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{{quote|''"The fact that we exist is proof that God is motivated to act in some way. And since only the challenge of self-destruction could interest an omnipotent God, it stands to reason that we . . . are [[Title Drop|God’s debris]]."''|'''Scott Adams''', |''[[GodsGod's Debris]]''}}
 
[[Pandeism]] is a theological theory which proposes that a god created the Universe by ''becoming'' the Universe. This god currently exists as an unconscious force sustaining the Universe. Various explanations have been introduced as to why this happened, mostly revolving around the creator needing to learn something through the human experience, or perhaps wishing to experience nonexistence itself. The latter is the device used in Scott Adams' book ''[[GodsGod's Debris]]''. Variations also speculate as to our purpose, and whether the creator will ever go back to being what it was before, and whether we will have a part in that.
 
This position is arrived at through the combination of [[Deism]] (the archetype for [[Have You Seen My God?]]) and [[Pantheism]] (the same for [[Pieces of God]]).
 
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* Pandeism@Everything2.com -- [http://everything2.com/title/Pandeism Pandeism at Everything2.com]
* The official [[YouTube]] [[Pandeism]] Channel -- http://www.youtube.com/user/PanDeism Pandeism Channel]
* AtThe the[[Wiki ''other''Rule]] otheris Wikiin --play [http://pandeism.wikia.com/wiki/Pandeism_Wiki at Wikia, of course]
* Still another Wiki -- [http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Pandeism And another Wiki]
 
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'': {{spoiler|Madoka erases herself from existence in order to become an eternal embodiment of hope for the universe. She still appears to be conscious, however.}}
** Altered in the movie, where {{spoiler|her consciousness and existence as a mortal is separated from the embodiment of hope.}}
 
== [[Film]] ==
* ''[[The Fountain]]'' somewhat inaccurately characterizes [[Mayincatec]] mythology as "First Father sacrificed himself for the Tree of Life," and so in essence became the world.
 
== [[Literature]] ==
* Scott Adams' "''[[GodsGod's Debris]]"'' uses this trope and posits that the creator is wishing to experience nonexistence itself.
* ''The Survivors'', a 1976 novel by Simon Raven, features a character with this belief. One character observes, "God became the universe. Therefore the universe is God." while the other counters "In becoming the universe God abdicated. He destroyed himself as God. He turned what he had been, his true self, into nullity and thereby forfeited the Godlike qualities which pertained to him. The universe which he has become is also his grave. He has no control in it or over it. God, as God, is dead."
* Critic Dan Schneider suggests this theory to be the one at work in [[Robert A. Heinlein]]'s ''[[Stranger in Aa Strange Land]]'', as the basis of Valentine Michael Smith's created religion.
* This is how universes are created in [[Alan Dean Foster]]'s ''Glory Lane''. A god-like being commits suicide which creates another universe with another godlike being made of dark matter who commits suicide again, creating another universe and another god-like dark matter being and so-on ad infinitum.
* The [[Jack Kerouac]] novel ''Desolation Angels'' comments about how we are bits of a Universe which decided to become us and then forget it had become us: "And you have been forever, and will be forever, and all the worrisome smashings of your foot on innocent cupboard doors it was only the Void pretending to be a man pretending not to know the Void...."
* [[Alfred Tennyson]] personally identified as a Pandeist, and this theological underpinning influenced much of his nature poetry.
* [[Jorge Luis Borges]] hints this way in "[[TlonTlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius]]", and moreso in "Otras inquisiciones" (1952): “El tiempo es la sustancia de que estoy hecho. El tiempo es un río que me arrebata, pero yo soy el río; es un tigre que me destroza, pero yo soy el tigre; es un fuego que me consume, pero yo soy el fuego. El ‘mundo, desgraciadamente, es real; yo, desgraciada­mente, soy Borges.” (** “Time is the substance from which I am made. Time is a river which carries me along, but I am the river; it is a tiger that devours me, but I am the tiger; it is a fire that consumes me, but I am the fire. The 'world, unfortunately, is real, I, unfortunately, am Borges.”)
** Borges wrote sympathetically of Philipp Mainländer: "Like me, he was an impassioned reader of Schopenhauer, under whose influence (and perhaps under the influence of the Gnostics) he imagined that we are fragments of a God who destroyed Himself at the beginning of time, because He did not wish to exist. Universal history is the obscure agony of those fragments."
 
== Music[[Live-Action TV]] ==
* [[Pain of Salvation]]'s album ''Be'' has this as its setup.
 
== Mythology ==
* YMMV, but the Pangu myth in Chinese tradition may qualify. Pangu is a human man born in nothing ness, and he separated the sky and the earth, then died, and his body parts became everything on the world.
* Some Pandeists find pandeistic language in certain passages of [[The Bible]]
 
== Live Action TV ==
* The Minbari religion from ''[[Babylon 5]]'' can be summarized as this. In one episode, Delann describes it thusly:
** "We believe that the Universe itself is conscious in a way we can never truly understand; it is engaged in a search for meaning, so it breaks itself apart, investing its own consciousness in every form of life. We are the Universe trying to understand itself."
 
== [[Real LifeMusic]] ==
* [[Pain of Salvation]]'s album ''Be'' has this as its setup.
* Some expressions of [[Hinduism]] delve in this direction, tho this is most often through Western interpretation of Hindu doctrine.
 
* NASA astrophysicist Bernard Haisch proposes a theological model in his book [[The God Theory]] which has an infinite God becoming an infinite number of Universes to actualise its experience of all forms of existence; human consciousness is simply a filtered fragment of the now-sublimated consciousness of this God.
== [[Oral Tradition]], Folklore, Myths and Legends ==
* Literal, self-proclaimed pandeists.
* [[YMMV]], but the Pangu myth in Chinese tradition may qualify. Pangu is a human man born in nothing nessnothingness, and he separated the sky and the earth, then died, and his body parts became everything on the world.
* Some Pandeists find pandeistic language in certain passages of [[The Bible]]{{context}}
 
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
* This is one of the possible explanations as to why there is a [[Devil but No God]] in [[In Nomine]].
 
=== Tropes ===
* [[Above Good and Evil]] : This creator may have no knowledge of good or evil going into the creation; acquiring such knowledge may even be the purpose of the creation.
* [[All Myths Are True]] : Not necessarily ''true'' but at least ''explained'' as manifestations of the unconscious mind of God underlying everything.
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* [[Your Mind Makes It Real]] : Miracles, seemingly answered prayers, and revelations occur across multiple faiths because the Universe-creating entity has become us (and the rest of the Universe) and believers in any religion are able to unwittingly tap into their own little slice of Creator-power.
 
== [[Real Life]] ==
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* Some expressions of [[Hinduism]] delve in this direction, tho this is most often through Western interpretation of Hindu doctrine.
* Pandeism@Everything2.com -- http://everything2.com/title/Pandeism
* NASA astrophysicist Bernard Haisch proposes a theological model in his book [[The God Theory]] which has an infinite God becoming an infinite number of Universes to actualise its experience of all forms of existence; human consciousness is simply a filtered fragment of the now-sublimated consciousness of this God.
* The official [[YouTube]] [[Pandeism]] Channel -- http://www.youtube.com/user/PanDeism
* Literal, self-proclaimed pandeists.
* At the Other Wiki -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandeism
* At the ''other'' other Wiki -- http://pandeism.wikia.com/wiki/Pandeism_Wiki
* Still another Wiki -- http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Pandeism
 
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