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* The Thing of ''[[Fantastic Four (Comic Book)|Fantastic Four]]'' never gives up, no matter how often his opponents may have beaten him before.
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'''Blastaar:''' Bold talk from a man [[You Can Barely Stand|who can barely stand]]. And you still make threats.
'''The Thing:''' Not a threat. '''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|A promise.]]''' }}
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'''The Champion:''' No, I could never defeat you. I could crush your bones and break your body, but I could never break your spirit. }}
* Also, say what you like about [[Doctor Doom]], but his obsessive, all-consuming hatred of Reed Richards never, ever, ''ever'' dies, and he ''will'' keep living, and fighting, and plotting Richards' ultimate and final defeat until one of them is dead. [[Comic Book Death|And even then he will not give up.]]
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'''Batman''': Do you think we can take them? I think we can take them.
'''Superman''': You always think we can take them.
(Spoiler alert: {{spoiler|turns out they can take them}}.) }}
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'''Jason''': * heh* ... Maybe it ''is''. }}
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** Superman's Determinator status is best encapsulated in the following quote from "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?", in which he handily defeats a cynical [[Nineties Anti
* ''[[The Tick (animation)|The Tick]]''. Some would say this is just because he's too dumb to ever know when he's in over his head, but hey, it works.
* ''[[The Mask (
* [[The Mighty Thor]]
* Basically every main character in ''[[Sin City]]'': Hartigan, Marv, Dwight, Wallace... some of the predicaments that these characters find themselves in are flabbergasting, yet they never show more than the slightest notion of fear in their endeavors.
** The very first Sin City yarn is a prime example of this trope. A [[Hooker
* The graphic novel ''[[
** It's also important to note, in final day of the real life battle, the Thespians (from Thermopylae not the other kind) who also stayed with the Spartans to the end to protect the allied retreat. The Thebians, on the other hand... not so much (they eventually surrendered).
* The to be-Saint of Killers from ''[[Preacher (Comic Book)]]'' managed to retain his mind even in death by pure hatred of the two men who he had swore vengeance on. And ''then'' he became invincible, and unstoppable, and the world trembled at the thunder of his guns.
* In the Marvel ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' continuity, Snake-Eyes has just been in a helicopter crash, his crush is badly injured, and his head and throat have been burned and implanted with shrapnel-like shards of glass. Ordered to stand down, he writers two letters in the sand: C M. '''C'''ontinue '''M'''ission. Then, he all but single-handedly pulls the mission off.
* Rorschach from ''[[Watchmen (
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* ''[[Wolverine]]'': Healing factor + [[Power Creep, Power Seep]] + REALLY BAD TEMPER = Pants-wettingly tenacious.
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'''Wolverine:''' You're wrong, lil' darlin'. There's something I can do real good. The real thing I do best ... I don't give up. Ever. I'm expectin' you not to give up, either. }}
* ''[[Captain America (comics)]]'' defeats superpowered opponents with both his incredible fighting skills... and the fact that he just won't quit!
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* And [[Spider-Man (Comic Book)|Spider-Man]] could be his protege. That's almost as much a part of the character as Spider-Sense and webslinging.
** Protege? Are you kidding? There is not a single major villain in his roster that isn't at least half again as powerful as Spidey. This is what he does.
** One very early example was the very first Spider-Man Annual which introduced the Sinister Six. Spider-Man lost his powers and then still went to face the six most dangerous villains he had (at the time) ever fought one after another because it was his responsibility. He got his powers back after the first fight, but even so, it was a difficult gauntlet that, to this day, he has no idea how he survived. As he relates to Mary Jane years later, "I just kept going and going, from one fight to the next, until I had finally beaten them all.
** For one of the best examples, check out ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #229-230, where Spidey tries to stop the Juggernaut
** Or for that matter, ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #270, where Spider-Man actually *stops* Firelord, leaving the full roster of active Avengers that were riding in as the cavalry to stand around with their mouths agape. When Captain America is impressed, you are officially impressive.
** Once he kept A WHOLE, TALL BUILDING from falling, on his shoulders, allowing everyone to escape. Should be noted that, despite him having super-strength, that's WAY beyond what his powers should allow him, so it almost killed him. And he did it WHILE INJURED.
** Another time, he single-handedly defeated Thermite, Blitz, Eel, Vanisher, Plantman, Tangle, the Super-Adaptoid, Dreadnought and Dragon Man. It's impressive if you consider that just between the Super-Adaptoid, Dreadnought or Dragon Man, they usually required a whole team of Avengers to be stopped.
** There's also the "If This Be My Destiny!" story (aka the "Master Planner" storyline) in ''Amazing Spider-Man #33''. After Doctor Octopus stole medicine that had been meant for his Aunt, Spidey tore the entire city apart trying to find him before confronting the villain in his underwater lair, only to have half the complex fall on him; he was pinned under tons of cement and concrete, and as an omen of his terrible luck, the canister was just out of his reach, as if some higher power was cruelly taunting him. He metaphorically tells said higher power to go to hell, and somehow manages to lift the whole weight off his back in order to recover it.
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'''Spider-Man:''' Because then, Norman, you would win. And I will never give you the satisfaction. }}
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* The [[Green Lantern]] Corps is full of Determinators, with Hal Jordan being a big one. Seeing as their rings are fueled by will power, this is probably a given.
** Alan Scott, while not a member of the Corps, ''[http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2007/05/the_highlight_r_1.html wrote the book on willpower!]''
