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Reorganized page to make it easier to read and find things that need action. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 01:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Reorganized page to make it easier to read and find things that need action. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 01:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

'''Final Note:''' Everything on this page has been dealt with in one way or another years ago. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 03:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


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==Assuming these aren't ghost pages that were never actually created, we need to find and restore:==
==Assuming these aren't ghost pages that were never actually created, we need to find and restore:==
* [[Air In A G-String]] (trope)


* [[Dog Fighting Furballs]] (trope) {{color|orange|Found on Wayback Machine, locked, no source page}}
* [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair/Tabletop Games]] is explicitly listed and linked on [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair]] as an example subpage, but is not to be found. {{color|brown|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from April 2012 would have be converted by hand.}}
* [[Tourist Trap]] (trope) {{color|green|Found On Wayback Machine}}
:(That can't be right -- I ''remember'' Tourist Trap. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 02:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC))
::Found the page. It was created before The Great Crash, and the latest source is from 2010. The records vanish after that. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 02:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
* I'm almost afraid to ask, but I saw a link on a page: [[Two Girls One Cup]] (work) (it had a very safe for work stub in 2010, no source, [http://web.archive.org/web/20100119062837/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwoGirlsOneCup Wayback machine link if you're interested.])
* [[Token Loli]] (trope)
* [[Baby Got Back]] (trope, deleted by Fast Eddie Jan 2012, see this cached copy of a [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9wRfTIoC_BcJ:tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php%3Fdiscussion%3D1326487570080765200+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us thread about its deletion]. Might not be worth it?)


== Pages that have been dealt with, one way or another:==
== Pages that have been dealt with, one way or another:==
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* [[Demon Beast Invasion]] (work) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Demon Beast Invasion]] (work) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[The Twilight Chronicles]] has a [[The Twilight Chronicles/Recap|Recap page]], but the links on it are all red. (work subpage) {{color|orange|Still redlinks on TVT}}
* [[The Twilight Chronicles]] has a [[The Twilight Chronicles/Recap|Recap page]], but the links on it are all red. (work subpage) {{color|orange|Still redlinks on TVT}}
* [[Traveling Girls Must Wear Blue]] (trope, mentioned on [[The Wizard of Oz (Film)]]) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Traveling Girls Must Wear Blue]] (trope, mentioned on [[The Wizard of Oz (film)]]) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Juno Reactor]] (creator) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Juno Reactor]] (creator) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Myra Breckinridge]] (work, seems to be the kind of thing to have been prudepurged) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Myra Breckinridge]] (work, seems to be the kind of thing to have been prudepurged) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Post Mortem Closet]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed, even though it was linked to since forever}}
* [[Emmanuelle (video game)]] (work) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Queer Eye For The Straight Guy]] (work) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Drew Careys Green Screen Show]] (work) {{color|red|redirects to a non-existent PTitle}}
* [[Historians Fallacy]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Presentism]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Intentional Fallacy]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Kettle Logic]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Mind Projection Fallacy]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Moralistic Fallacy]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Nirvana Fallacy]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}
* [[Rap Feud]] (trope) {{color|red|Never existed}}




=== Pages That Were Rediects Or Other Non-Content ===
=== Pages That Were Rediects Or Other Non-Content ===
* [[Runs On Nonsensoleum]] (trope) {{color|blue|redirect for "It Runs on Nonsensoleum"}}
* [[Runs On Nonsensoleum]] (trope) {{color|blue|redirect for "It Runs on Nonsensoleum"}}
* [[Kiss X Sis]] (work) (exists, was redirected to appropriate page)
* [[Kiss×Sis]] (work) (exists, was redirected to appropriate page)
* [[Devil May Care (Literature)]] (work, mentioned on [[Closed Cities]]) (should redirect to main James Bond page) {{color|green|Recreated redirect.}}
* [[James Bond]] (work, mentioned on [[Closed Cities]]) (should redirect to main James Bond page) {{color|green|Recreated redirect.}}
* Viewers Are Horny (trope) {{color|blue|redirect for "All Men Are Perverts"}} {{color|green|Recreated redirect.}} {{color|green|Redirect replaced on the few pages that use it and deleted again.}}




