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* ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'' is built around one, as explained by Dumbledore in book six. Voldemort hears half of a prophecy about a boy about to be born who will be his nemesis. With two possible choices, he chooses Harry, but in the process of trying to kill him, gives him both the power to defy him and a reason to. What's the best way to turn an otherwise unimportant young wizard into your mortal enemy who's well-equipped to defeat you? Well, murdering his parents and spending the better part of a decade sticking him in convoluted death traps is not a bad start.
** What's more, Dumbledore hints that not all prophecies have to be fulfilled. The only reason Harry is going to fulfill the prophecy is because [[The Unchosen One|he would never rest until Voldemort was dead]], and the same goes for Voldemort. The only way to avoid it coming true is if they both stop, which certainly won't happen.
** Worth noting, the prophecy only actually says that one of the two (Voldemort, Harry) will kill the other. Since Harry was a baby at the time Voldemort heard it, striking immediately seemed to make sense. Voldy really should have put more thought into it, though.
** So to play it out: prophecy made. Whether Voldemort, Harry, and Neville ever hear it or learn of it, Voldemort will still be the evil wizard of the century, and both of the boys will have strong anti-Voldemort backgrounds—Neville will have dead Auror parents, and Harry might get to keep his. Harry has very talented parents so he might posses the properties to make a great wizard. It is likely that at least Harry becomes an active member of the resistance as they grow up, and there will come a time when Voldemort will want to get rid of him. They battle, and the first move Voldemort makes against Harry marks him as [[The Chosen One]]. Voldemort is temporarily defeated (or at least gets some kickback) and casts his murder intentions in iron. Fight to death is inevitable. Of course, Voldemort might choose Neville as well, in which case he would also gain the powers to defeat Voldemort despite his apparently weaker natural talent. So even if no one had ever heard of the prophecy, the prophecy would have been fulfilled. In that case, it's more of a [[Morton's Fork]] than a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.
*** Neville's parents would have also been alive, since the Longbottoms also went into hiding after Dumbledore told them about the prophecy, so Neville would still have them, and the Longbottoms were also said to be two intelligent and powerful wizards. Also, Neville's apparently weaker talent in the books only comes from the combination of his lack of self-confidence (brought on by his grandmother always comparing him to his father) and his use of a wand that is not attuned to him (which is several times said to be not good because if the wand doesn't accept the wizard or witch, it will work badly).
*** Also, I think you're missing the part about Lily's sacrifice being Harry's protection.
** Played for laughs with some of Trelawney's "predictions". The first time we see her, she asks Neville to use one of the blue cups for tea-leaves-reading after he breaks his first one. Neville, already nervous at the best of time, promptly breaks the first cup he uses. She ends the lesson by telling him he'll be late next time, "so mind you work extra hard to catch up". Hermione believes this is why people die when they see "the Grim".
* In ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' series Mat learns he would marry the Daughter of the Nine Moons. Much later, she comes across him trying to flee from a city and has to be tied up. When Mat finds out what she is, having already learned the hard way that [[You Can't Fight Fate]], he changes his mind about hiding her in the lofts and kidnaps her instead. And much later, {{spoiler|Tuon only completes the marriage ceremony Mat accidentally started because of the marriage prophecy ''she'' got}}.