretty good, though, and its sea combat system was brilliantly scripted.
* ''[[Free Space|Conflict Freespace: The Great War]]'' was a fun space combat simulation game with a nice game engine and a solid storyline, but it wasn't outstanding in any field. The sequel, ''Freespace 2'', was darker, with a far more gripping and surprising storyline, vastly-improved combat, visuals that still impress today and a jaw-dropping and somewhat ambiguous ending that has provoked debate ever since. {{spoiler|It is also notable for being one of the few games where the player's character actually dies at the end, although forewarned, it is possible to avoid this and get a slightly different final cut scene}}. ''Freespace 2'' was such an awesome space combat game it killed the genre stone dead by making every other game in the genre redundant, and the few games in the genre to have come along since have not been as impressive. Fans are divided on whether a third game would be a good idea or not.
* ''[[Free Space|Conflict Freespace: The Great War]]'' was a fun space combat simulation game with a nice game engine and a solid storyline, but it wasn't outstanding in any field. The sequel, ''Freespace 2'', was darker, with a far more gripping and surprising storyline, vastly-improved combat, visuals that still impress today and a jaw-dropping and somewhat ambiguous ending that has provoked debate ever since. {{spoiler|It is also notable for being one of the few games where the player's character actually dies at the end, although forewarned, it is possible to avoid this and get a slightly different final cut scene}}. ''Freespace 2'' was such an awesome space combat game it killed the genre stone dead by making every other game in the genre redundant, and the few games in the genre to have come along since have not been as impressive. Fans are divided on whether a third game would be a good idea or not.
** How good is ''[[Free Space|Freespace 2]]''? The fan community has released several professional-quality campaigns, long since taken over operating the multiplayer component, made several total conversions (the most well-known turns ''Freespace 2'' into ''Babylon 5'': The Videogame,) and to top if off, they've been ''upgrading the engine'' non-stop since the source-code was released. On a decent computer, the source-code project makes the game look like it came out two or three years ago, when, in fact, it's over a decade old.
** How good is ''[[Free Space|Freespace 2]]''? The fan community has released several professional-quality campaigns, long since taken over operating the multiplayer component, made several total conversions (the most well-known turns ''Freespace 2'' into ''Babylon 5'': The Videogame,) and to top if off, they've been ''upgrading the engine'' non-stop since the source-code was released. On a decent computer, the source-code project makes the game look like it came out two or three years ago, when, in fact, it's over a decade old.
* After ''Angel of Darkness'' and the last game or two before that (along with the [[Video Game Movies Suck|movies]]) many considered the ''[[Tomb Raider]]'' franchise beyond saving, but a change to another developer brought the series back again with ''Legend'' which went on to be the fastest selling (note, not highest selling) game in the series so far and got high critical acclaim. Depending on your feelings about many of the changes in ''Legend'' this can also extend to ''Anniversary'' and/or ''Underworld''.
* After ''Angel of Darkness'' and the last game or two before that (along with the [[Video Game Movies Suck|movies]]) many considered the ''[[Tomb Raider]]'' franchise beyond saving, but a change to another developer brought the series back again with ''Legend'' which went on to be the fastest selling (note, not highest selling) game in the series so far and got high critical acclaim. Depending on your feelings about many of the changes in ''Legend'' this can also extend to ''Anniversary'' and/or ''Underworld''.
* [[Zig Zagging Trope|A rollercoaster]] with ''[[Ace Combat]]''. The localization of ''Electrosphere'' had its [[Macekre|entire plot surgically removed]]. ''Shattered Skies'' fared better, and had a better plot to begin with, but its strength was in the delivery. ''The Unsung War'' brings everything together with sympathetic characters, a clever plot, and the astounding, epic presentation the series is known for, which it continued with for ''The Belkan War'', except bigger. ''Fires of Liberation'', however, goes a step back with a textbook, straightforward plot and a cast consisting of only supporting characters, none of whom get much individual screen time or, indeed, even matter until the very end.
* [[Zig-Zagging Trope|A rollercoaster]] with ''[[Ace Combat]]''. The localization of ''Electrosphere'' had its [[Macekre|entire plot surgically removed]]. ''Shattered Skies'' fared better, and had a better plot to begin with, but its strength was in the delivery. ''The Unsung War'' brings everything together with sympathetic characters, a clever plot, and the astounding, epic presentation the series is known for, which it continued with for ''The Belkan War'', except bigger. ''Fires of Liberation'', however, goes a step back with a textbook, straightforward plot and a cast consisting of only supporting characters, none of whom get much individual screen time or, indeed, even matter until the very end.
* The original ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' game on the Nintendo [[Game Boy]] was clunky, with minimal plot and a ''lot'' of [[Guide Dang It]] moments. Each game's taken steps since then, with its first sequel actually using the pilots and storylines from the series' in question, and producing Banpresto's first [[Original Generation]] batch, featuring Masaki Ando, Bian Zoldark, and Shu Shirakawa.
* The original ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' game on the Nintendo [[Game Boy]] was clunky, with minimal plot and a ''lot'' of [[Guide Dang It]] moments. Each game's taken steps since then, with its first sequel actually using the pilots and storylines from the series' in question, and producing Banpresto's first [[Original Generation]] batch, featuring Masaki Ando, Bian Zoldark, and Shu Shirakawa.
** Similarly, the first ''[[Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]'' was fairly clunky compared to the earlier SRW games on the [[Game Boy Advance]], with a pretty basic story and minimal animation and effects. It feels a lot like a side-project Banpresto wasn't ready to commit to (it was, after all, essentially a crossover ''without'' the crossing over). Compare to ''Original Generation 2'', which featured more plots and better animation and effects that nearly match the first ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Alpha]]'' game on the [[PS 1]].
** Similarly, the first ''[[Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]'' was fairly clunky compared to the earlier SRW games on the [[Game Boy Advance]], with a pretty basic story and minimal animation and effects. It feels a lot like a side-project Banpresto wasn't ready to commit to (it was, after all, essentially a crossover ''without'' the crossing over). Compare to ''Original Generation 2'', which featured more plots and better animation and effects that nearly match the first ''[[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Alpha]]'' game on the [[PS 1]].
* ''[[Saints Row]]'' was your stereotypical [[Wide Open Sandbox]], released to faint praise for having a solid, fun game, but still being a shameless GTA clone. Only one thing really changed between its release and its sequel - GTA decided it wanted to be taken seriously, and we got GTA 4. ''Saints Row 2'' went the other path - the main character became an over-the-top [[Heroic Comedic Sociopath]] and the game took [[Refuge in Audacity]]. Critics loved it, as did players.
* ''[[Saints Row]]'' was your stereotypical [[Wide Open Sandbox]], released to faint praise for having a solid, fun game, but still being a shameless ''GTA'' clone. Only one thing really changed between its release and its sequel - ''GTA'' decided it wanted to be taken seriously, and we got ''GTA 4''. ''Saints Row 2'' went the other path - the main character became an over-the-top [[Heroic Comedic Sociopath]] and the game took [[Refuge in Audacity]]. Critics loved it, as did players.
** Even [[Caustic Critic|Yaht]][[Zero Punctuation|zee]] loved the sequel. He even called his review of it an "overly long wedding proposal".
** Even [[Caustic Critic|Yaht]][[Zero Punctuation|zee]] loved the sequel. He even called his review of it an "overly long wedding proposal".
* The original ''[[Star Control]]'' was a 2D space combat sim with hardly any story elements (at least not [[All There in the Manual|in the game.]]). ''[[Star Control]] 2'' kept the good parts (the space combat, aka Super Melee) and added a surprisingly complex and fun story mode.
* The original ''[[Star Control]]'' was a 2D space combat sim with hardly any story elements (at least not [[All There in the Manual|in the game.]]). ''[[Star Control]] 2'' kept the good parts (the space combat, aka Super Melee) and added a surprisingly complex and fun story mode.
* Think about this one for a second: the original NES ''[[Bomberman (Video Game)|Bomberman]]'' didn't have ''multiplayer''. Considering the multiplayer is often considered the backbone of the franchise's popularity...
* Think about this one for a second: the original NES ''[[Bomberman]]'' didn't have ''multiplayer''. Considering the multiplayer is often considered the backbone of the franchise's popularity...
* ''50 Cent Bulletproof'' was trashed for all the bugs and bad gameplay (the PSP version was by a different developer and fared slightly better). ''[[Fifty Cent Blood On the Sand|50 Cent: Blood on the Sand]]'' is getting above average scores due to great control based on established conventions, and a story that's praised as hilariously [[So Bad It's Good]].
* ''50 Cent Bulletproof'' was trashed for all the bugs and bad gameplay (the PSP version was by a different developer and fared slightly better). ''[[50 Cent: Blood On The Sand|50 Cent: Blood on the Sand]]'' is getting above average scores due to great control based on established conventions, and a story that's praised as hilariously [[So Bad It's Good]].
* The original ''[[Killzone]]'' was a heavily hyped [[PS 2]] shooter that ended up falling quite short of expectations, though it wasn't bad at all, just mediocre. ''Killzone 2'', on the other hand, has been well received by both critics and gamers, and "lived up to the hype".
* The original ''[[Killzone]]'' was a heavily hyped [[PlayStation 2]] shooter that ended up falling quite short of expectations, though it wasn't bad at all, just mediocre. ''Killzone 2'', on the other hand, has been well received by both critics and gamers, and "lived up to the hype".
* The first two ''[[Wangan Midnight]]'' arcade games were basically just ''[[Tokyo Xtreme Racer]]'' with ''Wangan Midnight'' characters and stage-based gameplay, with few players remembering or thoroughly enjoying them. ''Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune'', on the other hand, gave ''[[Initial D Arcade Stage (Video Game)|Initial D Arcade Stage]]'' a run for its money.
* The first two ''[[Wangan Midnight]]'' arcade games were basically just ''[[Tokyo Xtreme Racer]]'' with ''Wangan Midnight'' characters and stage-based gameplay, with few players remembering or thoroughly enjoying them. ''Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune'', on the other hand, gave ''[[Initial D Arcade Stage]]'' a run for its money.
** For that matter, the first ''[[Initial D Arcade Stage (Video Game)|Initial D Arcade Stage]]'' had a poorly done multiplayer mode which, among other problems, required the second player to insert his/her coin(s) within 9 seconds of the first player, and had no incentive whatsoever to play a head-to-head battle over just playing Time Attack mode. ''Initial D Arcade Stage Ver.2'' significantly improved the multiplayer mode.
** For that matter, the first ''[[Initial D Arcade Stage]]'' had a poorly done multiplayer mode which, among other problems, required the second player to insert his/her coin(s) within 9 seconds of the first player, and had no incentive whatsoever to play a head-to-head battle over just playing Time Attack mode. ''Initial D Arcade Stage Ver.2'' significantly improved the multiplayer mode.
* If we were to follow the oddball retconning of ''Scramble'' into the ''[[Gradius]]'' series, that would count.
* If we were to follow the oddball retconning of ''Scramble'' into the ''[[Gradius]]'' series, that would count.
* The original ''[[MOTHER]]'', despite its interesting story and quirky take on the RPG genre, was a [[Forced Level Grinding|total grindfest]] with some insane [[Schizophrenic Difficulty|spikes in difficulty]] at times. (Mt. Itoi, anyone?) The second game, ''[[Earthbound]]'', fixed many of the problems the original had, such as removing the random encounters, easing difficulty, and taking itself much less seriously. It was by no means a bad game, but it had many flaws, like its blatant overuse of event flags (often requiring you to talk to a completely random character or do something unintuitive to get the plot moving), dreadful story pacing, and main characters who were flat as a pancake. In a rare instance of a Surprisingly Improved ''Third Installment'', ''[[Mother 3 (Video Game)|Mother 3]]'' ironed out most of the problems of its predecessors. It balanced the difficulty, paced its story nicely, gave its characters fleshed-out personalities, and even brought out the dark edge the story really needed.
* The original ''[[MOTHER]]'', despite its interesting story and quirky take on the RPG genre, was a [[Forced Level Grinding|total grindfest]] with some insane [[Schizophrenic Difficulty|spikes in difficulty]] at times. (Mt. Itoi, anyone?) The second game, ''[[EarthBound]]'', fixed many of the problems the original had, such as removing the random encounters, easing difficulty, and taking itself much less seriously. It was by no means a bad game, but it had many flaws, like its blatant overuse of event flags (often requiring you to talk to a completely random character or do something unintuitive to get the plot moving), dreadful story pacing, and main characters who were flat as a pancake. In a rare instance of a Surprisingly Improved ''Third Installment'', ''[[Mother 3]]'' ironed out most of the problems of its predecessors. It balanced the difficulty, paced its story nicely, gave its characters fleshed-out personalities, and even brought out the dark edge the story really needed.
* The first ''[[Age of Empires I (Video Game)|Age of Empires I]]'' game was released to lukewarm reviews. All the following games and spinoffs received critical acclaim.
* The first ''[[Age of Empires (video game)|Age of Empires I]]'' game was released to lukewarm reviews. All the following games and spin-offs received critical acclaim.
* By many accounts, the second ''[[Dark Cloud (Video Game)|Dark Cloud]]'' (''[[Dark Chronicle (Video Game)|Dark Chronicle]]'' overseas) is an immense improvement over the original. One area is the fact that the weapon system was fixed. In both games, [[Breakable Weapons|weapons break if you use them too much without repairing them]]. In the second game you could fix broken weapons, but in the first they'd be gone forever. Several other things were fixed as well.
* By many accounts, the second ''[[Dark Cloud]]'' (''[[Dark Cloud|Dark Chronicle]]'' overseas) is an immense improvement over the original. One area is the fact that the weapon system was fixed. In both games, [[Breakable Weapons|weapons break if you use them too much without repairing them]]. In the second game you could fix broken weapons, but in the first they'd be gone forever. Several other things were fixed as well.
* ''[[Sonic Storybook Series|Sonic and the Secret Rings]]'' and ''[[Sonic Unleashed (Video Game)|Sonic Unleashed]]''. While people disagree about whether they are ''[[Sonic Adventure 2 (Video Game)|Adventure 2]]'' or ''[[Sonic Heroes (Video Game)|Heroes]]'' quality (former being "better"), they generally agree that they surpass ''[[Shadow the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (Video Game)|Sonic '06]]''.
* ''[[Sonic Storybook Series|Sonic and the Secret Rings]]'' and ''[[Sonic Unleashed]]''. While people disagree about whether they are ''[[Sonic Adventure 2|Adventure 2]]'' or ''[[Sonic Heroes|Heroes]]'' quality (former being "better"), they generally agree that they surpass ''[[Shadow the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)|Sonic '06]]''.
** And then there's ''[[Sonic Colors (Video Game)|Sonic Colors]]'': the game managed to get all the way through its development cycle to its release without ([[Fan Dumb|most]]) people in the [[Unpleasable Fanbase]] raising a huge stink and calling [[Memetic Mutation|"SONIC CYCLE!"]] Unlike the previous games which included [[Scrappy Mechanic|Scrappy Mechanics]] (like [[No Sidepaths No Exploration No Freedom|automatically running forward]] or [[Unexpected Gameplay Change|the Werehog]]), no one is finding too much to complain about with ''Colors'', and generally agree that [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|it's finally broken Sonic through the]] [[Polygon Ceiling]]!
** And then there's ''[[Sonic Colors]]'': the game managed to get all the way through its development cycle to its release without ([[Fan Dumb|most]]) people in the [[Unpleasable Fanbase]] raising a huge stink and calling [[Memetic Mutation|"SONIC CYCLE!"]] Unlike the previous games which included [[Scrappy Mechanic]]s (like [[No Sidepaths, No Exploration, No Freedom|automatically running forward]] or [[Unexpected Gameplay Change|the Werehog]]), no one is finding too much to complain about with ''Colors'', and generally agree that [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|it's finally broken Sonic through the]] [[Polygon Ceiling]]!
** ''[[Sonic Generations (Video Game)|Sonic Generations]]'', being basically a love letter to the best levels of Sonic games past, is also excellent fun.
** ''[[Sonic Generations]]'', being basically a love letter to the best levels of Sonic games past, is also excellent fun.
* The first ''[[Fable]]'' game had an infamous amount of hype during development. When it was finally released in 2004, it received mostly positive reviews, but it ultimately failed to live up to it's hype, as others were disappointed by the lack of many promised features, a somewhat small, restrictive game world and other flaws. Along comes ''Fable II'' in 2008, with more refined gameplay, a larger, more detailed world with more quests, and deeper sandbox gameplay that implemented many promised features from ''Fable''. It received better reviews from all.
* The first ''[[Fable]]'' game had an infamous amount of hype during development. When it was finally released in 2004, it received mostly positive reviews, but it ultimately failed to live up to it's hype, as others were disappointed by the lack of many promised features, a somewhat small, restrictive game world and other flaws. Along comes ''Fable II'' in 2008, with more refined gameplay, a larger, more detailed world with more quests, and deeper sandbox gameplay that implemented many promised features from ''Fable''. It received better reviews from all.
* The first ''[[The Elder Scrolls (Video Game)|ElderScrolls]]'' game, ''[[The Elder Scrolls Arena (Video Game)|Arena]]'', wasn't bad for its time, featuring things like day/night cycles, seasons (with changing weather), holidays, and an advanced lighting engine, but despite having a rather large world, there wasn't anything particularly interesting to see or do, with a fairly generic setting and a clichéd plot (evil chancellor usurps emperor, have to collect 8 magic staff pieces to beat him). Then along came [[The Elder Scrolls II Daggerfall (Video Game)|Daggerfall]], which expanded the world (both in size and in richness) by several orders of magnitude, and added tons of things to do (dozens of factions to join! Vampirism! Lycanthropy! [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Real estate!]]), one of the most detailed character creators seen in a CRPG, and a well-written plot with twists and political intrigue galore (as well as [[Obvious Beta|bugs and glitches galore]]).
* The first ''[[The Elder Scrolls|Elder Scrolls]]'' game, ''[[The Elder Scrolls: Arena|Arena]]'', wasn't bad for its time, featuring things like day/night cycles, seasons (with changing weather), holidays, and an advanced lighting engine, but despite having a rather large world, there wasn't anything particularly interesting to see or do, with a fairly generic setting and a clichéd plot (evil chancellor usurps emperor, have to collect 8 magic staff pieces to beat him). Then along came [[The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall|Daggerfall]], which expanded the world (both in size and in richness) by several orders of magnitude, and added tons of things to do (dozens of factions to join! Vampirism! Lycanthropy! [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Real estate!]]), one of the most detailed character creators seen in a CRPG, and a well-written plot with twists and political intrigue galore (as well as [[Obvious Beta|bugs and glitches galore]]).
* ''[[Harvest Moon Frantic Farming]]'' is a Surprisingly Improved Sequel to the confusing and disappointing earlier ''[[Harvest Moon]]'' [[Puzzle Game]], ''Puzzle de Harvest Moon''.
* ''[[Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming]]'' is a Surprisingly Improved Sequel to the confusing and disappointing earlier ''[[Harvest Moon]]'' [[Puzzle Game]], ''Puzzle de Harvest Moon''.
* ''[[Backyard Sports|Backyard Basketball]]'' on the [[PS 2]] improved on everything ''Backyard Basketball'' on the PC, released two years earlier, had. There were no glitches, the game never freezes, there are NBA teams, and there are 9 more playable characters (while removing 1). There are even unlockable powerups!
* ''[[Backyard Sports|Backyard Basketball]]'' on the [[PlayStation 2]] improved on everything ''Backyard Basketball'' on the PC, released two years earlier, had. There were no glitches, the game never freezes, there are NBA teams, and there are 9 more playable characters (while removing 1). There are even unlockable powerups!
* ''[[Contra]] 4'' came after four consecutive installments that sat poorly with fans of the series (two lame PS1 releases and two so-so PS2 releases) and whipped the series back into what it should be.
* ''[[Contra]] 4'' came after four consecutive installments that sat poorly with fans of the series (two lame PS1 releases and two so-so PS2 releases) and whipped the series back into what it should be.
* ''[[Mega Man X]]'' had a nearly universally despised seventh game (an unusual instance in the extremely [[Broken Base|divided fanbase]] that ''Mega Man'' has); but the eighth game is considered a vast improvement.
* ''[[Mega Man X]]'' had a nearly universally despised seventh game (an unusual instance in the extremely [[Broken Base|divided fanbase]] that ''Mega Man'' has); but the eighth game is considered a vast improvement.
** ''[[Mega Man Star Force]]'s'' second game was hard to take even for the people who liked the first one, but the third game made up for it in incredibly unexpected ways, to a degree that some consider it the best in the entirety of the ''Battle Network/Star Force'' continuity.
** ''[[Mega Man Star Force]]'s'' second game was hard to take even for the people who liked the first one, but the third game made up for it in incredibly unexpected ways, to a degree that some consider it the best in the entirety of the ''Battle Network/Star Force'' continuity.
** The ''[[Mega Man (Video Game)|original]]'' is regarded as good, but noticeably flawed, and had relatively low sales for a Mega Man game. Then came ''[[Mega Man 2 (Video Game)|Mega Man 2]]'' and the series was quickly established as one of Capcom's mainstays.
** The ''[[Mega Man (video game)|original]]'' is regarded as good, but noticeably flawed, and had relatively low sales for a Mega Man game. Then came ''[[Mega Man 2]]'' and the series was quickly established as one of Capcom's mainstays.
* ''[[Dragonball Z]]: The Legacy of Goku'' for the [[Game Boy Advance]] was, for lack of a more inventive word, terrible. The combat controls are stiff, the plot is [[Continuity Lock Out|impenetrable to all but the most seasoned DBZ fans]], and the game is way too short (beatable in about 6-8 hours, ending after Goku's battle with Frieza). Its sequel, ''Legacy of Goku II'', corrected almost all of these flaws, as well as giving the player the ability to control characters other than Goku.
* ''[[Dragonball Z]]: The Legacy of Goku'' for the [[Game Boy Advance]] was, for lack of a more inventive word, terrible. The combat controls are stiff, the plot is [[Continuity Lock Out|impenetrable to all but the most seasoned DBZ fans]], and the game is way too short (beatable in about 6–8 hours, ending after Goku's battle with Frieza). Its sequel, ''Legacy of Goku II'', corrected almost all of these flaws, as well as giving the player the ability to control characters other than Goku.
** And then, the relatively few flaws and lack of depth found in ''Legacy of Goku II'' were completely gone in ''Buu's Fury''.
** And then, the relatively few flaws and lack of depth found in ''Legacy of Goku II'' were completely gone in ''Buu's Fury''.
* ''Astonishia Story'' was an RPG originally made for PCs in the mid-1990s and remained exclusively a Korean property until 2006, when the game was remade for the PSP and distributed worldwide. The port hadn't aged well at all, and the lackluster localization effort by [[Ubisoft]] didn't help. Three years later, ''Astonishia Story 2'' (titled ''[[Crimson Gem Saga]]'' in non-Asian countries) was released to a much warmer reception, with tighter character development, a retooled battle and skill system that emphasizes [[Combination Attack|combination attacks]], much less [[Forced Level Grinding]], and a better translation by the team at [[Atlus]].
* ''Astonishia Story'' was an RPG originally made for PCs in the mid-1990s and remained exclusively a Korean property until 2006, when the game was remade for the PSP and distributed worldwide. The port hadn't aged well at all, and the lackluster localization effort by [[Ubisoft]] didn't help. Three years later, ''Astonishia Story 2'' (titled ''[[Crimson Gem Saga]]'' in non-Asian countries) was released to a much warmer reception, with tighter character development, a retooled battle and skill system that emphasizes [[Combination Attack|combination attacks]], much less [[Forced Level Grinding]], and a better translation by the team at [[Atlus]].
