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* ''[[Angel Sanctuary]]''. Technically a spoiler, but between the state of Heaven and the [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil]], it's pretty obvious.
* [[Go Nagai]] did this all the time in his works.
** ''[[MaoMaō Dante|Demon Lord Dante]]'' had God be an evil space being who demanded that the humans living on Earth worship him. When they didn't, he torched their cities, inadvertently turning the entire human race into demonic beings by having God's energy merge them with various objects (the main character merges with a jet plane and dinosaurs to turn into a giant demon), and split himself up into pieces and inserted himself into apes, becoming modern man as a result. He further becomes even more of a bastard when it is revealed at the end that the entire war between God and demons was done on purpose [[For the Evulz|just because it was entertaining to him]].
** ''[[Devilman]]'' implies that God exterminated and sealed away demons because he disapproved of the way his first shot at creating life turned out. And he's basically an [[Eldritch Abomination]] [[Brown Note|who the mere sight of]] [[Taken for Granite|turns humans into salt pillars]].
** [[It Gets Worse]] in ''AMON'', where it's revealed that {{spoiler|God has put entire world on a time loop so all humans and demons live and die for nothing over and over, just to make Satan suffer the loss of his beloved repeatedly for all eternity}}. What a ''dick''.
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* Several theological and philosophical concepts involve a belief in an evil, incompetent or indifferent God:
** ''Maltheism'' (from ''mal'', meaning bad/sickness and ''theism'' [[Captain Obvious|meaning theism]]) is the belief that a God or Gods exist, but they are malevolent or incompetent. Few religions have a wholly maltheistic view of the world, though several include maltheistic strands - for example, gods of evil, such as Ate (the Goddess of Evil, Folly, and Destruction) in Hellenistic mythology. Abrahamic belief in the Devil can be seen as a variant - although the exact nature (or even his existence) of the devil is not universally agreed on in Abrahamic theology, he is often construed as a supernatural agency with malicious intentions for humans. A related concept is ''Hypothetical Maltheism'', used as a criticism of religion by agnostics and atheists (see Richard Dawkins quotation below), which holds that, if God exists, he would be unworthy of worship due to the ''[[wikipedia:Problem of evil|Problem of Evil]]'' and ''[[wikipedia:Problem of hell|Problem of Hell]]''. [[Captain Obvious|Unsurprisingly]], [[wikipedia:Problem of hell#Annihilationism|several]] [[wikipedia:Problem of hell#Free will|religious]] [[wikipedia:Problem of hell#Universal reconciliation|responses]] exist to such a line of thought.
{{quote|'''[[Rational WikiRationalWiki]]''': Maltheism is the idea that God...is like a kid who keeps removing pool ladders in [[The Sims]].}}
** ''Misotheism'' ("hatred of Gods") is a related concept to ''Maltheism'', but is more active in its meaning - rather than mere belief in a malevolent God, misotheism is an outright hatred of said God. [[Older Than Feudalism]], maltheistic positions and characters appear in Icelandic sagas and in some Hellenistic sagas. It is distinct from Maltheism in the sense that, whilst Maltheism is the position that God is unworthy of worship, Misotheism is ''active hatred'' for God. Frequently leads to [[Hollywood Atheist|Hollywood atheism]].
{{quote|'''[[Pitch Black|Riddick]]''': I absolutely believe in God...And I absolutely hate the [[Precision F-Strike|f***er]]}}
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{{quote|The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: [[Yandere|jealous and proud of it]]; [[Evil Is Petty|a petty]], [[Disproportionate Retribution|unjust, unforgiving]] [[Control Freak]]; [[A Nazi by Any Other Name|a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser]]; [[Complete Monster|a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.]]}}
* Some modern Jews believe that God is, while not evil per se, at least not wholly good, with the reasoning that a benevolent God would never have allowed [[World War 2|the holocaust]] to happen.
** The film [[God Onon Trial]] portrays a group of Jews at Auschwitz debating this very subject. The trial is not about whether or not God is evil, but whether he is guilty of a breach of contract with regards to his covenant with the Jewish people.
