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* He thought the acupuncture would help his dad's circulation, which would increase the flow of blood to his dad's brain, which would get his dad out of a coma. Which is scientifically sound. Also, [httphttps://wwwweb.springerlinkarchive.org/web/20190927173834/https://link.springer.com/contentarticle/x1867532142350l510.1007/s11726-005-0303-z clinical] [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16334716 studies] have shown that acupuncture can help people get out of coma's faster. Above Troper [[Did Not Do the Research]].

* It seems more like Kurt was willing to try anything (except prayer) to save his dad.

* I'm pretty sure Sue's attempts to get the Glee club to stop singing religious songs was, in part, an extension of her wanting to destroy the Glee club. However, it was also clearly done in an attempt to help a kid who, when asked, did tell her yes, he would like it done. And then, later, Emma demands Sue justify her attempts to help Kurt, defending the Glee kid's obnoxious, isolating attitude towards their friend's polite, firm request they don't shove their beliefs down his throat. Sue makes several good points, one of which is that Burt could die, and Emma really should be doing her job and helping him deal with that fact. Yes, prayer and faith can be wonderful for people who believe, and if Kurt did believe, Emma should definitely encourage his friends to use religion/faith to help him. However, whether he believes or not, whether she encourages prayer or not, she should be helping him come to terms with the very real fact his father could die. Also, since he doesn't believe and went as far as to accept a teacher's offer to try to help him get the club to stop pushing beliefs he's uncomfortable with at him, Emma, whatever her faith or lack of, should be doing what Sue, who is an athletic coach rather than a guidance counselor, is trying to do and get Kurt's friends to leave the emotionally devastated boy alone if they can't find some way to help him that he's comfortable with. Perhaps she could tell them to privately pray (as Puck did) and suggest some practical ways of showing support such as inviting him over for the night, bringing him food, offering to listen should he want to talk, or even just sitting quietly with him and holding his hand. I never thought I'd find an episode where I'd rush to Sue's defence or praise Puck, who did pray for Burt and Kurt but never once that I can remember tried to shove his beliefs onto Kurt or punish him for not accepting theism, but yeah, here I am. Sue and Puck were the heroes of episode, Kurt was let down numerous times by the people he'd come to emotionally rely on, Emma should've been fired, and the majority of ND was a good example of why many devoutly religious people are uncomfortable expressing their faith in public for fear they'll automatically be labelled intrusive, emotionally manipulative, and incapable of legitimately loving, or even just respecting, others due to supposed strings attached to that love/respect.

** Perhaps he meant public as in a solo in front of everybody rather than the typical background 'oooh aaah' chants that go on while the main singer steals a spotlight in any given Glee performance. And while his singing and duet performance was freakin' brilliant, it was done in a completely different style to Rachel's or Kurt's typical 'look at me, I can do every vocal range and then some' show offs so it's possible he could feel really insecure about his voice compared to everyone else's attention whoring. As for 'Laryngitis', I got nothing. :P

** Kurt ''knew'' that Finn was straight. Finn shouldn't ''have'' to say no. Look at it this way: my sister had a crush on her gay best guy friend. If she had pressured him anyway and tried to turn him ''straight'' just because he "never really said no", would that justify defense? True, Finn's line about "no means no" was a little off, but what he meant was that Kurt completely and intentionally dismissed boundaries he knew Finn had to try and seduce him. That is not okay, and Finn was making it clear to Kurt that he better not do that again. What Kurt did was restraining order worthy--he got their parents together so that he could get closer to Finn (who, to add a pinch of Squick, should be more like a brother figure then) and when their parents made them share a room (which is just stupid. Would you put your daughter and son in the same room?) instead of doing the right thing and saying "Dad, that's not appropriate" he used that to his advantage. Yes, Finn didn't say that either, but he was probably afraid of saying something that might offend Kurt or Burt. I don't think it has anything to do with "gender roles," it was just a creepy thing to do.

*** Just for the record, when you're in high school, knowing that the guy you have a crush on is straight does exactly nothing to abate said crush. In my experience, it just makes it worse.