* ''[[Luminous Arc]]'' for the DS was an [[Cliché Storm]] of an SRPG with a particularly [[Narm|Narmish]] voice acting in ''every. Single. Chapter''. The next game, ''[[Luminous Arc 2]]'' moves the story to another world with a better plot, vastly improved voice acting and a more streamlined user interface. The fact that they added a fast forward button, as well as bringing in [[Multiple Endings]] (which are ''further'' expanded in ''[[Luminous Arc 3]]'') helps a lot.
* ''[[Luminous Arc]]'' for the DS was an [[Cliché Storm]] of an SRPG with a particularly [[Narm]]ish voice acting in ''every. Single. Chapter''. The next game, ''[[Luminous Arc 2]]'' moves the story to another world with a better plot, vastly improved voice acting and a more streamlined user interface. The fact that they added a fast forward button, as well as bringing in [[Multiple Endings]] (which are ''further'' expanded in ''[[Luminous Arc 3]]'') helps a lot.
* ''[[Thunder Force]] III'' was a huge improvement over its rather average predecessor ''[[Thunder Force]] II'', they got rid of the annoying overhead scrolling stages, improved the graphics and [[Awesome Music|music]], and made the gameplay a lot better. ''[[Thunder Force]] IV'' and ''[[Thunder Force]] V'' continued on the tradition of awesomeness and were pretty much the peak of the franchise. Unfortunately, [[Sequelitis]] took effect after that.
* ''[[Thunder Force]] III'' was a huge improvement over its rather average predecessor ''[[Thunder Force]] II'', they got rid of the annoying overhead scrolling stages, improved the graphics and [[Awesome Music|music]], and made the gameplay a lot better. ''[[Thunder Force]] IV'' and ''[[Thunder Force]] V'' continued on the tradition of awesomeness and were pretty much the peak of the franchise. Unfortunately, [[Sequelitis]] took effect after that.
* ''[[Assassin's Creed I (Video Game)|Assassin's Creed I]]'' had really good [[Le Parkour]] gameplay and the beginnings of an interesting [[Ancient Conspiracy]] story, but was burdened with boring characters and levels, padding, and repetitive side quests and assassinations. ''[[Assassin's Creed II (Video Game)|Assassin's Creed II]]'' had a likable main character, levels that were memorable, and missions that were actually fun.
* ''[[Assassin's Creed (video game)|Assassin's Creed I]]'' had really good [[Le Parkour]] gameplay and the beginnings of an interesting [[Ancient Conspiracy]] story, but was burdened with boring characters and levels, padding, and repetitive side quests and assassinations. ''[[Assassin's Creed II]]'' had a likable main character, levels that were memorable, and missions that were actually fun.
** The one thing most people hated was the ''actual'' player character, the clueless whiner from the future descended from the actual assassins in both games.
** The one thing most people hated was the ''actual'' player character, the clueless whiner from the future descended from the actual assassins in both games.
*** Thankfully, considering Desmond {{spoiler|has learned Ezio's Le Parkour skills and gained Altair's Eagle Vision through the bleeding effect}}, all signs point to the idea that Desmond will have [[Took a Level In Badass]] in the third game.
*** Thankfully, considering Desmond {{spoiler|has learned Ezio's Le Parkour skills and gained Altair's Eagle Vision through the bleeding effect}}, all signs point to the idea that Desmond will have [[Took a Level in Badass]] in the third game.
* Compare ''[[Fire Emblem]]: [[Fire Emblem Akaneia|Mystery of the Emblem]]'' to the original ''Dark Dragon''. While the latter was a good game that helped [[Trope Codifier|establish]] an entire [[Turn Based Strategy|genre]] it was plagued with a terrible inventory system, staves didn't give EXP, and the graphics and story were rather bland. Then the former comes and fixes most of the gameplay flaws as well as much needed character and story development and wraps it up with a more streamlined version of ''Dark Dragon''.
* Compare ''[[Fire Emblem]]: [[Fire Emblem Akaneia|Mystery of the Emblem]]'' to the original ''Dark Dragon''. While the latter was a good game that helped [[Trope Codifier|establish]] an entire [[Turn-Based Strategy|genre]] it was plagued with a terrible inventory system, staves didn't give EXP, and the graphics and story were rather bland. Then the former comes and fixes most of the gameplay flaws as well as much needed character and story development and wraps it up with a more streamlined version of ''Dark Dragon''.
* ''[[Red Steel (Video Game)|Red Steel]]'' was an ambitious shooter / swordplay launch title for the [[Wii]] marred by bad swordplay controls and an overall rushed presentation. With the implementation of the Wii MotionPlus allowing for more precise controls, ''[[Red Steel 2 (Video Game)|Red Steel 2]]'' is being hailed as what its predecessor should have been and even being regarded as one of the best-looking Wii games.
* ''[[Red Steel]]'' was an ambitious shooter/swordplay launch title for the [[Wii]] marred by bad swordplay controls and an overall rushed presentation. With the implementation of the Wii MotionPlus allowing for more precise controls, ''[[Red Steel 2]]'' is being hailed as what its predecessor should have been and even being regarded as one of the best-looking Wii games.
* ''[[Dune II]]''. The original was a boring adventure game. The "sequel" (which had really nothing to do with the original) was one of the most important games of all time and the progenitor of the [[Real Time Strategy]] game.
* ''[[Dune II]]''. The original was a boring adventure game. The "sequel" (which had really nothing to do with the original) was one of the most important games of all time and the progenitor of the [[Real Time Strategy]] game.
* ''[[Just Cause (Video Game)|Just Cause]]'' was a [[Wide Open Sandbox]] game with a few nice ideas (like giving you a parachute you can use at almost any time) and some beautiful vistas, but had clumsy controls, kind of boring characters and was definitely not something you'd want to pay full price for. ''Just Cause 2'', however, vastly improves your ability to use the grappling hook in conjunction with the parachute, all but allowing you to ''fly'' around the landscape, and has tons of things for you to blow up whenever you want, making it a solid A-list title. It's worth noting that the first ''Just Cause'' was Avalanche Studios' first ever release, and they obviously spent a lot of time learning from their mistakes for the sequel.
* ''[[Just Cause (video game)|Just Cause]]'' was a [[Wide Open Sandbox]] game with a few nice ideas (like giving you a parachute you can use at almost any time) and some beautiful vistas, but had clumsy controls, kind of boring characters and was definitely not something you'd want to pay full price for. ''Just Cause 2'', however, vastly improves your ability to use the grappling hook in conjunction with the parachute, all but allowing you to ''fly'' around the landscape, and has tons of things for you to blow up whenever you want, making it a solid A-list title. It's worth noting that the first ''Just Cause'' was Avalanche Studios' first ever release, and they obviously spent a lot of time learning from their mistakes for the sequel.
* In America, the early parts of the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series were a minor success, held back on the NES by its [[Blind Idiot Translation|extremely questionable translation]], bugs, and frustrating puzzles. It wasn't until ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'', with its improved localization, that the series took off in the US.
* In America, the early parts of the ''[[Metal Gear]]'' series were a minor success, held back on the NES by its [[Blind Idiot Translation|extremely questionable translation]], bugs, and frustrating puzzles. It wasn't until ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'', with its improved localization, that the series took off in the US.
* ''[[Soldner X|Söldner-X]]: Himmelssturmer'' was a serviceable [[Shoot Em Ups|side-scrolling shoot-em-up]] with excellent visuals, but was mainly held back by its sluggishness and brevity. Its sequel, ''Söldner-X 2: Final Prototype'' improves on both of these aspects while adding more playable ships and weapons, a revamped power-up and combo system (no more [[Poison Mushroom|power-down items]]), and assorted challenges and an expansion pack to keep the game fresh even after completion.
* ''[[Söldner-X]]: Himmelssturmer'' was a serviceable [[Shoot'Em Up|side-scrolling shoot-em-up]] with excellent visuals, but was mainly held back by its sluggishness and brevity. Its sequel, ''Söldner-X 2: Final Prototype'' improves on both of these aspects while adding more playable ships and weapons, a revamped power-up and combo system (no more [[Poison Mushroom|power-down items]]), and assorted challenges and an expansion pack to keep the game fresh even after completion.
* ''[[Touhou]]'': In-between the standard danmaku games, which have been slowly improving, ZUN has done a bit of experimenting. The concepts he reuses tend to be much better the second time around:
* ''[[Touhou]]'': In-between the standard danmaku games, which have been slowly improving, ZUN has done a bit of experimenting. The concepts he reuses tend to be much better the second time around:
** ''Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream'' is, bluntly, terrible, suffering from cheating AI, little plot, ugly graphics, and boring battles. ''Phantasmagoria of Flower View'' still isn't great, but is at least reasonably passable. The AI cheats less blatantly, a fairly interesting story, it's fairly pretty, and you're actually dodging your opponent's patterns instead of stage enemies.
** ''Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream'' is, bluntly, terrible, suffering from cheating AI, little plot, ugly graphics, and boring battles. ''Phantasmagoria of Flower View'' still isn't great, but is at least reasonably passable. The AI cheats less blatantly, a fairly interesting story, it's fairly pretty, and you're actually dodging your opponent's patterns instead of stage enemies.
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* ''[[Dementium the Ward]]'', although enjoyable, had a number of flaws. The most known one being that when you die, you go ALL the way back to the beginning of the chapter. ''Dementium II'' had numerous improvements, like an omnipresent minimap, the ability to crouch and jump, the ability to save up health-restoring items, more fluid controls and more balanced and varied levels.
* ''[[Dementium the Ward]]'', although enjoyable, had a number of flaws. The most known one being that when you die, you go ALL the way back to the beginning of the chapter. ''Dementium II'' had numerous improvements, like an omnipresent minimap, the ability to crouch and jump, the ability to save up health-restoring items, more fluid controls and more balanced and varied levels.
* The original ''[[Shining Force]]'', while still a fun Strategy RPG, was riddled with [[Good Bad Bugs|exploitable]] [[Artificial Stupidity|bugs]] and [[Fake Balance|poor class balance]], while having too gradual a difficulty curve. Later entries have not only fixed these problems, but also introduced new concepts, such as [[Summon Magic|summoning]] and weapon skill levels, to add to the variety of the gameplay.
* The original ''[[Shining Force]]'', while still a fun Strategy RPG, was riddled with [[Good Bad Bugs|exploitable]] [[Artificial Stupidity|bugs]] and [[Fake Balance|poor class balance]], while having too gradual a difficulty curve. Later entries have not only fixed these problems, but also introduced new concepts, such as [[Summon Magic|summoning]] and weapon skill levels, to add to the variety of the gameplay.
** Note that ''[[Shining Force]]'' itself [[Sequel Displacement|was a sequel to]] the [[Dungeon Crawl|Dungeon Crawling]] game ''[[Shining in The Darkness]]''.
** Note that ''[[Shining Force]]'' itself [[Sequel Displacement|was a sequel to]] the [[Dungeon Crawl]]ing game ''[[Shining in the Darkness]]''.
* The original ''[[Sacred]]'', while a decent hack n slash ARPG in its own right, was brought down by [[Obvious Beta|loads of glitches and bugs]], simplistic gameplay, and some amount of [[Fake Difficulty]]. ''Sacred 2'', however, had much fewer bugs and glitches (though it still has a few), improved gameplay mechanics, and was generally much more polished and inviting. Oh, and the fan community it formed is one of the best around, giving rise to the somewhat famous ''Sacred 2 Community Patch''. And now that the series license has been picked up by Deep Silver after Ascaron's sudden bankruptcy, things are continuing to look up for the franchise.
* The original ''[[Sacred]]'', while a decent hack n slash ARPG in its own right, was brought down by [[Obvious Beta|loads of glitches and bugs]], simplistic gameplay, and some amount of [[Fake Difficulty]]. ''Sacred 2'', however, had much fewer bugs and glitches (though it still has a few), improved gameplay mechanics, and was generally much more polished and inviting. Oh, and the fan community it formed is one of the best around, giving rise to the somewhat famous ''Sacred 2 Community Patch''. And now that the series license has been picked up by Deep Silver after Ascaron's sudden bankruptcy, things are continuing to look up for the franchise.
* ''[[LEGO Island]] 2'' is mostly a [[Contested Sequel]], but the most common opinion on it is that it was killed by [[Loads and Loads of Loading|long load times,]] dull and lifeless voice acting, poor animation, glitchy physics, low replay value, and [[Guide Dang It|poorly explained]] minigames. ''Lego Island Xtreme Stunts'' on the other hand fixes nearly all of these problems, mostly by adding far more replay value, shortening the load times, explaining the minigames better, and having far less glitches.
* ''[[Lego Island]] 2'' is mostly a [[Contested Sequel]], but the most common opinion on it is that it was killed by [[Loads and Loads of Loading|long load times,]] dull and lifeless voice acting, poor animation, glitchy physics, low replay value, and [[Guide Dang It|poorly explained]] minigames. ''Lego Island Xtreme Stunts'' on the other hand fixes nearly all of these problems, mostly by adding far more replay value, shortening the load times, explaining the minigames better, and having far less glitches.
* ''[[Castlevania]]'' had this too in its [[Game Boy]] trilogy. ''The Adventure'' had unresponsive controls, [[Fake Difficulty]] in losing whip power after only ''one'' hit and extremely slow gameplay. Sub-weapons and such were absent, and hearts, normally used for subweapon power, restored energy. ''Belmont's Revenge'' rectified this in many ways, with only losing whip power if you die or get hit by the snake tower's fireballs. Christopher Belmont still moves slowly, but nowhere near as slow as his first adventure. The much more responsive controls, a non-linear level select format, like in ''[[Mega Man (Video Game)|Mega Man]]'', even better music and a password system were welcome additions. The sub-weapon system reappeared, albeit it's only limited to the Cross (or Axe) and the Holy Water, depending on which version you have in the game (Japanese version had the Cross, International versions had the Axe).
* ''[[Castlevania]]'' had this too in its [[Game Boy]] trilogy. ''The Adventure'' had unresponsive controls, [[Fake Difficulty]] in losing whip power after only ''one'' hit and extremely slow gameplay. Sub-weapons and such were absent, and hearts, normally used for subweapon power, restored energy. ''Belmont's Revenge'' rectified this in many ways, with only losing whip power if you die or get hit by the snake tower's fireballs. Christopher Belmont still moves slowly, but nowhere near as slow as his first adventure. The much more responsive controls, a non-linear level select format, like in ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'', even better music and a password system were welcome additions. The sub-weapon system reappeared, albeit it's only limited to the Cross (or Axe) and the Holy Water, depending on which version you have in the game (Japanese version had the Cross, International versions had the Axe).
* ''[[Deus Ex (Video Game)|Deus Ex]]'' fans, following the [[Contested Sequel|lukewarm reception]] to ''[[Deus Ex Invisible War (Video Game)|Deus Ex Invisible War]]'', were rightfully skeptical that ''[[Deus Ex Human Revolution (Video Game)|Human Revolution]]'' could live up to the original, with the long time frame and the closure of Ion Storm with a new development team taking over. It's an almost unanimous opinion that the original game will never be matched, but many agree that ''Human Revolution'' is the worthy followup that ''Invisible War'' wasn't.
* ''[[Deus Ex]]'' fans, following the [[Contested Sequel|lukewarm reception]] to ''[[Deus Ex: Invisible War]]'', were rightfully skeptical that ''[[Deus Ex: Human Revolution|Human Revolution]]'' could live up to the original, with the long time frame and the closure of Ion Storm with a new development team taking over. It's an almost unanimous opinion that the original game will never be matched, but many agree that ''Human Revolution'' is the worthy followup that ''Invisible War'' wasn't.
* The original ''[[Fallout]]'' was a solid, if slightly glitchy RPG whose primary claim to fame was being violent enough that Steve Jackson withdrew the GURPS license during development. ''Fallout 2'' is a classic, and defined the open world, dark humor, pervasive bugs, and surreal special encounters that would become hallmarks of the sequel.
* The original ''[[Fallout]]'' was a solid, if slightly glitchy RPG whose primary claim to fame was being violent enough that Steve Jackson withdrew the GURPS license during development. ''[[Fallout 2]]'' is a classic, and defined the open world, dark humor, pervasive bugs, and surreal special encounters that would become hallmarks of the sequel.
** In a similar vein, ''Fallout3'' was a good game, with a visually impressive world, but suffered due to flat characters, lack of meaningful interaction, almost pointless social skills, and deviating from the source material quite a bit. ''[[Fallout New Vegas]]'', with the reins handed back to the original team, was more linear, but much more widely praised for retaining the feel of a ''Fallout 1'' and ''Fallout 2'', while adding interesting new mechanics to the ''Fallout 3'' experience and making characters and interactions much more vibrant and rewarding while making a social character more viable.
** In a similar vein, ''[[Fallout 3]]'' was a good game, with a visually impressive world, but suffered due to flat characters, lack of meaningful interaction, almost pointless social skills, and deviating from the source material quite a bit. ''[[Fallout: New Vegas]]'', with the reins handed back to the original team, was more linear, but much more widely praised for retaining the feel of a ''Fallout 1'' and ''Fallout 2'', while adding interesting new mechanics to the ''Fallout 3'' experience and making characters and interactions much more vibrant and rewarding while making a social character more viable.
* Also from Black Isle, ''Baldur's Gate 2'' took an already decent D&D experience and improved on everything, particularly the story, which was further improved and given a proper conclusion with its expansion, ''Throne of Bhaal''.
* Also from Black Isle, ''[[Baldur's Gate|Baldur's Gate 2]]'' took an already decent D&D experience and improved on everything, particularly the story, which was further improved and given a proper conclusion with its expansion, ''Throne of Bhaal''.
* ''Outpost'' was a turn-based colony management game that was well hyped before its release, but it turned out to just be [[Recycled in Space|Simcity IN SPACE!]] Not only that, it had several bugs, and was basically unfinished. ''[[Outpost Two|Outpost 2]]'' on the other hand, took some of the key plot elements from the first, and made it into an enjoyably complex real time strategy game with a heavy focus on colony management. The story (which ignored the first in almost every conceivable fashion) was very detailed and interesting, becoming a tale told from the point of view of two factions, both trying to survive and avoid extinction. The inclusion of the story in the form of a novella, along with all the well-researched science (the game leans heavily towards hard science fiction), makes the game more enjoyable than one would expect from its predecessor.
* ''Outpost'' was a turn-based colony management game that was well hyped before its release, but it turned out to just be [[Recycled in Space|Simcity IN SPACE!]] Not only that, it had several bugs, and was basically unfinished. ''[[Outpost 2]]'' on the other hand, took some of the key plot elements from the first, and made it into an enjoyably complex real time strategy game with a heavy focus on colony management. The story (which ignored the first in almost every conceivable fashion) was very detailed and interesting, becoming a tale told from the point of view of two factions, both trying to survive and avoid extinction. The inclusion of the story in the form of a novella, along with all the well-researched science (the game leans heavily towards hard science fiction), makes the game more enjoyable than one would expect from its predecessor.
* The first ''[[Arcthe Lad]]'' is a fairly average SRPG: the battle system is fast-paced but flawed, while its characters are likeable but severely underdeveloped; and to top it off, the game is criminally short. The sequel, on the other hand, has a much more detailed (and [[Darker and Edgier|darker]]) plot, more characters with more interplay amongst themselves, a relatively revised battle system and a longer campaign. To this day, ''[[Arcthe Lad]] II'' is considered to be the apex of the series, and all games that came after are generally agreed to have failed to live up to it. As for the first, fans usually recommend it on the grounds of "well, it's the first in the series... also, it's a prequel to the second one".
* The first ''[[Arc the Lad]]'' is a fairly average SRPG: the battle system is fast-paced but flawed, while its characters are likable but severely underdeveloped; and to top it off, the game is criminally short. The sequel, on the other hand, has a much more detailed (and [[Darker and Edgier|darker]]) plot, more characters with more interplay among themselves, a relatively revised battle system and a longer campaign. To this day, ''[[Arc the Lad]] II'' is considered to be the apex of the series, and all games that came after are generally agreed to have failed to live up to it. As for the first, fans usually recommend it on the grounds of "well, it's the first in the series... also, it's a prequel to the second one".
* The original ''[[War Craft]]'' was an unimaginative [[Real Time Strategy]] with two cosmetically-different sides and little backstory. This is justified because the people at Blizzard had a contract with [[Games Workshop]] on making a ''[[Warhammer Fantasy]]'' game. When the contract fell through, they decided to release the game anyway under a slightly-different name (that's why ''Warcraft'' has green orcs). Then came ''Warcraft II'', still with very similar sides (except for mage spells and archer enhancements) but a fairly well-developed backstory. Along with ''[[Dune]] II'', ''Warcraft II'' is considered to be one of the progenitors of the [[Real Time Strategy]] genre. ''Warcraft III'' has 4 ''very'' different sides and an even richer backstory, the success of which prompted Blizzard to make [[World of Warcraft|the most successful MMORPG in history]].
* The original ''[[Warcraft]]'' was an unimaginative [[Real Time Strategy]] with two cosmetically-different sides and little backstory. This is justified because the people at Blizzard had a contract with [[Games Workshop]] on making a ''[[Warhammer Fantasy]]'' game. When the contract fell through, they decided to release the game anyway under a slightly-different name (that's why ''Warcraft'' has green orcs). Then came ''Warcraft II'', still with very similar sides (except for mage spells and archer enhancements) but a fairly well-developed backstory. Along with ''[[Dune]] II'', ''Warcraft II'' is considered to be one of the progenitors of the [[Real Time Strategy]] genre. ''Warcraft III'' has 4 ''very'' different sides and an even richer backstory, the success of which prompted Blizzard to make [[World of Warcraft|the most successful MMORPG in history]].
* ''[[Mario Party]] 9'' is this among many people. The series had a total off 10 parties before the 9th installment (8 of them going from the N64, to Gamecube, and the Wii while the other two were on the GBA and DS) and the most common complaint where how the games were more about luck than skill and how each game was just a rehash from the last game. The 9th installment changes up a ton of things to make the games a bit more fair by greatly reducing the amount of luck based events, scrapping the coins, stars, and items system for a mini-star system that allows players to collect them very frequently or lose them just as fast so games are more close, and the mechanic of all players moving on the board at once creates new strategies in turn order and what types of dice blocks you should use. Of course, people who grew up with the series [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|may not like the new direction of the 9th party]].
* ''[[Mario Party]] 9'' is this among many people. The series had a total off 10 parties before the 9th installment (8 of them going from the N64, to Gamecube, and the Wii while the other two were on the GBA and DS) and the most common complaint where how the games were more about luck than skill and how each game was just a rehash from the last game. The 9th installment changes up a ton of things to make the games a bit more fair by greatly reducing the amount of luck based events, scrapping the coins, stars, and items system for a mini-star system that allows players to collect them very frequently or lose them just as fast so games are more close, and the mechanic of all players moving on the board at once creates new strategies in turn order and what types of dice blocks you should use. Of course, people who grew up with the series [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|may not like the new direction of the 9th party]].



