Catherine/Fridge

Fridge Brilliance

 * Vincent always starts the night at the bar with one drink power-up already applied out of a maximum of three. This confused me until I realized, that in every preceding cut scene, Vincent drinks a full glass.
 * Yet another for the fridge; when Vincent is drunk, he walks around in a really odd manner. Until you realize he stumbles around like a
 * Another for the fridge;
 * It's probably more about survival of the fittest. Let's assume that unfaithfulness and inability to commit are inheritable. The mastermind would probably think "What good are these guys? I don't want them to produce the next generation" and so he offs them (which by the way will still drop the population count). At least that's how I see it.
 * Consider the stages where Vincent directly interacts with other sheep, instead of them just falling to their deaths in the background. The bosses for those areas are based off of fear of commitment, which is why you never see the NPC sheep (who all have a constant, specific boss in their Nightmares). So why did he run into  after fighting  ? Because   was also a monster to  ,
 * Why is the Karma Meter in this game leaning towards Unfortunate Implications? Consider that the Nightmare world is under the jurisdiction of  In short, it's Deliberate Values Dissonance.
 * One of the confessional questions is "Are you a masochist or sadist?", with "Sadist" as the "Chaos" answer and "Masochist" as the "Law" answer. The "Good Cheater" ending's credit pictures show To get the "Good Cheater" ending, Vincent has to be mostly, but not fully, committed to Chaos.
 * In both of the Bad endings, Trisha says that it could be considered a "good ending" for Vincent, as the girl he was pursuing may not have been what he really wanted from life. In the credit pictures of the "Good" endings, Vincent looks kind of unhappy, since to get those endings, he must be favoring Law or Chaos enough to win the girl back, but still have some doubts. So, in that sense, maybe the "Good" endings are actually worse than the "Bad" endings in some ways, since Vincent is in a relationship that he isn't completely sure he wants. He only looks fully happy in the "True" endings, where he is completely committed to Law or Chaos.
 * One of the confessional questions is "Boxers or briefs?" -- kind of an odd thing to ask Vincent, since he's clearly already made his choice, so answering "briefs" would just be hypocritical on his part. However,
 * Why does it seem like when they're trading techniques, it's hinting towards "certain techniques"? The fact that they're climbing a tower doesn't help.
 * Casting Laura Bailey and Michelle Ruff to voice Catherine and Katherine respectively in the English version must have been deliberate. Rise and Yukari both represent the Lovers Arcana, which classically represents two paths in life and choosing the one to follow. Guess what Vincent has to deal with?
 * It's implied that every time Vincent has a nightmare, he's actually sleeping with Catherine. All boss battles end with a stream of white shot right at the boss's face while Vincent basks in the afterglow from the door
 * The reason given by  for the nightmares doesn't sound very real at first considering the  . However when you get to the intro for Axis Mundi   admits that the stated reason was really just bull and its real reason was to find.
 * Why does it seem like when they're trading techniques, it's hinting towards "certain techniques"? The fact that they're climbing a tower doesn't help.
 * Casting Laura Bailey and Michelle Ruff to voice Catherine and Katherine respectively in the English version must have been deliberate. Rise and Yukari both represent the Lovers Arcana, which classically represents two paths in life and choosing the one to follow. Guess what Vincent has to deal with?
 * It's implied that every time Vincent has a nightmare, he's actually sleeping with Catherine. All boss battles end with a stream of white shot right at the boss's face while Vincent basks in the afterglow from the door
 * The reason given by  for the nightmares doesn't sound very real at first considering the  . However when you get to the intro for Axis Mundi   admits that the stated reason was really just bull and its real reason was to find.