**** ^Just to add: Please notice that one of the very first interactions that Finn had with Kurt had him saying that "he was flattered, but already had a date for prom", (Even before Kurt admitted being gay) while that was just him being nice, Kurt interpreted it as "I'm seeing someone now, but I might be interested if i wasn't". Kurt always respected his relationship with Quinn more than Rachel, and only did a little flirting, and started "seducing" him only after Quinn and Finn had broken up already. Since Kurt knew how Rachel acted during Finn/Quinn relationship, she was fair game.

* So it's okay for a high school student (an a boy initially) to play Frank-N-Furter but not the Criminologist?! And as it was mentioned above, Will as Rocky would be unbelievably innappropriate.

* Also they had to change the lyrics for harmless words but they kept in students in their underwear, even when it's obviously making the kid uncomfortable? Or how about that Finn is so worried about being in his underwear but not that he's playing a guy who gets seduced by another man or performs in a Cabaret show in drag.

** Right, the play just being an overall bad idea for a high school performance is kinda the point of the show.

** She did see right through it. Notice she ran out of the room, and in the very next scene, Carl storms in on the rehearsal, understandably pissed. It's pretty obvious she ran to Carl and told him exactly what was going on.

* Why does Kurt have such a problem playing Frank n'Furter? The guy has shown no hesitation to dress up in very girly clothes countless times before.

*** Not sure, Dijon was apparently fired. They probably needed to make way for more characters.

** Possibly Anthony had some interest in Mercedes. He did seem interest in her.

** I thought it was weird that the expenses were even an issue at all. It's always been implied that Burt makes very good money, with owning his own lucrative business and everything. It's always been shown that Kurt and Burt live very well up to this point (nice clothes, expensive cars, telling Finn that they'd knock out a wall and add an addition to the house as though it was no biggie) so this "saving all our money for the Honeymoon" came pretty much out of nowhere. Sure, it will cost more than usual to maintain a household with four people as opposed to two, but not to the point of having to save up for a short trip for two to Hawaii.

== A Very Glee Christmas ==

** I always thought it was more of a case of Sue influence more than the actual rules. They got the mattresses as gifts, which some people would consider payment, and some wouldn't. By Sue's logic, New Directions should be disqualified because they performed at a wedding and got paid in food.

** Quinn even calls him out in the episode on this, saying that he is doing what he hates others to do to him. He gives what is pretty much the most pathetic [[Hand Wave]] ever in response.

*** You see, I really don't like that excuse because Finn had just previously rejected both Quinn and Rachel because he couldn't deal with the fact that they cheated on him. That makes him into a total [[Hypocrite]].

** Not necessarily true. While most people can only catch it once, in rare cases people can get it again. Personally, this troper's had it three times now.

* Wouldn't it really be possible for a person to get sick off of a large amount of gummy vitamins? Regular vitamins can cause an overdose if a person takes too many. I think the gummies are made exclusively for children, which I assume means the dosage is lower, but taking a whole bottle or more seems like it'd be toxic enough to cause some problems even for a healthy adult.

* In "Laryngitis" back in Season One, when Burt walked in on Kurt and Brittany, his attitude was basically "Meh, have fun. Just wrap it up before you stick it in." But now he's flipping out because he thinks Kurt had sex with Blaine. Kurt's [[Double Standard]] argument would have held a lot more weight had he remembered this.

** I thought this, then rewound and noticed Emma, Sue, Figgins and a couple of others were all listed together as "Work Contacts". So would have been easy for him to slip and accidently call someone a couple notches up/down the list.

* Different schools have different ideas on appropriateness. In this troper's school, all the teachers gave out cell phone/home phone/email addresses to the students, and one teacher did actually tell the class that she had picked up a kid at 3 in the morning once and would do so again if called. The school I went is the same one my family has gone to since the 30's/50's, and even when the youngest of my older family members went, teachers did not give out personal information. If a student had called them, the student would probably get in trouble for prank calling.

** Kurt doesn't really seem to be into modern broadway musicals as much as the classics. While it ''is'' true that older musicals do touch on this thing, most don't do it blatantly. I can think of [[Promises, Promises|a few exceptions,]] but for the most part, the ones that are really famous really are a touch of the fingertips.

