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== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[Forgotten Realms|Magic of Faerun]]'' has one given by Khelben Blackstaff to an intruder he's about to kill as its intro.

== Theater ==
* [[Hamlet]] is the master of these. He gives one to Ophelia ("Get thee to a nunnery"), two to his mother ("You are the queen, your husband's brother's wife and would it were not so, you are my mother", "Shame, where is thy blush"), one to Laertes ("You'll mouth, I'll rant as well") and one to Claudius at the end while giving him a [[Rasputinian Death]].
{{quote|'''Hamlet:''' Here thou incestuous, murderous, damned Dane, drink of this potion, is thy union here? Follow my mother. ([[Captain Obvious|''King dies'']].)}}
* One of the female leads in Neil LaBute's ''Reasons to Be Pretty''. Earlier, though the comment is never stated outright, it's implied that her boyfriend has said she was just "regular" in comparison to a female coworker who was "hot," and things quickly soured between them. She breaks up with her boyfriend and delivers one of these speeches to him in front of a crowded mall, commenting on how he stinks after work, his nostrils are unattractive, his penis is small, and they have unimaginative sex.
* In John Adams' opera ''The Death of Klinghoffer,'' the wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer delivers one of these to the terrorists, about how he and his wife generally try to be good people while the terrorists are, well, terrorists.
* ''[[The Boys in the Band]]''. Harold gives the Mother of All Reads to Michael.
{{quote|'''Harold:''' Now it's my turn, and ready or not, Michael, here goes: you're a sad and pathetic man. You're a homosexual and you don't want to be, but there's nothing you can do to change it. Not all the prayers to your God, not all the analysis you can buy, in all the years you've go left to live. You may one day be able to know a heterosexual life - if you want it desperately enough, if you pursue it with the fervor with which you annihilate. But you'll always be homosexual as well. Always Michael. Always. Until the day you die.}}
* Done in ''[[Man of La Mancha]]'' by the Knight of the Mirrors (actually Carrasco in disguise), with attendants pushing mirrors into Don Quixote's face every way he turns:
{{quote|"Look! Don Quixote! Look in the mirror of reality and behold things as they truly are. Look! What seest thou, Don Quixote? A gallant knight? Naught but an aging fool! Look! Dost thou see him? A madman dressed for a masquerade! Look, Don Quixote! See him as he truly is! See the clown! Drown, Don Quixote. Drown--drown in the mirror. Go deep--the masquerade is ended! Confess! Thy lady is a trollop, and thy dream the nightmare of a disordered mind!"}}
* ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'' by [[William Shakespeare]] ends with the titular "shrew," Katharina, giving a very biting - and long - "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Bianca and the Widow:
{{quote|'''Katharina:''' Such duty as the subject owes the prince
Even such a woman oweth to her husband;
And when she is froward, peevish, sullen, sour,
And not obedient to his honest will,
What is she but a foul contending rebel
And graceless traitor to her loving lord?
I am ashamed that women are so simple
To offer war where they should kneel for peace;
Or seek for rule, supremacy and sway... }}
** This speech is the reason this play is called Shakespeare's Ode to Wifebeating
*** Which is a gross oversimplification of the play and its themes.
* Roma gave one to Williamson in ''[[Glengarry Glen Ross]]''. "Who told you you can work with men!?"
** Subverted with Shelly Levene who, having spent the entire movie as Williamson's [[Butt Monkey]], eagerly takes the opportunity to take up where Roma left off and get a little payback. {{spoiler|Unfortunately for him, he gets carried away, makes a stupid slip, and gives Williamson an opportunity to destroy him utterly.}}
* Mr. Cladwell to Bobby in the ''[[Urinetown]]'' song ''Act 1 Finale''
* ''[[Evita]]'' has ''Waltz for Evita and Che'' which is the two of them doing this to each other
* A good chunk of "Goodbye Love" from [[Rent]] is this between Roger and Mark.
* Stanley to Blanche in ''[[A Screetcar Named Desire]]''. Also happens in the film adaption.
{{quote|Take a look at yourself here in a worn-out Mardi Gras outfit, rented for 50 cents from some rag-picker. And with a crazy crown on. Now what kind of a queen do you think you are? Do you know that I've been on to you from the start, and not once did you pull the wool over this boy's eyes? You come in here and you sprinkle the place with powder and you spray perfume and you stick a paper lantern over the light bulb - and, lo and behold, the place has turned to Egypt and you are the Queen of the Nile, sitting on your throne, swilling down my liquor. And do you know what I say? Ha ha! Do you hear me? Ha ha ha! }}

