It's the Same, Now It Sucks: Difference between revisions

* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' had a strip years ago that played with this trope. Jason was tired of waiting for the sequel to ''[[Myst]]'' to come out, so he created his own sequel. He showed his brother his game, "Here's the observatory and here's the library..." and Peter said, "Wait, these are all the same levels of the first game. What makes this different?" The computer then beeped and said, "Warning, [[Everything's Better with Dinosaurs|velociraptor approaching]]." Jason replied, "You have to solve the puzzles a little faster now."

 

* Professional Wrestling fans express this sentiment by chanting "Same Old Shit! Same Old Shit!"

 

*** Let's not. D&D is one of the [[Long Runners]] out there, going on for about four decades by now. In it's time, it has developed considerably and changed hands several times, having once belonged to TSR, then Wizards of the Coast, and finally Hasbro (though they own [[Wot C]], not just the D&D property.) Its has had a [[Broken Base]] which goes rabid every time there is a big change; there were players who reacted with [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]] back when the game transitioned to ''Advanced'' D&D. With the advent of 4th Edition, the base breaking went supernova, with critics claiming the game lost a great deal of flavor because of it's MMO-like mechanics while fans claimed the easier playability, clear focus on balance, and streamlined form made the game much more fun. The previous edition, 3.5, had allowed many third party companies to publish and use much of the intellectual property, including the mechanics, of D&D freely. Paizo released Pathfinder, a re-tooled 3.5 which addressed a lot of the balance issues and improved the mechanics while not resembling 4th Edition. As the product line developed, it began to add many features not seen in 3.5 and develop its own setting into a fully-fledged fantasy world. Some players like it, some don't, and when arguments start expect plenty of flame wars and [[Fan Dumb]]. However, this is all [[Older Than They Think]]; there are players still playing with books which were printed before the Reagan era.

**** *Gasp* and now (january 2012) they announced the 5th edition!

 

== [[Toys]] ==

* The uproar over the story material not being "up to par" aside, when [[LEGO]] discontinued its ''[[Bionicle]]'' setline and launched ''[[Hero Factory]]'' in its place, some complained that the new toys could easily have passed for ''BIONICLE'' sets, as they used the exact same building formulas, only with new parts. The villains especially looked no different than any generic ''BIO'' bad guy. Turns out this was just an "introductory" line, and the following wave drastically redesigned the entire construction of the toys, nearly from scratch.<ref>(Quick note: unlike what a lot of fans think, they didn't cancel ''BIONICLE'' just to bring in ''HF'' -- it would have been ended no matter what, and probably any alternative "replacement" would have also gone through such a phase.)</ref>

 

* ''[[Dragon Quest]]'' has received this complaint at least in the US, which isn't surprising given the conservative nature of the series compared to ''[[Final Fantasy]]''. ''[[Dragon Quest VII]]'', the first post-Super Nintendo installment, was especially bashed for not really pushing forward with the gameplay or the graphics. Since Enix and Square merged, it seems they've been trying to expand the series with more online multiplayer options and with more immersing gameplay, but given the series' huge popularity in Japan it's unlikely they'll experiment with the fundamentals of the series that much.

* ''[[Gears of War]] 2'' had a list of detractors who would frequently say things like "Everything looks the same. The chainsaw bayonet, the roadie-run, the torque bow... they're just remaking the first game." Apparently it was a big enough concern that X-Play's review deliberately said something to the effect of, "This is not Gears 1.5, it is a real sequel." Upon launch, no one has complained that it is just a rehash of the first game, it was much bigger and better.

* ''[[Golden Sun: Dark Dawn]]'' got some of this, with many people complaining that it felt like Camelot stapled the first two games together, without any of their original charm.

* Almost '''any''' FPS out there can suffer from this because they all boil down to the same few things and use the same skills no matter what game it is.

 

* ''[[Zero Punctuation]]'' is starting to come under fire for making "nothing but" poop and dick jokes.

* Some people complain this way about ''[[Survival of the Fittest]]'' V1, V2, and V3, despite the fact that they all have radically different characters and storylines, just because they start from the same basic set up (a bunch of kids get put on an island and forced to kill each other).

 

== [[Western Animation]] ==

** Possibly played straight in the [[Interquel]] graphic novel trilogy, ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender - The Promise]]'', which details Team Avatar's adventures a year after the end of the show. The major conflict seems to be Zuko's temptation to be like his father. [[Heel Face Revolving Door|Again.]]

* There's an in-universe example in the "Mom and Pop Art" episode of ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', where Homer is recognized as an outsider artist after his disastrous attempt for a barbecue pit is misinterpreted as an artistic masterpiece, but this turns out to be just one of his [[Fifteen Minutes of Fame]] when his follow-up works are deemed to be nothing but repetitive.

 

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