The reason Sunshine's 600 twitter followers didn't show up was because she wasn't performing at the event. Wouldn't the tickets have to have been sold to them beforehand? The tickets weren't to be bought at the event itself (Puck mentions selling four tickets before Sunshine's audition).

* Well, there was that line in season one when Quinn told Puck she was feeling fat. And then there was that bit in "Home" where Quinn comforts Mercedes about her [[Meat-O-Vision]] and pressure to lose weight, saying that she'd been there, too.

Why was Will so upset about Emma choosing "Ginger" for her shirt instead of "OCD"? The purpose of the "Born This Way" song, and the whole message of the episode (at least, that I gathered) was that the group was learning to accept things about themselves that they were, you know, born with, and that they would embrace those things instead of trying to change them... hence, Rachel's nose... But Will is trying to help Emma get over her OCD. In fact, he's pushing her to do it... seeing a counselor and all that.

I've harped on this before, but really, Dave Karofsky caves because some girl said that she saw him briefly looking a guy who ''was getting a drink at a water fountain''. Oh, and because some guy who doesn't even go to school with them anymore alluded to him having a secret. So, her evidence is, "A guy who isn't going to come back made a vague statement, and I saw Karofsky look at a boy who was getting a drink of water for a few seconds." Somehow, I'm just not seeing that as irrefutable proof of homosexuality. It would be incredibly easy to deny all memory or simply say that he was thirsty and looked to see who was getting a drink before wondering off to find an unoccupied water fountain.

* Also, Karofksy isn't smooth or smart enough to lie like that. Even look at what he said when Satana said it to him originally, the best he could come up with was that he was checking out Sam's jeans.

** Yet they constantly bring attention to weight issue and Artie's handicapp. In fact they've dedicated entire episodes to both of those issues (Artie trying to walk, and Mercedes trying to lose weight), I doubt a t-shirt would raise any eyebrows. There's also a valid reason for Artie not putting his injury on his shirt. He was likely born with poor vision, and it's a part of him. He didn't get his paralyzing injury until he was eight, and that was a complete accident, which isn't part of who he is.

Am I the only one who was bothered by that whole exchange? If Finn and pre-makeover Quinn had met, they would never have happened. If they met, and then, she had the whole makeover, maybe, but even then, I have my doubts. So, he carries around a picture of his hot girlfriend's old photo where she wasn't conventionally attractive. Okay. I didn't hate the scene, it just struck me as Finn trying to cast himself as the good, deep guy despite reality, and Quinn falling for his act. Finn can be a nice guy who has a deepness to him, but in that scene, it seemed more like he was trying to play the part rather than being it. Yet, it seems everyone else considered the exchange heartwarming and realistic.

* Also, young children generally have blonder/lighter hair which darkens as they age. Light blonde hair is not typically a normal adult/young adult color.

** Because Brittany honestly didn't know she was cheating. Artie could have told her that Santana was lying and taking advantage of her, but instead decided to insult the very thing that seem to affect her the most(That's what she wrote in her shirt after all).

** The mean comments might've been why she disabled the comments.

* Kurt (and his father) have been troublesome for Figgins several times, most recently with Burt refusing to accept Figgins' word that the school was cleaned up and Karofsky was reformed. There are teachers who are not above using student bullying as a way to gain a little passive revenge on a student who's made their lives difficult. It's not a nice thought, but it's a possibility.

*** Maybe, but he's still called "Anderson" on official material. And even if they actually forgot it, it doesn't make sense for his last name to be the same as his own group unless the writers are trying to turn the character himself into a big joke.

***** For starters, I think the vote was rigged; I don't think everyone really voted for Kurt.

******* How about when we saw all the jocks surrounding him and throwing him into the dumpster in the pilot and in the second episode, before we even met Karofsky and Azimio? Or the jeers when he joined the football team?

******* Kurt wanted a pair of "sensible heels" for his birthday when he was little. He has called himself an "honorary girl" before. Who says you ''have'' to be ''literally'' a girl to be voted prom queen?

******** He's only called himself an "honorary girl" because he's more comfortable working with them. I don't know why this is still being debated; Kurt is unpopular, it was meant to be a cruel joke, he was offended. It's not like he was running for prom queen and won.

