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** Before Jack went on his way, he was pondering outloud to the Doctor and Rose on what he'd look like in a million years. He was waiting to see the Doctor since the 1800's having overshot by two centuries, and while waiting, noticed he was also STILL aging, albeit at an extremely slow pace. One would imagine that given enough time, he may have evolved to be more efficient. Screw having a body and just evolve into a giant head. If that's the case, he may have inadvertently undone the immortality Rose gave him but still kept near-infinite [[Hit Points]]. He only died because he was powering a city and gave it his all. Also, the only thing the Doctor knows is that the Face of Boe is extremely old and up until the reveal of Jack being from the Boeshane Peninsula, only knows rumors surrounding the origins of Boe.
* More likely The Face of Boe is what you become when you catch every STD in the universe. If anyone can manage to do that, it's Jack.
** Nah, episode 3 of ''[[Torchwood Miracle Day (TV)|Torchwood: Miracle Day]]'' shows he cares about immortal men not receiving STDs and prefers protection.
*** But he was ''mortal'' then.
 
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* I thought the Doctor was more freaked out that Jack was a "fact" as in immortal which is just too weird, even for the Doctor.
 
== [[Portal (Video Gameseries)|GlaDOS]] was one of the Cybermen in "The Next Doctor". ==
Oh, come ''on''. "That was designated: a lie".
* What on... when did GLaDOS ever use the phrase "the cake is a lie" herself?
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== Lucy Saxon is in the Sky with Diamonds. ==
The Master specifically chose a woman named Lucy as a way of drawing in and taunting the Doctor, who is, ever since his first incarnation, a fan of [[The Beatles]], and in fact, both Time Lords are fan of pop music. Why would he taunt the Doctor in such a roundabout way? Because "the skies are made of diamonds!" The surreal landscape described in the song also fits that of Gallifrey as described by the Doctor.
* A number of people suspect that the Lucy and "skies are made of diamonds" were both an intentional Beatles gag by [[Russell T. Davies]]. This doesn't invalidate the theory.
 
== Humanity is the oldest race in the universe. Sort of. ==
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** His mother is ''also'' a throwback, explaining his remark in the movie that he's human on his mother's side.
* So let's get this straight: you're saying the last humans in the universe created Utopia to go back to the beginning of the universe and became the Time Lords themselves? Yes!
** As a bit of icing on that cake, a roleplaying game called [[Time Lords]], originally released in the 1980's, posited that the only race in the entire history of the universe (who eventually became known as a Guardians) to completely master the science of time travel were also the LAST race to come into existence in the universe. Coming into their own at the far end of history, they were forced to make the most out of limited resources, which led to a number of unique innovations, like being able to cram [[Bigger Onon the Inside|a warehouse full of electronics into something the side of a 20-sided die]]. Once they perfected the time travel technology, they used it to shift their entire civilization back to the very beginning of time, where the massive abundance of resources and their incredible technology (as compared to the younger races only just coming into being) led to their becoming decadent and corrupt, until they were ultimately destroyed by one of their own creations. With very few changes, that scenario fits the "humans become Time Lords" theory quite nicely. It also explains why no one saw a problem with Leela and Andred hooking up, why the Doctor and Donna were compatible in the first place, and how the proposed storyline where Ace is accepted into the Time Lord academy would have been possible - the two races are genetically different points on a long timeline, but still interrelated.
 
== Captain Jack wasn't the only person brought back to life. ==
There were many more people who died on the Gamestation. Given the amount of power that Rose/Bad Wolf was wielding, there's no reason she couldn't have brought them all back; Jack was just the only one we saw. And if they got brought back the same way as Jack, they probably also share Jack's "condition", which would mean that somewhere in the future there's a large number of immortal humans running around.
* Does this mean that Rose is somehow responsible for the Immortals in [[Highlander (Franchise)|Highlander]]?
** If it is, then Jack can be killed. He just needs to be beheaded. Admittedly, that may just make it ''possible'' for him to die, given that Face of Boe jazz.
*** Maybe that's how "The Face of Boe" got started. Captain Jack got his head cut off and had his body separated from it.
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** Also, as a side-theory, those Angels in Wester Drumlins are not permanently quantum locked. The estate presumably belongs to the public, and if not them, well, clearly have some form of owner, and once someone goes to rip it down to build something new like another, safer structure or a park or something..., things will fall in the basement where the Angels are. Block their vision... And the workers begin to vanish, one... by.... one.
 