== Webcomics ==
== Webcomics ==
* The 'sillies' that run alongside ''[[Ctrl Alt Del]]'' have fewer panels (so the punchline comes at the end), stylised art (a complete lack of [[Only Six Faces|B^U]]) and a steadily rotating roster of secondary characters including the [[Grim Reaper]]. On the other hand, they [[Schedule Slip|don't have a set schedule]].
* The "sillies" that run alongside ''[[Ctrl+Alt+Del]]'' have fewer panels (so the punchline comes at the end), stylised art (a complete lack of [[Only Six Faces|B^U]]) and a steadily rotating roster of secondary characters including the [[Grim Reaper]]. On the other hand, they [[Schedule Slip|don't have a set schedule]].
* [[Platypus Comix (Website)|Platypus Comix]]'s "2008 Character Strike" series brought some comics that relied heavily on old material, as well as a simplistic ''[[Family Guy]]'' parody. These provided a few giggles, but not enough to hide the fact these ranked among the cheapest stories at the website. Then, the Head Executive decided to hire [[Spider-Man]] to replace the usual characters, resulting in "True Believers". Released a few weeks after Marvel's polarizing ''[[One More Day]]'', "True Believers" sent Spidey and Mary Jane Watson on a suspenseful, emotionally-driven adventure to prevent [[Joe Quesada|Joe]] [[No Celebrities Were Harmed|Quesadilla]] from forcefully ending their contented and iconic marriage. Peter Paltridge went on to declare this one of the two best comics he ever wrote.
* [[Platypus Comix]]'s "2008 Character Strike" series brought some comics that relied heavily on old material, as well as a simplistic ''[[Family Guy]]'' parody. These provided a few giggles, but not enough to hide the fact these ranked among the cheapest stories at the website. Then, the Head Executive decided to hire [[Spider-Man]] to replace the usual characters, resulting in "True Believers". Released a few weeks after Marvel's polarizing ''[[One More Day]]'', "True Believers" sent Spidey and Mary Jane Watson on a suspenseful, emotionally-driven adventure to prevent [[Joe Quesada|Joe]] [[No Celebrities Were Harmed|Quesadilla]] from forcefully ending their contented and iconic marriage. Peter Paltridge went on to declare this one of the two best comics he ever wrote.



== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* The early proto-[[Bugs Bunny]] short "Elmer's Candid Camera" was a total disaster, suffering from poor characterization, mediocre gags and positively abysmal timing and pacing, and as such received such bashing from [[Chuck Jones]], the director of the short, in his autobiography. [[Tex Avery]] learned from Chuck's mistakes, and promptly remade the cartoon as the first real [[Bugs Bunny]] cartoon "[[A Wild Hare]]".
* The early proto-[[Bugs Bunny]] short "Elmer's Candid Camera" was a total disaster, suffering from poor characterization, mediocre gags and positively abysmal timing and pacing, and as such received such bashing from [[Chuck Jones]], the director of the short, in his autobiography. [[Tex Avery]] learned from Chuck's mistakes, and promptly remade the cartoon as the first real [[Bugs Bunny]] cartoon "[[A Wild Hare]]".
* ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]''. Thanks to [[Lauren Faust]]'s genius, this show has managed to spread like wildfire on the Internet for having reasonably well developed characters and stories in a series often dismissed as being a shallow 30-minute commercial for girl toys.
* ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''. Thanks to [[Lauren Faust]]'s genius, this show has managed to spread like wildfire on the Internet for having reasonably well-developed characters and stories in a series often dismissed as being a shallow 30-minute commercial for girls' toys.
* All of the ''[[Tom and Jerry (Animation)|Tom and Jerry]]'' movies from ''The Magic Ring'' onwards.
* All of the ''[[Tom and Jerry]]'' movies from ''The Magic Ring'' onwards.


