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{{quote|"''[[WWE|Vince McMahon]] did stage his own death a couple of years ago, his limo blew up. How do I know that? I read it in a... in a book somewhere. I wouldn't have known it otherwise.''" [''clears throat'']|'''Chris Cotter''', '''''FOX Business'''''}}
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A trope wherein a character delivers some advice or information relating to a field which it would be incredibly embarrassing or contrary to their public image to know. For instance, [[Awesome McCoolname|Mannfred M. Manly]] informs you on the plot of ''[[My Little Pony]]'', or Chastity McInnocence blurts out directions for Amsterdam's red light district. Whatever the subject and whomever the person, they then try to cover up their association with it by appending "Or So I Heard", "or so I've been told", "I read it in an article", etc.
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Related to [[Suspiciously Specific Denial]] and [[It's for a Book]].
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* [[Detective Conan]] - After giving a lengthy rant on subjects a six year old definitely ''shouldn't'' know about, Conan covers up (or at least, tries to) by saying "At least, [[Taught by Television|that's what it said on TV]]!" (or something similar).
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** Ai used that once in a [[Non-Serial Movie]], too.
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* Tonto says this when he is called out by the Lone Ranger in Dynamyte's comic book series.
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* ''[[Preacher (Comic Book)]]'': Cassidy, the Vampire -- "This gravy tastes like semen.." Seeming to understand the implication of his choice of words hastily adds "Or so I'd imagine". {{spoiler|This becomes a [[Harsher in Hindsight]] moment when Jesse learns more about his friend's history than he'd care to know.}}
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* ''[[Serenity]]'': Inverted during a dialog in the ''[[Firefly]]'' movie.
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* ''[[Discworld/Going Postal|Going Postal]]'' by [[Terry Pratchett]].
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* ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' - During ''The Atomic Brain'', Mike compares a scene to ''[[The Facts of Life]] Go to Europe''. ("Not that I've seen it...")
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** During the opening credits of ''Overdrawn at the Memory Bank'':
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* ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]'': "It's like something out of a German porn film... apparently."
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* ''[[Father Ted]]'': Uses this in one episode, wherein the titular character and his fellow priest, Father Dougal, accidentally find themselves in "Ireland's biggest lingerie section, I understand. Yeah I read that... somewhere." {{spoiler|They then proceed to meet a number of other Priests who have "accidentally" found themselves in the store, and the scene turns into a war film parody as Ted leads the band to escape out the fire exit without anyone noticing half a dozen priests surrounded by ladies' intimate items.}}
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* ''[[Torchwood]]'': uses this in the episode "Sleeper," when the [[Monster of the Week]] comments on Jack's bedside manner, Gwen responds "You should see his manners in bed, they're atrocious. Apparently, so I've heard..."
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* In the ''[[NCIS]]'' episode "Singled Out", McGee describes a speed dating service as "designed to introduce successful men to a wide assortment of eligible women. Each night brings the promise of romance and the chance of finding your soul mate." His team mates look at him questioningly and he hurriedly adds "... or so I've heard."
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* ''[[Bones]]'': Not referring to a work of fiction specifically, but does reference this.
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{{quote|'''[[No Social Skills|Booth]]''': Yeah, well, a woman finds out a man is cheating on her, she can get really angry. ''(Others stare at him)'' That's what I heard, okay?}}
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* Detective Beckett in ''[[Castle]]'' says this after making reference to ''[[Showgirls]]''.
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** Alexis also does this when speaking about a specific scene from a horror movie she's not supposed to have seen, fairly unsubtly.
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{{quote|'''Alexis:''' If I'd seen it, which I haven't.}}
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** Even Castle himself does this once, regarding a phone sex line:
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'''Castle''': It's therapy. ''[[Beat]]'' Or... so I've been told. }}
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* On an episode of ''[[Law and Order]]'', Briscoe tells Curtis about a dockside location where detectives in the old days would go to [[Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique|waterboard difficult suspects]]. He immediately follows up with "or so I've heard."
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** In ''Boy Gone Astray'' an ex-boyfriend of ADA Connie Rubrirosa tells her and her boss information on various drug cartels. Quickly adding "So I hear" after each piece of information.
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* ''Cops L.A.C'':,<ref>The Australian police drama, not related to ''[[COPS (series)|COPS]]'', the American [[Reality TV]] show.</ref> the detectives find a flyer for Romnett in a murder victim's house. A junior officer standing nearby tells them it's an internet dating site, "I've been told."