*** I can get behind that, but my original point that the writers sucked this one up still stands, I think. This explanation is way better than what was actually shown, and the writers' job is to show us, not tell us, what is happeneing, and they completely screwed that up here. Everything that we assume about this plot point is either told to us or we really do have to assume it. It would have been lovely if, as someone below pointed out, the writers had the kids mounting some sort of Facebook campaign in secret. That's perfectly plausible, and could have been worked in during the three-way contemplation time right after he was announced, as could have some of the extras whispering "oh shit, that wasn't as funny as we thought it was going to be" or something like that.

**** I thought he said that ''he'' wanted to lose, that he wanted to win Anti-Prom King to restore his street cred. If Lauren won Prom Queen, he'd be dating one of the most powerful girls in the school. And yes, it is hurtful because even if Puck had fixed it, he had an entire female audience he could have given it to and it would have had the same effect. He could have given it to Brittany. He could have given it to Becky. He could have given it to ''Sue''.

** It definitely comes off as a major [[Ass Pull]]. They really should have had someone (Sue, Karofsky, Jacob Ben Israel, etc.) pulling strings/convincing other students to vote for Kurt as a joke. It seems extremely unlikely that most of the students would independently decide to do it.

** You'd be surprised how quickly word flies in a high school, especially one the size of McKinley; at my high school's Valentine's Day dance last year, the student council thought it'd be fun to have us all vote on a King and Queen of the dance. A guy I know, who is mocked and made fun of by the popular kids for being 'different', was added as a last minute nominee [mind you, he had no idea he had been nominated until the day of] and everyone thought it would be hilarious if this unpopular kid managed to beat out the most popular kids in school and became 'King'. By the day of, people who had no idea who the guy even was were voting for him and he won by a major landslide. It hurt the guy's feelings a lot; which surprised a lot of people because they thought he was on board with the idea. So it's possible a lot of people voted for Kurt because they thought it was a harmless joke that Kurt wasn't bothered by.

* He would still need to take certain "core classes" like math, science, and english as well as other electives to get enough credits to graduate. Besides, it seems like he enrolled in those classes thinking that someone would automatically take the tests for him.

** Agreed - at my college, there are teachers who actually advise dropping classes when you're failing so you don't have it affect your GPA.

* It's also entirely possible that Jesse is lying and the real reason is much more embarassing. It would make sense that he would lie about it since he is trying to get back into Rachel's pants.

* I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to be accredited that you have "gen eds" (General Education) that are a requirement to get any degree, especially at a big university like UCLA. I went to a small, private, religious, liberal arts women's college, and the gen eds were (I think, it's been some time)

** It was a "mean" kind of joke, apparently. And it's this troper's opinion that the vote was rigged, Lauren or Quinn or Santana probably truly won, and the reason everybody's stone-faced is because, well, he won.

** The official lyrics of [[Adele]]'s version say "...I'll lay your ship bare." So in essence, it is kind of a [[Mondegreen]].

*** On top of that, Sue could easily manipulate Brittany. She did all last year.

* I didn't mind Will and Mrs Jackson referring to her as Sue, but when the ND kids were talking about her, they kept using her first name. Haven't they always referred to her by her title of Coach? Since they didn't do it to her face, I don't find it particularly disrespectful, but it did seem odd.

*** I went to a daycare where the staff was called by their first names. At school, however, everyone was Mr, one of the female equivalents (most were called Miss whether they were married or not, but sometimes a non-married teacher would be called Mrs), or Coach if they referred themselves to as that (not all coaches were actually involved in any athletics). At school, when the students discussed teachers privately, it didn't matter if they absolutely hated them, they still referred to them as Title Surname. It wasn't so much a matter of respect as the fact that the teacher was firmly established in everyone's mind as Title Surname.

* Not really. Jesse's initial reaction was the most accurate, the "were they suppose to do that?" vibe.

** Then they would need a female chaperone.

Their relationship hasn't been properly addressed since Prom Queen and even then it was left slightly open since they took a picture together at prom. As far as I'm concerned, that meant they were back together, which would go against Quinn's comment that I mentioned earlier. I may have missed something, and if I have, someone please correct me. Because, otherwise, we have some bad writers on the Glee production team.

* Perhaps the photo just meant that Brittany more or less forgave him, but wasn't ready to get back together?