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(talking about Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2) "Y'know, I want to write and direct the third installment of this franchise, and make it the best thing anyone has ever seen, just so I can force critics to say "My god, you have to see Baby Geniuses 3!"

—Ash, The Shitty Movie Night Podcast

So you've read a book, watched a movie, or played a video game, and you're underwhelmed. Maybe the story was cliched and unoriginal, or it was difficult to follow. The characters lacked depth, and were little more than flat characters with a handful of personality traits and nothing more. If it was a video game, the gameplay maybe had some good ideas but they were handled poorly and the effort was wasted.

In actual fact, the book, film, or game may even have been pretty good in itself, it doesn't have to be bad, it's just that after reading it you try out the Sequel and you're completely blown away. It's much better. The story is more original, the pacing was fixed, the characters who seemed so flat before are now more fleshed out and interesting in their own right. If it's a video game, the gameplay has been much improved and everything comes together more tightly. All in all, you weren't expecting the next product to be this good, but it seems the creator(s) did indeed learn from their mistakes. You're rightly impressed.

There are several reasons for the surprisingly good sequel. Franchises with more regular production cycles can help studios retain talent and acquire financial backing more easily. It can also allow the production team more time to hone the stylistic aspects of their works. In fact many authors and directors claim that some of their first work in a series was a near miss and they didn't really hit stride until the sequel. Franchises which plan things beforehand are particularly able to take advantage of this because they're less likely to get caught in in the sort of death spiral an open ended series can fall into. On the other hand, other sequels are better than the original for the exact opposite reason; the production team on the first work was terrible and a Continuity Reboot was the only way out.

The opposite of Sequelitis in many cases, though sometimes a great sequel can produce a bad third or fourth installment (which would make it the opposite of Sophomore Slump). One rule espoused by some fans of comic-book style movies is that the sequels will have a chance to be better films overall, due to not having to get the origin out of the way.

Growing the Beard is similar, but it deals with a television series that becomes remarkably better once it finds its stride.

Note the name of the trope! This is about the sequels to products that either sucked or weren't that good to begin with, but somehow magically improved a lot in the next installment. This is not about products that were already very good but got better. If the original was excellent to begin with rather than mediocre, then it's an Even Better Sequel. Naturally, examples will be subjective.

See also More Popular Spinoff, Sequel Displacement.

Examples of Surprisingly Improved Sequel include:

Anime

  • Yu-Gi-Oh! (Toei series) was based on the manga, which is weird considered the series has suffered Adaptation Displacement from the second series onward. Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters is markedly better both in storyline plotting and production values, and while the voice acting is debatable (the first one had a lot of seiyuu greats), most of the casting choices are better fits.
  • Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
  • Apparently, Stratos 4 falls under this trope, what with Advance having a better, more sensible plot that the original.
  • MD Geist was a mediocre OVA from The Eighties given popularity in North America due to a widespread advertisement campaign by those who licensed it. This popularity managed to sway the director of the OVA to make a sequel after ten years; those ten years of experience are very evident.
  • Birdy the Mighty: Decode is widely regarded as a vast improvement over the original four-episode OVA.

Film

  • Star Trek: The Motion Picture was dull, padded out with Leave the Camera Running scenes, and didn't really feel like Star Trek. Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan, however, is widely regarded as one of the franchise's finest moments.
    • The general pattern is summed up by the phrase "Even-numbered Trek films don't suck", as IV and VI are generally considered good or at least decent, while III and especially V are generally considered...well...not so great. Comparatively, most fans consider Generations (the seventh) to be an okay sci-fi movie, while First Contact (the eighth) is a solid action film. That said, Nemesis doesn't have many fans, and the 2009 film Star Trek (which isn't so much as sequel as an Alternate Universe story) is mixed among Trekkies, but loved among general audiences.
      • More specifically, the films tend to alternate upward and downward trends in quality. Just look at the IMDB scores. (Until Nemesis, which only barely beats Insurrection and is far worse than the 2009 reboot.)
      • Also, III has more fans than the "even-numbered rule" would let on, and IV has more detractors.
  • Many Indiana Jones fans consider the second film Temple of Doom to be a major letdown, for the needlessly darker tone and pointless gross out scenes. As such, the much more widely approved of The Last Crusade is considered a substantial improvement.
  • Rob Zombie's first movie, House of 1000 Corpses, was panned by critics as Gorn. Its sequel, The Devil's Rejects, received mixed to positive reviews. It even received Two Thumbs Up when reviewed on At The Movies with Ebert and Roeper!
    • The Devil's Rejects is actually considered by horror aficionados to be one of the best horror films of the 2000s. Zombie's directorial turnaround was so sharp that he not only garnered a cult following but likely allowed him to make more horror films (like the "Halloween" remakes).
  • Scary Movie 3 was generally considered a great improvement on 2, with the gross-out humor being replaced by more straightforward humor reminiscent of Airplane! and The Naked Gun.
    • Interesting mention of those movies, considering that Leslie Nielsen, most famous for them, is also in Scary Movie 3.
  • The Pink Panther is widely regarded as a slightly above average '60s caper film, elevated by the presence of Capucine, David Niven, and Peter Sellers in the (supporting) role of Chief Inspector Clouseau. Its sequel, A Shot in the Dark, performs a bit of a genre shift (it's a Dolled-Up Installment that shifts the focus to Clouseau), and is widely regarded as one of the best comedies of that particular decade. It also introduced characters and elements that became series staples: manservant Cato and his karate attacks, former Chief Inspector Dreyfus and his being driven to madness by Clouseau, etc.
  • The original Dungeons and Dragons movie was mind-bogglingly awful. The sequel was at least a little less awful, though consequently no one cared.
  • There is this German teen comedy called Knallharte Jungs (More Ants in the Pants in the English dub) about a boy whose penis can talk. It was actually brilliant and hilariously funny. Now, this movie was actually a sequel to another movie called Harte Jungs (Ants in the Pants in the English release) And my god, was that one lame!
  • Although not as well-regarded as the original trilogy, critics generally gave much better reviews to Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith when it was released in comparison to the first two prequels.
  • Saw VI was regarded by fans and critics alike as a huge improvement over the two previous sequels and generally regarded as a worthy successor to the original trilogy.
  • Transformers: Dark of the Moon is considered to be one of these by some, especially those who don't mind the Transformers movies and Michael Bay in general. After critical consensus deemed its prequel, Revenge of The Fallen, to be not great, Michael Bay went and directly addressed the problems with the film (such as the various Scrappies, the juvenile humor, and the lack of plot and emotional depth) and worked on averting them for the sequel.
  • Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp was seen as a vast improvement over the original, not that that's very surprising, since the original was godawful.
  • The third and especially fourth Final Destination films are considered a Dork Age for the franchise... a Dork Age that many critics deem to have ended with the fifth film, which has been called the best since the original.
  • The Boogeyman sequels are generally viewed as a step up from the entirely mediocre original.
  • Every ill-received James Bond has a better follow-up (many times involving an actor change).
  • While Frankenstein is widely remembered as a horror classic, most of what is associated with the monster comes from Bride of Frankenstein, which is considered one of the best sequels in history.
  • While the first two Puppet Master movies are fairly decent horror flicks, the third one, which actually goes into Andre Toulon's back story, is considered a classic.
  • Amid the bad movies that were released in the A Nightmare on Elm Street franchise, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors is actually considered to be a decent movie.

Literature

  • An older literary example, is that Anthony Trollope's celebrated novel Barchester Towers is actually the sequel to the lesser-known The Warden.
  • The First two books of The Dresden Files, Storm Front and Fool Moon, are considered to be okay, if nothing special. Book 3 onwards, when the main plot kicks in, is far better.
  • Bruce Coville's My Teacher Is an Alien is a decent standalone science fiction story. The three sequels, however, are an epic, philosophical, and surprisingly deep look at the human condition through the eyes of extraterrestrials. When people praise the series, it is almost always the sequels they are talking about, with the original being more like a pilot episode that sets up the characters.
    • The Rod Allbright books follow the same pattern.
  • R.A. Salvatore's The Crystal Shard reads, especially in its first hundred pages, like it was written by a sixteen-year-old who'd just read The Lord of the Rings. His later novels are a marked improvement in comparison.
  • Eragon is A New Hope not in space. Eldest and Brisingr have started getting a little bit more original.
  • The first Shannara book was largely a ripoff of The Lord of the Rings. The later books found more solid footing. Brooks has stated that Elfstones (the second book) needed a lot of editorial work, but it's his favourite as a result.
  • The first Culture novel, Consider Phlebas, is a passable science fiction novel. The next, The Player of Games, is the first in which the whole impact of what the Culture is like can be felt, and is usually the one recommended to read first.
    • The key problem being that in Consider Phlebas, the Culture are the antagonists, with the hero of the story being an enemy soldier, more or less, who is obviously none too fond of them. The criticisms he raises of Iain Banks society are a lot easier to understand and ponder on when you actually know more about just what the Culture is.
  • Arguably, Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol, sequel to The Da Vinci Code -- he breaks away from a lot of the cliches that had bogged down his earlier books (the formulaic opening sentence, the first good guy mentioned dying, a Token Romance) -- and spins a thriller that ends up not postulating a likely incorrect view of history, but one that hinges on the idea that wisdom lives inside us.

Live-Action TV

  • The original Battlestar Galactica was pure 70s sci-fi cheese, if a fun show nonetheless. The Syfy remake, however, took the concept, scraped off the cheese, and made it Darker and Edgier with a great deal of success. The resulting show was considered a surprising improvement over the original series and garnered a large following.
  • The Blackadder isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to the next three series. Interestingly enough, some of the improvements were a result of the original not being as good as hoped; the producers were given a much lower budget to work with, leading to the small cast and the use of just a few sets, rather than location shoots, which became two of the trademarks of the series. Also different was the Blackadder character, which changed slightly from series to series, but never went back to the idiot of the first series.