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'''Neal:''' And who knows what else, because I have never considered stealing gems in Burma. }}
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* ''[[MASH]]'':
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* One character on ''[[Little Britain]]'' is a retired actor who always steals his sister's Meals on Wheels dinners. He is very bad at hiding at, as he tends to praise the meals to the delivery boy's face, adding "Kitty said," when he realises he's almost given himself away.
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* ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]]'' Season 12 Episode 9:
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{{quote|'''Pharmacy employee''': He looked a little young for a penis pump.
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'''Detective Fin Tutuola''': One of those vacuum tube things they sell on the back of magazines to make you bigger... ''(seeing Stabler's smirk)'' or so I've heard. }}
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* In a ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' sketch about Nazis hiding in England:
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* During the opening of one episode of ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', Colbert gives "a shout-out to all of my [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|Bronies]]", followed by an insincere "And I do want to reiterate that I do not know what that means."
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* The Devil in ''[[Old Harry's Game]]'' does this whenever he is describing one of his own deeds while disguised as a mortal.
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* In an episode of ''[[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue]]'', the panellists are playing a game based on ''Who Wants To Be A Millionaire''...except all about hats.
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* ''[[Ace Attorney]]'': There's a running joke that Miles Edgeworth is a big fan of the tokusatsu [[Show Within a Show]] ''Steel Samurai'', although he [[Closet Geek|tries to distance himself from it]]. He invokes Or So I Heard a lot when {{spoiler|the Steel Samurai and company becomes a major part of the final case of ''[[Ace Attorney Investigations]]''.}}
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* Optional dialogue in ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' between Mordin and a krogan scientist. {{spoiler|The real kicker is that Mordin actually did make the krogans more infertile by upgrading the genophage when it started to look like the krogans were recovering.}}
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* [http://starship.slipshine.net/loserz/go/189 This strip] from ''[[Loserz]]''.
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{{quote|Cuz that's when you black out and come to stark '''naked'' with your ankles behind your head and some guy you don't even know licking your asshole...or so I hear.}}
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* [http://www.itswalky.com/d/20000717.html This strip] from ''It's Walky''.
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* ''Shabot6000'' asked [http://www.shabot6000.com/2004/03/kosher-bacos.html about Kosher Bacos]:
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{{quote|'''Rabbi''': They don't taste like ''real bacon''! ...or so I've been told.}}
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* ''[[Buck Godot: Zap Gun for Hire]]'': [http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20080527 "Gosh... That could explain... (beat) Uh... All sorts of things. That I've heard. From other people."]
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* [[Most Definitely Not a Villain|Most Definitely Not Ferretina]] in ''[[Girl Genius]]'' side story, [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070914 on giant rabbits].
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* [http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=229 Big Boss] remembers The End in ''[[The Last Days of Foxhound]]''.
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* [http://stummervogel.deviantart.com/art/Too-much-information-109154598 This] comic based on ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Abridged Series|Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series]]''.
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* [[Tim Minchin]] tells of a time when he caught Mariah Carey lipsynching.
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* ''[[South Park]]'' episode "The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers" plays this for laughs; all the men in town only have to hear the title "Backdoor Sluts 9" and they all know exactly which porn it is.
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'''Mrs. Brovloski''': And how do ''you'' know?
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'''Mr. Brovloski''': I, uh, read about it in People. }}
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* ''[[The Fairly OddParents]]'': When Wanda takes over [[The Family for the Whole Family|her father's business]], she put a ficus in the meeting room. One of the men comments on a gardening tip for it, then quickly invokes this trope when the others stare at him surprised.
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{{quote|"The soup tasted the way I imagine packet soups would taste."}}
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"Vince McMahon did stage his own death a couple of years ago, his limo blew up. How do I know that? I read it in a... in a book somewhere. I wouldn't have known it otherwise." [clears throat]
Chris Cotter, FOX Business