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=== Pages not actually worth porting over ===
=== Pages not actually worth porting over ===
* [[Parabomber]] (tropedex) {{color|violet|Troper silliness and injoking}}
* [[Parabomber]] (tropedex) {{color|violet|Troper silliness and injoking}}
* [[Theme Song Assonance]] (trope) {{color|brown|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from April 2012 would have be converted by hand.}}
*: This page was cut from TVT, and looking at [https://web.archive.org/web/20120409050015/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThemeSongAssonance the archive], it's not hard to see why. The only valid examples of this I can think are the theme to American Bandstand (which really does seem like trumpets say "bandstand!"), and in the movie [[My Fellow Americans]] where the ex-presidents made up lyrics to ''Hail to the Chief''. Neither of them were on the page. [[User:Vorticity|Vorticity]] ([[User talk:Vorticity|talk]]) 09:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
* [[Pervs Sell Products]] (trope) {{color|brown|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from May 2011 would have be converted by hand.}}
*:This is another super-questionable page; [https://web.archive.org/web/20110518175743/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PervsSellProducts archive here]. Titles suck, examples suck. The basic idea is along the lines of South Park's definition of "Murder Porn". If someone wants this, send it to the [[Trope Workshop]], please. [[User:Vorticity|Vorticity]] ([[User talk:Vorticity|talk]]) 09:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)




=== Pages That Have Been Restored: ===
=== Pages That Have Been Restored: ===
* [[Even The Wombats Want Him]] (trope) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Even the Wombats Want Him]] (trope) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[True Art Is Offensive]] (trope) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[True Art Is Offensive]] (trope) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[True Art Sticks It To The Man]] (trope, mentioned in True Art Is Offensive) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[True Art Sticks It to The Man]] (trope, mentioned in True Art Is Offensive) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Kuudere]] (has it always been example-free?) {{color|green|Found removed examples on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Kuudere]] (has it always been example-free?) {{color|green|Found removed examples on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Snarky Non Human Sidekick|Snarky Nonhuman Sidekick]] (trope; strikes me as unlikely to have existed) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Snarky Non-Human Sidekick|Snarky Nonhuman Sidekick]] (trope; strikes me as unlikely to have existed) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[8-Bit Theater]] (work; I can't believe we're missing this given its frequency of appearance, but I can't find it via the search) {{color|green|Appears to have been found/reconstructed by the looks of Recent Changes}}
* [[8-Bit Theater]] (work; I can't believe we're missing this given its frequency of appearance, but I can't find it via the search) {{color|green|Appears to have been found/reconstructed by the looks of Recent Changes}}
* [[Cherry Comics]] (work; definitely qualifies to have been prudepurged by TVT) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Cherry Comics]] (work; definitely qualifies to have been prudepurged by TVT) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
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* [[Incest Subtext]] mentions that ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' "once had" an entire page on its incest subtext; we should locate it and see if it's worth restoring. (Found [http://web.archive.org/web/20100923131456/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/IncestYay/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace this] and [http://web.archive.org/web/20100818233705/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/BrotherSisterIncest/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace this], neither have a source page.)