Fridge Horror
So YHVH needs prayers badly, but there's a minority who don't believe in him, and they are disrupting society to the point of Rage Against the Heavens. What does he do with the minority? This is implied by.
 * Fridge Horror: What if
 * I know
 * Wait, I thought
 * She could
 * Since it was just  was just a  . Whether or not   especially since we don't know if it really was.
 * More Fridge Horror
 * She could
 * Since it was just  was just a  . Whether or not   especially since we don't know if it really was.
 * More Fridge Horror
 * Let's assume  was having the nightmares for keeping   from a relationship that would produce children. How many innocent unsuspecting LGBT people could have or did die because of   wanting grandkids?
 * It seems to mainly be an issue of people leading their partners on.  Transpeople who disclose their history to their partners probably wouldn't be affected since everyone involved would either leave the relationship or choose to stay with the full knowledge that it won't result in children.
 * In stage 3 of Catherine, Vincent is being chased by an upside-down body with a tongue protruding from the...er...behind. Each monster he faces is stated to have come from his own mind. Well, the next morning, Catherine calls him a "perv" but refuses to expand on what they did...Eww.
 * Later in the game, by meeting the right conditions, Midnight Venus reveals herself as  and congratulates the player character by   with everything that goes with it. The problem?   lovers, even the non-mortal ones, had a tendency to end up dead, as pointed out waaay back in The Epic of Gilgamesh. With that in mind, though, maybe it's better that you don't turn her down.
 * And what if the player is a woman?
 * That isn't a problem for some female players.
 * At various points, there are references to Erika being hurt badly in a previous relationship..
 * There's an easy-to-miss one in the rest area/confession booth thing, from the sixth level on. Talking to the longhaired sheep, you learn that the monster he keeps trying to outrun is his mother, a mother who tried to 'lock him away' but that he escaped and has been running ever since. On one of the landings when you talk to him he mentions that her hands were always cold and that she never let him wear clothes....

Fridge Logic

 * If the point of the Nightmare Sequence has something to do with making babies. Shouldn't it be automatically Unwinnable for
 * ...Wait, what?
 * I know that, but the point of winning the Nightmare Sequence doesn't have something to do with making babies.
 * It is never proven that Erica is having THE nightmares. All the talk seemed to only give her just one, unrelated nightmare.
 * Even if she was having the Nightmare, you don't have to follow  rules to escape. Vincent is able to win even if he takes the Cheaters or Freedom route.
 * If the bosses really wanted to stop Vincent, couldn't just they head for the top and destroy the door or something?
 * But they are heading for the top...
 * It looks like,  , and   are the only bosses who aren't restricted to climbing, so probably not.
 * I know that, but can't the aforementioned bosses just go ahead of Vincent to the top and destroy the door instead of just watching him climb for it?
 * They're probably just moving as fast upwards as they can, or they could probably just ram (heehee) right into Vincent, too.
 * Justin says that the series of unexplained deaths among men happens every hundred years. Later, Wouldn't that have been much more recent than 100 years ago?
 * It isn't certain that Justin's correct. For all we know this has been going on every single year. Alternatively  was simply lying. Or maybe Atlus simply missed it.
 * Margin of error? There's no indications that would tell us how long the last so while they could happen every hundred years, they might also last several decades.
 * If Vincent knew he'd be confronting in his dreams on the ninth night, why didn't he wear more clothes to bed?
 * He's trying to defeat him to win his lover back, not taking him out on a date. He's not self conscious enough to give a crap about how naked he may or may not be during his dreams.
 * But why does Vincent wear boxers to bed? Speaking of which, why do men wear just underwear to bed?
 * As a women who wears just underwear to bed, I just find it more comfortable.
 * More importantly, why can't he just dream himself a jetpack?
 * Speaking of boxers, if is anything to go by, you look like a sheep in boxers (with an afro) to all the other sheep in the dreams. So doesn't that mean a lot of the other sheep wore clothes to bed?
 * is the only one to remark on Vincent's underwear, and can probably see everyone in the nightmares as they really are. To the other sheep, Vincent is just "Sheep with Afro".
 * So since, did she take a level in badass?
 * Considering the angle it looks more like it was an accident and  clearly isn't at all happy with the outcome. Probably not an example of badassery.
 * If the whole point of these dreams is
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