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== Princess Celestia ==
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** Princess Solara?
** Soleil?
** [[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 (video game)||Soleanna]]? Oh god no...
** But "Celestia" is already a reference to the sun. Hell, it's one letter away from simply meaning "Of the sun."
*** As mentioned below, Celestia comes from the Latin word "caelestis", which is an adjective that means "heavenly" or "of the sky" (Sky/Heaven = caelum in Latin); it's very commonly used of Graeco-Roman divinities for obvious reasons. So Celestia's name is very appropriate given her realm of influence, benevolence, beauty and semi-divinity.
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* That would leave us with three winged unicorns - one in charge of the day, one in charge of the night, and Twilight [[Meaningful Name|in charge of the time between.]]
** Or maybe ''stars?'' --[[Oh Shit]], what does that mean for the stars that freed NMM?
* One of the animators of the show [https://web.archive.org/web/20110825025510/http://princesschuchi.deviantart.com/art/Princess-Twilight-Sparkle-188140855 has her own take.]
** Well, her name is ''Twilight'' Sparkle. Some significance maybe?
*** Magical daughter of Luna and Celestia? (Twilight is halfway between Day and Night after all)
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== Princess Celestia is actually Amaterasu in a horse incarnation ==
Princess C controls the sun, and her servants directly manipulate the plants, weather, animals, and seasons. In [[Okami]], Amaterasu was shown to be able to do most if not all these things. They are also both female, white with physical characteristic unlike regular versions of their species, and act as rulers, either as goddess or princess. They even look kind of alike, if you replace Amaterasu's fire with a rainbow, as seen here [https://web.archive.org/web/20141102133805/http://angrybeegaming.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/okami-the-movie-20070112041935217.jpg\] and here [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101202132554/mylittleponyhub/images/4/4d/PrincessCelestia.png\]{{Dead link}}
* Horses are also sacred to Amaterasu. I mean the real mythological one, not the video game one.
* There is also Kazegami, the god of wind, who is a part of game!Amaterasu and is a horse.
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* Another alternative: Maybe Celestia combines ''all'' elements, but that wasn't always the case. Think of it: It is true that she embodies Laughter, but she also embodies Loyalty, Honesty, Kindness and Generosity. Maybe if someone who is a Wielder of an Element dies, his or her personality doesn't just vanish, but somehow "merges" with the personalities of her friends. In the end, when only one body remains, we have the "souls" of all wielders united as one person, in one body, who then ascends to the semi-Godhood of a Pegasus Unicorn form. This would also prevent the [[Unfortunate Implications]] of [[Who Wants to Live Forever?]] and of Celestia having outlived all her friends: she hasn't, they're always present within her, as a part of her. Also, one might consider the possibility that Celestia and her friends never had the sixth element. It was hidden as a spark within Twilight after all. So, in her, the personalities of only five wielders are united. If this happens to the wielders of all six elements, the result will be a ''literal'' Goddess. (Or something like that.)
** Or perhaps she ''does'' embody all six and is attempting to create another goddess, as in the Mane cast are being set up so they'll merge.
** Has anyone written a fanfic like that? Because I'm getting the urge to write a [[Death Fic]] with a "happy" ending for [[Bittersweet (Fanficfanfic)|some reason]].
** There's a pair of stories where an Evil!Twilight, at Evil!Celestia's urging, attempts to kill off all the other bearers so she can take over their elements, but I've never seen one that took a "happy" spin on the concept.
** Funny, I always got the idea that Celestia could use all the Elements of Harmony singlehandely, if not with the same might, thanks to be a god. And that's why she could only seal Nightmare Moon in to the moon instead of completely reforming her sister.
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Remember the [[Justice League (animation)|world made of cardboard]]? Celestia is that powerful. If her attack was too strong, it would have destroyed Canterlot Castle and killed everypony inside. She believes that her own defeat with little destruction will be preferable to defeating Chrysalis with massive destruction. This will probably lead to an [[I Am Not Left-Handed]] moment where she does unleash her full power out of sheer desperation.
** Alternately, the Beam was a telekinetic desperation attack. Celestia's [[Power Of The Sun|sun-based powers]] are more likely the [[Death From Above]] / [[Kill Sat]] type, using those indoors is out. She probably could just teleport Chrysalis to the Sun, but with Shining Armour in play she would need her full attention for that. She was trying to overpower Chrysalis for long enough to cast something nasty and underestimated the boost from [[The Power of Love]].
** The season 4 finale finally shows us a full-power alicorn combat, and it involved monsters getting punched lengthwise through mountain ranges and mushroom clouds large enough to be mistaken for H-bombs. The theory that Celestia was holding back because she didn't want to kill everypony in the room is pretty much confirmed at this point.
 