Music

  • Tends to be extremely common with a lot of bands, and quite often the first album most bands actually make are never released by the label that signs them or is cannibalized to make their first official album.
  • Tori Amos' original band, Y Kant Tori Read?, paled in comparison to her first solo album, Little Earthquakes.
  • Radiohead got a significantly more sophisticated sound with The Bends, than they had in their debut.
    • Similarly, Van Morrison, who like Radiohead got a debut with a Signature Song that he didn't like very much ("Creep" for Radiohead, "Brown Eyed Girl" for Morrison), earned more acclaim with a highly experimental second album.
  • Mötley Crüe's debut album, Too Fast for Love, was a decent glam metal album, held back by inexperience on behalf of the band and rather inept management. Their next album was expected to be more solid, but when Shout at the Devil was released it blew said expectations out of the water. This happened again later, twice. After Vince Neil killed someone in a car crash and served a jail term, no one expected much out of the Crüe, but Girls Girls Girls ended up being a great album. Unfortunately, the band's well-publicised substance abuse problems made the tour complete crap, and between Tommy Lee and Heather Locklear's marriage, Nikki Sixx's near-fatal heroin overdose, Mick Mars' struggle with alcoholism and ankylosing spondylitis, and Vince Neil effectively leaving the band for a time, they were pretty much dismissed as washed-up former stars. Then, they released Dr. Feelgood. In just over a month they were number one on the charts. Dr. Feelgood is still considered their best album by most fans.
  • Black Sabbath's first, eponymous album was decent, but Paranoid really knocked down all barriers and led to more heavy metal songs being played on the radio, including their own "Paranoid" and "Iron Man".
  • Iron Maiden are a borderline example. Their first two albums were decent, featuring more glam-like lyrics. After Killers, Paul di'Anno was replaced by Bruce Dickinson. Then The Number Of The Beast happened. The rest is metallic history.
  • After the release of their first album, Talk Talk was dismissed as a cheap Duran Duran knock-off band. With each successive album, however, their sound matured and they ventured into more experimental territory, eventually dropping the New Wave genre completely and becoming an influential Post Rock vanguard, culminating with their final album, 1991's critically adored Laughing Stock.
  • Tchaikovsky only wrote three symphonies. They are numbered 4, 5, and 6. (For those who aren't classical music aficionados, his first three symphonies aren't nearly as good as the last three, and are almost never performed.)
  • Pantera made albums prior to Cowboys From Hell. Very, very bad albums.
  • Nirvana's Nevermind. The band's first album Bleach is a muddy sounding and sporadically brilliant album (compare "Blew", "Negative Creep" and "About a Girl" with the less distinguished songs like "Big Cheese", "Swap Meet" and "Downer"). Few people at the time saw any reason why Nirvana were any more promising than other Seattle bands like Mudhoney, TAD, and Mother Love Bone.
    • Ditto with The Smashing Pumpkins; their first album Gish was a weird mashup of pre-grunge, post-80s Hard rock. By comparison, Siamese Dream is considered on par with Nevermind when it comes to 90s alternative.
  • Imagine if, tomorrow, Selena Gomez released an award-winning, angsty, introspective, multi-platinum-selling album that would become one of the defining albums of the decade it was released in. Got that picture in your head? Good, because that is exactly what happened in 1995, when a Canadian Teen Idol by the name of Alanis Morissette switched from cheesy bubblegum pop to chick rock and released Jagged Little Pill. There's a reason why nobody mentions the first two albums in her discography.
  • The first two albums by Faith No More, when it was in its original Chuck Mosely-headed incarnation, were uninspiring, if not utter crap. Then Mike Patton replaced Mosely and, starting with The Real Thing, the band became one of the all-time greats.
  • Kelly Clarkson's first album Thankful, made just off of her winning American Idol, was a modest hit. Its success was credited to the popularity to the show more than to her. Her second album Breakaway, featuring such hits as "Behind These Hazel Eyes", "Walk Away", "Since U Been Gone" and the title track, was huge and established her firmly as a pop star.
  • Simple Minds' first album is... Well, let's just say that "Simple Minds play Three Chords and the Truth" is at best a flawed proposition. Had they not made Reel to Real Cacophony but a year later, it's doubtful that any but the most devoted punk fan would have had the slightest recollection of them.
  • The Slits. Though their early work was never officially released, an appearance in The Punk Rock Movie, various high profile gigs supporting The Clash and The Sex Pistols, and a Peel Session (which is more than many of their peers ever got around to doing) firmly established them as a shambolic but enthusiastic Punk band, most notable for being one of the very few all women line ups of the time. When they eventually recorded an official first album, 1979's Cut, they'd learned how to play their instruments and veered wildly off into Dub and Funk territories. It was a landmark release in Post-Punk history, but was such a radical shift in style and playing ability it prompted accusations of hiring session musicians and never actually playing on the record.
  • Similar to the Radiohead and Van Morrison examples, Jethro Tull and Rush have parallel origins: Their first albums, This Was and Rush respectively, were basically just rip-offs of Cream and Led Zeppelin, again, respectively, then their second albums, Stand Up and Fly By Night were considered improvements, their third albums Benefit and Caress of Steel received mixed reviews (though more so in the latter case), and their fourth albums, Aqualung and 2112 are considered their breakouts, establishing them as legends of Progressive Rock.
  • It's generally accepted that Blur's debut Leisure has its moments, but is overall a rather patchy late-"baggy" era album. Without the benefit of hindsight, there's nothing to indicate that three years later they'd be one of Britain's biggest bands of the mid-90s with the iconic Britpop release Parklife. (The change in direction- and improvement- started with Modern Life is Rubbish, but that wasn't a major success on its first release).

Tabletop Games

  • Most of Matt Ward's 5th edition codexes are rather... divisive among Warhammer 40,000 fans. The Space Marines codex has some rather... Base Breaking fluff, the Blood Angels Codex has several Game Breakers, while the Grey Knights codex was simultaneously a Game Breaker and an enormous Base Breaker fluff-wise. The reaction to the news that he would be writing the 5th Edition Necrons codex was... less than stellar. But when the codex was released, it turned out the Necrons Codex was well balanced, neither too strong nor too weak, and while it did introduce several massive retcons to the existing Necrons fluff, most fans agree that those changes were long overdue and rescued Necrons from becoming a Generic Doomsday Villain.