A trope wherein a character delivers some advice or information relating to a field which it would be incredibly embarrassing or contrary to their public image to know. For instance, Mannfred M. Manly informs you on the plot of My Little Pony, or Chastity McInnocence blurts out directions for Amsterdam's red light district. Whatever the subject and whomever the person, they then try to cover up their association with it by appending "Or So I Heard", "or so I've been told", "I read it in an article", etc.

Related to Suspiciously Specific Denial and It's for a Book.

Examples of Or So I Heard include:

Anime and Manga


Comics

  • Tonto says this when he is called out by the Lone Ranger in Dynamyte's comic book series.
  • Preacher (Comic Book): Cassidy, the Vampire -- "This gravy tastes like semen.." Seeming to understand the implication of his choice of words hastily adds "Or so I'd imagine". This becomes a Harsher in Hindsight moment when Jesse learns more about his friend's history than he'd care to know.


Film

Sister Mary Lazarus: Id rather sing than do anything.
Sister Mary Patrick: It’s better than ice cream!
Sister Mary Lazarus: It’s better than springtime!
Deloris (as Sister Mary Clarence): It’s Better Than Sex. [[[Beat]]]. No, no, I’ve heard.

Mal: "Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint."


Literature

"They're the very devil to forge, I know that," said Moist. "Or so I've been told," he added quickly.

Live Action TV

Crow: "Wanda Cannon"? That's a porno name if I've ever heard one!...Not that I've ever heard one. I don't subscribe to lots of publications or anything.

  • Ashes to Ashes: "It's like something out of a German porn film... apparently."
  • Father Ted: Uses this in one episode, wherein the titular character and his fellow priest, Father Dougal, accidentally find themselves in "Ireland's biggest lingerie section, I understand. Yeah I read that... somewhere." They then proceed to meet a number of other Priests who have "accidentally" found themselves in the store, and the scene turns into a war film parody as Ted leads the band to escape out the fire exit without anyone noticing half a dozen priests surrounded by ladies' intimate items.
  • Torchwood: uses this in the episode "Sleeper," when the Monster of the Week comments on Jack's bedside manner, Gwen responds "You should see his manners in bed, they're atrocious. Apparently, so I've heard..."

Ianto: Oh, they are. I remember this one time -
Jack: (coughs loudly)

  • In the NCIS episode "Singled Out", McGee describes a speed dating service as "designed to introduce successful men to a wide assortment of eligible women. Each night brings the promise of romance and the chance of finding your soul mate." His team mates look at him questioningly and he hurriedly adds "... or so I've heard."
  • Bones: Not referring to a work of fiction specifically, but does reference this.

Booth: Yeah, well, a woman finds out a man is cheating on her, she can get really angry. (Others stare at him) That's what I heard, okay?

  • Detective Beckett in Castle says this after making reference to Showgirls.
    • Alexis also does this when speaking about a specific scene from a horror movie she's not supposed to have seen, fairly unsubtly.

Alexis: If I'd seen it, which I haven't.

    • Even Castle himself does this once, regarding a phone sex line:

The phone sex line dispatcher: It's not just about the sex. That's the part of this business most people don't understand. Guys call, girls call; they're looking for release. Sometimes, that release is sexual, but sometimes...
Castle: It's therapy. Beat Or... so I've been told.

  • On an episode of Law and Order, Briscoe tells Curtis about a dockside location where detectives in the old days would go to waterboard difficult suspects. He immediately follows up with "or so I've heard."
    • In Boy Gone Astray an ex-boyfriend of ADA Connie Rubrirosa tells her and her boss information on various drug cartels. Quickly adding "So I hear" after each piece of information.
  • Cops L.A.C:,[1] the detectives find a flyer for Romnett in a murder victim's house. A junior officer standing nearby tells them it's an internet dating site, "I've been told."
  • White Collar:

Neal: You'd need some muscle, a cargo plane, and a few grand in bribe money just to get started.
Peter: You would?
Neal: And who knows what else, because I have never considered stealing gems in Burma.

Klinger: I get my lingerie from Chicago.
Trapper: And it's beautiful . . . I hear.