== [[Russell T. Davies]] is the Grey Guardian. ==
In an attempt to survive the Time Wars of the non-canonical spinoffs, the Black and White Guardians merged into a new being, the Grey Guardian. This entity compressed the timelines into a new, canonical Whoniverse, and used a new Time War he orchestrated to remake it in his image. Utilizing the Doctor as a pawn, RTD is stabilizing this universe through a combination of the Blinovitch Limitation Effect and the Observer Effect, with the humans of our world as observers.
* ''[[Torchwood (TV)|Torchwood]]'' is a gambit by the Monkey Time Reapers to corral RTD into his own personal universe, so that they can cleanse the Whoniverse without his opposition. It appears to be working, but the Smoke Guardian, Steve Moffat, is moving to fill the gap.
 
== The Doctor lies about his age so he's not accused of being a pedophile. ==
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* Alternately, the royalty/werewolves/revolutionaries managed to infect much of the populace with a degraded form of werewolfism (perhaps through vaccines) as a way of controlling the population. (Why bother with show trials for your opponenents when you can trigger them to "wolf out" and then kill them with no repercussions?) The green goop brought up by the Inferno project could have triggered the werewolfism, since there doesn't seem to be any logical connection between the Earth's core and dodgy looking wolf-men.
 
== "The Wire" from "The Idiot's Lantern" is Koh the Face Stealer from ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' ==
Both Koh and the Wire suck off peoples faces. Maybe Koh found a way out of the spirit world into the signals from the television and made up the "alien" story from the memories it sucked from Rose. Oh, and maybe Mr Magpie was not vaporized, but sucked into the spirit world.
 
== The Strogg of [[Quake II (Video Game)|Quake II]] and [[Quake IV (Video Game)4|Quake IV]] are a product of Nanogenes gone haywire ==
Another Chula medical ship crashed somewhere where the human marines were waging war. The nanogenes were released, and they came across a messed-up corpse of a soldier inside a destroyed vehicle. Commence "healing" á la [[Doctor Who|the Empty Child]]: fallen weapon gets integrated into the severed forearm, body and limbs plus parts of the wreckage are haphazardly stitched together, and voilá: a Strogg am I.
 
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Or an equivalent. This ties in with the theory about the Doctor committing a slow form of suicide, but with a twist - he's not trying to die, just reach the point of his final regeneration when the Valeyard will be created and travel back to the time of "The Trial of a Time Lord". As far as he knows, this is his only way into Gallifrey's time-locked past (due to a combination of predestination and other [[Timey-Wimey Ball|timey wimey things]]). The plan is a [[Xanatos Gambit]] to either create a different potential entity who can go back and change things or to follow the Valeyard through when he goes and avert the Time War that way.
 
== The [[Get Smart (TV)|Get Smart]] universe is the home of the ultimate authority on universes. ==
Rose Tyler, in "Turn Left," says she's been in contact with Control about Donna and the situation her decision made. CONTROL, hmm?
 
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* The limit on regenerations was optional. The Time Lords are able to casually offer the Master ''twelve more'' regenerations as a bribe to help the Doctor. If the Eighth Doctor was fighting on the front lines of the Time War, as he is implied to have been, they might have given him a fill-up just in case. (This also explains why the Master, who was long out of regenerations in the TV Movie, was able to regenerate from Yana to Saxon.) David Tennant is the Tenth Doctor ''sequentially'', but is only the third Doctor in this "batch."
 
== The Doctor is [[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|the Avatar.]] ==
 
Season 3 finale: he goes all glowy and flies. Since Aang also does this in the Avatar State, the logical conclusion is that the Doctor is the Avatar, albeit either an alternate universe one or a different incarnation.
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Combine this with the fact that, supposedly, a Time Lord gains the regenerations of other Time Lords he has killed, and... good grief.
* Wow. Kinda makes the Doctor sound like a marauding ghoul...
** Is it like some modified form of [[Highlander (Franchise)|Highlander]]?
 
== The human Dr Who from the movies as played by Peter Cushing is the Other Tenth Doctor ==
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== [[Russell T. Davies]] have already [[Chekhov's Gun|Chekhovs Gunned]] themself out of the "Only thirteen regenerations"-mess ==
This is shamelessly stolen from [http://www.tin-dog.co.uk/ the Tin Dog Podcast], but take a look on that fob-watch. It ''re-writes a timelord's DNA''. The theory goes like this:
 
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* Well... Valeyard was a ''title'', not a name. Then again, so is Doctor and Master. Plus, should the Valeyard be as much of a hopeless romantic as River describes the Doctor the previous time she saw him?
** In the [[Expanded Universe]] novels, the Master's name is revealed to be {{spoiler|Koschei}}.
* Alternatively, his name is "Who". It turns out [[I Am Not Shazam|he is Shazam]], and also [[Who's Onon First?|on first]].
 
