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[[All The Tropes:Examples Need Context/Laconic|Laconic version]]
 
'''Examples Need Context''' is a wiki policy intend to keep reading the wiki more informative for everyone. A '''Zero Context Example''' is an example with with insufficient explanatory text, even if it isn't entirely absent.
 
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:* [[Fiery Redhead]]
 
On a work page, this conveys essentially no meaning. Even if there is only one redhead in the story, at least go ahead and label the fireyfiery-haired one.
 
This classic Zero Context Example is ''barely acceptable'' in certain places where the context is obvious, like on a character sheet. But really, wouldn't it be much better if you gave an example of how fiery she actually is? Provide context wherever you can -- even if it's not that great of an example, people can fix it up later.
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This kind of example is not acceptable anywhere.
 
;The lazy policy dodge:
:* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: TBA
 
An example that was rejected in moderation here. It's awful in every way that the "policy dodge" example above is, ''and'' it says that the troper hasn't actually done the work yet.
 
This kind of example is not acceptable anywhere. If you're going to write the example later, then write the entire example later; don't leave people hanging.
 
;The [[Shaped Like Itself]] work:
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This is even worse on a page like [[Crazy Awesome]], which is subjective anyway. It may well be a superlative example, but if the reader hasn't seen it, he has no way to judge if you're correct or not. Best to <del>pierce the heavens</del> add a longer example.
 
There are other variants of this, like "[[Self Explanatory|Self-explanatory]]" (nope), or "and HOW!!" (how exactly?), or "[[egregious]] offender" (how offensive?), "a textbook case" (All The Tropes isn't a school), "That is all" (no, that's nowhere near enough for people who aren't familiar with the work), or "in general" (please be specific), which provide equally little context on their own.
 
This is also not acceptable anywhere.
 
;The example that's missing vital information
:* While fighting the reborn Emperor and his forces, the Skywalkers came across a cyborg Jedi Knight named Empatojayos Brand who had survived the Purge (barely). He followed them and helped defeat Palpatine, but, as the Sith Lord had transferred his soul from cloned body to cloned body to escape death, he launched his spirit at the infant Anakin Solo. Brand interposed his damaged body in between Palaptine and Anakin and used the Force to bind Palpatine to him as he died, thus ridding the galaxy of the Emperor forever.
 
The above was listed on "Heroic Sacrifice/Comics", and discovered by a mod while that page was being prepared to be split into "Heroic Sacrifice/Comic Books" and "Heroic Sacrifice/Newspaper Comics". The problem with this example is that ''it doesn't say which work it's from'' - ''[[Star Wars]]'' had both comic books and newspaper comics back in the day. And if it is from one of the comic book runs, which one? As a result, "Heroic Sacrifice/Comics" could not be cleaned up without identifying this work first.
 
Examples that don't identify the work that they're from are not acceptable anywhere.
 
;The [[Wiki Walk]]ing Stick
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Also, if somebody re-writes the trope page to name the subtropes instead of numbering them, "Type 3", "Type 2", and similar cites become worse than useless. ([[MacGuffin]] is an example here; it has no numbered subtropes on its page, but it has a long list of named subtropes with their own pages.)
 
Barely acceptable on athe page that classifies the examples; otherwise not acceptable.
 
;The bare essentials:
:* [[Fast Roping]]: The clone troopers in Episode III employ this trope.
 
Okay, this tells us something, but not much. Still, it's enough to justify its continued existence on a page. You can definitely do better!
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* [[All The Tropes:Style Guide/Spoilers]]
* [[Just a Face and a Caption]] -- the visual counterpart of "Examples Need Context"
* [[Small Reference Pools]] -- why things that are obvious to one person are not obvious to somebody else
And needing to be reviewed:
* [[All The Tropes:How to Write An Example|How to Write an Example]]