* There's a certain tribe in Africa who believe that their supreme god created humanity because he was bored and wanted something to torture. There's good news, though: you can rebel against him, and in fact it is the right and duty of every human to do so.
 
== Comedy ==
* [[Patton Oswalt]] talks about an Evil God in his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq10bz3PxyY Christmas Shoes] routine. Also one with the [[Jesus Was Way Cool|Jesus isn't evil]] variety.
{{quote|'''God:''' What's this? Someone in a bad mood on my son's birthday? Bullshit! [[Moral Event Horizon|Give that kid's mom cancer!]] Make sure he's in front of him in line, make him seven cents short for the shoes! This guy'll buy them, then he'll be in a good mood!
'''Jesus:''' I don't think we need to give the mother cancer...
'''God:''' You shut the fuck up! This is gonna be the best birthday you ever had! }}
* The late, great [[George Carlin]] also had some choice words concerning the Big Guy Upstairs.
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* The [[Doom Patrol]] once battle a man who claims to be God as well as Jack the Ripper.
* God in [[Chronicles Of Wormwood]] is another example, as He's apparently {{spoiler|[[Mad God|insane]] or severely mentally deficient}}. Also of note: this version of God also seems {{spoiler|to really, really, really love masturbating}}.
* The premise of the post-Rapture graphic novel ''[[Therefore Repent!]]''.
* Eppy Thatcher from ''[[Grendel]]'' subscribes to this trope, and has "God hates me" as his [[Catch Phrase]]. Then again, this is a guy who's so messed up that he believes {{spoiler|he ''killed'' God}} at the end of his run as Grendel.
* [[Darkseid]] of the [[New Gods]] is the "god of evil" and revels in it. He runs a hellish planet dedicated to this with all his lieutenants being other evil gods.
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'''Narrator:''' It isn't?
'''Tyler Durden:''' We don't need Him! }}
* [[God Onon Trial]] features a group of prisoners at Auschwitz putting God on trial for a breach of covenant. While several of the Jews defend God until literally their end, at least some of the prisoners come to the conclusion that God is evil. The final monologue features one prisoner listing out the crimes God has committed, and forcing the Jews to think of the victims of Gods wrath as people rather than just characters in a story, by comparing their slaughter to what is happening to them. Surprisingly the movie was written by a Catholic, in a very impressive case of Devils Advocate.
 
 
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== Tabletop RPG ==
* Practically every ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons]]'' setting features evil deities, though most settings primarily have those evil deities in conflict with good deities. Some [[Crapsack World|settings]], on the other hand, ''only'' have evil gods. Although it's unclear if they're gods or not, the [[Powers That Be|Dark Powers]] of [[Ravenloft]] are either out-and-out evil, or so inscrutable and/or indifferent to the innocents caught up in their playground that they might as well be.
* On top of this, the supplementary D&D book "Lords of Madness" takes this even further. Drawing heavily from the [[Cthulhu Mythos|Lovecraftian mythos]], the book heavily implies that the evil aberrations known as Aboleths predate the existence of the universe and the D&D deities themselves. Not only is the world born of this primal evil, but the book takes it a step further and goes on to explain that Mindflayers, Cthulhu-looking psychic humanoids that teleport between dimensions at will, see in complete darkness, paralyze opponents with sound, [[Brain Food|eat the brains of their victims]], and procreate by enslaving other <s>humanoids</s> organisms and infecting them with a parasitic larvae that takes control over an augment of the body, are the ultimate stage of evolution at the end of the universe. In fact, their existence in the medieval-like D&D era is explained as occurring simply because they utilized all of the resources by the end of the universe and reduced it to a cold barren wasteland. Afterwards, they decide to go back in time so they can fuck the universe over all over again. One of their goals is to destroy the sun, partially to fuck over the other species that rely on it but also because they just like it better that way.