== Web Original ==
* Slowbeef gives one of these to Quadraxis14 in the SNES9X ''[[Retsupurae]]''. Here is the speech without the [[Verbal Tic]]:
{{quote|Shut up! There are no viewers. No one watched this to the end except me. It is a seriously horrible video, Quadraxis14. [[Scrub|There is no skill in]] [[Save Scumming|replaying the same thing over and reloading save states over and over again]]. A monkey could do this. A kid can do this. It doesn't matter. I don't know what the point of the video is. I don't know why you're doing it. It will not make you popular in school. It will not get you girls or anything. It's a waste of time. I'm sorry. I'm taking away from "On Liberty".}}
* ''[[Atop the Fourth Wall]]'' example: {{spoiler|Mechakara masquerading as the genuine article}} delivers a particularly chilling one to his '''entire fanbase''':
{{quote|Well, I think it's obvious whose fault [[The Ultimates|Ultimates 3]] is. You. Yes, you. The audience of this show. [[Reviews Are the Gospel|You sycophantic worms will buy anything dished out to you.]] They told you this garbage was gold and you believed it. Just like if I had said something was good or bad, you'll believe me instantly. So go on. Continue being the mindless, dreary-eyed, ugly bags of fat that I can call my fans.}}
* ''[[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog]]'' has [[Smug Super|Captain Hammer]] deliver one disguised as a [[Rousing Speech]] with the song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yGeroywBuo&NR=1 "Everyone's A Hero"]. Pretty much everyone in the audience is fooled save for [[The Messiah|Penny]], who openly looks shocked at the context of the song.<ref>And said shock may or may not have been based off of one line: "Yeah, we totally had sex."</ref>
{{quote|''I’m poverty’s new sheriff
''And I’m bashing in the slums
''A hero doesn’t care
''If you’re a bunch of scary alcoholic bums! Everybody! }}
** Dr. Horrible delivers a subsequent one with "Slipping", calling Captain Hammer's audience out on their [[Dying Like Animals]] devotion to their hero.
* [[The Spoony Experiment|The Spoony One]] did one for both ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]'' and its fans.
** He recently did another for the people who didn't like [[Mass Effect 3]]'s ending
* Inverted in an [[Over the Gun]] [[Let's Play]] of ''[[Braid]]'' where he ''gives one to himself'' after losing a (rewind-immune) key to a [[Mook]].
{{quote|It's only ''me'' that could manage to do that! Oh, he's such a ''cock''! I- I want me key off you, mate, but... but I dunno how I'm gonna do it, though! It's okay me saying I want it back off ya, but you've got my number, haven't you? That's not good news. That's a goomba with a look on his face, as if to say "I am protected by these weird mechanics. I am gonna jump off your head. Not only that - I have got your key." He looks quite, quite serious... he doesn't look phased by the fact I'm stood underneath him; he's gonna stomp my face through. [[Crowning Moment of Funny|This is the first time in twenty one years of gaming that I have been bested by a goomba]].}}
* 4chan has [http://www.1337upload.net/files/Furfagsqg9.png this] to say to the furry community.
** A furry artist named Metal-Kitty made one for Furry Haters. [https://web.archive.org/web/20151030154827/http://metal-kitty.deviantart.com/art/Furry-Analysis-2-100341852]
* A video by a user named Armake21 made one of these for the [[Irate Gamer]], who got him kicked off youtube for it.
* In ''[[I'm a Marvel And I'm a DC|I'm a Marvel... And I'm a DC]]'', [[The Joker]] delivers one of these to [[Darkseid]] after his explanation of [[Inn Between the Worlds|Stan's Place]] is rejected due to Darkseid having "no interest in the world of fiction."
{{quote|'''The Joker:''' You ''don't know...'' (Begins to laugh hysterically)
'''Darkseid:''' What? Another Earth joke?
'''The Joker:''' The biggest one ever! The mother of all jokes! And the best part is, you're the ''butt'' of it! Oh, I hate to break it to ya, pallie, but I'm afraid the only reality you know ''is'' the world of fiction!
'''Darkseid:''' Ah, so it's madness. Not an uncommon reaction to one's impending doom. Still-