== Dalek Caan's status is similar to Jonah and the Pompeiians ==
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== The time-lock is not the same as time crystallization ==
Crossing over timelines is A Bad Thing, as "Father's Day" showed. However, it's possible ("Father's Day" again, "Smith and Jones"); it's supposed to be dangerous, not out of the question. This has always been [[Timey -Wimey Ball|explained]] as being a question of crystallization of time (or the Blimovich Limitation Effect); once a time traveler reaches certain events, they are part of those events and cannot withdraw from them. But the Time War is not said to be crystallized; it is said to be outright locked. The term used is time-lock, which can be broken (at great cost -- in the case of Dalek Caan, his sanity). This would contradict previous explanations - unless the "time lock" is something different entirely.
 
So, what is the time lock? Who put it there? Well, that's another pair of hands entirely.
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* I had always asumed his regeneration from 2>3 was supposed to be a punishment, rather than inprison or execute the Doctor they made literarly loose roughly 500 years of his life. And that's terrible.
== Other Ten is the Valeyard. ==
It's only a matter of time before the Cybus universe gets revisited. Other Ten has already committed "genocide", demonstrating a marked ability to be [[Darker and Edgier|darker and edgier]] than the regular Doctor. His abbreviated lifespan puts a sense of urgency to his work - he'll be wanting to steal the Doctor's remaining regenerations from him as soon as he can.
* And perhaps "fix" Donna as well in all of this. In a way, she's a living fob watch. Couple that with the "original" Doctor all but rejecting him for being genocidal and dumping him on Rose, and he's bound to resent such implications down the line (especially because Rose can't help BUT compare him to the original). The threefold man will be looking to be make himself whole again -- with the Valeyard as the dominant personality, one who TRULY believes in [[Knight Templar|"no second chances"]].
* If you squint a little, then the Master's statement about the Valeyard coming from somewhere betweeen the Doctor's "twelth and final" regeneration ''doesn't'' rule out Other Ten being the Valeyard's first incarnation. All it requires is for the Tenth Doctor (and by the same token, Other Ten) to have technically entered their 11th life when the averted regeneration took place (which makes Matt Smith's impending incarnation the 12th Doctor, not the 11th) and for the deleted scene where the Doctor gave Other Ten a piece of TARDIS coral to be [[Canon|canonical]]. From there, Other Ten simply needs to grow a TARDIS within his human lifespan using Donna's instructions, travel to a point in Pete's World's future where nanogenes have been invented, and then use nanogenes to purge the human DNA from his body. Then there wouldn't be anything jamming Other Ten's ability to regenerate, meaning that he should still have two regenerations remaining like the Doctor has. Although Other Ten will now have a Time Lord lifespan, he's still conscious of his limited number of regenerations and thus sets about stealing the Doctor's regenerations to extend his own life, requiring him to break through into his dimension of origin. Somewhere along the line, Rose is going to question Other Ten's descent into darkness, perhaps even being responsible for Other Ten's eventual regeneration (ala Chantho and the Master) should Other Ten become hostile toward her during the course of his [[Face Heel Turn]]. Other Ten retreats into the TARDIS upon sustaining fatal injuries, deadlocking the TARDIS closed to prevent anyone from following him, and then undergoes his first regeneration. Upon examining his new body in a mirror, he recognizes it as the familiar visage of the Valeyard and realizes that he is currently at the heart of a [[Stable Time Loop]] that will allow him to travel back in time to Gallifrey prior to the Time War without losing his mind like Dalek Caan did. Having embraced the persona of the Valeyard, Other Ten travels back in time to where the rift between universes can be breached without causing reality itself to collapse and then travels to Gallifrey shortly before the Sixth Doctor's trial, offering to help the Time Lord High Council frame the Doctor in exchange for his remaining lives. Behind the scenes, the Valeyard secretly converts his own TARDIS into a Paradox Machine so he can avert the stable time loop at the last moment without getting eaten by time monkeys. However, unbeknownst to the Valeyard, the Master (in his Ainley incarnation) has been observing his activities for some time and begins making moves of his own to undermine what he sees as a threat greater than that posed by the Doctor himself. Despite the Master's interference, the trial goes ahead as planned; the Valeyard remains poised to avert the time loop and emerge victorious. Unfortunately, the plan hits a snag; events proceed as the Valeyard remembers them in spite of the Paradox Machine, and he survives at the last moment only by using the Matrix to seize control of the Keeper. From there, the Valeyard/Other Ten's whereabouts remain unknown.
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== Donna's [[Victory-Guided Amnesia]] was just a ruse. ==
Oh, yes, the DoctorDonna will return. And she'll team up with Jenny, Martha, and Sarah Jane to form "The Girls From N.U.R.S.E.", a blatant ''[[CharliesCharlie's Angels]]'' spoof readily picked up by American markets due to the fact that it makes a hell of a lot more sense than ''Cleopatra 2525'' ever did. Special guest stars include Rose for wacky parallel-universe hijinks and Joanna Lumley's 13th Doctor (from ''Curse of Fatal Death'') for a [[Very Special Episode]] about Jenny's lack of stable parental figures.
 