* [[Incest Subtext]] mentions that ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' "once had" an entire page on its incest subtext; we should locate it and see if it's worth restoring. (Found [http://web.archive.org/web/20100923131456/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/IncestYay/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace this] and [http://web.archive.org/web/20100818233705/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/BrotherSisterIncest/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace this], neither have a source page.)
** The former appears to be a later version of the latter. As for the worth of rebuilding it by hand, I can't say. It does seem to firmly make the case for the subtext without being particularly prurient... {{color|green|Recreated by hand and restored to the show's Analysis page}}
** The former appears to be a later version of the latter. As for the worth of rebuilding it by hand, I can't say. It does seem to firmly make the case for the subtext without being particularly prurient... {{color|green|Recreated by hand and restored to the show's Analysis page}}
* [[Bone Thugs-n-Harmony (Music)]] (work; we have YMMV and Trivia pages for Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, but no main page. Glitch during the tropebase acquisition?) {{color|brown|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page}} {{color|green|Recreated by hand and restored}}
* [[Bone Thugs-n-Harmony]] (work; we have YMMV and Trivia pages for Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, but no main page. Glitch during the tropebase acquisition?) {{color|brown|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page}} {{color|green|Recreated by hand and restored}}
* [[Danbooru]] (wiki? work?) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Danbooru]] (wiki? work?) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine}}
* [[Token Loli]] (trope) {{color|darkblue|but it's actually almost the same thing as}} Token Mini-Moe
** The two pages have been consolidated, and "Token Mini-Moe" now redirects to "Token Loli". --[[User:Robkelk|Robkelk]] ([[User talk:Robkelk|talk]]) 16:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
* [[Baby Got Back]] (trope, deleted by Fast Eddie Jan 2012, see this cached copy of a [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9wRfTIoC_BcJ:tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php%3Fdiscussion%3D1326487570080765200+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us thread about its deletion]. Might not be worth it?) {{color|green|Restored}}
* [[The Erotic Mind Control Story Archive]] (work)
* I'm almost afraid to ask, but I saw a link on a page: [[2 Girls 1 Cup]] (work) (it had a very safe for work stub in 2010, no source, [http://web.archive.org/web/20100119062837/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwoGirlsOneCup Wayback machine link if you're interested.]) (Since it was a joke page, sure, restored. I might lock it to discourage the... enthusiastic, though.) (Deleted again in late 2019 as a potential trouble magnet.)
* [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair/Tabletop Games]] is explicitly listed and linked on [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair]] as an example subpage, but is not to be found. {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from April 2012 would have be converted by hand. Now restored.}}
* [[Dogfighting Furballs]] (trope) {{color|orange|Found on Wayback Machine, locked, no source page}}
*:Someone didn't try hard enough to find the [https://web.archive.org/web/20120902023511/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.DogFightingFurballs source].
* Multiple redlinks on [[Keep Abreast of This Index]] - Fixed almost all of them via importing them from the Tropes Mirror Wiki. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 23:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
* [[FATAL]] - We had this, but without tropes at the time it was listed here. Tropes were restored 18:38, May 11, 2014‎ by QuestionableSanity. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 21:40, 14 October 2014 (BST)
* [[I Showed Her What A Real Man Is]] (trope) {{color|green|Found on Wayback Machine, restored.}} -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 21:40, 14 October 2014 (BST)
* [[Playboy]]: tropes restored by [[User:Arromdee|Ken Arromdee]] ([[User talk:Arromdee|talk]]) 02:51, 18 October 2014 (BST)
* [[Rape Is Okay When Its Female On Female]]
* [[Chap Hop]] (or [[Chap-Hop]])
* [[All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles/Headscratchers]] -- linked off of [[Tropes/Headscratchers]].