Video Games

  • The original Street Fighter was a broken mess, with bad controls being the one huge problem that brought it down. By turning the Good Bad Bugs into gameplay features, removing the worst Bad Bad Bugs, and generally improving the controls, Street Fighter II is credited with popularizing the one-on-one tournament fighter genre and becoming a phenomenon.
  • Due to the Final Fantasy franchise and its Broken Base, Final Fantasy XIII received a lot of venom for fans for its linearity. Then came Final Fantasy XIII-2, a game that not only doesn't feel like a narrow corridor, but has side-quests up the wazoo.
  • The first Time Splitters was an average, plotless, mildly quirky fetch-quest game. The series really took off to its cult status at the second installment; a fun, badass, and most importantly HILARIOUS Spiritual Sequel and Affectionate Parody of the behemoth that was GoldenEye in its day, courtesy of Rare veterans. Think of everything that made GoldenEye good, turn it Up to Eleven, add monkeys and zombies with shotguns and you're not even close to the utter craziness this series embodies. ZOMBIE MONKEYS.
    • While the second game's campaign consisted of mostly stand-alone missions, the sequel's has a much stronger, inter-connected storyline that culminated in the reveal of the series villain. While not quite as fast-paced and insane as the previous entry and with arguably weaker multi-player, the faults of both games balance each other out and they're often considered on par with each other, with which is better depending largely on one's personal preferences (most fans do consider them both great games however).
  • It certainly happens in Dungeon Siege. In the first game, the characters you could hire for your party were a bunch of one-dimensional mercenaries that came out of nowhere. In Dungeon Siege II, the characters were given their own personalities, conversations among each other, and even their own side quests.
  • Zone of the Enders sold well mostly because it came with a demo for Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. The game itself was decent enough but suffered from repetitive battles, criminal shortness and whiny and cliched characters, leading to a somewhat mixed reaction. As such, many people who liked the original concept were happy to see the sequel tighten up the controls, give you twice as many options in battle and include a long and interesting plot to follow. They were even more surprised to see whiny and annoying characters in the first game return in style, having leveled in Bad Ass in the intervening time between games.
  • Bloody Roar was an obscure, poorly-balanced mess of a game, with overly simple but awkward controls, poor AI, and a wannabe SNK Boss, thus the only appeal of the game was its relative simplicity and novelty, and possible pandering to furries (or Alice). Bloody Roar 2, however, was an elegant masterpiece, fixing the system into something much less cumbersome and very easy to play, yet empathizing mind games and strategies, and allowing the player (or CPU) to easily counter fools who would try to button mash, the balance was much better (though still far from perfect..), story mode was introduced, and the game's story improved tenfold, the AI was dramatically improved, the low levels still being fairly easy and welcoming to new players (you could button mash most of the opponents on setting 1 and 2, though if you tried it on the final boss you would be horribly beaten down) and the hard levels capable of challenging an experienced and intelligent player, and the Final Boss was extremely hard and clever, yet he was still balanced for VS play, and fought fairly (no reading your buttons, or moving at impossible speeds, or moves that take off half your life in one hit, though he could combo you painfully). Sadly the game only managed a small yet strong fanbase, possibly due to the first game, and the lack of a budget. The later games fell into Adaptation Decay; 3 and Primal Fury/Extreme are still fun, but 4 managed to kill the entire franchise.
  • Dynasty Warriors 1 and 2 were bashed by reviews and many gamers alike, but from the 3rd game onward, the line was well received for a while. Recently, it's become mocked by reviewers (but still maintains a base of hardcore fans) because it remains a similar game in every incarnation.
    • As a note, Dynasty Warriors 1 is not part of the same series, which is why the Japanese series numbers are one less than the NA series numbers.
    • The crossover series Warriors Orochi had a surprisingly improved third game. While it stays true to the Warriors formula of "kill as many bad guys as possible", it also added a level editor, cooperative and online play, a single overarching story arc in place of the usual faction-based approach, and a ginormous cast of characters from the series' history.[1]
  • Similarly, Soul Calibur was quite an improvement on Soul Blade/Soul Edge (most people think the series began with Soul Calibur).
  • Several Dating Sim series (such as X-Change) start with a Porn Without Plot game with shallow characters that exist almost solely for the main character to have sex with and little interaction with the player (who's assumed to be too busy interacting with themselves) beyond them clicking to the next scene. Then a sequel adds things like actual plot, characters, branching stories, and the sorts of things that separate porn from a story that happens to involve sex. They also often get improved budgets allowing things like better art, more CG pics for scenes, and voice acting. In fact, ever so often a series gets so improved, they'll make a non-hentai version, which have a habit of completely overshadowing the original.
  • While the original Dragon Quest I scores points for innovation, it's aged terribly compared to the first installments of Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star. Dragon Quest II fares worse since it can't even play the innovation card. Dragon Quest III on the other hand takes the basic job class system and expends on upon it. It also most likely contains the Ur Example of the Monster Arena and building a new town. The Game Boy Color remake is even better adding a new job class, a Bonus Dungeon, a redone localization and a whole lot more.
  • Speaking of Phantasy Star; the original was considered incredible for its time, and Phantasy Star II had an involved plot and interesting characters, but not nearly enough dialogue, an awkward translation, and a variety of weird events and sidequests that had no real bearing on the story, and Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom looked weird, had a boring story, lots of characters but almost no development for any of them and even less connection to the main plot... then Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium came along with its beautiful graphics, cool music, involved and complex dialogue, interesting and developed characters, and intensely satisfying payoff for long-term fans of the series.
  • Hitman: Codename 47 featured a good concept but had very twitchy AI, a buggy disguise system, and no ability to save during missions. Hitman: Silent Assassin added the ability to save as well making improvements on the shortfalls of the original, as did each installment afterwards. Contracts also added better non-lethal takedown methods and Blood Money added the ability to use the environment to make your kills look like accidents.
    • Also, Contracts was mostly a remake of Codename 47 with gameplay and level-design improvements, justified through unreliable memories of the player character as his life is flashing before his eyes during a near death experience. Because of this (and because the first game was PC-only while the others had console ports) the "Hitman Trilogy" re-release only features the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th games.
  • The original Summoner was a fairly dull RPG, albeit one with some good moments. The second was far better, having a significantly better combat system, voice actors who sounded like they cared, and a badass female protagonist who could shapeshift into monsters.
  • While the earlier Armored Core games had their own fandom, the games had really problematic graphics, confusing storylines, and really, really laggy controls. It wasn't until Master of Arena that the arena system even came in, and until the 3 series that the graphics and controls received good reviews.
  • Mobile Suit Gundam did not have a pleasant entry to the world of 3D PS2 gaming. Journey to Jaburo was aimed fully at the fanboys with loads of FMV and well-done audio, but horrible in-game graphics and controls combined with lackluster melee combat ruined the game even for many fans of the series, and worried fans were concerned that the series would be abandoned or left as schlock. Federation vs Zeon managed to make a surprisingly good VirtualOn knockoff with a worthwhile campaign mode and decent replay value. Zeonic Front actually made an enjoyable squad-based tactics game with actually memorable original characters and strategy, and Encounters in Space was likewise playable even for those that weren't already into the series.
    • Speaking of, there's also the Gundam vs. Series, which went through Sequelitis (AEUG vs Titans and Gundam vs Zeta Gundam, which were little more than Fed vs Zeon with new machines) before swinging back around into this trope's territory with the Alliance vs ZAFT games (which refined the game engine by speeding things up, making melee more viable, and adding in new tricks like boost dashing and shield defense) and the Gundam vs Gundam games (which continued the refinements while bringing in mecha from the Gundam franchise's 30-year history rather than focusing on just a single show at a time).
  • Lufia was a bog-standard RPG. Lufia II added puzzles, a more compelling storyline, one of the first randomised bonus dungeons, fun-to-use and not-too-rare random drops that give you special abilities... and created one of the best SNES-era RPGs. Had the developers not run out of budget or time for a couple towers late in the game (the only puzzle-free dungeons), it would be perfection.
  • The first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game was a so-so spinoff with some occasional bright spots. Its sequel, Explorers of Time and Darkness streamlines a few things, adds Wi-fi compatibility, adds much better plot twists, and generally has a grander and more entertaining plotline with genuine emotion.
    • The same can be said of the Pokémon Ranger games. The first game was different, and it was neat to play as something other than a trainer, but many gameplay elements were hard (must not slip off edge of disgustingly slimy floor!) to nearly impossible (hold still, Pokémon, so I can draw twenty loops around you without lifting my stylus!). The second game, Shadows of Almia, had a better and longer plot, let you explore your world more, made it so you didn't have to draw twenty loops in one go, and actually had adults that were worth something besides giving you your initial equipment. Much more fun. The third game was arguably even better, taking all that good stuff and expanding it.
  • The first two Grand Theft Auto games were mild successes that garnered mixed reviews due to somewhat dodgy gameplay and older style graphics. The only real reason why they attracted much attention was because of the controversy that they caused—which had been largely whipped by the developers for exactly this reason. With the jump to 3D in Grand Theft Auto III, the game garnered near universal acclaim, kicked up a firestorm of controversy, and changed the entire industry with its Wide Open Sandbox gameplay.
  • Rockstar Games as a whole are very good at this. Red Dead Revolver was a regular game at best. Red Dead Redemption is basically Revolver plus the GTA formula, with next generation graphics and a much richer plot.
  • Metal Gear AC!D was ambitious, but very unrefined, with potentially broken gameplay. AC!D 2 sharpened the graphics, tidied up the engine, and added a lot of depth and spontaneity to the gameplay. Also, the story made sense this time around.
    • AC!D 2 also played to the fans of the first by bringing back what many would acknowledge as the first game's best moment - as the final boss of that game comes back (and, in a masterful bit of foreshadowing, you run on top of it without noticing unless you really paid attention), only tightened and with a potentially nasty time limit to make it harder.
    • If you didn't like all the Guide Dang It and lack of good stealth options in the original Metal Gear, its sequel, Solid Snake, could be considered to fit this trope.
  • The King of Fighters 94 was a very good game, but The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard and the controls are tough to get used to, although the music is awesome. 95 has some improvements, but the AI is even worse. The King of Fighters 96 is widely considered the point where everything really took off.
    • KOF XIII made up for KOF XII's deficiencies in a major way, keeping the high-definition visuals and bringing back some of the fan-favorite characters that were left out of XII, as well as a tutorial mode and a story mode that chronicles the final events of the Tales of Ash Saga.
  • Neverwinter Nights had a rather tedious and unimaginative storyline. Then came the Shadows of Undrentide expansion, which was markedly better, and finally Hordes of the Underdark, which completely blew the previous two away.
    • Neverwinter Nights 2 does it one better, with big improvements between the original game and the Mask of the Betrayer expansion. These include a greater emphasis on story, meaningful dialog, more unique and deeper party members (with the possibility to solo) and less focus on the engine's near unplayable combat.
    • Unfortunately, Neverwinter Nights 2 hasn't been around long enough[when?] for the real gems to emerge from the modding community. Dark Waters (incidentally written by the same person who wrote the Shadowlords/Dreamcatcher/Demon arc for the first game) is pretty good, though, and its sea combat system was brilliantly scripted.
  • Conflict Freespace: The Great War was a fun space combat simulation game with a nice game engine and a solid storyline, but it wasn't outstanding in any field. The sequel, Freespace 2, was darker, with a far more gripping and surprising storyline, vastly-improved combat, visuals that still impress today and a jaw-dropping and somewhat ambiguous ending that has provoked debate ever since. It is also notable for being one of the few games where the player's character actually dies at the end, although forewarned, it is possible to avoid this and get a slightly different final cut scene. Freespace 2 was such an awesome space combat game it killed the genre stone dead by making every other game in the genre redundant, and the few games in the genre to have come along since have not been as impressive. Fans are divided on whether a third game would be a good idea or not.
    • How good is Freespace 2? The fan community has released several professional-quality campaigns, long since taken over operating the multiplayer component, made several total conversions (the most well-known turns Freespace 2 into Babylon 5: The Videogame,) and to top if off, they've been upgrading the engine non-stop since the source-code was released. On a decent computer, the source-code project makes the game look like it came out two or three years ago, when, in fact, it's over a decade old.
  • After Angel of Darkness and the last game or two before that (along with the movies) many considered the Tomb Raider franchise beyond saving, but a change to another developer brought the series back again with Legend which went on to be the fastest selling (note, not highest selling) game in the series so far and got high critical acclaim. Depending on your feelings about many of the changes in Legend this can also extend to Anniversary and/or Underworld.
  • A rollercoaster with Ace Combat. The localization of Electrosphere had its entire plot surgically removed. Shattered Skies fared better, and had a better plot to begin with, but its strength was in the delivery. The Unsung War brings everything together with sympathetic characters, a clever plot, and the astounding, epic presentation the series is known for, which it continued with for The Belkan War, except bigger. Fires of Liberation, however, goes a step back with a textbook, straightforward plot and a cast consisting of only supporting characters, none of whom get much individual screen time or, indeed, even matter until the very end.
  • The original Super Robot Wars game on the Nintendo Game Boy was clunky, with minimal plot and a lot of Guide Dang It moments. Each game's taken steps since then, with its first sequel actually using the pilots and storylines from the series' in question, and producing Banpresto's first Original Generation batch, featuring Masaki Ando, Bian Zoldark, and Shu Shirakawa.
    • Similarly, the first Super Robot Wars Original Generation was fairly clunky compared to the earlier SRW games on the Game Boy Advance, with a pretty basic story and minimal animation and effects. It feels a lot like a side-project Banpresto wasn't ready to commit to (it was, after all, essentially a crossover without the crossing over). Compare to Original Generation 2, which featured more plots and better animation and effects that nearly match the first Alpha game on the PS 1.
  • Saints Row was your stereotypical Wide Open Sandbox, released to faint praise for having a solid, fun game, but still being a shameless GTA clone. Only one thing really changed between its release and its sequel - GTA decided it wanted to be taken seriously, and we got GTA 4. Saints Row 2 went the other path - the main character became an over-the-top Heroic Comedic Sociopath and the game took Refuge in Audacity. Critics loved it, as did players.
    • Even Yahtzee loved the sequel. He even called his review of it an "overly long wedding proposal".
  • The original Star Control was a 2D space combat sim with hardly any story elements (at least not in the game.). Star Control 2 kept the good parts (the space combat, aka Super Melee) and added a surprisingly complex and fun story mode.
  • Think about this one for a second: the original NES Bomberman didn't have multiplayer. Considering the multiplayer is often considered the backbone of the franchise's popularity...
  • 50 Cent Bulletproof was trashed for all the bugs and bad gameplay (the PSP version was by a different developer and fared slightly better). 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand is getting above average scores due to great control based on established conventions, and a story that's praised as hilariously So Bad It's Good.
  • The original Killzone was a heavily hyped PlayStation 2 shooter that ended up falling quite short of expectations, though it wasn't bad at all, just mediocre. Killzone 2, on the other hand, has been well received by both critics and gamers, and "lived up to the hype".
  • The first two Wangan Midnight arcade games were basically just Tokyo Xtreme Racer with Wangan Midnight characters and stage-based gameplay, with few players remembering or thoroughly enjoying them. Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune, on the other hand, gave Initial D Arcade Stage a run for its money.
    • For that matter, the first Initial D Arcade Stage had a poorly done multiplayer mode which, among other problems, required the second player to insert his/her coin(s) within 9 seconds of the first player, and had no incentive whatsoever to play a head-to-head battle over just playing Time Attack mode. Initial D Arcade Stage Ver.2 significantly improved the multiplayer mode.
  • If we were to follow the oddball retconning of Scramble into the Gradius series, that would count.
  • The original MOTHER, despite its interesting story and quirky take on the RPG genre, was a total grindfest with some insane spikes in difficulty at times. (Mt. Itoi, anyone?) The second game, EarthBound, fixed many of the problems the original had, such as removing the random encounters, easing difficulty, and taking itself much less seriously. It was by no means a bad game, but it had many flaws, like its blatant overuse of event flags (often requiring you to talk to a completely random character or do something unintuitive to get the plot moving), dreadful story pacing, and main characters who were flat as a pancake. In a rare instance of a Surprisingly Improved Third Installment, Mother 3 ironed out most of the problems of its predecessors. It balanced the difficulty, paced its story nicely, gave its characters fleshed-out personalities, and even brought out the dark edge the story really needed.
  • The first Age of Empires I game was released to lukewarm reviews. All the following games and spin-offs received critical acclaim.
  • By many accounts, the second Dark Cloud (Dark Chronicle overseas) is an immense improvement over the original. One area is the fact that the weapon system was fixed. In both games, weapons break if you use them too much without repairing them. In the second game you could fix broken weapons, but in the first they'd be gone forever. Several other things were fixed as well.
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Unleashed. While people disagree about whether they are Adventure 2 or Heroes quality (former being "better"), they generally agree that they surpass Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06.
  • The first Fable game had an infamous amount of hype during development. When it was finally released in 2004, it received mostly positive reviews, but it ultimately failed to live up to it's hype, as others were disappointed by the lack of many promised features, a somewhat small, restrictive game world and other flaws. Along comes Fable II in 2008, with more refined gameplay, a larger, more detailed world with more quests, and deeper sandbox gameplay that implemented many promised features from Fable. It received better reviews from all.
  • The first Elder Scrolls game, Arena, wasn't bad for its time, featuring things like day/night cycles, seasons (with changing weather), holidays, and an advanced lighting engine, but despite having a rather large world, there wasn't anything particularly interesting to see or do, with a fairly generic setting and a clichéd plot (evil chancellor usurps emperor, have to collect 8 magic staff pieces to beat him). Then along came Daggerfall, which expanded the world (both in size and in richness) by several orders of magnitude, and added tons of things to do (dozens of factions to join! Vampirism! Lycanthropy! Real estate!), one of the most detailed character creators seen in a CRPG, and a well-written plot with twists and political intrigue galore (as well as bugs and glitches galore).
  • Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming is a Surprisingly Improved Sequel to the confusing and disappointing earlier Harvest Moon Puzzle Game, Puzzle de Harvest Moon.
  • Backyard Basketball on the PlayStation 2 improved on everything Backyard Basketball on the PC, released two years earlier, had. There were no glitches, the game never freezes, there are NBA teams, and there are 9 more playable characters (while removing 1). There are even unlockable powerups!
  • Contra 4 came after four consecutive installments that sat poorly with fans of the series (two lame PS1 releases and two so-so PS2 releases) and whipped the series back into what it should be.
  • Mega Man X had a nearly universally despised seventh game (an unusual instance in the extremely divided fanbase that Mega Man has); but the eighth game is considered a vast improvement.
    • Mega Man Star Force's second game was hard to take even for the people who liked the first one, but the third game made up for it in incredibly unexpected ways, to a degree that some consider it the best in the entirety of the Battle Network/Star Force continuity.
    • The original is regarded as good, but noticeably flawed, and had relatively low sales for a Mega Man game. Then came Mega Man 2 and the series was quickly established as one of Capcom's mainstays.
  • Dragonball Z: The Legacy of Goku for the Game Boy Advance was, for lack of a more inventive word, terrible. The combat controls are stiff, the plot is impenetrable to all but the most seasoned DBZ fans, and the game is way too short (beatable in about 6–8 hours, ending after Goku's battle with Frieza). Its sequel, Legacy of Goku II, corrected almost all of these flaws, as well as giving the player the ability to control characters other than Goku.
    • And then, the relatively few flaws and lack of depth found in Legacy of Goku II were completely gone in Buu's Fury.
  • Astonishia Story was an RPG originally made for PCs in the mid-1990s and remained exclusively a Korean property until 2006, when the game was remade for the PSP and distributed worldwide. The port hadn't aged well at all, and the lackluster localization effort by Ubisoft didn't help. Three years later, Astonishia Story 2 (titled Crimson Gem Saga in non-Asian countries) was released to a much warmer reception, with tighter character development, a retooled battle and skill system that emphasizes combination attacks, much less Forced Level Grinding, and a better translation by the team at Atlus.
  • Luminous Arc for the DS was an Cliché Storm of an SRPG with a particularly Narmish voice acting in every. Single. Chapter. The next game, Luminous Arc 2 moves the story to another world with a better plot, vastly improved voice acting and a more streamlined user interface. The fact that they added a fast forward button, as well as bringing in Multiple Endings (which are further expanded in Luminous Arc 3) helps a lot.
  • Thunder Force III was a huge improvement over its rather average predecessor Thunder Force II, they got rid of the annoying overhead scrolling stages, improved the graphics and music, and made the gameplay a lot better. Thunder Force IV and Thunder Force V continued on the tradition of awesomeness and were pretty much the peak of the franchise. Unfortunately, Sequelitis took effect after that.
  • Assassin's Creed I had really good Le Parkour gameplay and the beginnings of an interesting Ancient Conspiracy story, but was burdened with boring characters and levels, padding, and repetitive side quests and assassinations. Assassin's Creed II had a likable main character, levels that were memorable, and missions that were actually fun.
    • The one thing most people hated was the actual player character, the clueless whiner from the future descended from the actual assassins in both games.
      • Thankfully, considering Desmond has learned Ezio's Le Parkour skills and gained Altair's Eagle Vision through the bleeding effect, all signs point to the idea that Desmond will have Took a Level in Badass in the third game.
  • Compare Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem to the original Dark Dragon. While the latter was a good game that helped establish an entire genre it was plagued with a terrible inventory system, staves didn't give EXP, and the graphics and story were rather bland. Then the former comes and fixes most of the gameplay flaws as well as much needed character and story development and wraps it up with a more streamlined version of Dark Dragon.
  • Red Steel was an ambitious shooter/swordplay launch title for the Wii marred by bad swordplay controls and an overall rushed presentation. With the implementation of the Wii MotionPlus allowing for more precise controls, Red Steel 2 is being hailed as what its predecessor should have been and even being regarded as one of the best-looking Wii games.
  • Dune II. The original was a boring adventure game. The "sequel" (which had really nothing to do with the original) was one of the most important games of all time and the progenitor of the Real Time Strategy game.
  • Just Cause was a Wide Open Sandbox game with a few nice ideas (like giving you a parachute you can use at almost any time) and some beautiful vistas, but had clumsy controls, kind of boring characters and was definitely not something you'd want to pay full price for. Just Cause 2, however, vastly improves your ability to use the grappling hook in conjunction with the parachute, all but allowing you to fly around the landscape, and has tons of things for you to blow up whenever you want, making it a solid A-list title. It's worth noting that the first Just Cause was Avalanche Studios' first ever release, and they obviously spent a lot of time learning from their mistakes for the sequel.
  • In America, the early parts of the Metal Gear series were a minor success, held back on the NES by its extremely questionable translation, bugs, and frustrating puzzles. It wasn't until Metal Gear Solid, with its improved localization, that the series took off in the US.
  • Söldner-X: Himmelssturmer was a serviceable side-scrolling shoot-em-up with excellent visuals, but was mainly held back by its sluggishness and brevity. Its sequel, Söldner-X 2: Final Prototype improves on both of these aspects while adding more playable ships and weapons, a revamped power-up and combo system (no more power-down items), and assorted challenges and an expansion pack to keep the game fresh even after completion.
  • Touhou: In-between the standard danmaku games, which have been slowly improving, ZUN has done a bit of experimenting. The concepts he reuses tend to be much better the second time around:
    • Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream is, bluntly, terrible, suffering from cheating AI, little plot, ugly graphics, and boring battles. Phantasmagoria of Flower View still isn't great, but is at least reasonably passable. The AI cheats less blatantly, a fairly interesting story, it's fairly pretty, and you're actually dodging your opponent's patterns instead of stage enemies.
    • Shoot The Bullet was mostly made for the sake of having a game to go with the fanbook's release, and it shows. The game is fairly short, has a lot of very similar patterns (Spinning! Streaming! Spinning while streaming!), mostly fairly ugly patterns, an unpolished UI, and is really hard, even by Touhou standards. Double Spoiler is longer, has more variety, fixed most of STB's annoying issues, and is reasonably clearable by the average Touhou player.
    • Then there is the fangame Koumajou Densetsu - where the second game has recived massive improvements over the first as well as added really well done voice acting.
  • Dementium the Ward, although enjoyable, had a number of flaws. The most known one being that when you die, you go ALL the way back to the beginning of the chapter. Dementium II had numerous improvements, like an omnipresent minimap, the ability to crouch and jump, the ability to save up health-restoring items, more fluid controls and more balanced and varied levels.
  • The original Shining Force, while still a fun Strategy RPG, was riddled with exploitable bugs and poor class balance, while having too gradual a difficulty curve. Later entries have not only fixed these problems, but also introduced new concepts, such as summoning and weapon skill levels, to add to the variety of the gameplay.
  • The original Sacred, while a decent hack n slash ARPG in its own right, was brought down by loads of glitches and bugs, simplistic gameplay, and some amount of Fake Difficulty. Sacred 2, however, had much fewer bugs and glitches (though it still has a few), improved gameplay mechanics, and was generally much more polished and inviting. Oh, and the fan community it formed is one of the best around, giving rise to the somewhat famous Sacred 2 Community Patch. And now that the series license has been picked up by Deep Silver after Ascaron's sudden bankruptcy, things are continuing to look up for the franchise.
  • Lego Island 2 is mostly a Contested Sequel, but the most common opinion on it is that it was killed by long load times, dull and lifeless voice acting, poor animation, glitchy physics, low replay value, and poorly explained minigames. Lego Island Xtreme Stunts on the other hand fixes nearly all of these problems, mostly by adding far more replay value, shortening the load times, explaining the minigames better, and having far less glitches.
  • Castlevania had this too in its Game Boy trilogy. The Adventure had unresponsive controls, Fake Difficulty in losing whip power after only one hit and extremely slow gameplay. Sub-weapons and such were absent, and hearts, normally used for subweapon power, restored energy. Belmont's Revenge rectified this in many ways, with only losing whip power if you die or get hit by the snake tower's fireballs. Christopher Belmont still moves slowly, but nowhere near as slow as his first adventure. The much more responsive controls, a non-linear level select format, like in Mega Man, even better music and a password system were welcome additions. The sub-weapon system reappeared, albeit it's only limited to the Cross (or Axe) and the Holy Water, depending on which version you have in the game (Japanese version had the Cross, International versions had the Axe).
  • Deus Ex fans, following the lukewarm reception to Deus Ex: Invisible War, were rightfully skeptical that Human Revolution could live up to the original, with the long time frame and the closure of Ion Storm with a new development team taking over. It's an almost unanimous opinion that the original game will never be matched, but many agree that Human Revolution is the worthy followup that Invisible War wasn't.
  • The original Fallout was a solid, if slightly glitchy RPG whose primary claim to fame was being violent enough that Steve Jackson withdrew the GURPS license during development. Fallout 2 is a classic, and defined the open world, dark humor, pervasive bugs, and surreal special encounters that would become hallmarks of the sequel.
    • In a similar vein, Fallout 3 was a good game, with a visually impressive world, but suffered due to flat characters, lack of meaningful interaction, almost pointless social skills, and deviating from the source material quite a bit. Fallout: New Vegas, with the reins handed back to the original team, was more linear, but much more widely praised for retaining the feel of a Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, while adding interesting new mechanics to the Fallout 3 experience and making characters and interactions much more vibrant and rewarding while making a social character more viable.
  • Also from Black Isle, Baldur's Gate 2 took an already decent D&D experience and improved on everything, particularly the story, which was further improved and given a proper conclusion with its expansion, Throne of Bhaal.
  • Outpost was a turn-based colony management game that was well hyped before its release, but it turned out to just be Simcity IN SPACE! Not only that, it had several bugs, and was basically unfinished. Outpost 2 on the other hand, took some of the key plot elements from the first, and made it into an enjoyably complex real time strategy game with a heavy focus on colony management. The story (which ignored the first in almost every conceivable fashion) was very detailed and interesting, becoming a tale told from the point of view of two factions, both trying to survive and avoid extinction. The inclusion of the story in the form of a novella, along with all the well-researched science (the game leans heavily towards hard science fiction), makes the game more enjoyable than one would expect from its predecessor.
  • The first Arc the Lad is a fairly average SRPG: the battle system is fast-paced but flawed, while its characters are likable but severely underdeveloped; and to top it off, the game is criminally short. The sequel, on the other hand, has a much more detailed (and darker) plot, more characters with more interplay among themselves, a relatively revised battle system and a longer campaign. To this day, Arc the Lad II is considered to be the apex of the series, and all games that came after are generally agreed to have failed to live up to it. As for the first, fans usually recommend it on the grounds of "well, it's the first in the series... also, it's a prequel to the second one".
  • The original Warcraft was an unimaginative Real Time Strategy with two cosmetically-different sides and little backstory. This is justified because the people at Blizzard had a contract with Games Workshop on making a Warhammer Fantasy game. When the contract fell through, they decided to release the game anyway under a slightly-different name (that's why Warcraft has green orcs). Then came Warcraft II, still with very similar sides (except for mage spells and archer enhancements) but a fairly well-developed backstory. Along with Dune II, Warcraft II is considered to be one of the progenitors of the Real Time Strategy genre. Warcraft III has 4 very different sides and an even richer backstory, the success of which prompted Blizzard to make the most successful MMORPG in history.
  • Mario Party 9 is this among many people. The series had a total off 10 parties before the 9th installment (8 of them going from the N64, to Gamecube, and the Wii while the other two were on the GBA and DS) and the most common complaint where how the games were more about luck than skill and how each game was just a rehash from the last game. The 9th installment changes up a ton of things to make the games a bit more fair by greatly reducing the amount of luck based events, scrapping the coins, stars, and items system for a mini-star system that allows players to collect them very frequently or lose them just as fast so games are more close, and the mechanic of all players moving on the board at once creates new strategies in turn order and what types of dice blocks you should use. Of course, people who grew up with the series may not like the new direction of the 9th party.