== The River Song adventures already happened, but The Doctor doesn't remember ==
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== The Valeyard shot JFK in an 11/9 (or 13/9) crossover to [[Make Wrong What Once Went Right]]. ==
Same as above, but Nine's unheeded suspicions were correct. Eleven or 13 (after using [[Retroactive Preparation]] by way of the [[Write Back to Thethe Future]] method or setting up an [[Exposition Beam]]) erased Nine's and/or (if Eleven) his own memories of the event so the Valeyard wouldn't remember what happened and Nine through Whichever could live without the guilt.
 
== The Doctor Hunter in episode 1 of the revived series faked all of his evidence but two pictures. ==
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== Jack becomes the Time Vortex. ==
If he isn't the Face of Boe (either because he was messing with The Doctor or because that really was just a coincidental nickname), and thus does die, the universe would be full of Jacks that hit the end of the universe and went back in time. Eventually, Jack finds a way to [[Ascend to Aa Higher Plane of Existence]] and starts living outside of time. I chose the Time Vortex specifically because this is why it and Rose made Jack immortal: Because if he wasn't made immortal, the Vortex itself wouldn't exist. Funnily enough, this means Jack got into Rose's pants before the Doctor could, even if was only by wearing them while possessing her.
** This is a bit like the whole Barry Allen thing they had in the DC comics ''Crisis On Infinite Earths'', where the Flash upon death ''became'' the lightning bolt which gave him his powers in the first place. This is interetsing (and actually doesn't nessecarily undo the Face of Boe thing.)
** And then there's the line...
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== "[[Time Crash|The exact size of Belgium]]" is a code set as a [[Shout-Out]] by an elder Tenth doctor, or the Eleventh or Twelfth Doctor. ==
The TARDIS fused at least two of herself, but the Davison Doctor and the Tennant Doctor never fused because they were separate regenerations. Ten either fused with his later incarnation, or Ten/Eleven/Twelve were out of the ship. "The exact size of Belgium" was later set as the code which means, "The exact size of 'big enough that we're [[The HitchhikersHitchhiker's Guide to Thethe Galaxy|**** ]]ed'."
 
== Chaucer says "What the Cædmon?" ==
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== The Tenth doctor trying to spare the Master and Davros wasn't as crazy as it seemed ==
It WAS crazy mind you, but not that crazy. Why would it be a good idea to spare these genocidal nutbars when he's so ruthlessy dispatched other dangerous enemies? [[Not Quite Dead|Because they keep coming back.]] [[Genre Savvy|And he knows it will happen.]] So the Doctor figures, rather than seemingly killing them, and then being surprised when they return and start wrecking shit, it's better to keep them alive and watch them himself, like he had intended to do to the Master at the end of series 3 (you know, the guy who got shot, and came [[Back From the Dead]]). This is especially prudent with the Master, because the Doctor has seen the lengths his old [[Friendly Enemy|Frenemy]] will go to survive ([[WTH? Casting Agency|Eric Roberts...My God!!]]) and realizes it's better to not give him a chance to start fresh. It doesn't really justify everything, but it's a possible ideas about what he was thinking
 
== Except for Sarah Jane Smith (and her son), none of the people the Tenth Doctor said goodbye to will ever appear again in the series. ==
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Lucy didn't seem too surprised that the Master wasn't squealing in agony over being shot in the heart. The Master had planned his "final" encounter with the Doctor in advance. Lucy would shoot him in his heart, so he could stress out the Doctor, who, having so much else on his mind, would forget that timelords have two hearts. Then, just before he was "burned" by the doctor, he called his TARDIS and left. The way Steven Moffat's mind works, the actual (not a reincarnated version, like in "The End of Time") Master is bound to return.
 