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* In the seventh issue of the original ''[[Daredevil]]'' series (wherein he changes from the yellow costume to his more familiar all-red ensemble), Daredevil alone faces off against the Sub-Mariner in a desperate bid to keep him from demolishing Manhattan in a fit of rage. Broken and beaten to a pulp, he still tries to stand and challenge Namor; this feat of courage and determination is so moving to him that he immediately leaves for Atlantis out of respect. ''Hard. Core.'' Namor even remarks that he has faced off against many very powerful enemies, from the Fantastic Four to the Avengers, but never had he seen such bravery, and from the most vulnerable challenger of all.
** '''''Born Again'''''. 'Nuff said.
* ''[[Legion of Super-Heroes]]'':
** Bouncing Boy was rejected by the team ''five times'' before they let him in the sixth time. After later becoming semi-retired and becoming a reserve member, he eventually became a mentor to younger members and an occasional leader.
** No superhero has ''ever'' wanted something more than Polar Boy wanted to be a member of the team. He actually slept outside the entrance so he could be the first to apply! Being turned down because he couldn’t control his powers was, to him, a lifelong dream being crushed, but he kept his chin up and formed the Legion of Substitute Heroes with some other rejected applicants, eventually learning to control his powers, and after he and he Subs defeated (and humiliated) an army of duplicates of [[The Dreaded| Computo the Conqueror]], he not only made it to the true Legion (who waived the age limit rules simply to admit him), but became the leader of it.
* Friday in ''[[Rogue Trooper]]'', when he crosses two hundred miles in a few days to take down Highsight while being occasionally attacked by rogue grunts.
* ''[[RED]]'' has Paul Moses, although this is more because despite the fact that he's an old man and retired, several teams of professional killers sent after him and an entire building full of soldiers he has to fight through do not deter him in the slightest. They send wave after wave of men at him and he slaughters all of them without so much as a scratch.
* [[Judge Dredd]]. With no means of transportation left to him, he travels through Death Valley on foot to deliver a plague vaccine to a desperate Mega City Two ("The Cursed Earth"). With Mega City One left defenseless and completely open to saturation bombing and invasion, he refuses to surrender his city to East Meg One ("Apocalypse War"). With his eyes ripped out, he still blindly runs a gauntlet against a psychic mutant monstrosity that can remodel the world around him ("City of the Damned"). There's just no stopping the guy.
** In ''Necropolis'', the Dark Judges burnt his face off, threw him into an acid river and left him for dead in the radioactive wilderness. Big mistake..
* Surprisingly enough, ''[[
** To be honest, it was hardly "[[BFG|just]]" a sniper rifle.
* Smiley Bone from [[Bone]] shows elements of this from time to time, either because he's stupid or insanely optimistic.
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* This is [[The Hulk]] to a T, especially when his loved ones are in danger. Regular Bruce Banner as well, he tries to save the day even when he ''can't'' turn into the Hulk. With just his brain and his wits.
* The Blue Knight of ''[[Astro City]]'', who once hunted a small-time crook over several months for the crime of ''unloading stolen merchandise.''
* The Fabulous Frog-Man is a doughy young man in a frog suit that he doesn't know how to use. But when faced with a villain, no matter how horribly outmatched he may be, he'll never stop bouncing back to give it another go. [[Captain America (comics)]] lauds this irrepressible perseverance, but also notes that this can be ''very bad'', saying Frog-Man is the type that makes him fear another [[Marvel Civil War|Stamford]].
* During the "In The Beginning" arc of ''[[The Punisher]]'', a psychotic Mafia enforcer named Pittsy quickly becomes the subject of Frank Castle's ire. After the Punisher bashes his head and injures his eye in an earlier fight, Pittsy sneaks into Castle's armory and continues their battle. Castle beats him, stabs him and gouges his eye, all the while Pittsy is screaming vulgarities and continuing to attack. Castle finally throws the gangster out a window, where he lands on and is impaled by a wrought-iron fence. {{spoiler|Later, when Castle is engaging other gangsters outside, he is shocked to see Pittsy still alive, walking with a portion of the fence still impaled through his body and still madly desiring to kill Castle. The Punisher shoots him the face with a shotgun, but the gangster still manages to walk a few more steps after that before falling. Castle tries to convince himself these last few steps were just a reflex from a dying body.}}
* The titular [[Ax Crazy]] [[Hate Plague]] infectees in ''[[
* The Kraken in ''[[The Umbrella Academy]]''. Despite having the near-useless power to breathe underwater, he's one tough mother, and probably the most formidable and successful crime-fighter on the team.
* [[Doctor Strange]] has been in too many situations to count where, if he had given up, he would be dead. In one memorable story he faced D'Spayre, the personification of the [[Despair Event Horizon]], and still managed to dredge up the scrap of hope needed to defeat him.
* This is -THE- essence of [[Donald Duck]], the ultimate everyman. Life is grim, he rarely triumphs, when he does his victories tend to be hollow, no one gives him a break...and yet, he'll always keep on trying. There will be no job he won't tackle, no task he'll turn down if the thinks he can succeed at it, despite every single thing going against him.
* In one ''[[Etrigan]]'' story<ref>''The Brave and the Bold'', vol. 1, no. 137</ref>, a villain [[Baleful Polymorph| turns Jason Blood into a fly]], leaving him helpless and unable to talk, meaning he is unable to say the magic words to turn himself into the Demon. It doesn't stop him for long, as he ''manages to spell out the phrase in dust by walking on it.''
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