== Pages we had, but just got misplaced ==
* [[Chappelle's Show]] (work) (likewise) {{color|green|Located at misspelling Chapelle's Show.}}
* [[Tourist Trap]] (trope) {{color|green|Found On Wayback Machine}}
:(That can't be right -- I ''remember'' Tourist Trap. -- [[User:Looney Toons|Looney Toons]] ([[User talk:Looney Toons|talk]]) 02:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC))
::Found the page. It was created before The Great Crash, and the latest source is from 2010. The records vanish after that. [[User:GethN7|GethN7]] ([[User talk:GethN7|talk]]) 02:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah but -- the trope was basically the same as [[Busman's Holiday]], which is a better name anyway and it has more content.
::::Our version of "Tourist Trap" is now a disambiguation page. --[[User:Robkelk|Robkelk]] ([[User talk:Robkelk|talk]]) 23:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

==I Found Some of the Stuff in the List==
''MOD: This section was added by [[User:Jade Shauni]] in 2017. Thank you!''

I saw this forum, I went to WM, and found some of them.

Saki Achiga-hen: I found that it's been unbanned from Tv Tropes as well.
Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20151226181452/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/SakiAchigaHen

Queer Eye (similar situation as Saki).
Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20150122171608/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/QueerEye?from=Series.QueerEyeForTheStraightGuy

True Art is Foreign: https://web.archive.org/web/20160809075010/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=m4duy40b13yaa1x4aq9pbtbj

RPG Codex:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110609133152/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RPGCodex

Sugar in the Gas Tank:
It got renamed and the earliest archive that I found goes back to 2014.
Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20150925161054/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VehicularSabotage?from=Main.SugarInTheGasTank

Latest revision as of 23:10, 26 January 2022

Forums: Index Wiki Talk

I know that a lot of cut pages have been restored already, but IIRC they've mainly been works. I've come across some tropes that are redlinked, and I figured I'd start a list of them just so we have one central place to consult for them. -- Looney Toons (talk) 21:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay, okay, they're not mostly tropes. And thank you, Geth. -- Looney Toons (talk) 02:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
BTW, I'm not putting these here hoping someone else will do the work -- I'm using it as a list of things to get to. Except you're getting to it before I do! For which I give thanks, but for which I also feel vaguely guilty. -- Looney Toons (talk) 01:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. We knew we'd have missing pages, and your bringing it to our attention allows us to find what we can can, convert it MW format, then put it here if possible. Seriously, your help in find these missing pages is deeply appreciated. GethN7 (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Another resource beyond just stumbling over redlinks: Special:BrokenRedirects. I've spotted a dozen or so candidates for prudepurged pages to restore just glancing over the list. And there may be other missing ones there, too. -- Looney Toons (talk) 15:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Reorganized page to make it easier to read and find things that need action. -- Looney Toons (talk) 01:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Final Note: Everything on this page has been dealt with in one way or another years ago. -- Looney Toons (talk) 03:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


Assuming these aren't ghost pages that were never actually created, we need to find and restore:


Pages that have been dealt with, one way or another:

Pages That It Turned Out Never Existed To Begin With:


Pages That Were Rediects Or Other Non-Content

  • Runs On Nonsensoleum (trope) redirect for "It Runs on Nonsensoleum"
  • Kiss×Sis (work) (exists, was redirected to appropriate page)
  • James Bond (work, mentioned on Closed Cities) (should redirect to main James Bond page) Recreated redirect.
  • Viewers Are Horny (trope) redirect for "All Men Are Perverts" Recreated redirect. Redirect replaced on the few pages that use it and deleted again.


Pages That Did Not Exist Before June 2012


Pages not actually worth porting over

  • Parabomber (tropedex) Troper silliness and injoking
  • Theme Song Assonance (trope) Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from April 2012 would have be converted by hand.
    This page was cut from TVT, and looking at the archive, it's not hard to see why. The only valid examples of this I can think are the theme to American Bandstand (which really does seem like trumpets say "bandstand!"), and in the movie My Fellow Americans where the ex-presidents made up lyrics to Hail to the Chief. Neither of them were on the page. Vorticity (talk) 09:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Pervs Sell Products (trope) Found on Wayback Machine, no source page before June 2012 available, latest version from May 2011 would have be converted by hand.
    This is another super-questionable page; archive here. Titles suck, examples suck. The basic idea is along the lines of South Park's definition of "Murder Porn". If someone wants this, send it to the Trope Workshop, please. Vorticity (talk) 09:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


Pages That Have Been Restored:

Pages we had, but just got misplaced

(That can't be right -- I remember Tourist Trap. -- Looney Toons (talk) 02:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC))
Found the page. It was created before The Great Crash, and the latest source is from 2010. The records vanish after that. GethN7 (talk) 02:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but -- the trope was basically the same as Busman's Holiday, which is a better name anyway and it has more content.
Our version of "Tourist Trap" is now a disambiguation page. --Robkelk (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I Found Some of the Stuff in the List

MOD: This section was added by User:Jade Shauni in 2017. Thank you!

I saw this forum, I went to WM, and found some of them.

Saki Achiga-hen: I found that it's been unbanned from Tv Tropes as well. Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20151226181452/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/SakiAchigaHen

Queer Eye (similar situation as Saki). Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20150122171608/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/QueerEye?from=Series.QueerEyeForTheStraightGuy

True Art is Foreign: https://web.archive.org/web/20160809075010/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=m4duy40b13yaa1x4aq9pbtbj

RPG Codex: https://web.archive.org/web/20110609133152/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RPGCodex

Sugar in the Gas Tank: It got renamed and the earliest archive that I found goes back to 2014. Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20150925161054/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VehicularSabotage?from=Main.SugarInTheGasTank