Webcomics

  • The "sillies" that run alongside Ctrl+Alt+Del have fewer panels (so the punchline comes at the end), stylised art (a complete lack of B^U) and a steadily rotating roster of secondary characters including the Grim Reaper. On the other hand, they don't have a set schedule.
  • Platypus Comix's "2008 Character Strike" series brought some comics that relied heavily on old material, as well as a simplistic Family Guy parody. These provided a few giggles, but not enough to hide the fact these ranked among the cheapest stories at the website. Then, the Head Executive decided to hire Spider-Man to replace the usual characters, resulting in "True Believers". Released a few weeks after Marvel's polarizing One More Day, "True Believers" sent Spidey and Mary Jane Watson on a suspenseful, emotionally-driven adventure to prevent Joe Quesadilla from forcefully ending their contented and iconic marriage. Peter Paltridge went on to declare this one of the two best comics he ever wrote.

Western Animation

  • The early proto-Bugs Bunny short "Elmer's Candid Camera" was a total disaster, suffering from poor characterization, mediocre gags and positively abysmal timing and pacing, and as such received such bashing from Chuck Jones, the director of the short, in his autobiography. Tex Avery learned from Chuck's mistakes, and promptly remade the cartoon as the first real Bugs Bunny cartoon "A Wild Hare".
  • My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Thanks to Lauren Faust's genius, this show has managed to spread like wildfire on the Internet for having reasonably well-developed characters and stories in a series often dismissed as being a shallow 30-minute commercial for girls' toys.
  • All of the Tom and Jerry movies from The Magic Ring onwards.
  1. Over 100 characters from both sides as of Dynasty Warriors 7 and Samurai Warriors 3, along with guest appearances from other famous Tecmo and Koei games such as Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, and Bladestorm