'''The Joker:''' Oh, I was mad long before you came along, oh Lord of Pain and Suffering and... [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|Blue Shorts.]] And even I have a better grip on reality than you. Those other realities that Stan's Place links to? They're all comic book universes- just like this one! All the heroes meet up at that bar so they can shoot the breeze about who's getting a movie next. And no wonder you're so interested in Stan- he's the one person there who's ''not'' a comic book character. If there's anyone dominating reality, its ''him'', not you. In fact, what was it you said about comic books before? Ah yes, they're "insignificant endeavours in entertainment on a pathetic planet"- of which ''YOU are one!'' (Laughs hysterically before Darkseid vapourises him.)
'''Darkseid:''' ''[White hot fury]'' [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|That's. Not. Funny.]] }}
** In the first season of "After Hours," Lex Luthor gave one to Superman in an attempt to recruit him in joining him in his plan to [[Ret-Gone]] the Marvel Universe:
{{quote|'''Lex Luthor:''' The Marvel Universe has corrupted everything you stand for all in the name of high drama. Think about it Kal-El. Your job is to be an inspiration for people, someone they can look up to, someone they can aspire to be like; in steadfastness, in character, in ideals. And what did Marvel offer? They said don’t worry; you don’t have to aspire to anyone in our books. You just have to relate to them. And now we have an entire culture that thinks that who they are is just fine and how dare anyone suggest they can improve themselves? Why aspire to be Superman when it’s so much easier to relate to Spider-Man? No one wants to look up to you anymore, Superman. They don’t want to strain their necks. Instead they look straight ahead at the compromised heroes in front of them and say "That’ll do just fine".}}
* Dr. Loomis gives one to Michael in the ''[[Halloween (film)|Halloween]]'' fan film, ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdSLknxsvc&feature=relmfu The Last Halloween]''. {{spoiler|Michael doesn't take it well.}}
* A big one comes from ''Erika's Old Big Sister'', the sequel to ''[[Erikas New Perfume]]'', in which Marie gets the [[Fountain of Youth]] effects on her undone and proceeds to become the ultimate [[Big Brother Bully|Big Sister Bully]] while trying (and failing) to rebuild her teenage social status. The speech comes in the climax, when Marie tries to {{spoiler|undo Sarah's [[Plot-Relevant Age-Up]], causing Erika to [[Beware the Nice Ones|snap]] and lay into Marie that all her problems stem from her own jealousy and self-loathing, that her bratty nature better suits the lifestyle of a three-year-old than a 16-year-old, and that [[World of Cardboard Speech|she is now strong enough to]] [[Not Afraid of You Anymore|handle whatever Marie can dish out]]. Marie is hit ''hard'' by this and, realizing that Erika is right, requests to return to toddlerhood.}}
* In [[Kickassia]], [[The Nostalgia Critic]] recieves one from {{spoiler|dream!}}Ma-Ti. He gets told such pearls of wisdom as:
{{quote|"Stop being a douchebag! It's totally going to backfire!"
"Are you willing to let down the people that got you here? Your friends? Your allies!"
"You're a fool, Critic! A damn fool! You cannot change your destiny! You can only choose to meet it!...and you will fail." }}
* In [[Arby 'n' the Chief]], Arbiter dishes one out to Master Chief in Season 6 for just how much he has de-volved in emotional growth, only for Chief to [[Take That|return the favor by pointing out all of Arbiter's flaws as well.]]
{{quote|'''Arbiter:''' "...You've always been an utter moron, but there was a time when it was at least somewhat charming. You didn't know any better. It was innocent. But now it's like you're self-aware to some degree. Instead of shouting outrageous things in sheer ignoreance it's like you're genuinely out to antagonize and hurt people. It's not funny anymore...
'''Master Chief:''' "wat, u think ur n e funs 2 lived w/? ...when ur not paraeding around h33r pretending 2 sound samrt ur sitting arond all :( drinking all teh bewze whining liek a little cunt about hao much dick ur lief sux..." }}