== Doctor Who's in the same universe as [[Tim Burton|Tim Burton's]] [[Alice in Wonderland (Filmfilm)|Alice in Wonderland]] ==
 
In ''The Pandorica Opens'', the Doctor finds River's message in a place that looks suspiciously similar to that movie. Also, Tweedledum and Tweedledee are actually Sontarans.
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* This is an excellent theory. It totally makes sense as maybe all timelords borrow DNA {{spoiler|as it completely works for River Song/Melody Pond who has regenerated twice, once being around a homeless man picking up looks from him and again around The Doctor and her parents, picking up traits and looks from them}}.
== Rose and The Doctor weren't just holding hands that whole time. ==
They were giving eachother [[Star Trek (Franchise)|Vulcan kisses!]]
 
== The Doctor is wrong about Time being alterable ==
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* '''...Romana.'''
** Timothy Dalton's Time Lords appear to be a fairly sinister bunch. Given their history, though, it would make sense for there to be good ones as well, and what better choice to represent them than a regenerated Romana?
** She opposed Rassilon's plan. The Doctor taught her well. Also, Rassilon probably overthrew her after ''[[The Farmer and Thethe Viper|she had him resurrected]]''.
** The EU maintains that she had become president of the council by the time of the beginning of the Time War, so she'd most likely have kept a seat on the senate even after being removed. Plenty of opportunity, and also lots of calls to bring her back.
*** There was also (I believe) mention of a "President Romana" in one of the Annuals released way back in 2005 or 2006.
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== Most of the population of London felt very foolish on Christmas Day, 2008. ==
They all left town expecting yet another alien invasion, which never happened because [[Meanwhile in Thethe Future|the Doctor was in the Victorian era instead]], and were roundly mocked by pundits/comedians/etc.; as a result many or most of them stay in London over Christmas 2009.
 
Of course, the events of Christmas 2009 appear to be world-encompassing, so they don't provide a particularly good argument for leaving London in 2010...
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* Well, they're all wearing Prydonian colors, and the Prydonian chapter was sort of the [[Harry Potter|Slytherin House]] of Time Lord society...
** The Doctor's Prydonian, I think Romana was, and Borusa was fine until he went insane. Try again.
* [[Word of God]] ([[Russell T. Davies]]) confirms this. He said "I've always known the Time Lords were evil."
 
== Wilfred Mott is an aged, weakened and retired Thirteenth Doctor near the end of his life, likely having used the Chameleon Arch. ==
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== Jenny will take the Doctor's place after his final incarnation (or death) ==
How do you continue a series, when your [[The Nth Doctor]] excuse has a limit? Replace him with a similar character which would nevertheless allow the show to move in a different direction. It's plausible that Jenny could aqquire a TARDIS, a sonic screwdriver and essentially become a female version of the Doctor. Personally I'm against her replacing the Doctor himself, but wouldn't objecty to her starring in [[K 9|yet]] [[The Sarah Jane Adventures (TV)|another]] [[Torchwood (TV)|spin-off]].
* Hopefully, you are correct if the Doctor truly has a limit of twelve regenerations. Perhaps she shall gain the ability to regenerate somehow (if she doesn't have that capability already), and will regenerate into males (at least some of the time). Being a clone of the Doctor, she may start referring to herself by that name, effectively replacing the original Time Lord.
 
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That last little bit sounds kinda like something the Doctor would say to River about River, since they were in the "Slap Slap" part of their relationship at that point (and he was really angry at River for manipulating him.) "Written by a madman" explains itself, but doesn't "slow in the middle" and "barely readable" sound like what would happen when somebody who despises [[The Slow Path]] had to write down all the info he knows about something. Maybe he learned from Sally Sparrow's example and decided to write down a warning about the Angels. He might not have even knew he wrote it.
 
== Jack's butt is [[Bigger Onon the Inside]]. ==
Explains where he got that gun in ''Bad Wolf''.
 
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== Every writer who dreams their stories is a Time Lord that used the Chameleon Arch ==
 
Over the millennia, they all had their own reasons to become human, but they never rediscovered their true selves and lived and died human. Which means [[Tomato in Thethe Mirror|you could be a Time Lord]] [[Paranoia Fuel|and never know it.]]