  • One character on Little Britain is a retired actor who always steals his sister's Meals on Wheels dinners. He is very bad at hiding at, as he tends to praise the meals to the delivery boy's face, adding "Kitty said," when he realises he's almost given himself away.
  • Law and Order Special Victims Unit Season 12 Episode 9:

Pharmacy employee: He looked a little young for a penis pump.
Detective Fin Tutuola: One of those vacuum tube things they sell on the back of magazines to make you bigger... (seeing Stabler's smirk) or so I've heard.

Landlady: This is Ron Vibbentrop.
Mr Johnson: Oh, not Von Ribbentrop, eh?
"Ron Vibbentrop": (shouting) Nein! Nein! (calms down) Oh. Ha ha. Different other chap. I in Somerset am being born. Von Ribbentrop is born Gotterdammerstrasse 46, Dusseldorf Vest 8... so they say!

  • During the opening of one episode of The Colbert Report, Colbert gives "a shout-out to all of my Bronies", followed by an insincere "And I do want to reiterate that I do not know what that means."


Radio

  • The Devil in Old Harry's Game does this whenever he is describing one of his own deeds while disguised as a mortal.
  • In an episode of I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, the panellists are playing a game based on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire...except all about hats.

Humph: Who is the odd one out of Henry Ford, Fred Astaire, Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln? ...I'm sorry, Tim, the answer is Henry Ford. His hat size was six-and-seven-eights, and the others were all seven-and-one-eighths. And I have to tell you that these are all true, I don't believe this--six-and-seven-eights?
Tim: That's tiny! That's a schoolboy's size! ...I'm told.


Video Games

  • Ace Attorney: There's a running joke that Miles Edgeworth is a big fan of the tokusatsu Show Within a Show Steel Samurai, although he tries to distance himself from it. He invokes Or So I Heard a lot when the Steel Samurai and company becomes a major part of the final case of Ace Attorney Investigations.
  • Optional dialogue in Mass Effect 2 between Mordin and a krogan scientist. The real kicker is that Mordin actually did make the krogans more infertile by upgrading the genophage when it started to look like the krogans were recovering.

Mordin: Salarians created genophage - I've heard. Still trust them with medicines and agriculture?
Fortack: Yeah, yeah, what else can the salarians can do to us at this point? It's not like they can make us even more infertile. Actually, wait, forget I said anything.


Webcomics

Cuz that's when you black out and come to stark 'naked with your ankles behind your head and some guy you don't even know licking your asshole...or so I hear.

It's not as good since Brock left. At least that's what Walkerton tells me.

Rabbi: They don't taste like real bacon! ...or so I've been told.

Web Original

Tim Minchin: All of a sudden the magic that is Mariah Carey is gone. It's like watching a cheap drag show, but without the intrigue of transvestism. [pause] To my knowledge.

207. The Chicken and Rice MRE is *not* a personal lubricant. (Skippy wanted this noted for the record that this is not something he has ever attempted or considered! It was something we heard at dinner on 22 September 2001 and it was just so obscene it had to go here.)
209. An airsickness bag is to be used for airsickness *only*. (Also not a Skippy-ism...this was the same dinner.)


Western Animation

  • South Park episode "The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers" plays this for laughs; all the men in town only have to hear the title "Backdoor Sluts 9" and they all know exactly which porn it is.

Mr. Stotch: Backdoor Sluts 9 makes Crotch Capers 3 look like Naughty Nurses 2!
Mr. Brovloski: It is the most depraved, vile porno ever made...
Mrs. Brovloski: And how do you know?
Mr. Brovloski: I, uh, read about it in People.

  • The Fairly OddParents: When Wanda takes over her father's business, she put a ficus in the meeting room. One of the men comments on a gardening tip for it, then quickly invokes this trope when the others stare at him surprised.

"A ficus? That's gonna need more light... not that, I would know."


Real Life

  • Actual quote from a review by Germany's leading culinary critic Wolfram Siebeck:

"The soup tasted the way I imagine packet soups would taste."

  • Sometimes, this can happen when trying to teach Martial Arts to others.

"Yeah, if you cut the quadriceps right here, the other guy will drop like a rock."
"... Not that I would know personally, though."

  1. The Australian police drama, not related to COPS, the American Reality TV show.