* The Webshow [[TV Trash]] features a series of episodes where Chris "Rowdy C" Moore watches three of the most controversial [[Family Guy]] episodes ever. After sitting through "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" (arguably the most despised episode among Tropers), Rowdy concludes "Family Guy Month" by "talking" to [[Seth MacFarlane]].
{{quote|And so, after a full month of pointing out some of the worst "Family Guy" has churned out, what else is there to say? (shows a picture of [[Seth MacFarlane]]; cuts back to Rowdy) Fine, I'll tell you. You have become one of the worst examples of comedy out there. You've not only [[The Scrappy|made all]] [[Creator's Pet|your characters]] [[Jerkass|as unlikable]] [[Character Derailment|as possible]], but you do nothing but pile on insult after insult of anyone out there that's more famous than you, and rail against [[The Flintstones|nearly every TV show]] [[The Simpsons (animation)|that paved the way for yours]], giving hardly any evidence other than "Trust me, it sucks." Yeah, I insult TV shows, but I try to back it up with logic. I also give examples of good stuff that hopefully show I'm not just some [[Jerkass|bitter jealous comedian who goes around hating everything that comes out of Hollywood like you]]. I don't go around claiming that [[Walt Disney|dead children's entertainers]] hate all Jews with no proof. What if I were to suggest that you're just bitter at Disney because they took your best director? God, you're a hypocrite! You know, I can respect you for going after Fox News, but saying it's okay for the Left to be a bunch of liars and frauds because they're your people doesn't work. Oh, and you had to go off on big businesses taking away jobs, but you go and snatch up [[American Dad|almost every piece]] [[The Cleveland Show|of Fox's Sunday night lineup]] [[King of the Hill|once another]] [[Seies/Arrested Development|show gets]] [[Screwed by the Network|dropped]]. And then there's the little fact that your animation is made in KOREA. You want to help American jobs? HAVE YOUR DAMN SHOW DRAWN IN THIS COUNTRY!! And by the way, insulting Southerners doesn't make you better than them. What happened to you claiming they were [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|good at heart]] in "To Love and Die in Dixie"? Oh, right, that was during the time [[Protection From Editors|when network executives could put you in your place]]! But I could forgive all of that if you just weren't so unfunny. That's what you are—a [[Jerkass|bitter]], [[Writer on Board|preachy]], [[Dude, Not Funny|unfunny]] [[Precision F-Strike|ASSHOLE]]!!"}}
** For those who do not know, this speech is a parody of Quagmire telling off Brian in "Jerome is the New Black"
* On the [[American Idol]] forum [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|idolforums]] a poster laid into an overzealous fan who attacked one of the other contestants
{{quote|I agree people have the right to express their opinions, but I have the exact same right. The irony is I actually like both Jessica and Hollie, I may have defended Hollie more lately because of my perception she's being kicked while she's down. I'm sure this is something you can now relate to after Thursday. Quite honestly I should see this as flattering because you and others must have much more faith in her making a come back than I do. I hope IDF represents only a really small percentage of the Idolverse's perceptions, because you're not doing yourself any favors, when Hollie finally does leave her votes are gonna go somewhere and perhaps not where you'd like. But somethings never change and you guys can do what you like and I'll respond when I feel the need}}
* Near the end of ''[[Red vs. Blue]]: Revelation'', Tex delivers a short one to Church after she {{spoiler|shoots him to betray their location to Washington and the Meta}}:
{{quote|'''Tex''': I didn't ask to be paired with you. I didn't ''want'' to come back. But I'm here now, so I'm gonna put an end to this.
'''Church''': Tex, I would have helped you.
'''Tex''': You can't even help ''yourself''. That's why you made me, Church. You made me to take on all the things you can't handle. Just like you always have. Well guess what, I'm gonna handle it. }}