== Princess Celestia is the [[Parody Religion|Invisible Pink Unicorn]] ==
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== Celestia and Luna are refered to as Princesses because they actually are Princesses. ==
It's not just because girl focused cartoons generally have princesses instead of queens, it's because these two [[Physical God|physical Gods]]s, while ruling the kingdom, are still relatively lower ranking members of the local pantheon. The king and queen (or kings or queens) are either their parents or grandparents depending on how old they are and how high up they are on the Pantheon's food chain, are the creator gods, and, as this is a Hasbro property, may be this universe's manifestation of Primus and Unicron.
* So the Creator Ponies are this universe's incarnation of the [[Cain and Abel|two eternally fighting brother entities]]. [[Fridge Logic|Wait...]] So Mom and Dad [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|fight a lot]] before [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|going to their room to "rest" for a few hours]]?
* It seems that with the mythology theme pervading the series the creator gods are probably equine versions of [[Greek Mythology|Gaia and Oranos]].
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* Or it could be a buffer from Celestia to maintain her humbleness. While she is a God and quite likely the mightiest being in the Verse (probably second to old Luna [she ''did'' need the elements of Harmony to defeat her]), she realized that even a God can become drunk with power and adoration or the lack of it. So she declared herself a princess, ''a power to be'' instead of a Queen/Empress, who already has absolute power and created the entire Monarchy to divide ruling and responsibility and to mantain a tight check in her ever since.
* Or it could be the obvious: Equestria is a principality, and who rules those if they're female?
* Celestia and Luna are the princesses, [http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/2d2b1d850a94b5218083f874ad0170ef/72960%20-%20Alicorn%20armor%20artist%3Aequestria-prevails%20Faust_Empress%20Goddess_Empress_Of_Ponykind%20god_emperor%20god_empress%20lauren_faust%20lauren_faust_is_best_pony%20mother_mare%20oc%20ponyhammer%20Ponyhammer_40k%20the_queen%20warhammer_40k%20Warhammer_40000.png Faust is the Empress]{{Dead link}}
 
== A twofer: Luna and Celestia aren't ponies, but horses; horses are basically "cave ponies." ==
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I realise quite a few fans would ''slay'' me for suggesting such a thing, but just hear me out. Think about how they make use of titles like "Princess"; regardless of their internal reasoning for doing so, such a title still implies a dynastic succession of monarchs, something which can really only happen if said monarchs are capable of dying (okay, I guess you could suggest that Celestia and Luna's parents simply stepped down or something, but where would they be now in that case? would we be expected to believe that the geriatric old King and Queen are rotting away in some isolated castle chamber?). I think it's entirely possible to assume that the Princesses, and by extension, all Equestrian monarchs, are something more akin to [[The Lord of the Rings|Tolkien's]] elves-- "enlightened" beings who wield extraordinary arcane powers and cannot die of old age, but are still vulnerable to disease, weapons, [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|growing weary of life]], etc...that said, the suggestion is not that they're any less powerful in terms of the things they can do-- merely that they are not one-of-a-kind, probably have parents who met some unfortunate end in the very distant past (remember, in the story told in the pilot, Celestia and Luna were already in charge a thousand years ago), and are only immortal in the sense that they cannot die of natural causes.
* Possibly supported by the outcome of Celestia's fight against {{spoiler|the Changeling queen}} in the second part of "A Canterlot Wedding": {{spoiler|Celestia ''loses'' against an enemy who's clearly just about as surprised as she is}}.
* They may not be ''all''-powerful but they are clearly ''very'' powerful. We finally see an alicorn-level fight in the season 4 finale (Princess Twilight Sparkle wielding the combined power of all four royal alicorns vs. Tirek), and it looked like something straight out of Dragon Ball Z. They were literally ''punching each other through mountain ranges''.
 