* The concept of the game ''[[Midnight]]'' is fighting hopelessly against the Evil God Izrador who rules the world. However, Izrador is not the Creator, but merely the evil member of a pantheon exiled to the mortal world. The rest of his pantheon are definitely jerks for choosing the mortal world as Izrador's prison and locking everyone else in with him with no help, though.
** It was never intended that mortals be locked up the way they are with Izrador. Izrador, being a god of chaos and corruption, screwed up the seal that locked him into the world. Instead of being a world where every being except Izrador could enter and leave at will (by normal [[Dungeons and& Dragons]] standards), nobody is free to enter or leave, not even the other gods of the pantheon. Maybe the other gods should have seen something like that coming, but it's otherwise a bit harsh to call them jerks when they're actively prevented from doing anything in the world.
* Creation is also used as a prison for evil gods in Monte Cook's d20 setting ''Ptolus''. At least there, the Chaos Gods are also [[Sealed Evil in a Can|sealed away in a pocket dimension]] contained within our larger universe, thus making mankind not involuntary fellow inmates but instead involuntary ''prison guards''.
* God in [[White Wolf]]'s ''Demon: The Fallen'' is a psychotically ungrateful megalomaniac. Then again, the entire point of that RPG is that [[Satan Is Good|Lucifer is a sympathetic protagonist]]. What the Demons say about God in that game comes from an obviously biased source. God's actual intentions and motivations are far more ambiguous in the game as a whole; the whole Reconciliationist faction of Demons believes that God must have been good after all, mysterious as Her ways may seem... and Lucifer himself expresses doubts about his rebellion and a desperate desire to be reconciled with God at the end of the Time of Judgment game fiction.
* Taken to the extreme in ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' - '''all''' ''WH40K'' gods are evil. In ''WH40K'' the only really relevant gods (as in, the ones controlling [[The Legions of Hell|the endless hordes of ravenous daemons]] and who have the ability to spread their "[[The Corruption|blessings]]" liberally upon their mortal followers as opposed to simply being a generally ineffectual focus of worship) literally embody the worst parts of sentience. The Gods of Chaos also embody positive qualities though: the disease ridden Nurgle loves all life equally; a bacterium is loved as much as a veteran of fifty years. Then there is Tzeentch, a God of [[Manipulative Bastard]]s...who is the Warhammer universe's God of ''Hope''.
* Gork, Mork, and the Emperor of Mankind, who are slightly less bad. Slightly. To be fair, Gork and Mork are mostly better because they don't actually ''do'' anything except be an object of worship by Orks in the 40K setting. They're more active in ''Fantasy'', and not nearly as nice there. The Emperor was a good guy while he was alive, the intolerance and all that were the actions of his followers. If he were to come back in all his glory, odds are he would flip out at how far his Imperium has strayed from what he set out for.
* The C'Tan? They're arguably not ''real'' gods (they're just hideously powerful [[Energy Beings]] with the power of gods, to whom the laws of physics aren't even guidelines), but they're active at the moment... and make the Chaos Gods look good by comparison. The Chaos Gods at least have positive traits even if they're, at the moment, almost totally overshadowed by vile evil. The C'Tan are a bunch of self-serving, duplicitous, genocidal bastards who want to wipe out all life in the galaxy because life energy tastes better than stars. Also, they reduced their entire race of worshipers into near-mindless <s>cyborg</s> [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|undead robotic]] slaves. There are four of them left: the [[Grim Reaper|Nightbringer]], the personification of death who [[Mind Rape|burned his image into the psyche]] of virtually all life (big exception: the Orks) as such and made life be afraid of death; the Deceiver, [[Chessmaster]] par excellence; the Outsider, currently [[Ax Crazy|batshit bonkers]] and [[Sealed Evil in a Can|locked away in a cosmic prison]]; and the [[Deus Est Machina|Void Dragon]], currently napping. Information on the Void Dragon is sketchy, but he is said to be the most powerful C'Tan of them all, is believed to have total control over machines of all sorts, lightning, and may be the Machine God worshipped by the Adeptus Mechanicus—conveniently assumed to be sleeping under Mars.
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