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Latest revision as of 00:37, 3 October 2021

"I always wondered what kind of person could do such a thing. But now that I see you, I think I understand. There’s just nothing inside you. Nothing at all. You’re pathetic and sad and empty."

Not only has Big Bad tried to kill your girlfriend/boyfriend, slain the Team Pet and finally taken over the world, he must grind your self worth into the asphalt and explain to you why, precisely, you failed. This is where he lists all the reasons you are a poor excuse for a hero and never had a prayer of stopping him; you lack the skills, the weapons and the powers needed; you childishly fight for outdated ideals, your costume is ugly and your mentor always hated you.

Frequently a particular brand of Evil Gloating and/or Breaking Them By Talking; it's a lot like the Hannibal Lecture, except in this case the Villain clearly has done something that would seem to suggest he (the bad guy) really is the superior combatant; e.g. the hero has just been punched through a wall and is pinned under rubble as the Villain stands over him with a gun.

In a well done speech, the Bad Guy will state things that even the hero (and audience) can't argue with. Or maybe they're total BS, but it's delivered with such conviction it almost makes the hero (and audience) agree that he was wrong to have dared challenge the villain in the first place.

Sometimes, "The Reason You Suck" Speech makes the point that the people the hero is trying to defend aren't really worth it to begin with. An especially arrogant Big Bad will use "The Reason You Suck" Speech to let the hero know he's just a lesser version of the Big Bad himself, the only difference being he's not saddled with the morals the hero is. A villain going for a low-blow might bring up some previous encounter between the two when he totally owned the hero, as to state that the same thing will happen again.

Villains can also give this to other villains in an Evil vs. Evil setting. The content of this speech is going to be either along the lines of how they're Eviler Than Thou and pointing out flaws and shortcomings in the other villain, like the Magnificent Bastard chiding a Smug Snake for underestimating them and being foolishly unprepared or a Card-Carrying Villain chiding a Knight Templar villain for employing their same methods but claiming to be morally superior to them, or Even Evil Has Standards if the other villain did something they find awful.

A hero worth his salt might respond with his own speech along the lines of a World of Cardboard Speech or a Picard or Kirk Summation, among others. If it's an action movie, the hero will usually just break out a Shut UP, Hannibal and the shootout/fisticuffs will begin. Sometimes the hero survives only because they're Not Worth Killing, in which case they'll invariably prove that they are later in the story. A Crowning Moment of Awesome if the person of the receiving end of the speech is a Jerkass who had it coming, double Crowning Moment of Awesome if a Jerkass gives this to someone and he or she respond with their own to the asshole, humiliating him.

Heroes can also give defeated villains "The Reason You Suck" Speeches, often pointing out their wasted potential or how their obsession with defeating the hero has ruined them, or in the case of the Well-Intentioned Extremist adversary, how they've become everything they've fought against, or how their extremes in trying to bring a better world have done more to ruin it. Heroic "'Reason You Suck' Speeches" come out when the hero's not going to bother with the Kirk Summation or trying to persuade their foe. Chances are, they tried the diplomatic option, and it didn't sink in.

Alternatively, the speech is given by someone who's just frustrated with the other person. This is not an attempt bring down or break an opponent. This is not an exchange between heroes and villains (heck, they might even be friends). This is someone, tired of everything they have to deal with, giving a frank and brutally honest assessment of the person they're dealing with, often in a What the Hell, Hero? moment. This can be prone to backfire with a suitably shallow, self-obsessed, and/or Genre Savvy target; who typically responds with "You've just listed all of my best features!" Will often provoke an attempted refutation or justification from the target; which, depending on the source, can be played for comedy, drama, or Wangst.

Compare to Calling the Old Man Out. Could also be a Take That, Scrappy! where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them.

Compare and contrast the World of Cardboard Speech. See also Did You Actually Believe? Contrast Minor Insult Meltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink a character to tears.

And as a last note; no, this isn't the trope that's about the reasons that characters are bad at speaking. Neither is it a meta Justification for This Loser Is You.

One (really) last note: you'll find that some of these can be subverted to serve as Dare to Be Badass speeches as well.

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