== The Reason We Never See Celestia and Luna's Parents is because of Copyright Laws (spoilers for [[YU+ME: dream]]) ==
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== The Princesses came into being from ponykind's belief in them. ==
"Hearth's Warming Eve" shows the ponies of the newly founded Equestria putting up a flag depicting Celestia and Luna, even though the events described took place long before their reign. The Princesses - being a combination of unicorns, pegasi and earth ponies - were originally merely a symbol for the unity of the three pony races. As time went on, ponies formed a mythology around them and began to worship their image as deities. Eventually, the Princesses became [[Physical GodsGod]]s due to the principle of [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe]], saved Equestria from Discord and became its rulers.
** Alternately, they came into being ''during'' Discord's reign. As things were hopeless, they turned to their deities, or possibly just refused to give up or the like. Their hope and unity united into a form they'd all agreed on to represent it, Celestia and Luna.
 
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In both universes, it's visible form consists of black/dark purple blobs. It can take a story's minor protagonist and make ''her'' disappear from the plot altogether, making her the [[MacGuffin]] (like Princess Celestia, or [http://alanwake.wikia.com/wiki/Alice_Wake Alice Wake]). Luna has the power to bring eternal night, and Nightmare Moon!Luna plans to do so (unlike Normal!Luna).
 
Nightmare Moon!Luna is able to a) manipulate wild animals' behaviours (through a possible array of factors, such as the thorn), b) destroy bridges (seriously, the DP always destroys ''bridges'') through levitation, c) play mind-whammy on characters to make them budge (the trees with the scary faces), and most importantly d) can probably 'take' characters, can teleport them to the scene (like regular Taken ([https://web.archive.org/web/20130619193530/http://alanwake.wikia.com/wiki/Nurse_Birch Nurse Birch]), only this time it was done with the "Shadowbolts", who may or may not have been an actual stunt-flying group before being taken) and use them as marionettes (like [http://alanwake.wikia.com/wiki/Rose_Marigold Rose Marigold]), and Luna can be 'exorcised' from her possession by an intensive and bright source of light and colour (Friendship-Magic, in this case. Perhaps a [[Flare Gun]] would have done it too).
 
That she didn't carry away any permanent damages of sanity after said possession can be explained by the fact that the DP only 'touched' her (just like [[Alan Wake/Characters|Alan Wake]]), which means that it was able to control it's thoughts and perception, but did leave enough liberty for her to use her special ability, this being controlling the night-day cycle (as opposed to Wake's writing talent).
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*** Even though Twilight Sparkle read that Nightmare Moon was the sister of the unicorn that raised the sun, she may very well not have known that Celestia was that unicorn. The book only said that the elder sister "took on responsibility for both sun and moon" and that harmony had been maintained in Equestria for generations. It never said that it was the same pony doing the maintaining.
**** Fair enough. Also, this sort of supports my overall point.
* You're just being ridiculous. They don't even look alike. An entire crowd of ponies saw Nightmare Moon in Ponyville, and every single one of these eyewitnesses described Nightmare Moon as a large alicorn, about the same size as Her Divine Majesty, Princess Celestia, with a black coat and a mane of and tail of some sort of dark, shadowy aura. Princess Luna is only about half the size of her sister, and has a purple coat with a mane and tail of dark blue hair. [http://images.wikia.com/mlp/images/4/42/Luna.jpg Seriously, they look nothing alike]{{Dead link}}.
 
== Nightmare Moon is magically aged-up version of Luna. ==
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As they are so rare, any time an Alicorn is born, it is taken by the royal family and raised in the palace. Why? Because like how a baby unicorn has little control over it’s telekinetic magic, an Alicorn has little control over it’s [b]EARTH-SHATTERING[/b] magic. It needs to be raised away from the rest of ponykind, first off to control it, secondly to avoid forming emotional bonds with it’s still-mortal parents and siblings, and finally, to figure groom it as a possible heir to the throne. Celestia and Luna are considered “sisters” because Luna was found when Celestia was still a foal. When the two of them matured, all subsequent alicorns viewed the pair as adoptive aunts.
* Alicorns are allowed to marry, but there is a good chance that they are sterile. Prince Bloodblood comes from Celestia’s biological family (they were all unicorns)
** The season 6 premiere is about the birth of Cadance and Shining Armor's daughter, so alicorns definitely aren't sterile. That same premiere also shows that its possible to be ''born'' an alicorn, as Princess Flurry Heart came into the world already with a horn and wings.
 
== Prince Blueblood gets his title from the old Unicornian royalty, not his relation to Celestia ==
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